So this team is officially better than England right?
Easily
no.
definitely
>>69013543
Probably not.
>>69013543
completely
Without a doubt
>>69013543
At least they play to the level that they are expected to whilst england always fail.
>>69013543
Absolutely.
Quite possibly
yep. USA USA USA USA
>>69013543
yep
>>69013543
Yep
>0 shots
no
At this point yeah
>>69013543
>USA USA USA USA
USA USA USA USA
>>69013543
Klinsmann for next England boss. Screencap this.
>>69013543
You can't even beat Jamaica never mind Iceland
>>69013543
You have half an Icelandic player so yes, absolutely.
US is 4th in the Americas, England is 16th in Europe.
Holyshit americans are delusional af. England were against Thor, US lost to chokers... CHOKERS!
No, the US are fucking dire. You fucking lost 3 matches in the Copa America. Only you, Bolivia, Haiti and Jamaica lost that many matches.
most teams are, it doesn't really mean anything anymore.
sure why not
Yes, at an international level.
>>69015996
7-0
>>69013933
>At least they play to the level that they are expected to whilst england always fail.
You mean that we consistently exceed it. Punching above our weight is basically our thing now.
>>69016343
kek
>>69015741
But this means England is better than USA?
>>69015996
>>69016343
owned.
>>69013543
>World Cup
One team makes it to the round of 16
One team finished bottom of their group
You tell me which team is better?
>>69016351
>lose 3 times at home
>"exceed"
>>69016343
mis lados familia
i don't think there is a team worse than england at football, so naturally USA's team is better
We are total fucking dreck, so probably yeah
yes
>>69013543
I'm afraid so
>>69016343
>2-0
>4-0
>1-0
What did they mean by this?
>>69013543
It has been for at least 10 years
>>69013543
We were officially better when we finished above them in 2010 and made it farther in 2014
>>69013543
All in favor of changing the language to American because English is a name for losers say "aye"
>>69013933
After a certain point after failure and failure and failure and more failure, that is what you should be expected to do. England is overrated
>>69013543
Unironically yes.
Klinsmann made you better, while England keeps getting worse and worse
>>69016850
aye
Costa Rica, USA, Mexico, even Panama are better than England
>>69015996
senpai you lost hard enough to account for more than three matches.
Your quarterfinal game was so shitty that I now support Trump just so we can build a wall to keep out your fucking terrible soccer players.
>>69016534
Before the Copa started, everyone was chatting shit and said that USA didnu have a chance of even going through their group of death. Not only did they win their group, they also made the semifinal. That tournament was a huge success no matter how you put it.
>>69017112
Our terrible players > Your best players
>>69017112
Nice meme idiot. You got whopped 4-0 and lost to fucking Mexico last year.
5-0
4-2
3-2
Get FUCKED faggot.
>>69017112
Wait for the inevitable "F" team response kek.
It has been like that for many years
So does this mean we're in support of Jurgen again? I can never keep track.
USA is unironically better than Englel and have been for several years. USA has muh heart which really makes up for technical deficiencies. You can tell every single murrican that puts on the shirt gives it their all
>>69015481
Jamaica is better than Iceland though.
>US takes over England as the super power
>Takes over England in Soccer
Hilarious
>>69017265
>7-0
>>69017226
>>69017265
Can we both agree our countries are both much better than England? At least we both get out of the group stages at the world cup
>>69017275
7 - 0 my obese lawn mower
>>69017226
Your group wasn't the group of death. There was no group of death in this tournament. Paraguay is Panama tier and Costa Rica hasn't beenplaying well since the WC.
>>69013543
Maybe
>>69017390
Brooks, Johnson and Pulisic are better than any Engladumb counterpart.
>>69017536
probably, compadre
>>69013543
which team isnt?
england isn't even a real country anymore, how could they have a real soccer team?
>>69017495
Hmm let's see here my fat about to be shot by a gay muslim friend.
Argentina 4-0 US
Guatemala 2-0 US
Mexico 3-2 US
Jamaica 2-1 US
All of this just from the past year HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>69017265
>>69017275
>>69017289
>implying the majority or our country cares about soccer
>implying you guys didnt get creamed at the only sport you care about
>>69013933
Fuck no
Has anyone actually seen the reasons most of us want Klinsmann out?
>>69013543
I'm honestly starting to think >we are. Player-for-player, we're nowhere near as good as them, but as a team the US might actually be better than England.
>>69015356
No trainer with a shred of self respect would dare to touch that third rate shit show you people call a national team.
>>69013543
This statement is true, well done murrrcans
>>69017275
still 7-0'd Jesus lol
>>69013543
Yes
>>69017741
>run out the gate playing murderball and literaly get murdered.
EHHH PU70
>>69017536
Paraguay was 2nd in WC qualifying coming in and was hyped coming into the Copa.
And Costa Rica is solid still. Harder draw than a Haiti or Jamaica for sure.
It was the hardest group bar none.
>>69017741
>this damage control
>lose 4-0 to a team with the best player in the world
>lose 2-1 to a team with a part time dentist
which is worse?
>>69017741
>7-0>4-0
>7-0>2-0
>7-0>3-2
>7-0>2-1
>>69017741
>Still didn't lose by 7 goals
Get back to work Paco
>>69017764
Yes, you're delusional. Klinsmann has done just fine with a team that has no real talent.
2013: Gold Cup champions
2014: Scraped through the "Group of Death", went out in the R16 after a close game vs Belgium
2015: 4th at the Gold Cup (disastrous tbf)
2016: 4th at the Copa America, better than Mexico/Costa Rica/Ecuador/Uruguay/Brazil, all teams that have more talent than us
>>69017759
Average attendance to MLS is only 6k less than Liga MX, and 8th in the world, you do care.
>>69017904
Conmebol WC qualifying means shit, Uruguay is first and they got blown out by our shit team with Osorio meme tactics.
>>69018104
Affording to going to a game seems more like of an economical problem. I see more liga mx jerseys than any other jerseys in Los Angeles.
>>69018104
Well yeah but people here go to MLS games just because they have disposable income and it sounds like a fun family activity.
Not like we have to spend a month selling Chiclets on the street to afford a ticket.
>>69017999
B team gold cup
Not impressive considering what actually happened
Should have gotten him fired
Didn't do anything that shouldn't be expected. We were at fucking home
>England
>last 16
>America
>didn't even qualify
Wew lad, much better
>>69017275
2-1, 5-1. The scores in the 2-legged playoff you played against NZ to QUALIFY for the WC thanks to "SAN ZUSI".
You're indebted to us forever, Pedro. There can be no greater shame than the US doing more for your national team than any Mexican player/coach in 2014.
>>69018104
>Average attendance to MLS is only 6k less than Liga MX, and 8th in the world, you do care.
You're ignoring the difference in population, though. The USA has more people than Mexico, Germany, the UK, and Argentina combined. Only a tiny percentage of Americans actually give a crap.
>>69018323
>Not like we have to spend a month selling Chiclets on the street to afford a ticket.
>>69018399
You were saying?
>>69018284
>I see more liga mx jerseys than any other jerseys in Los Angeles.
The ranking of soccer leagues in America is basically:
1. Liga MX
2. Premier League
3. La Liga (Barca/Real, really)
4. MLS
>>69018367
>Didn't do anything that shouldn't be expected. We were at fucking home
Wait, so you expected us to finish 4th at a tournament where were the 8th-best team (and even that's being generous)?
>>69017741
7-0
>>69017999
DAILY REMINDER THAT LANDY WOULDN'T HAVE MISSED
Better or not, I always love seeing USA play in the world cup. They play with so much heart
>>69018399
>England in charge of international borders
Wew lad.
>>69017741
AYYYYYYY PU70!
>>69018437
Don't start with your per capita shit. The fact of the matter is that a sizeable amount of your population cares or is starting to care. There are probably more people in the US that like 'soccer' than Chile, with a population of 20 million.
>>69018437
....And yet it's enough to qualify for the WC every time, and do better than England. Tip top kekkerino, if soccer was a main sport here we'd be a real force.
>>69018104
>>69018516
Look at what actually happened
Got dominanted by Colombia (expected)
Beat Costa Rica (should be expected)
Scraped by Paraguay & Ecuador (should happen at home)
Dominanted by Argentina (expected)
These are reasonable expectations
He hasn't done anything to make up for last year or the overall shitty af play
>>69018706
I think If the rest of the world cared about your sports they'd dominate.
>>69018794
And it is in your country but Chile fucked your shit up famalam.
7 Tacos Por Favor...
Con Chile.
>le klinsmann hate meme
r/mls pls go
>>69013543
for sure
>>69018878
Go learn some more English before posting again.
>>69018648
>The fact of the matter is that a sizeable amount of your population cares or is starting to care.
that's still disingenuous when it's not very high on our priority list of athletic development. the guys that end up going into soccer aren't our best athletes and don't get nearly the same amount of resources and high-level training. so it's still a shoddy system and the guys that come through it are national leftovers, it's just that we have so many people that we can afford to put together the better ones that we find.
so it's not because we care that much, but because our population gives us a handicap so that our lack of caring doesn't prevent us from fielding a team. it still only lets us get so far, though.
>>69018768
>Got dominanted by Colombia (expected)
Confirmed for not watching the game.
>Scraped by Paraguay
We only had 10 guys against Paraguay for half of the game. Would've been 2-0 or 3-0 if it wasn't for Yedlin chimping out.
>>69016850
aye
>>69019058
Confirmed for not understanding how this game works
The US couldn't create shit expect those two chances, which they were dangerous but nevertheless did not score from
And no
>>69019058
>Would've been 2-0 or 3-0 if it wasn't for Yedlin chimping out.
The game was much more interesting and favorable for us in the first half, the second half reeked of refball even after Yedlin. It's like someone in the CA organizers had a panic attack when they realized we might not go out in the group stage and phoned in to the ref at halftime.
>>69018367
What the fuck is he supposed to do without a midfield? The US team has never this many players in European leagues, and an American coach would never have had the balls to demote starters signing with the MLS in their prime like he did, which would have crippled them for the next decade. Now they have a top ten defense and are on track to have their best offense ever depending on how Pulisic and Wood develop. A few prospects in midfield and they could actually be competitive in 2022
>>69018990
Let me say it slower, since you seem to be acting extra autistic today
CHILE FUCKED YOUR SHIT UP. MEXICO PRIDES ITS NATIONAL TEAM AND WAS SHAT ON BY BASED SANCHEZ AND VARGAS.
7 Tacos por favor...
Extra Chile y Extra Sal.
>>69013543
Gonna be that guy and say that every US game is always a fun game, I hope you'll win more in the future, you make football fun
>>69019348
He should at least beat Jamaica, Panama, and Guatemala
>>69019395
That has nothing to do with what we were discussing.
>>69013543
Yes
>>69019348
>depending on how Pulisic and Wood develop
what about that Johannson guy? apparently he's good enough to play for Werder Bremen, he's just been hurt so he couldn't play this time. he's also Icelandic, which now seems like a plus.
I would guess that you'd put him in front of goal with wood as a playmaker behind him, and pulisic coming in from the wings?
>>69017741
Build tha7 wall mexic0
Has the US ever played non defensively against better teams? I always see them park the bus against teams that aren't CONCACAF cannon fodder. Their counter attacking is decent enough so I understand why they park it but it's very annoying watching them play.
>>69017741
>DOS A CERO
>>69019572
Jóhannsson is complete shit
He wasn't as good as Jozy was in the Netherlands
Think about that
>>69018404
It was 5-1 and 4-2 but ok
>>69013543
yes
even brazil is better
>>69019473
If you want a team that can actually win tournaments, the players need to be developed together and that means early on they're going to make mistakes and get upset. If England or Argentina's all star team can't win, how do you think an MLS all star is going to do anything?
>>69019592
countering is just a more efficient an exciting game, it has less to do with necessity (although that still matters) and more to do with playing to our strengths. we don't have the skill and discipline to play a constant high-possession low-pace short passing game like some countries, but we got some big, well-conditioned guys on defense who are willing to hustle and our keepers are always relatively solid.
we don't have the talent to systematically break down a defense either, but we have some fast guys who end up working together a lot because it's easier to pile up a lot of NT caps here than most countries. so we just put some speedy creative guys up front and have them counter fast when our defense gets the ball, and see if we can make it work.
that kind of play is actually far more exciting to watch than your standard possession type team. you get hard tackles and breakaway runs, plus we try to make the most of set pieces to supplement our typical lack of chances. this means our strategy is pretty simple and straightforward, and therefore more consistent and easier to modify, train with, or pinpoint weaknesses. so although we're not world-beaters, it's both doable and entertaining.
>>69019572
Jordan Morris was their 2nd best prospect on offense, but he turned down a contract from Werder Bremen to play in Seattle, so I'm not too optimistic about him
>>69019348
Yes and how much development time has Jurgen given those young players?
Instead he chooses to start fucking Wondo.
We've been on a steady decline since Donovan quit and if we do get better it will be many years after Klansman leaves. The only good thing he's done is poach some Germans for our team. Our results under him have not been much better than under Bradley
>>69020261
well shit then, I figured there was a reason I hadn't heard much about him lately. thought it was just the injury.
>>69020036
Those weren't mistakes
If you watched, you saw the US getting their asses handed to them
>>69019592
They can't keep possession with their midfield, so it's all they can do really. Either way, I think they're surprisingly creative in their opponent's box.
>>69020044
You forgot to add that USA also has to play around Michael Bradley who constantly passes the ball to the opponent when any semblance of pressure is put on him.
>>69020416
If you want him to develop actual talent then they need to give him the money to set up proper youth development like he made every team in Germany do
>>69020447
Because Klinnsman is constantly dicking with the lineup and playing guys out of position.
>>69017741
SIETE A CERO
>>69020261
> what a fucking idiot.
I-Ima gonna staying home with my fight and win buddy's and literally fuck up any soccer potential I have.
>>69016431
Nope because Chile destroyed England before.
>>69020512
bradley is a double-edged sword, he's great at being wherever someone is needed to put pressure on them and maybe win the ball, but when he's not making a play on the ball or when he actually has it, you kinda wish he was someone else. he's basically a disruption for both teams, which can sometimes play into our hands.
>>69020044
Counter attacking football is exiting but the US can't be really called a counter attacking team like the Netherlands, Real Madrid or Arsenal. True bus parkers are Greece, Chelsea or Italy, I'd say the US is somewhere in between.
>>69020416
In case you didn't notice, Pulisic is a scrawny 17 year old and he was completely useless because Argentina just pushed him off the ball every time. So strategically it didn't make sense, and it could have resulted in injury at worst and an shaken confidence at best
>>69020261
Morris was never rated by anyone and he's still shit. Poor diabetic college man should have stayed in Stanford. At 22 it's too late for him.
>>69020518
No I want him to develop our promising young players by giving them actual playing time at the highest level. Are we going to be trotting out Dempsey, Jones, Bradley, and Guzan at Russia?
>>69017741
Shut up son.
>>69020422
I know I thought the same thing. I'm pretty fucking pissed about it tbdesu
>>69020660
Klinnsman needs to give based Geoff Cameron the captaincy so he can bench Bradley
>Klinsmann said the goal is to reach the semi's.
>We reach the semi's
>This is bad
???
>>69020716
Anyone with that kind of speed has breakout potential, but yeah it's pretty much over he'd rather be a superstar in MLS than a forgettable journeyman in Bundesliga
>>69020261
What's with retarded americuck players choosing MLeLs over Europe? USA was so much better when they actually had playmakers and strikers overseas back in the 00s. As far as I know all you have in Europe are defensive players nowadays.
>>69020851
It took a bit of luck tho. If it all fell right, USA would've had Brazil in the qtrs and got btfo
>>69020673
Pusilic seems to do OK in the Bundesliga for being a 'scrawny kid'. I thought he was one of the few US players who actually played with intensity and energy, which we were sorely lacking vs Argentina. If his coach thought like you do he'd be another never-been benchwarmer.
The only thing that's going to make our players better is to keep playing at high levels. When a team is facing as desperate a future as the USMNT you need to get your young players more time, even if it 'shakes their confidence'
>>69020851
I guess it's the manner we lost to Argentina that caused uproar.
>>69020827
isn't he the one that started against colombia with brooks hurt? he was very unimpressive there, is that because he should be in midfield instead?
>>69020981
We would've beaten that Brazil team.
>>69020953
MLS finally overpays its best players and underpays everyone else, so they undermine the national team by offering better contracts than Bundesliga
>>69020952
I disagree. Zardlels is fast and he's generally awful. Morris only has speed and physicality and absolutely no left foot or anything else. He shouldnt have gone to the national team before performing in mlels like Zardes
>>69021034
He started in all the games
>>69020952
It would still improve his ability and improve our NT. Then he would have come back to Mls and improve the level. Not like he was gonna play in a first division anyways,but a second division in euro is still better then our first division league.
>>69021070
And guaranteed playing time for a USMNT player in MLS
>>69020983
Yeah, and he doesn't start because he's 17, which means he's small and injury prone. That doesn't mean he isn't being groomed to be a starting forward on Dortmund and lead the USMNT's offense. Starting underdeveloped prospects is bad coaching, and Klinsmann's greatest successes have been in the area developing prospects
>>69020953
american soccer culture has a bit of a dilemma right now.
in american football, basketball, baseball, and ice hockey, the best league in the world is also the league that plays in america. that's how it's always been for us so we just linked the two concepts together. now that our soccer national team has been getting steadily more successful since the early 90s and the MLS was formed, people are slowly becoming more interested. however, the best league and the american league are not the same.
so this puts us in a confusing spot because it's never been like this before. so fans who want to follow the sport have to pick either following one or the other more at a club level, but either way it's different than typically following american sports. that's why MLS feels like a half-assed blend between american and european sports cultures, because we're trying to cater to both crowds who are each missing some of the usual pieces.
this all means MLS' solution is to try to consolidate the culture by bringing in nationally-recognized talent to the american league, but this comes at a cost of those players' development. so you can either grow the MLS' domestic influence at the price of our national team's development, or vice versa. this is something other countries have already figured out because it's always been that way, but for us it's a very weird spot to be in.
>>69013543
Hardly an achievement, almost everyone is better than England
>>69021108
Zardes could be amazing if he didn't compulsively dribble himself into a corner. But he's a perfect example because he'll just dribble right through talented defenses. Passing is one of the few skills you can significantly improve later in your career, and if he did he would be an excellent player. But he plays in MLS, so he'll never get the coaching or experience he needs to improve like that.
>>69018538
DELETE
>>69021363
What prospects has Klinsmann developed? I don't count taking germany's rejects as 'development' because they developed overseas.
Even if you don't agree with starting Pusilic, how do you sub in fucking Wondo before him? Klinsman didn't give Pusilic or Nagbe meaningful minutes and if his buddy Altidore would have been healthy then you know we wouldn't event have seen mch of Wood.
Klinsman is all talk of development but then he keeps trotting out the same old players for the same old results. Once those players are done we're fucked.
>>69016850
Aye!
When was the last time England made it to a semifinals of a major tournament?
>>69022047
Italy 1990
>>69021853
Of course I'm talking about Germany, that's why the US hired him. Even though that was my whole point, Brooks, Wood, and Johnson all currently play in Germany, and Yedlin is in EPL. That's not even taking into account Jones who played most of his career in Germany and Pulisic who is being developed there now
>>69022185
OK, so his main success at coach has been discovering 'new' talent, although as you said they are being developed in Germany.
Great, make him head scout but the man can't coach for shit.
>>69022047
'90 WC and Euro '96. Both times Germany knocked them out and went on to win.
>>69021363
>Klinsmann's greatest successes have been in the area developing prospects
why don't we just put him in a relevant position there then, like scouting or youth development instead of being our head coach?
https://discordapp.com/channels/197121134880096256
england exit laugh discord
You can officially suck my dick you fat cock-mongrel amerifat monkey
>>69022337
not working for me
>>69022302
He won't take that job
>>69021380
It's inevitable really, but being franchise based and its rapid expansion has really hurt the level of competition. I'm just hoping that they'll start to generate enough money to absorb the best teams/players from Liga MX and work out a deal with UEFA where winners can get a shot at competing in Champion's League.
>>69013543
Have been for like four years.
>>69022263
That's the most important part of his job, and also why Germany's been so successful as a tournament team since the 80's. This isn't Spain where they can get Barcelona's coach to march his players out after they change jerseys.
>>69022425
>in the Champion's League
when was the last time we even did well in the fucking CCL? at least shoot for Copa Lib first, but even that is decades away for us.
but really, we can only properly grow one at a time right now: the MLS, or the Ninja Turtles. looks like we're picking the wrong one.
at this point?
Definitely
>>69022682
The CCL is rigged against MLS with that quarterfinal before the season even starts
>>69022302
That's how the German system works. They find players and when they're young as possible develop them together, but the coaching is more hands off because players aren't expected to make mistakes.
Is it the best style for the US? I can't say, but this is definitely the highest concentration of talent they've ever had, and except for Jones, their best players are all under 25.
Ja
>>69021363
>Klinsmann's greatest successes have been in the area developing prospects
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
>>69017741
seven - oh my god that mexican still has a head attached
>>69022600
>That's the most important part of his job
Scouting? Then make him head scout or head German pirate
>why Germany's been so successful as a tournament team since the 80's
They didn't get there by poaching players from other teams. I keep hearing that Kinnsman will be great for our national team's development but I have yet to see it. If he is doing something great, then OK keep him as technical director, not coach.
>>69022746
still, it's too early to even consider being in the QUALIFYING ROUNDS of the UCL if we can't breeze our way through the CCL, rigged or not. we're just that much farther away. the USMNT can hold its own in international play, but the MLS is not even close yet.
>>69022682
The can't compete with top Liga MX teams, especially in terms of depth, because the best ones simply pay better. If minimum salary in MLS was a quarter of what it is in baseball, it would supplant the Mexican and South American leagues
>>69022956
>the MLS
Opinion discarded
>>69023035
did you not read the reply chain? the original guy was saying that the MLS should poach everything good from LIGA MX and that would make us good enough for UEFA to consider letting us play in the Champions League.
>>69023027
maybe the Mexican one but that'd still be a pipe dream due to national interest and pride there. the same goes for major south american leagues, but they're also farther away. the best we could hope for there is to attract enough of their top 5% that we could improve the MLS' domestic interest and growth, but the MLS getting better won't mean that those other leagues will collapse for it.
>>69023146
>the MLS
>definite article
>>69023200
oh you were just being pedantic, whatever. I call it "the MLB" too when referring to it as a collective or an organization, it really doesn't matter.
idk OP, but at least we can all agree that USA and ENGLAND are much better than SHITXICO
>>69023146
>maybe the Mexican one but that'd still be a pipe dream due to national interest and pride there. the same goes for major south american leagues, but they're also farther away. the best we could hope for there is to attract enough of their top 5% that we could improve the MLS' domestic interest and growth, but the MLS getting better won't mean that those other leagues will collapse for it.
I don't think they'll collapse either, the leagues have too much national interest. But more money means more players trying to establish themselves for a career in Europe may choose MLS over Liga MX or Boca Juniors, and enough money means turn it would turn into the preeminent league of the Americas.
Really though, the only thing that needs to change is its status as a retirement league into a developmental one.
>>69022800
Yeah because the German National Team sucked when he was their coach
>>69023280
No
People who call it "the MLS" have no knowledge of the league
>>69013543
>the guy who destroyes the US quit his national team cause he cant win shit
Yeah, US is amazing.
>>69023475
The guy behind that success is still there
You should read the stories of his reign and see what an imbecile he is
>>69017112
>>69023585
Didn't Maradona quit after getting BTFO in the US too?
>>69017741
MEX7C0 jajajajajajajajajjaaja
>>69017393
They're literally not by any measure
>>69023690
I really dont know m8, probably, since you're suggesting it. Not really relevant for current day football though.
>>69023585
Better than England and amazing are two very different things
>>69015481
At least we had reasonable chances against Jamaica. You straight up got an icicle up the arse.
Thats probably right , USMN is actually better and better , not good enough yet but at this rate it will pass the English team rapidly.
>>69017741
Este control de daño
>>69017226
Most of that came from the shitty way they were playing the year before
>England
Good on paper (usually, not even that applies this year), always underachieving to a point where they are merely a meme team.
>U, S and A
Bad on paper (getting better tho) and always overachieving to a point where they can mess with the big ones on a regular basis.
USA > the city of Englel
>>69013543
yes
>>69024465
This would seem to suggest that the problem with England is the manager and the good thing about the US is the manager. Hmmm.
>Zero shots
>Zero world cups
>Zero lions on the shirt
>>69013543
yes, but if we do better than them at the next world cup that will be three in a row, which will make it pretty much official.
No, but we have excuses and don't spend billions of dollars on our team.
>>69024581
>Zero world cups
Excuse me englet, we're one of the few ELITE countries with 3+ world cup wins, all of which have happened in our lifetime. You've barely even got one. You have no place to talk to your clear superiors like that.
>>69024581
>last and only wc was before Toronto last Stanley and under questionable circumstances
>won 6 knockout games since then
>failed to advance past group the past 2 wc
>>69024581
Ugh I don't know if you knew, but we are the reigning 2016 world cup champs bud
>>69024849
This, See pic related
>>69013933
England did exactly as We thought they did this tourney.
They did exactly as we thought they were capable in Brazil 2014.
England is not good and not expected to be good, get over it.
>>69018538
I will never forget this
>>69025235
if ronaldo wasn't whiffing clear chances against us multiple times, we wouldn't even have gotten past the group stage desu
>>69025235
*forgive
we've been better since the group stage of WC2010
this isn't news
England wouldn't even have gotten out of our group in Copa America and we progressed to the semis
When will England vote to leave FIFA and EUFA
>they join OFC
>>69016351
Clueless youngfag detected. The USMNT has fallen off from the time between the 2002 WC and 2009 confederations cup. Those teams under Bradley with prime Howard, Dempsey and Donovan, Gooch and Bocanegra in the back and Altidore and pre-car wreck Charlie Davies were some of the best US sides.
The side that meme magicked Spain in the Mega Bowl was probably the best US side ever, player for player.
Pulisic gives us a lot of hope, but the US are not exceeding expectations right now. We're playing where we're at probably. Good showing in the Copa, but this team has been a disaster at times and we should manage a ranking higher than in the 30s. Lots of bad, stupid losses.
>>69025764
yeah but that was a sort of golden in age or luck to have some good players all at the same time
it did not really reflect soccer in America as no one really gave a shit
now we are slowly progressing and growing as a soccer nation on all fronts
>>69025853
I would say 2008/2009 is when young people started to give a shit. No one over 40 gives a shit about soccer in the US. That will change. I will definitely see the day when soccer overtakes hockey in popularity. People may say it's crazy but it may even overtake football in a couple generations. It is clearly becoming popular with young people (not just as a meme kiddy sport) and there is a serious issue with parents and safety when it comes to football. Kids are being yanked from Pop Warner because of concussion scares.
Not saying it's likely but it is certainly possible.
>>69017741
>makes fun of americans for getting shot
>lives in a land controlled by drug cartels
this is what happens when your public education system is even worse than ours
>>69024849
>>69024894
>women matter
>>69015481
We beat Iceland though.
Hypothetical USMNT 2022 Roster (2022 Age/Current Club)
GK
>Ethan Horvath (27/Molde)
>Zack Steffen (27/SC Freiburg)
>Cody Cropper (29/MK Dons)
DF
>DeAndre Yedlin (28/Tottenham)
>John Brooks (29/Hertha Berlin)
>Matt Miazga (26/Chelsea)
>Ventura Alvarado (29/Club America)
>Kellyn Acosta (26/FC Dallas)
>Desevio Payne (26/Gronigen)
>Cameron Carter-Vickers (24/Tottenham)
>Juan Pablo Ocegueda (28/Tigres)
MF
>Michael Bradley (34/Toronto)
>Gedion Zelalem (25/Arsenal)
>Christian Pulisic (23/Borussia Dortmund)
>Paul Arriola (27/Tijuana)
>Emerson Hyndman (27/Bournemouth)
>Caleb Stanko (28/SC Freiburg)
>Marc Pelosi (28/SJ Earthquakes)
FW
>Julian Green (27/Bayern Munich)
>Bobby Wood (29/Hamburg)
>Jerome Kiesewetter (29/Fortuna Dusseldorf)
>Gyasi Zardes (30/LA Galaxy)
>Rubio Rubin (26/Utrecht)
I personally think that team will be top 10 in the world. Opinions?
>>69029554
>US
>top 10
We're not even top 100
>>69029583
We're in the low 30s you Ameriself-esteem
>>69029583
>FIFA Ranking: 31
>ELO: 22
uwotm8?
>>69029554
wheres clit dumpster?
>>69017265
Nigga please.
>>69029656
Retirement home
>>69029554
forgetting the goats Haji Wright & Bradford Jamieson IV
>>69029763
look at all those fans.
>>69029775
why should they watch a meaningless youth cup match
>>69029763
>Haji "I played with Steve Nash in an NASL B-Team" Wright
>Gyasi Zardes IV
Both shit desu.
Also
>Schalke
>>69029787
keep sleeping on schalke
>>69024465
No on the USA one
>>69024654
>wimmenz soccer
>>69015285
>0 potatoes
>>69017951
this
>>69016343
Kek
>>69024581
>unironically getting meme'd on by a dude named Ragnar
>>69029554
Pulisic and Zelalem living up to expectations alone would make them a top 10 team. Green panning out would be a nice bonus, but I doubt it'll happen.
Hyndman/Pulisic/Zelalem would be the best midfield they've ever had by far and it's always been their main weak point in putting together a complete team.
>>69026600
You only die if you fuck with cartels, in america you can go to school get shot
go to marathon get legs blown off
be gay get shot
go to college get shot
go to work get a plane flown in to your building
>>69029954
Zelalem is already a failure m8
>>69023585
Did you even qualify for the euro cup?
>>69030044
Zelalem still has another chance I think, Green's pretty much done at Buyern though
>>69030044
>a 19 year old is a failure
>>69029811
ell-maow
>>69013543
How long until England exits the world cup and makes their own tournament where they can have their "sovereignty"?
>>69029554
>no Andrew Carleton
shit list desu
>>69030462
The British cup is coming they'll probably remove Wales so they can actually win it though
>>69030462
They already think the FA Cup is the most important trophy in the world.
