West vs East
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After two matchdays, the score is 3-0 in favour of West.
>France beats Romania
>Switzerland beats Albania
>Wales beats Slovakia
England - Russia was a draw so that doesn't count for either side. Today there will be two matches where West faces East again.
>Northern Ireland - Poland
>Germany - Ukraine
Will Western Europe be able to retain its dominance, like >we have for the past 6+ centuries?
Pic related, Western Europe. I don't care abour your own special snowflake definition btw.
Rooting for Ukraine and Poland desu
>>68362034
Of course, but you are an American and thus you should stick to Copa thread.
Same goes for the Brazilian monkey who went apeshit in the thread 2 days ago.
>>68362016
>finland
>west
>>68362094
Who cares, those losers didnt qualify anyway LOL
>>68362016
> Germany - Ukraine
Germany, Austria, Swiss = CENTRAL
Western people = Italy, Spain, Portugal, France, Ireland, Britain, and Belgium.
How much butthurt will a 3rd Spanish win in a row cause?
>>68362094
Greece should replace FInland, but since neither qualified who cares
>>68362232
why would Italy be western and the German block central?
>>68362232
Central Europe doesnt exist
It's a meme created by Poles to leech off Germany success
>>68362016
>tfw fully Western European group
>>68362301
>he's never been in a /comfy/ central European thread on /int/
>>68362301
>E. Europe
>literally poorer than Turkey
why do you hobos even live
>>68362094
>germany
>white
>>68362301
>Poortugal
Lol
>>68362319
>sweden
>west
>not mongol east
>>68362301
I thought Greece was supposed to be really poor? They're much richer than everyone around them
>>68362540
yeah, but look who's around them
>>68362540
Greece has been leeching off the EU since 1982 while everyone else was under Communism
>be so pathetic and butthurt you have to hijack the achievments of a region since your country got banged both on and off the pitch
Englisharias lol
>>68362301
>the entirety of Britain except London is basically East Germany
what the actual fuck
reminder this is the genetically scientific dividing line between the peoples of europe
>>68362301
Also it's pretty crazy how EVERY province of Norway is super rich, even all the way up the fjords. Places that are presumably almost barren. Crazy
>>68362511
Shut up Mexico
>>68362584
Let me tell you about Margaret Thatcher mate.
>>68362603
reminder that the Western part looks more like Bangladesh with every passing day
>>68362584
london steals money from the rest of the uk via taxes
we all pay tax, then the government disproportionally distributes it to london projects
>>68362605
the fuck are you talking about they have oil up the gills
>it's crazy how Saudi Arabia is so rich, even the barren parts
>>68362603
t. DeShawn Mendez, whitness expert
>>68362603
If you look at the haplogroups, Austria and Hungary are almost indistinguishable. There has been so much mixing in those parts that you can't define a line like that.
>>68362301
wow, most of the UK is pretty poor. They're almost south Italy tier
Slovenia is west too. Maybe more than Finland
>>68362301
>mfw USA would literally be all black if we went by these europoor standards
>>68362301
how can a shithole like france be so rich?
i thought everything outside of Paris was a fucking wasteland?
>>68362301
>leeds literally the only rich place outside of london
Thank you glorious Yorkshire
>>68362785
TOP KEK
dude the levels of poverty around Detroit or in the midwest are almost Eastern Europe tier.
>>68362800
>german finds out his country would be a poor shithole without bavaria
more news at 11
>>68362603
>I'm from the most mongrel of the western countries trust me I'm an expert
>>68362851
>Real Median Income Flint, Michigan $41,682
>Real Median Household Income Milano $47,928
most dangerous city in the US compared to your economic powerhouse
>>68362855
not just Bavaria, the entire south is pretty strong economically
>>68362851
>this delusion
there would literally be like three metros (Seattle, SF, NY) that would be black, and two or so that would be some form of purple (LA, Chicago). Everything else would be light pink to yellow.
>>68362817
also noticed this. Based leeds
surprises me that Cheshire is not dark blue though, which makes me question the methodology
>>68363013
better map
>>68363013
if you had to live anywhere in Bavaria but not Muenchen where would it be? need a comfy big city with things to do
>>68362785
i've been to the US and Switzerland and trust me, it's not even comparable
Switzerland (and presumably even Norway) are almost disgusting for how filthy rich they are
a nurse gets paid almost 3000 $ a month (and even though everything is extra expensive there, they can afford an upper class american living style)
>>68362978
ok so explain this
>>68363053
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=gfk+kaufkraft+usa
see images
>>68362978
>median household income
>not understanding economies of scale
what's it like being a pleb
>>68363084
Augsburg, Rosenheim, Starnberg
>>68362978
that map is not about income, it's about purchasing power
things are pretty cheap in Milan
housing is expensive as fuck though
>>68363089
>a nurse gets paid almost 3000 $ a month
you realize that's less than someone with a bachelor degree earns here, right?
you realize that nurses here make 7k a month, and doctors make over 12k a month, right?
look at this random job
http://www.indeed.com/cmp/Hawthorne-Lane/jobs/Executive-Assistant-17fd14704530f2c4?q=travel
a fucking assistant to a jew and you get 100k for keeping a calendar for him
required? a bachelors.
I've been to Switzerland and Norway, Swiss are stinking rich, Norwegians hide it well.
>>68363235
and yet this
>>68363095
>>68363235
where the fuck does all that money go?
7k a month is absurd
>>68362274
>why would Italy be western and the German block central?
See pic related
>>68363298
First of all, he's misrepresenting. The median HOUSEHOLD income here is like $50,000.
Sure I can find an individual job that pays 6 figures, doesn't mean everyone does it.
Also we spend like retards basically. Everyone has to get every iteration of every Apple product, buys a $50,000 car and enrolls each of their four kids in sports that cost $1000-2000 a year. Ontop of expensive TV Packages, and Netflix, pay $6 for Starbucks every day etc. and then they wonder why 50,000 or even more doesn't buy much.
>>68363386
Or in artistic impression
>>68363298
the income inequality is terrible here but if you can work a computer well enough to post on 4chan there should be no reason (besides depression or some mental illness) to have a bad job here
>>68363342
the problem is once you start making money, you get a family, a house and 3 cars, multiple TVs, electronics, and all the bills start to stack up. Also you have to remember that you need to save a ton of money for a child's education since it costs so much in the US
>>68363504
why do i get a boner staring at that alien's ass
>>68363403
I always wondered why did Americans complain about $7 an hour cuz that's like 2200 a month which for me is really good money. But then this American guy said your typical rent is like $800+, health insurance is the same, car payments, bills and you're left with chump change
>>68363089
3000 k really isn't that much like the amerifat said
>>68363084
Regensburg, Passau, Bamberg, Würzburg, Bayreuth (although the latter three are Frankonian).
Definitely stay away from Nuremburg, it's a shithole.
>>68363403
>pay $6 for Starbucks every day
fucking this
and every office job worker needs to go out for a $20 lunch in the city and then "hang out" at a social after work to spend on more shit.
it's consumerism up the ass, but really there's nothing else to spend it on.
Maybe travel, but I know a lot of people here that would just rather sit at home and not have to worry about anything than go to another country for a week or two
>>68363553
oops correction it's more like $1200 a month. Still though I spend less than that right now
>>68362301
that map is out of date, this is the most current one I could find
>>68363566
guess italian standards are just different
with 3000$ a month here you can pay bills, house mortgage, car and other bills, food and still have decent pocket money
i'm impressed because said nurse is the sister of a friend of mine who works in a nursing home, here for the same job you'd get little more than half
>>68363663
it depends on the location, but for example I live near Washington DC and the apartments in the city cost anywhere between $1500-$3500 a month
http://www.zillow.com/dc/apartments/
but really, if you work in DC there's no professional job that's going to pay you under $60k per year, and if they offer only that much it's safer to apply to other places and try to get a little more
>>68363822
I don't know about nurses but doctors here make more money than the president
http://healthland.time.com/2012/04/27/doctors-salaries-who-earns-the-most-and-the-least/
>Doctors’ earnings ranged from about $156,000 a year for pediatricians to about $315,000 for radiologists and orthopedic surgeons. The highest earners — orthopedic surgeons and radiologists — were the same as last year, followed by cardiologists who earned $314,000 and anesthesiologists who made $309,000.
>>68363890
doctors are a thing, nurses are very different in terms of income
doctors earn a fuckton here as well
but maybe i'm just misinformed
>>68363890
the US president has never been known to make great money. IN general civil service jobs are more known for making ok money for doing nothing
>>68363991
>Registered Nurse Salary and Wages by State. Being high in hierarchy, the salary of registered nurses is more than the salary of CNAs. As per the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average income for registered nurses was $71,000 per annum, in May 2015. The mean hourly wages was reported to be $34.14.
http://www1.salary.com/Staff-Nurse-RN-salary.html
but of course this varies by state and city
>>68364024
>>68363991
also you need to remember, the cities in the US are disproportionately more expensive than the countryside vs other nations. Plenty of people in rural American can live comfortably on the wages you mentioned, by the hyperconsumerism is heaviest near the cities, which includes the suburbs.
>>68362301
A lot has changed since 4 years ahmed.
>>68364368
it's unbelievable there are some people in Europe using samsung S3's, you couldn't even take that out in public where I live, it would be embarrassing. Shame it has gotten to that point.
>>68364444
consumerism is a mental illness
check'd btw
>>68365454
you italians love your luxury goods tho
>>68363788
That's density burro denso do crl
>>68365619
consumerism is rampant here as well
people get loans to buy phones and dresses
>>68365712
just out of curiosity, are you in northern or southern Italy? and are you near a city or more rural?
>>68362978
>Flint Michigan
Isn't that the place where tap water can kill you?
>>68365772
that's his point, but it's also a false equivalency because of economics.
>>68365768
Northern, i study in Milan but i commute there from further up north
the place i live used to be rural, but now it's very upper class becuase lots of businessmen from the city come here to live in huge villas
because of that even people from poorer families feel the need to at least look rich
my family's philosophy though is a mix of socialism and catholicism, so i've been brought up differently
>>68365911
Yeah, a lot of people don't understand the concept of purchasing power.
In the poorer parts of Portugal, you may struggle to find a higher paying job but on the other hand, for example, rent in those areas can be as low as 200€ a month
>>68366272
>because of that even people from poorer families feel the need to at least look rich
That's really interesting. I never would've thought that would be a thing. You see juxatpositions of wealthy resorts in old towns like that in europe (esp places like Italy, Switzerland, etc.) but I always figured the locals just didn't really give a shit.
>>68366400
>a lot of people don't understand the concept of purchasing power.
for sure. I don't think most Americans even understand within the framework of their own economy. Like said in an earlier post, people happily drop $6 for fucking ice and coffee at Starbucks but think because they're making a "decent amount of money" it's ok.
>>68366510
i think it's a recent phenomenon, young people have been bombed with ads since a very young age so they are extremely materialistic
also the Curch's influence is slowly fading, and the Money god is replacing it
we're basically becoming America, and i hate it
>>68364444
tfw i use a samsung s4 with busted glass, tfw all the students i see don't bother repairing their glass either. as long as i can see and use whatsapp and shit i'm good
>>68366715
I always wondered how much northern Italians were influenced materialistic from the proximity to Milan, being a fashion/luxury capital. Or is that overstated? You made it sound like it was more general advertising.
>>68362174
Pls dont bully
>>68366715
by the way, this is a very local impression
it doesn't apply to all Italy at all, just some regions that went from rural to rich very fast (like here in Brianza, Veneto/Friuli flat regions)
>>68362603
>Sweden
>Eastern European
>>68367031
see
>>68367142
if you go ten miles into the mountains you'll find a different mentality
any general assumption on Italy is wrong because of how diverse the country is
>>68366715
>we're basically becoming America, and i hate it
Also, that's why I hate certain places like LA. I used to visit there a lot when I lived in Vegas because my cousin worked there. There are some normal people there, but so many idiots who aren't rich pretending they are, leasing expensive cars and blowing $400 bottle service at clubs with their friends whom all work equally shit jobs as them.
>>68362800
the french riviera is a fucking gold mine
>>68366272
>socialism and catholicism
Nazi Black Shirt Detected
>>68362540
lmao, they pretend
like italy
>>68363181
>>68363609
Neither of you have mutually inclusive cities
I was hoping you would, so i could research more into one that is a general consensus great city in bavaria ;_;
>>68362956
>by A Mizrahi
BTFO
T
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>>68376390
hey there fellow Pole
Why is Finland West when the Czech Republic is east? I'm biased cause I lived in Prague for a while, and I know they were eastern bloc, but for fucks sake Bohemia is entirely west of Vienna.
>NI embarrasing humanity yet again
>>68366619
My best friend was offered a 120k coding job in New York (he's 21) and took an 85k similar position in Boulder, CO for this reason. He has like twice as much disposable income than he would living and working in Manhattan
>>68378639
It's not a geographic term anymore. Finnish people are Western, Czech people are Eastern. That much is clear if you visit both places.
>>68362956
mahmud pls
>>68378870
>at 21
literally how
>>68378986
US fuckin' A baby
>>68379036
not an answer
>>68379086
all the answer you need m89, capitalism at work
>>68378986
Well we are from a very affluent New York suburb so we are generally pretty well educated and I'm sure his dad has decent business connections. but more specifically he's the youngest of 4 brothers who all work with computers so he's been coding minigames and shit since he was 13. knew he wanted to code for years and had the safety blanket and private education to hone that passion into a very marketable skill. OR: US fuckin' A baby (if you're white and rich)
but yeah its crazy he just become legally able to drink and is already in the top 5% of american earners
>>68379253
we have capitalism too
I was hoping for an actual answer, as to what he did
like a university, internship, etc.
since I am a CS major too
>>68378870
how do you decide what is the best option? Like, do you look at those meme graphs about purchasing power or what?
>>68379293
ah, sounds clear
>tfw both of my parents are uneducated and I was never taught the value of school
oh well, at least it's not too late as of yet
>>68379316
He measured out rent, food, daily travel, and recreational expenses. the way he has it now he's got at least $1500 a month to spend however he wants (knowing him it'll be all on weed). In New York he'd have about $800, and plus things like beer, clothes, concert tickets, etc. cost more in NY than they do in CO.
>>68379429
Never too late homie. all the jobs that come out of CS majors are not only high paying, but more or less assured to never obsolete. Education is great but there are no substitutes for determination, common sense, and not being ugly or brown.
>>68379308
There's degrees of economic freedom and capitalism. If I'm not mistaken the USA is ranked higher in economic freedom then the Low Countries.
>>68362603
>donegal
>pink
fuck off brits
>>68362301
>2012
>>68363788
nope
