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Is he better player then Zidane ever was?
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Is he better player then Zidane ever was?
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Well Iniesta actually wins trophies so yes.
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By far.
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>0 (zero) ballon d'or

"no"
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>>68594955
He's better than penaldo ever was and he has 4
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>>68594895
>>68594924
>>68594947
>>68594950
I hate you people.
Zidane <3
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>>68594947
Zidane won everything aswell
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>>68594895
no.
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>>68594895
he might be
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>>68594947

is this a joke? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because you don't have an American flag
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>>68595015
Not the African Cup of nations with his national team
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Close

Best form Zidane > best form Iniesta though
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>>68594895
Yes

Ballon D'Or where fucking frogs
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>>68594895
Stop this shit already.

Iniesta is probably the best spanish player of all time but Zidane is a legend.
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All these kiddies never saw how goat Zidane was during euro 2000 he was just as good as inesta maybe better since he had some pace back then
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Pelé>Maradona>Iniesta>Zidane>Xavi>Messi
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>i don't rank zidane
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>gets carried by Messi
>"hurrr is he better than zidane"

oh wait you actually think one or two odd games every 4 years means something rather than two games a week for 300 days a year for 10 straight years, ha ha ha what a joke.
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>>68595204
Lol
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>>68594895
Yes, there is no comparison
>TFW you remember Zidane at Juve and how he was okay
>TFW you loved Zidane until teenagers on a weeb board kept trying to shill him as some GOAT and now you can't stand him
I hate /sp/
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>>68595204
ebin memes kid
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>>68594895
He's not even as good as Guti in his prime let alone Zidane
Get fucked cucks
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>>68595318
people literally rate zimeme zidane because of the world cup
>TF
>TT
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>>68595204
Jej
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>>68594895
Zidane carried the 2006 team single handedly to the final
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>>68594895
Obviously. Zidane played well 1/10 games,and did nothing for the most part
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>>68594895
Yes, almost as skilled but way more consistent and won a shitload of trophies more

>>68595015
>le won everything meme
8 league titles >>>>> 3 league titles
4 CLs >>> 1 CL
4 domestic cups >>>> 0 domestic cups
1 World Cup = 1 World Cup
2 Euro > 1 Euro
But yeah, there is no difference in trophies won because "he won everything"
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>>68595425
>Guti
>prime

He wasted it partying every night.
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>>68594895
Ehh both great. Zidane actually scored goals tho so tie
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>>68595193
Cuck, Iniesta is a legend too and everyone knows it
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Let's be fair, this is against Czech Republic and Turkey, two weak teams in the Euro

Haven't heard this much praise for Iniesta the past season with Barcelona too
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>>68595567
2 Intertotos > 0 Intertotos though
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>>68595567
"Iniesta" didn't win shit
Barcelona did

Vermaelen even won the fucking treble, idiot.
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>>68595567
It's incredible how much a match at the World Cup affects people who don't watch football year round
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>>68595574
Iniesta scores goals when is needed both at NT level and club level.
https://youtu.be/CQo42aWRdRY
https://youtu.be/LWHPYEzSLxo
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>>68595672
>Iniesta wasnt one of the keystones of Barcelona and Spain
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>>68595672
Iniesta was the key player of all of those trophies.

retarded analogy
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>>68595058
Kek
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Iniesta nor Xavi not having a ballon d or is a fucking disgrace
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>>68595672
>Decisive in 2006's CL final
>Fucking decisive in 2009's CL semifinal
>One of the best players in 2011, best football ever.
>MotM in 2015's CL final
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Zidane almost single handedly brought a shitty French team a World Cup trophy in 2006. Iniesta can't do that.
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Yeah, if you want me to be honest I'll tell that Iniesta is one of the best players of all time. Top 30 for sure.
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>>68595510
Seedorf only played well when he wanted to as well(mostly big games...especially on CL) and was lazy as fuck in small games and shit like that

Seedorf was also a million times better than Iniesta and same goes for Zizou of course
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>>68595425
Guti is my favourite player ever and even I know this post is full of shit
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Zidane was a maverick
Iniesta is a team player

Zidane was a bright star, but Iniesta makes everyone else better around him imo.

comparing each footballer is hard because of different styles/work rate/attitude.
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>>68595853
that is stratosphere tier
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>>68595961
Why is Guti your favourite player?
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>>68595703
I love iniesta I'm just saying I remember Zidane scoring more goals than him. Doesn't mean he did. Just what I remember. Iniesta the illusionista is a legend
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>>68595575
>Zidane proved himself at more than one club
>Memiesta can't do shit outside of Barcelona
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>>68595886
>a shitty French team a World Cup trophy in 2006
It wasnt shity,and the national teams were kind of shity too.France had one of the best teams of the WC.
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>>68595603
>Haven't heard this much praise for Iniesta the past season with Barcelona too

you weren't paying attention
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>>68595853
>Decisive in 2006's CL final
You got Henrik Larsson and Iniesta mixed up
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>>68595853
He was mvp on 2/3 of the finals spain won
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>>68595961
He literally won CL's with Madrid when Iniesta was a literal who
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>>68594895
gotta go with yes
Don Andres > Zidane
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>>68596000
>>68596000
>Zidane proved himself at more than one club
Which were both full of legends
>Memiesta can't do shit outside of Barcelona
Yes,in Spain.
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>>68596036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsdMmDwCY10

3:05

see that nice pass? Guess who
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How is that even a question?

of course he's better

zidane was overrated trash
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>>68596036
>Only one player can be decisive.
I know Larsson was decisive too, and so were Eto'o and Belletti.
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>>68595995
he's about the memest player ever
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>>68595972
This

But i disagree in conclusión

Football is a team sport
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>>68596087
Because Iniesta was younger?
>Distefano was wining CL before Messi did. Therefore Messi is worse than Diestefano
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>>68596005
1998-2000 I agree, but in 2006 they were an average team at best without him. He won matches basically by himself. Btw in 2002 when he was injured they sucked too.
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I still think the solely reason Spain failed at the WC was because of the red shorts.
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>>68596106
>Yes,in Spain.
Spain IS Barcelona
They play the same game
Iniesta is a system baby

And also Zidane with Bordeaux won the UEFA Cup in 1996 vs Milan
Bordeaux definitely wasn't full of legends
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>>68595318
Iniesta wins trophies both at Barcelona and the NT, Messi only at Barcelona.
Hmm, I wonder who gets carried
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>>68596087
So what? How's that an argument? Guti's seven years older

Plus Guti never played even one minute in any of those three finals
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>kids these days
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>>68596242
>And also Zidane with Bordeaux won the UEFA Cup in 1996 vs Milan
What? He literally did not, why are you making shit up?
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>>68596107
Larsson assited the winner m8

Also Arsenal was robbed that match by Refball
Milan got refballed in Semi's with Sheva's goal disallowed too
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>>68596242
you're embarrassing yourself at this point
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>>68596321
>only the assist matters
I-I don't even know what to say
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>>68595954
>Seedorf was also a million times better than Iniesta
Kek
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GOAT
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Iniesta is great but he will never play a match as good as Zidane vs Brazil in 2006. That's the best individual performance I've ever seen, all factors included.

All in all Iniesta has had a better career but if you want someone to lead your team, Zidane 10/10.
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>>68596219
He was a key part of France,but you can say the same about Iniesta or any great player for that matter,especially at NT,in which matches are more unpredictable
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>>68596465

>Zidane vs Brazil

literally youtube coldplay tier
an average Messi game is better than that, let alone Iniesta
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>>68596242
before 1998 world cup Zidane had lost three finals: uefa cup 96, CL97, CL98
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>>68596242
>They play the same game
Yes because Iniesta
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>>68596499
>tfw the first football game I remember is Zidane getting outplayed by Paul Lambert in the CL final
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>>68596242
>It's a proxyfag getting BTFO episode
I like these
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>>68596495
>American flag
Fucking trashed. Just stop talking about this sport PLEASE. NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, talk about those. Just piss off. Doubly so if you're a chicano.
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>>68596310
Shit
My memory is fucking up
I was referring to the quarter-finals of 1995-96 UEFA Cup finals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T90u5cS0sv0

Bordeaux went on to win the UEFA Cup vs Bayern Munich in the final
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>>68596465
t. a kid who watched his first world cup in 06
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>>68596576
>Bordeaux went on to win the UEFA Cup vs Bayern Munich in the final
They did not win. They got BTFO like 6-0 in 2 legs
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>>68596386
4 Champions League trophies with 3 different teams
Memiesta could never do this in his life

And if we're talking talent Dorf shits all over him...not even close
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>>68595961
Are you a Madrid fan?

I remember reading somewhere that Guti was hated by everyone in Spain back in his playing days.
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>>68596587
>>68596555
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>>68596599
Fuck
Sorry memory is fucking up again lmao
I could have sworn Bordeaux won that
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>>68596587
I'm 29 and I pretty much agree with him on that

At least when it comes to really, really big games, I've very seldom seen anything like what Zidane did that day
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>>68596608
>Memiesta could never do this in his life
He has perform consistently in the 2 times that he played. And pls Dorf was good,but not even on Iniesta's level.
Iniesta literally carries the most important games,being the MVP of 2 CL finals. His match against United was fantastic.
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>>68596576
>Bordeaux went on to win the UEFA Cup vs Bayern Munich in the final
Disregard this
Memory was fucking up with me haha
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>>68596682
>And pls Dorf was good,but not even on Iniesta's level.
Yes you're right
Dorf was way above his level

Dorf was like the Dutch Ronaldinho
Only performed when he wanted too but was skillful as fuck when he was serious

You can argue for consistency all you want and most players will be more consistent than him
But when it comes to skill Dorf is simply above Iniesta
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>>68596014

We did. It was all MSN. No cheer for I in there.

Zidane>all
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>>68596626
I am. Real Madrid's fanbase was split regarding Guti. Some couldn't stand his retarded antics and general lazyness.

The rest of Spain hated his guts though.
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>>68596495
>an average Messi game is better than that
Yes cuz Levante is as good as Brazil 2006 right?
Fucking retard
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>>68596608
Yesyes but now please take a step aside from the thead and get your facts right
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>>68596759
>Dorf was way above his level
>Dorf was like the Dutch Ronaldinho
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>>68596608
>Memiesta could never do this in his life
and that assumption is based on...?
Is being loyal to his club a bad thing now?
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>>68596792
>I dont watch CL football
seriously, you're either a burger or some brit and I'm leaning towards burger on a proxy
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>>68596744
nunca me dara un kalisa iniesta en persona
:'(
pa k vivir
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>>68596792
2006 Brazil was worse than Man Utd in one of the Barça finals
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>>68596465
100% this

>>68596495
>>68596587
You're fucking retarded, go back watching handegg.
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>>68596826
The facts are that

Dorf won 4 legit Champions League trophies with 3 different clubs
Iniesta won 3 refball Champions League trophies(2006,2009 and 2011) and a legit one(2015)

Truth hurts but somebody has to tell the truth in the end
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>>68595251
Fuck off sick boy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjmAZCNekTk
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>>68596871
>Comparing CL to WC
>Forgetting that Zidane's Real and Juve teams weren't as good as Messi's Barca too
>Forgetting that Zidane's goal in '02 final shits on everything Messi has achieved
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>>68596902
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>>68594895
>Comparing God to Iniesta

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>68596900
I'm not from here, gypsy
You're some youtube tier fangirl who clearly casually watches matches
I bet you 2013 bayern steamrolled through their competition and were the most dominant side ever
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>>68596902
>Iniesta won 3 refball Champions League trophies(2006,2009 and 2011) and a legit one(2015)
xD
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>>68596891
Messi couldn't put that kind of performance for Argentina vs way worse teams
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>>68596947
>WC being a better indication of talent
>los galacticos
That last green text doesn't even deserve a reply because it's complete retardation
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>>68596960
>Implying that Zidane was more than 4 spare matches and some random highlights
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>>68594895
He's not even as good as Zidane's son
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>>68596988
>2006 Brazil
>Good
You are pushing it.
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>>68597045
What about his wife's son?
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>>68597045
>t. I only watched 1 highlight video of Zidane,and I think he was GOAT.
Zidane was inconsistent as fuck,and he did nothing most of the time
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>>68596979
2006
>Sheva's goal disallowed in Semi's
>Lehmann red carded earlier when the goal should have stood instead and many many bullshit refereeing decisions against Arsenal

2009
>Chelsea 4 penalties disallowed

2011
>Blatant penalties for Real disallowed
>Goal from Real disallowed in Semi's(I think it was Benzema's)

2012
>2 bullshit penalties in Camp Nou vs Milan

I'm sure I forgot some of them but the atrocities this disgusting club has committed since 2006 in association with Michel Platini no doubt rivals even the worst shit Juventus has pulled in Serie A since their existence and that is no easy feat
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>>68597015
>Los Galacticos
They were a meme
Great players on paper but not a great team by any means
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>>68596774
Sounds hilarious.
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>>68597110
Oh shit it's this retard, it's that americlap who always whines about this
LOL he got banned
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>>68597110
ok now you're just pretending
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>>68597069
Messi failed against fucking Chile in Copa America
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>El problema de Iniesta es que le toco estar en la epoca de Ronaldo y Messi

>[y] El problema de Messi es que le toco estar en la epoca de Higuain y Lavezzi

kek
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>>68597110
xD
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>>68597154
I'm not an American
But whoever that was he was just telling the facts

Of course bandwagoners like you pretend to live in a bubble and pretend that shit never happened...but it fucking happened
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>>68597163
And Argentina was way worse than France in 2006. Your point?
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>>68597163
Zidane failed against fucking Greece at Euro.

Why are you discussing Messi in a Iniesta/Zidane thread, though?
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guys please watch my Zidane video and nostalgia, he's good i swear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIf07gQAbGM
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>>68597157
>>68597191
>No arguments because they know I'm correct
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>>68594895
But is he a better coach than Zidane though? :^)
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>>68597223
>And Argentina was way worse than France in 2006

>Argentina 2006
>Worse than France
Somebody hasn't watched 2006 WC
Not surprising since you started watching football in 2008 after all
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>>68597224
He's an imbecile that's why, he's literally some astronomically assblasted fanboy of teams barca has ass ravaged

>>68597230
make a webm, these nostalgic kids need a dose of reality
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Wtf no, he is a catal*an and a manlet too

Hala madrid
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>>68597236
>no arguments
xD
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>>68597224
>Why are you discussing Messi
How about you follow the reply chain?
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>>68597286
He's not wrong, France were a much better team and that does matter like you said here >>68597133
You're an imbecile who is being ridiculed
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>>68597299
4 Penalties denied for Chelsea


FOUR PENALTIES

FOUR
O
U
R
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>>68597299
grabbed his arm la
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>>68595567 Iniesta has, and will never have, a ballon d'or
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>>68597291
>Iniesta
>Catalan
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>>68596288
Cantona is italian lol
Will france ever have a good """"native""""" player
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>>68597319
They were not you fucking idiot
France was struggling in the group stage before Zidane started performing and carrying them

Argentina was one of the best teams in that Tournament by far
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>>68597352

>albania
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>>68597378
Does Jean-Pierre Papin count?
Is Platini "native"?
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>>68595204
>Pele
>Maradona
C'mon man
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>>68597367
He cant play in ba*ca if he dont have cat*alan nationality
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>>68597417
>'murrica
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>>68594895
Yes. Honestly, yes.

Zidan never was near good as Messi/Iniesta/Ronaldo
If it wasnt for ROnaldo and Messi, He would get around 4 golden balls
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>>68597319

kek what
Argentina 2006 was the best team of the tournament on paper and humiliated Serbia by 6 goals, the same Serbia that took 1 goal the entire 10 months before the world cup and had the best defense in Europe. They lost to Germany after losing the keeper to broken ribs, and in penalties mind you after having the lead.
Zidane just willed his French team to the final and then turned full ape, but he still is the reason France made it that far.
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>INIESTA es bajito. No tiene agresividad. Ni juego aéreo. No grita. No tiene 'velocidad'. Andrés tiene FÚTBOL. Mucho fútbol. Dale una pelota.
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>>68597448
>He cant play in ba*ca if he dont have cat*alan nationality
Wut?
Barca is no Athletic Bilbao
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>>68597319

No it wasnt.

France 2006 was literally Zidane pulling the entire team with him with a bit of help from Malouda and Ribery.

The rest of the team were cucks piling up in the back cavern of defense.
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>>68597423
They are both old and fat
Also
>ranking platini
Delete yourself gipsy
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>>68597465
Fucking this
Finally somebody who actually watched that Tournament and knows what he's actually talking about
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>>68594895
I think so yes.

I think deciding who was better between Prime Xavi and Iniesta is more interesting.
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>>68597484
You basically described most NT matches.
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>>68597499
Well Platini was better than these overhyped Spaniards nowadays at least
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>>68595204
maradona=pre-injury BRonaldo>messi>zidane=baggio>fat BRonaldo>pele
pele is quite overrated. football was much slower and teams didn't have the same goo defense strategy they have now
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>>68597479
It is actually worse
Hala madrid <3
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>>68597543
yes.
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Why hasn't chink moot figured out how to stop proxyfags from posting?
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>>68595567
>almost as skilled but way more consistent
see, this is a good argument. Saying that he's better than zidane is retarded. Saying that he plays at a consistent leve while zidane is much better at his top, but often underperforms and plays worse is reasonable
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>>68597598
He trying to work out how to block Americans first.
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>>68597484
>Malouda and Ribery.
If anything these 2 were literally whos back then and Zidane made them play better than they usually did
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>>68597499
Platini had amazing vision. Of course the times were different, but his passing skills remain impressive.
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Maradona is the reason why every player is put up to unbelievable expectations nowdays

"he can't do it alone" is no longer a valid argument nowdays because of this one man.

every midfielder needs a working forward who can ultimately put it into the goal

Zidane had Henry, Maradona had Valdano, Messi actually has no one which is why he lost 2 finals, but Iniesta? he did it himself. That has to count for something.
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>>68597598
Chinkmoot cant even locate his dick if you ask him to
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>>68597627
He's definitely nowhere near Zidane's skill

Consistency-wise many players are better than Zidane when we're talking about giving their all in every match that's not really news but it's pretty irrelevant to the big picture overall
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>>68597670
No one cares about your corrupted ass go away michelle hon hon
Hala madrid <3
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>>68597543
>overhyped

Not even Spanish, but come on bro. Your butthurt is showing. They are far from overhyped.
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yeah
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This albanian sure is mad
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>>68597670
He also was a profilic scorer and great set-piece taker
I hate him as a person(and especially as President of UEFA) but he was a phenomenal player no doubt

>times were different
Yeah he was playing in the same era as Maradona,Zico,Socrates,Baresi etc. probably the toughest time in Football by far
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>>68597673
>Zidane had Henry
Nice joke
Henry was always shit for France
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>I need the player I saw playing to be better than an all time great : the thread

I don't even rate Zidane, but his stats are better and he actually played in competitive leagues in a competitive era
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>>68597777
No he is an alright lad and said many nice things to me i think your butthurt is showing, nigger.
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>>68597716
>nowhere near Zidane's skill
Kek. Zidane has nothing on Iniesta's dribling,passing and defensive skills. Zidane was just better at shooting and chimping out
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>>68597727
I'm sorry but I will never rate players who won via refball
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>>68597673
>Zidane had Henry

Henry was literally who in 1998, and still a young hope in 2000
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>>68597821
Daily remider that henry scored with his hand should be in gulags for it
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>>68597853
>Spain
>Refball
When?
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>>68597853
Refball is what butthurt people always call.
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>>68597828
>he didn't see Zidane play live
Underage pls leave

Zidane's stats are pretty shit too
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>>68597848
>Zidane has nothing on Iniesta's dribling,passing and defensive skills
He's better at all those aspects except for defensive skills which Iniesta himself isn't amazing at either just decent
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>>68597886
Come back when you watch a full game of your pathetic excuse of a """"""Cunt""""
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>>68597560
Mix George Weah + R. Baggio and you get Pelé. The perfecto football athlete with the almos perfect football iq. 3 fucking wc.
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>>68597886
2010 WC


Also Barcelona in 2006,2009 and 2011(2015 was the only legit one)
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>>68597909
Zidane could only dream of being half the dribbler Iniesta is tbf
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>>68597803
Also this was a time where the defenders were ruthless.

Cristiano Ronaldo would have called his mama when being tackled from behind by those vicious 80s Italians.
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>>68597944
Iniesta is balding LOL
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>>68597921
>Weah
Eto'o or maybe Henry would be a closer choice
Pele was definitely not built like Weah
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>>68597909
>He's better at all those aspects
Kek. Zidane couldnt perform things like Iniesta's dribling vs PSG or any of his crazy ones for that matter. Zidane was just better air player,better shooter and better chimper. In every other aspect Iniesta is superior and more consistent.
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Pirlo is better than both tbqh.
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>>68597920
I am not Algerian pal
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this gypsy is getting btfo
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>>68597981
They tackled so much because they were shit at actually stealing the ball.
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>>68597981
>Also this was a time where the defenders were ruthless.
Yeah back then it was still a men's game

>CR
He would cry like he cried in Euro 2004 final every game
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>>68597893
Barcelona clearly refballed its way to the final in 2009 though. It was rotten as hell, worse than anything in the 2002 World Cup.
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>>68598048
Explain this pls

>>68597299
>>68597191
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>>68598004
>Zidane couldnt perform things like Iniesta's dribling vs PSG or any of his crazy ones for that matter.
Spoken like somebody who has never watched Zidane play

Your underage is showing
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>>68597941
>2010 WC
When?
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>>68598048
it wasn't worse than WC2002 and this is coming from a Madrid fan

Nothing's worse than WC2002
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>>68594895

>better player than Zidane

Go away with Vardy and memes, flag.
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>>68598083
Show us one instance of Zidane doing something like Iniesta vs PSG. Dribbling almost the entire length of the pitch and setting up a team mate with a clear cut chance
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>>68598030
Pirlo can't play without 2 bodyguards around him all the time

Without Gattuso and Seedorf(or Vidal and Marchisio at Juve) he's nothing
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>>68598083
Not an argument. Zidane was half the dribler that Iniesta is. The Nostalgiafags,that just remember his highlights like you are just pathetic
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>>68598045
Nope, they did it because the referees were more lax.

They had to develop different skills when the referees got harsher.

But Maldini in 1989 and Maldini in 2009 were equally good.
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>>68597848
ok you're just trolling now
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>>68597944

Kek.

KEK.

You wish, Barsa fag
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>>68597897
that's not me though, still he score like 1/8 1/10, while zidane is more like 1/3 - 1/5

iniesta is the most overrated player ever, he is nowhere near goat level

national teams also a good litmus test, seeing LoLiga is such a joke players score 40+ goals, yet Messi shits himself everytime with Argentina. Iniesta has 13 goals in 100+ matches. In a dominating team. Sergio Ramos has 10.
People's perception is altered beyond belief.
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>>68598145
Again not an argument. Zidane was half the drobler than Iniesta was. He has only shooting,heading and chimping over Iniesta.
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>>68597637

That's what I'm saying
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>>68595058
This
Gimme dub
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>>68598177
>seeing LoLiga is such a joke players score 40+ goals
Are Champions League knockouts a joke too? Because Messi and Ronaldo are the top 2 scorers there by a country mile too.
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>>68598177
Why do you measure a player's worth in goals scored? Small benis insecurity? :DDDDDD
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>>68598177
Iniests isn't exactly supposed to be a goal scorer.
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>>68598177
>Using Goals to measure how good is a midfielder without putting the context of having one of the best offeensive tridents in Europe
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>>68598147
I am a Madrid fan and old enough to have seen Raúl debut

Iniesta is far better at dribbling than Zidane, deal with it
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>>68597921
skill qise no doubt, but physically there's no way to say how he would measure up to weah or eto-o.
it was easier for a talented player to show off his skill back when he played, and he had around him a team full of talented players, so it's difficult to say how he would compare to other people from later times
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Zidane had a more vibrant and direct elegance, also more agressive and gritty winner mentality.

Iniesta more humble and confortable in a secondary role. But a deep ambition an carácter built not on testosterona but on ethics that fucking shines in important matches.
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>>68598250
And more consistent. I have abonos to Madrid all the year,since 2000 and Zidane was irregular as fuck. Most Nostalgiafags just watch his 5 minutes highlights and think that he was like that all the time
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>>68598269
Zidane lacks patience
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>>68598130
In my memory Zidane was more a safe player than a flashy one. It was pretty rare to see him do something bad or mediocre for his team, whereas I'm always seeing CR7 (for example) losing the ball stupidly since 2004.

Usually you passed the ball to Zidane, and the team was suddenly in a safer position than before.

>>68598100
WC 2002 was outrageous due to the number of refballed games. Even France got refballed hard against Uruguay.
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>>68596626

Guti had an immense quality but was inconsistent af.

He was keen on wrestling with the media, slags and nighclubs at 6am. But also a diehard madridista. So there was this love-hate relationship with the fans.

Him and Gazza would have been best m8s and toppest lads in town.
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>>68598110
>PSG
You've got to be shitting me?
PSG is a literally a meme-tier team

Zidane is not going to dribble directly past many players because that was not his playstyle

His playstyle was more similar to Xavi's than Iniesta's
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>>68597803
>>68597981
naw, urrent football is harder. Any shit team nows how to defend aggressively, tactically teams are overall much better, unless you are playing in the spanish league, and there is a much better athletic preparation that helps less technically gifted players.
On the other hand football back then was more aggressive and with more fouls. Our tactic against maradona was to put a player on him all the time and foul him before he even got the ball.
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>>68598325
>PSG is a literally a meme-tier team
So exactly like 2006 Brazil :^)

>Zidane is not going to dribble directly past many players because that was not his playstyle
Because he did not have the dribbling ability to do so.

>His playstyle was more similar to Xavi's than Iniesta's
And Xavi was nowhere near the dribbler Iniesta is.

Glad we got that sorted out
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>>68598286
Agreed. I love Zidane to bits but we've reached a point in which I'm honestly considering Iniesta might be the best midfielder I've ever seen play.
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>>68598177
>Messi shits himself everytime with Argentina


>top scorer in CONMEBOL qualifying for the 2014 world cup
>top goals+assists aggregate in the 2014 World Cup
>current top scorer of Copa America in just 1 half played

yeah he sure shits himself
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>>68598250

Then you have a very bad memory. Go watch some of his classic plays and that goal against Depor and come back later.
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>>68598325
>more similar to Xavi's than Iniesta's

that must be the most retarded thing you've posted in this thread and that's saying something
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>>68598219
>Are Champions League knockouts a joke too?
At this point they are
CL has been a joke in recent years

Madrid had Roma,Wolfsburg and Man Shitty in K.O Stage
A literal joke and a walk for them

I say it's time they brought back the 2nd group stage
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>>68598130
>just remember his highlights
but iniesta dribbling against PSG is one of his highlights
wtf is wrong with your brain m8
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>>68598347
fully agree, people just assume killer tackling = good defending
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Zidane was a danger to goal, Iniesta isn't, he's just a playmaker. Zidane was more complete.
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>>68598234
Neither was Zidane when it came to club level
But he did it for his NT frequently
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>>68598430
I just putted that as an example. Iniesta dribles consistently all the time. Zidane was good at keeping the ball,so is Iniesta,but he never dribled to his level.
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>>68598451
it's effective defending.
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>>68598402
Yeah he was a good dribbler. Iniesta still shits all over him. Is this so difficult to comprehend?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2FgsYLXlTc

>inb4 muh youtube footballer
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>>68595204

Messi > POWER GAP > Pele = Maradona > POWER GAP > Zidane > Iniesta = Xavi
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>>68598219
In a sense, yes, because you still play with your beefed up club. Ronaldo is actually a good player though, he showed it with ManU in the eplel.

>>68598228
>>68598234
>>68598238
because he is an offensive player? In a team scoring 100+ goals? Even Pedro could score 1/4.
only said Zidane was neither a striker and he actually got far better stats in that regard.

please continue jizzing over muh silky touch and sideway passes.
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>>68598269
>but on ethics
oh the fucking irony
this guy proudly "won" refball titles
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>>68598476
>Iniesta isn't
Not true. Is not his role,but when he has to do it he does it.
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>>68598414
how's this year's Real Madrid run to the final relevant in any way when talking about Iniesta? Why is your reasoning always so fucking weird?
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>>68598514
>beefed up clubs didn't exist before 2010
fuck off, retard
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>>68597163
Tha chile would thrash 75 % of the teams playing the eurocup right now
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So let me get this straight.

Messi can't be the best ever "cuz he didn't win a WC", a collective title which is played during a month every 4 years, even when he won 5 Ballon d'or and all possible club titles.
But Iniesta can't be the best "cuz he hasn't a Ballon d'or, plus, he had a great team, so it doesn't count", even when he was decisive in all of them and won all possible titles,clubs and NT.
Now you're just memeing
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>>68598490
the most effective defending is cleanly intercepting the ball. I feel stupid just having to point this out.
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>>68598355
No
Brazil 2006 was still Brazil

Actually he fucking does he rouletted the fuck out of motherfuckers in a daily basis

I never said Xavi was better at dribbling

>>68598405
He was
His role was more of an orchestrator rather than a direct playmaker ala Baggio,Nedved,Rui Costa etc.

His style was very indirect and unorthodox
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>>68598488
you attacked people for only knowing the highlights of zidane and then used an highlight of iniesta and then asked for people to provide highlights of zidane that are better than the highlight of iniesta.
and being better at a single thing doesn't make him a better, more skilled, player. Assuming that he is better at dribbling of course.
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I prefer Zidane but Iniesta isn't too far
the thing with Zidane is 2006 where he carried France to the final in a spectacular way. Without him, France wouldn't progress to the knockouts, they were playing very bad and with that Domenech cunt as manager.
Iniesta is a key player for Spain but they had been full of goats in every tournament they've won until now.
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