Where is he in your Top 10 after what was arguably the greatest finals performance ever?
#2 behind Jordan
11th behind steph curry
>>68711933
This is mine but LeBron can get to top 3 if he wins another
Honestly I think he is #2 all time
1. Jordan
2. LeBron
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Shaq
6. Bird
7. Hakeem
8. Duncan
9. Chamberlain
10. Kobe
>>68712028
Top 3 easily. Maybe #2.
>>68712028
1. lelbron
2. Kareem
3. MJ
4. Wilt
5. Kobe
No
Jordan
Russell
Wilt
Magic
Bird
Shaq
Hakeem
Kobe
Duncan
Horry
10
>>68712028
>confirmed top 5
>>68712228
>Horry
>trying this fucking hard
1. MJ
2. LeGod
3. Kareem
4. Bird
5. Magic
6. Wilt
7. Shaw
8. Hakeem
9. Bill Ruselel
10. either Kobr or Timmy
>>68712228
This
>A fucking leaf
>>68712301
7 rings
1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. LeBron
4. Magic
Magic is the only other one you can even consider putting in front of him
It is indisputable that he is top 3 all time now and he's definitely in the GOAT running, it's just too difficult to compare eras to say for sure.
>>68712367
Bird > Magic
Only player in NBA history to lead all players in all 5 stat categories for the entire series
pretty much says it all
Ginobili has more championships. Why is NeGron considered better?
Idk shit about basketball.
Just outside the top 5 in the past decade.
Mj
Scotty
Lebron
>>68712359
>no all star appearances
>no all-nba teams
>no college accolades
>7,700 career points
If good means lucky then sure
>>68712385
i think if lebron was around in the 90s he would still be considered a great, but maybe not of the GOATS
I agree he flops way too much but thats a response to how the game is played now. he definitely has the size to play physically like they did back then, he is built like a TE
>>68712483
Because LeBron just fucking carried that team to a win. He led in all stats. Ginobili isn't going to do that for you. Tim Duncan is the star on that team.
top 5 no debating
top 5 top 5 top 5 top 5 top 5
>>68712028
he's at number 2
there is literally no one other than MJ who has a better skillset / performance record than legod
Jordan
Wilt
Lebron
Kareem
Magic
Kobe
Bird
Shaq
Russell
Hakeem
>>68712674
It's Kawhi now, but yeah duncan in the past
>>68712740
Magic, Bird, Isaiah Thomas, Tim Duncan
>>68712791
A fucking leaf. Wilt is a meme
lemme be honest. top 5
mj, kobe, magic, shaq, then i gotta say lebron.
he gets 2 more, i'll give him 3 and i can argue 2. mj still a lil bit away
No. 2 all time
>>68712839
Are you retarded?
You could have said that Wilt was in an era where basketball wasn't as dynamic and thus was easier for him, but to say Wilt's a meme is plain retardation.
>>68712706
damn, legod going for his 4th ring now
>>68712674
I see. What about my fresh "NeGron" meme? Has he ever been called that here?
>>68712852
chuckbe is not top 5
>>68712969
Yes, I'm saying wilt played in a meme era
>>68712028
>93 finals
Not even close.
Jordan fucking averaged 40 ppg 8rebs and 9 assists. Still a great finals showing for Lebron. Also a horriable one again for Steph.
#2
If he wins another one, you'll have to start comparing him to Jordan
Jordans bulls still made it to conference finals without him, as did Scottie pippen
Lebrons cavs were the worst team in the NBA without him, and he took them to 3 finals
>>68713074
No. He usually was called LeBrick, LeBeta, LeTrash,LeChoke etc.
LeBron is the 2nd greatest GOAT of all time behind Jordan and if you don't agree you know literally nothing about basketball or get all your information from your grandpa.
>>68712674
Aight. NeGron (actually NeGrón) kinda means "big nigga" in Spanish. >>68713251
>>68713153
Wilt revolutionized basketball and took it out of the meme era.
This guy created the era of basketball where size, power and technique mattered the most.
>>68712028
15th
>>68713172
How many would be have to win to surpass MJ is the real question. What would he realistically need to do? Is it even possible?
>>68713172
Lebron is unquestionably #2 and anyone who thinks otherwise is absolutely fedora
But Lebron needs to win more rings than Jordan or at least tie Jordan in rings + win more finals mvps than him
Jordan edges Lebron on clutchness and fearlessness until then
>>68712852
>kobr
Seriously?
Can you imagine if lebron had kobe's teammates.
1. Jordan
2. Lebron
3. Magic
4. Bird
5. Russel
6. Kareem
7. Hakeem
8. Duncan
9. Wilt
10. Robertson
>>68712827
lmao
'no'
>>68713394
>greatest GOAT of all time
>greatest Greatest Of All Time of all time
>>68712540
You can't quantify clutch. Robert Horry belongs nowhere near these GOAT lists, but he's a historic player nonetheless.
>>68713499
I don't like Kobe but he deserves respect for winning those last two rings, his team wasn't that great.
>>68713172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM_eCnTNt1Q
Illegal Defense making it basically 1v1 all the time is how Jordan and many others excelled.
Lebron during Jordans era would of SHIT on any 1v1 match up with no shadowing EASY.
#1, not even close.
>>68713600
Welcome to 4chan faggot
Kareem
Lebron
Bird
Russell
MJ
Magic
Wilt
Hakeem
Robertson
Stockton
Hard to truly rank them since influence is so important as well. Maravich was great.
1. Jordan
2. Russell
3. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Bird
6. LeLbron
>>68712228
this
>>68713499
kobr's last ring was tougher than any team lebron has beaten.
>lebron better than kobe
>>68713884
He is though. Overall a better player, more talented. Kobr had some lucky chucks sometimes, if he didn't have those he wouldn't even be in the conversation.
>>68712028
Based NeGron
>>68712028
Jordan
Kareem
Magic
LeBron
Bird
Hakeem
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq
Wilt
Confirmed second all time now or sure. First probably within reach I think by his retirement it will be a tough debate.
>>68713884
>2 Finals MVPs
>3 times carried
FMVP is the only award that matters for GOAT rankings. Regular season MVP is shit as Curry just showed us and if you win a ring without being the best player then who fucking cares.
>>68713884
Its hard to compare because LeBron has played in a weak conference his entire career. Put prime Kobr in the East, prevent the Celtics big 3, and they would trade finals appearances for years.
>>68713884
Kobe is only 7-9 quality.
He was a big scorer but was literally poison and couldn't win without Shaq.
2 more rings and final mvps and he surpasses MJ
>>68712028
1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. LeBron
4. Magic
5. Shaq
6. Bird
7. Hakeem
8. Duncan
9. Kobe
10. Chamberlain
>>68712028
GOAT
>>68714126
i feel like lebron and magic are on the same tier
>>68714126
>3. Lebron
>9. Kobe
>chamberlain in the top 10
ishiggydiggy
why do people penalize lebron's finals failures but not wilt's?
Tied with Jordan for GOAT
>>68714115
and lebitch cant win without ray allen and kyrie irving saving his bitchass so your comment is moot
>>68714115
>couldn't without Shaq
>>68713483
It'll be hard to convince people because Jordan was a perfect 6-0 in the Finals. Honestly this Finals comeback alone puts him on the same league as Jordan imo.
>>68714197
Most true basketball fans don't even consider pre-80's basketball worthwhile in discussion. Similar to pre-superbowl NFL.
>>68713870
Lebron just beat a team that had 73 wins.
>>68714115
>couldn't win without Shaq.
>2010 Kobr and co beat the toughest defense in nearly a decade in game 7 of the finals
>>68713684
I love how infrequently that is brought up when people try to compare players from eras. I think everyone would be happier if we agreed to not compare players that didn't play during the same period, or at least during a period that had fundamental differences
>>68714184
They kinda are. I still put LeGod a bit above him tho.
>>68713483
he's gotta get 6 rings. winning a title in fucking Cleveland will be the tiebreaker
>>68714303
2008-2010 had pretty brutal defense. They could shutdown the Wars, especially the way Curry played the entire series. I know it's easy to see the 73 wins and automatically think they were an amazing team, but the Wars look like it throughout the playoffs.
![tim-duncan-laughing[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0l5UVPv.jpg "tim-duncan-laughing[1].jpg")
>there are people in this thread who don't have Duncan in their top ten
>there are people who put KOBR above Duncan all time
>>68714115
lol kill yourself lebron dickrider
Why do people keep unironically putting Magic ahead of Lebron? Guy was literally a worse version of Lebron.
I mean, I get Jordan, and maybe even Russel.
But shit, no one else has an argument. No one.
>>68714220
lol you're a god damn fucking retard if you don't think LeBron carried this team
>>68714220
>An individual can't win without teammates in a 5 on 5 game
Who woulda thought?
>>68714433
Kobe vs Duncan is a retarded argument. Besides, head to head Kobe's teams owned Duncan's.
>>68714126
>lebron better than magic and bird
>>68714465
That's a spectacular argument that really proved my perspective wrong.
>>68714433
>le carried by his team for the last 6 years of his career man
>>68712028
Top 5 most definitely
#2
>>68713499
>that fucking meme
He had better teammates than Kobe and chocked twice.
>>68712028
1. Jordan
2. Chamberlain
3. Abdul Jabbar
4. Bryant
5. Johnson
6. James
7. Olajuwon
8. O'Neal
9. Russell
10. Robertson
>>68714306
>6-24 from the field, chucks his team out of the game before Ron artest of all people saves his ass.
>>68714514
take lebrons dick out of your mouth boi
>>68714588
Clearly you don't watch the Spurs. You're kidding yourself if you don't think Duncan was still the best player on his team as most recent as 2013. Yo could even argue 2014.
>>68714640
The pre Miami teammates were straight ass
>>68714672
>literally leads all players in every category in the finals
>people still pretend he was carried
>>68712540
SEVEN
RINGS
>>68712228
Fucking bostonfag
>>68712028
1. Jordan
2. Russell
3. James
4. Kareem
5. Shaq
6. Bird
7. Duncan
8. Kobe
9. Wilt
10. Magic
>>68714721
>>68714672
And what about the block? And what about leading all 5 main stats? Quit being a hater dumbfuck. It stopped being cool to hate Lebron ages ago.
>>68714664
doesn't change the fact that kobe got it done without shaq twice, the second time being against a team harder than any team shaq beat.
>>68714514
Lebron can never win with certain people. Basically the Skip Bayless crowd.
>>68713660
That's not what the question was. Horry shouldn't be anywhere on that list.
>>68714734
>bostonfag
>magic over bird
You don't know how this stuff works
>>68714775
i will never stop hating lefraud, kill yourself you underaged shitter, jordan magic, bird and kobe are still better
>>68714833
Take LeBron off the cavs and they get swept. Go suck on some more dicks gayboy.
Actually, they don't even get close to the finals without lebron.
>>68714833
He's kind of right about the Jordan shit. Even /sp/ is prisoner of the moment. LeBron isn't close to Jordan, but it certainly helps his rep. Moved him into top 4 easily.
>>68714664
He was great in the other games though. Similar to Lebron in this series, but obviously in Lebron's favor as Lebron had a better series.
>>68714926
They don't make the playoffs in the pathetic Leastern conference without LeBron
>>68714897
Nah. i'm a Laker fan, but LeBron has surpassed Kobe and Bird easily.
>>68714897
1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. LeBron
4. Kobe
5. Duncan
6. Magic
7. Shaq
8. Pettit
9. Karl Malone
10. Wilt
>>68714897
> Kobe
> Better
Lebron is like 18-6 against Kobe, and has 3 finals MVPS to Kobes 2, 4 MVPS to Kobe's 1.
Kys. This isn't a joke.
>>68714981
>Nah. i'm a Laker fan
no you're not
and if you are, kill yourself
>>68714784
>Kobe got it done,
you mean his team got it done right? just like Shaq got it done for him.
>>68714981
I'll give you Kobe, but no way has he surpassed Bird. Was it not for the greatest PG of all time, he'd have won 6 or 7 chips. Bird is also a marksman of a shooter, great defender, and had an unmatched killer instinct.
1. Jordan
2. Magic
3. Bird
4. LeBron
>>68714729
people like you actually exist.
>>68715049
>no bird
kys
>>68715051
>kobefagging is still a thing post-2012
>>68715051
>3-4 is better
>better cuz he left teams to win championships
ok retard
>>68715087
>needing teammates to win a championship
>>68712028
Top 1
>>68715076
Believe it or not, some of us don't have kobr's nuts in our mouth.
Lebron is better than Kobr. Get over it. Lakers still have Kareem and arguably Magic. Lakers still have more rings than the cavs. It isn't a big deal.
>>68712028
Best finals performance in nba history.
>>68712115
>bird is better than lebron, kobe, and wilt
>>68715195
It's a real shame LeBron choked in 2009. He robbed us of a classic Finals series.
>Jordan meme
Let's make an objective top 10 here, memes aside.
1. Bill Russel
2. Wilt Chamberlin
3. Tim Duncan
4. Shaq
5. LeBron
6. Jordan
7. Magic
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Kobe
10. Jerry West
>>68714981
Kobe is overrated.
I'd say LBJ is better than Bird and Magic
Bird=Magic IMO
>>68715195
>Lebron is better than Kobr
no he isn't you retard kobe is still better than lebron right now you fucking underaged shitter
>>68715196
Nah. I think Shaq and Jordan had one finals performance better. Leading in all categories is impressive, but its restricted to the series and the players in that series.
>>68715279
>Tim Duncan > Shaq
LeBron
Jordan
Magic
Kareem
Hakeem
West
Shaq
Duncan
Kobe
Bird
Honor able mention Maravich cause my favorite player
>>68715231
>Kobe
Yes
>Wilt
Yes
Lmao are you kidding me?
>>68715305
Kobr a better 1v1 player than LeBron will ever be because he could actually shoot. In terms of making his team better and actually building around him, LeBron is superior.
You fucking faggot 06 wade is still the best.
>>68715305
LOL
>>68715231
>he fell for the wilt meme
>>68715313
he did that against one of the most dominate teams and beating a 3-1 series.
>>68715305
You're the underaged shitter. Sorry, but Lakers are bigger than any player. Get over it.
>>68715279
2/10.
>>68715317
I'd take both of them over Kareem
>>68715365
No he isn't. Kobe could shoot but LeBron would score every possession. He's fucking 6 8 280 with a 40 inch vertical
>>68713398
I like the effort and welcome anyone to hate on lebron.
That said im glad bronn bitchslapped the memeiors
>>68715398
>most dominant
Yeah, in the regular season. Even if they had won this game 7, they would have 8 fucking losses in the playoffs. Dominant my ass. I don't know if you know this, but championship teams often coast in the regular season because the playoffs matter.
Fucking 2001 lakers had the 3rd toughest road in playoff history and they went 15-1 in the playoffs. That is domination. No one considers the 2000 lakers better than 2001 lakers despite the better regular season record.
>>68715566
>championship teams often coast in the regular season because the playoffs matter.
then why do people complain about resting players now?
>>68713483
He needs to get at least 5, say he makes another three finals and wins 2 to be 5-5 all time then you really have to have a serious conversation between him and Jordan. 6-0 is tough to beat but 10 total finals would be insanely impressive as a career accomplishment.
>>68713484
I think you can legitimately make an argument for Russell over LeBron or maybe even Jordan. His total ring count speaks for itself and is something i don't see any player ever surpassing.
>>68713511
>robertson
fuck off with this meme
Jordan never did shit until he had two fucking hall of famers on his team. at least Lebron could bring a team past the first round with a shit team around him.
>>68713684
this
if lebron played in jordans era he would have styled all over the league
that's not a picture of the refs OP
olajuwon
jordan
lebron
stockton
kareem
bird
magic
duncan
kobe
kg
>>68715708
Also to add to this you can't discount Kareem either. The top three is Jordan, Kareem and Russell, then you have Magic, Bird, LeBron, Shaq and Duncan clustered after them in the second tier followed by Kobe, Hakeem, Wilt etc in tier three.
>>68712827
isaiah thomas just said lebron is the best player of all time
>>68712028
I'm pretty sure he averaged 30ppg this series, it was insane. Definitely top 5.
should I buy a lebron jersey now?
Jordan
Lebron (will be #1 soon)
--POWER GAP--
Bird
Wilt
Kareem
Shaw
Hakeem
Magic
Duncan
Kobe
>>68712228
You are the worst kind of person
>>68715414
and Kobr wouldn't score? Kobe was schooling LeBron in the post in March. Kobe's footwork, shot, and post-game is superior to LeBron's. Even his athletic ability in his prime is up there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS1pj0IZyKE
>>68716420
Hello moafriendo, I'm glad we agree in 2 different areas
>>68714197
Who said they don't? Wilt is the most underrated player of all time. The fact that Bill Russell is considered better by most people shows that people don't understand team > one player.
>>68716508
>kobefags. >2016. U wot m8
>>68715273
>doubtful
the lakers would have won in 5 that cavs team was total garbage besides lebron
Anyone that has him outside the top 5 does not objectively watch him play basketball enough. He's projecting to be right next to Jordan-I think 1 more title and you could make the case he was good enough to win 6 rings but his support casts let him down at least twice.
>>68712028
8 or 9
>>68712028
how's it feel knowing the Lakers will never be relevant again.
>>68712028
how you can not have him as #1. were lucky as fuck we get to witness this man
>>68716355
minus bird most rational post in this thread
>post iverson era nba
>relevant
>>68712028
I think if he played in jordans era he would be better cause of his freakish combination of size strength and speed not seen during that time
>>68719334
>freakish combination of size strength and speed
>muh athleticism
This is the only reason people rate LeBron James, isn't it.
he's definitely in my top 20 now
>>68719116
because i saw jordan in person, child.
>>68719116
teenage recency bias get FUCKED
imo he just proved he CAN be jordan.
but jordan did it over and over again. maybe this gives him that next level edge so he always clutches up. if that happens the guy will be an ice cold killer in the playoffs and will probably get one or two more rings.
objectively you just can't compare the supporting cast though. jordan, bird, magic, kobe all had so much more talent around them.
this series was literally lebron and kyrie. have to give kyrie credit. but lebron is the only reason the cavs even made the playoffs and then he carried them to a ring.
may not be goat yet, but that was one of the goat playoff runs by anyone ever.
>>68712028
1) Jordan
2) Kareem
3) Wilt
4) Russell
5) Lebron
>>68716127
I need a link on that shit.
Curry
Jordan
Lebron
Bird
Wilt
Kareem
Shaw
Hakeem
Magic
Duncan
Kobe
>>68712028
1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. LeBron
4. Wilt
5. Magic
6. Bird
7. Shaq
8. Hakeem
9. Tim Duncan
10. Kobe
>>68719691
>curry
>top of any list
>>68719852
>only unanimous MVP ever
>not the GOAT
know your stuff my man
>>68719691
Get out of here with that shit
>unironically thinking LeBron is better than either Kobe or Duncan
I think /sp/ itself has become a meme
>>68712028
MJ
Kareem
Lebron
Magic
Duncan
Bird
Russell
Wilt(he picked Arnie off the ground with ONE FUCKING HAND)
Shaq
Hakeem
1. Jordan
2. Russell
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Kobe
9. Jerry West
10. Oscar
;^)
>>68714115
Anybody have the picture with Kobe where he has all his trophies but there's shaqs face on the first 3 and gasol on the other two? Plus there's also like a hs gold medal with d wades face? Please post this picture so I can fuck with laker fans
>>68719982
here you go
Someone with the picture please respond
>>68719906
Kobe is absolute dogshit, get real
1. Jordan
2. LeBron
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Kobe
6. Shaq
7. Magic
8. Bird
9. Duncan
10. Russell
Honorable mention to Hakeem
>>68716127
After the whole Knicks debacle, I trust nothing that man has to say.
>>68720353
>not sabotaging the knicks when you get there
I think anyone outside of knicsk fans would do this
>>68714115
>couldn't win without Shaq
Except those times he did.
>>68715880
UC BEARCATS
1. Jordan
2. LeBron
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Bird
6. Russell
7. Duncan
8. Hakeem
9. Oscar
10. Shaq
11. Chamberlain
12. Kobe
13. West
14. Erving
15. Malone
16. Barkley
17. Isaiah
18. Pippen
19. Wade
20. Nash
21. Debate me
>>68715333
Prime Kobe would Kill Bird
Nigga dunked on 7 footers for breakfast. Bird's knees would blow out on the first defensive posession
>>68712028
I don't watch NBA that much, but is refreshing to see an arguably GOAT actually perform in finals
These finals were the best I can remember in any sport recently
>>68713247
this is a retarded argument, pls stop
>>68720545
>no dirk
The guy's #6 all time scoring
Show him some love man
>>68720851
I had him in mind. Iverson, Baylor, and Garnett as well
Alright, you can replace Nash with Dirk (because nash didn't play defense)
Top 5 in no order, this is a fact btw, not arguable.
Russel
Wilt
Kareem
MJ
Lebron
>>68720932
I will argue with you. Wilt sucks
ok so LeBron wouldn't do (so) well in Jordan era, but how would Jordan do in today's NBA? Would he be GOAT again? Not a big basketball expert here, this is a genuine question
>>68721386
Lebron would dominate Jordan's era.
Read up on the illegal defense rules. Jordan would be average at best against today's NBA.
Lebron puts up better numbers against systems Jordan couldn't even play against.
He cheated defenses regularly by running iso plays and forcing 1v1 scenarios. Literally any "great" from the 80s-90s would be trash today. I'm being 100% serious.
>jordan
>win with 72-10 team with the GOAT coach, Pippen, and Rodman.
>Lebron
>win AGAINST the 73-9 team with KYRIE, some white guy, and some nigger called Tyrone.
>>68721438
yeah I think that's the case in most sports. They change too much that you really can't compare the players properly. Only boxers maybe could compete in any era of the sport, especially hw category
>>68721597
Most sports players can go back in time but not forward in time.
This is especially true in basketball. A lot of people don't really understand the impact of changing defensive schemes and how much better the average NBA player is today.
