Give me one reason why this team isn't the GOAT of all time
>pro tip: you can't
Maradona > Laudrup
Iniesta > Xavi
Cafu > Lahm
Buffon > Kahn
there you go pal
>>68641751
>Lahm
>not Cafú
>>68641751
>Kahn
>Not Schmeichel or Buffon
Also is that Donaldo or Fenomeno
>>68641828
>>68641829
>Cafu
>>68641855
please do not ask stupid questions
>>68641751
Matthaus was good but apparently also a huge cunt.
Otherwise I guess I can't argue much since you put Laudrup in.
because busquets is better than matthaus
>>68641828
>buffoon
>>68641751
quite good, similar to mine
>>68641894
what does being a cunt have to do with it?
>>68641751
Kahn was awesome, but you could also consider Lev Yashin, Sepp Maier, Jürgen Croy or even Manuel Neuer.
>inb4 who is Jürgen Croy?
An Ossi from the 70's, awesome goalkeeper, but he never won anything since he had to play for Ossiland and Zwickau
Buffon > Kahn
Cafu, Thuram, Zanetti, Dani Alves > Lahm
>pre 80s football
>no gerrard
>no hendo
>no sturridge
>no suarez
>Ronaldinho in a GOAT XI
Fucking teenagers. Ronaldinho wouldn't even make a GOAT Brazil XI.
>>68642065
>Dani Alves
please never post again.
>>68642085
>>96
>>68641751
Where is Gerd Müller?
>>68642019
Cristiano deserves to be in there and you know it though.
If he had retired around 20 years ago and you hadn't watched a single game with him in your entire life and only had youtube highlights, he would be in there.
Don't let your personal hate cloud your judgement m8.
>>68642093
Dinho left Barcelona 8 years ago. Most teenagers won't remember him
>>68642099
>Dani Alves
>not good
>Americans
>>68642150
Exactly my point.
>>68642100
at backup
>>68642153
>dani alves
>in the discussion of best RBs of all time
'no' I'd prefer someone who actually defends thank you very much
>>68642199
He's easily top 5 of all time. He was barely any worse at defending than Cafu.
Cafu would be called a meme with no defensive skill if /sp/ was around in 90s/early 00s
>>68642134
But I did see prime Ronaldinho and prime C. Ronaldo and I would rather to have Ronaldinho
>>68642254
I don't have Cafu in the team for a reason bruv, that is why Lahm is there
>>68642153
>Dani Alves
>Good player
Choose one
>>68642093
You're literally retarded if you don't think he deserves every bit of credit he gets. In his 3 years on top in Barca, he was without a doubt the best player in the world. He's the last player to dribble like that and get away with it. No one does what he did.
>>68642258
Yeah but you've squeezed Iniesta into left wing even though he doesn't play there.
>>68642323
Iniesta has played on the wing quite a bit actually
>>68642341
Yes and he only became god-tier after he moved into midfield.
If you think Iniesta was better at left wing than Ronaldo has ever been I just don't know what to tell you other than you're wrong.
>>68642323
He doesn't play there now, but he has always been "AM", but since there aren't AM in Barcelona he played on the wing as "interior". I'm probably biased, but prime Iniesta actually performs when needed.
>>68642418
no I don't think he was, you just said that he doesn't play there when in reality he has
Dinho and Laudrup are overrated
Buffon is the undisputed GOAT
i'd pick Scirea ahead of Baresi, but it's a tossup even for me
post goats
>>68642487
But he doesn't. He HAS played there ages ago. Would you list Pirlo as AM?
>>68642475
Yeah you are biased. Anyway my point is, if you can put 2 subs at striker to fit in Gerd Müller, you sure as shit can put two subs to fit in the second best player of our generation.
>>68642288
>>68642288
>I don't have Cafu in the team for a reason bruv, that is why Lahm is there
Fine, depends on what qualities you rate higher between those two but dismissing Alves as an incredible player is dumb
>>68642300
I'll go ahead and choose two
>>68642153
>Polish Barça bandwagoner
>>68642624
based ali dia
>>68642557
How was Laudrup overrated? No one talks about him except for hipsters who pretend they've actually seen him play. Fact is he performed for every single club he ever played at. Iniesta idolized him growing up, Pep has called him the best player in the world, cried when he left barcelona.
>>68641958
name a better GK then. kahn was good, but he choked hard and let fatnaldo score not 1 but 2 goals in the WC... van der sar? iker JUST casillas? schmeichel?
>>68642798
Schmeichel more or less carried us to victory in 92. I would reckon he was better than Buffon at their best, but Buffon has been one of the best for such a long time.
>No Zidane
>>68642019
put RUI COSTA on the 10 and im ok with this
>>68642798
yhasin maybe? but none here were alive when he played
>>68643113
yea, also football back then was soo different. i'd like to see him defend against the likes of ronaldo, messi, henry, van basten..
true true
>>68643622
>alves
Yashin
Cafu-Nesta-Baresi-Maldini
Iniesta-Busquets-Platini
Messi-Di Stéfano-Cruyff
Debate me
>>68646025
>Yashih
>di Stéfano
Grandpa please
>>68646178
Underage b&
>>68646101
>busquets
cheeky
>>68646256
>underage
you'd have to be literally 80 years old to remember Di Stefano
>>68646256
Yashin died before I was born and I'm 24
>>68642798
He was playing with an injured hand mogolico
>>68642093
Shut the fuck up Ronaldinho is the goat
where is Savicevic plebs?
WOULD BTFO EVERY TEAM HERE TBQH
>>68646743
>3 ofensive midfielders who can't defend for shit
>Lahm
>Carlos
>CR7
lmao
>>68646101
you have some nice nods to the ancient greats and i see what you're doing with spanish centre thing but seriously you want Maradona on the wing? wasted imo. also you left out bobby charlton and the falklands are british
>>68641751
I'm a bit confused, where's the English player?
>>68641751
because im not sure you got the REAL ronaldo on there
Why are people greentexting Cristiano? I wouldn't put him there personally (I'd have him as a reserve LW after Ronaldinho) but he has a case for inclusion
>>68646866
>bobby charlton
Literally never heard of him outside this website and names only by Brits
>>68646887
If he's in the CF position you can be safe in assuming it's R9. Cristiano can't play there, as he's proved many, many times.
>>68646881
le personal fetish for nedved meme xi
and if you are having davids why not roy keane?
>>68641751
no lev yashin in goal
easy
>>68646954
don't ever have an opinion ever again
>>68646930
literally used him for that reason re. jingoistic joke things brits say
CF king of blooters footage only in black and white
>>68646961
Because Davids > Keane
Davids was basically Kante but with the skill and technique of a no.10
>>68641751
I'm a bit confused, where's the Dutch player?
Ya'll need some Gennaro Gattuso.
>>68647211
look i'm not saying i didn't play european all stars on original ISS just for the pleasure of playing with Davids and banging it in from 35 years with regular impunity
but why are you trying to cover your guilt at the personal fetish for nedved because of two feet and only this reason meme xi?
WHY NOT KEMPES
>>68641751
>putting in Messi
>not Maradona
Nigger, Messi is a carbon copy of him. If you really think highly of him, there is no excuse not to put him in. It's like having 2 Messis without cheating.
Also:
>Laudrup
>not Zico
>not Zidane
>not Totti
Why?
>>68647353
Nedved was amazing though, what are you on about
>>68647528
this is now a Totti thread
> Ronaldo everywhere
> no Romario
> no Puskas
Also, where's Baggio, George "Liver Damage" Best, or Pele?
>>68642134
Honestly, I've made such posts today several times, but Ronaldo's football IQ is incredibly low for a star player. Is there any player that regularly makes such stupid decisions so frequently?
>>68643622
>Beckham
>overrated
Wat?
He is, if anything, underrated. Nobody is or was under the illusion that he was the best player in the world. But it's incredible how a guy of relatively modest talent could be so effective/useful to his team even at such an advanced age. (his Milan years)
>>68646101
>busquets
Who is this guy? Is he that good?
Btw, that offense is murderous.
>>68646317
Fun fact: this line up doesn't even involve Götze, Ballack, Gomez or Kahn.
>>68648587
busquets seems to be a /sp/ meme from the last couple of days? suddenly he is amongst the best of all time when all i ever knew of him was a fairly standard tiki-taka right place right time wop
unless there is something me and my casual racism are missing
tl;dr = busquets is apparently a very fashionable new meme
>>68646743
>Zidane as DM
>RC
>Beckenbauer as central defender
He'd be more like a Xavi/Pirlo like figure today.
>>68646881
Romario deserves a nod desu.
Is pretending Pele didn't exist a new and daring /sp/ meme?
Cafu was a great athlete but had shit for brains. Never liked him.
Dani Alves is only good for teams that let him do his thing. Could never play well in the NT for that reason.
I'd rather have Zanetti, Zambrotta or Lahm as my RB.
>>68649476
if we were playing against factory workers from the 50's id put pele in, no doubt about it
>>68648863
Busquets is one of the GOATs man.
Positioning
Shielding the ball and drawing fouls
One touch passing
Ball control
He doesn't need to run like a mad man to be extremely effective.
>>68649642
That's a nice compliment, because Pele was born in 1940.
Now go wave your Cristina flag somewhere else.
>>68646743
Idk why people are putting Maradona and Beckenbauer in GOAT XL's. Sure they were great for their times but the standard of football is so much higher these days. Even if they were the greatest of their respective era's in their positions they would be shat on by today's players.
Not to mention there's no way you cucks ever saw them play a real game on TV or in real time. Please stop wasting slots of players that would be considered shit tier by today's standards.
>>68646101
kek at Argie who streamed Barca and Milan games and slapped Maradona and Baresi in because he hasn't seen any other leagues.
>>68647528
>subscribing to the Maradona GOAT meme.
There isn't a single way in which Messi hasn't outshone Maradona apart from cheating and cocaine consumption.
>>68649642
>>68649790
Are you people this dumb? Don't you think the old GOATs would thrive with modern training, medicine and nutrition?
>>68649765
he 'won' the '58 WC u dumb monkey.
>>68649765
UN GOLPE DE TEMER
>>68649892
Nope. Maradona was a squat cocaine fuelled manlet. He'd be banned senpai.
>>68649897
Yes, a 17 old. Exactly my point, dear bankrupted fellow.
>>68649920
Damn you!
>>68649939
Well, you can't cure stupidity and lack of character. You got that right.
>>68649988
Remain mad. Doubt you ever watched a full 90 minutes of football before 2010. Sorry your memes betray you.
>>68649892
>Don't you think the old GOATs would thrive with modern training, medicine and nutrition?
It's not a given at all. Many old goats were more technical innovators than true timeless talents. If you put them against people who have seen their "new" tricks since they were 8yo, they won't perform near as good.
Also the kind of physical attributes required for today's football are different, and not all are trainable.
>>68650152
You are right, but any reasonable person would think that Pele or Beckenbauer would easily achieve today's fitness standards.
These guys played in shit pitches, got hacked left and right, drank and smoked and still had long careers.
I mean, if guys like Pirlo and Lampard can play...
>>68650614
nice bait
>>68650300
I'm sure they'd reach modern standards, but I doubt they'd be standouts like they were back then. And even if they were, they'd have a harder time taking advantage of it, because athletic freaks are a dime a dozen in modern football.
>>68650724
But they would not need to be athletic freaks.
Beckenbauer would need to be on par (fitness wise) with Busquets or Modric.
Some of our best recent players are not beasts. Iniesta, Zidane, Xavi, Pirlo, Kroos...
Even Neymar is not particularly fast or durable.
Actually, who is a freak?
CR7 is a cyborg.
Ibra and Pogba have their unique built.
Robben is fast as hell with the ball.
>>68641855
Both Ronaldos are shit though.
>Muh penalties and tap ins
>Muh two good seasons
>>68651137
odegaard pls
Figueroa >>>>>> Baresi