The ABUs are so fucking scared. Top lel.
>Ten, or even five years ago, I would have thought Mourinho going to Utd was quite an intimidating prospect. Now I honestly think it's just sad.
>'ooh no, City have got Pep, we better get someone famous too...get Jose!'.
he'll be sacked within 2 seasons
What's worse: ABU or liberalism
Leicester will win the league anyway.
>United can't accept their club is dying just like Liverpool
Face the fact it's over lad. IF Jose manages to do something, it'll last a season before he almost relegates you and destroys the club for good.
Why don't we just do away with managers and put the responsibility onto the players alone for training and performance
>>67768787
>Australia
>>67768754
ABU, at least liberalism has brought us great rappers.
>all this rationalising
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=314206.44320
>signing Mourinho, the 2 time CL winner with 8 league titles, is a "desperate roll of the dice"
>>67768781
>the club literally won a trophy yesterday
3 years without a trophy was considered a fucking drought.
>>67768845
it wasn't just 3 years without a trophy, it was 3 years of hilarious humiliation. you haven't even been close to being in contention for anything
>>67768845
Jesus Christ. Having an easy run to the final and struggling to beat CRYSTAL PALACE should show how fucked United are. Going the same way as Liverpool.
>>67768728
>ABUs
bet you've never even been to a game
you cringe
>finish 5th and win the FA Cup
>replaced by a man who was sacked in disgrace with his team in 17th
>>67768902
>ABU rationalizing
Oh I can't wait for August to come
>>67768902
His players quit on him for reprimanding the team whore
United fans were laughing at Liverpool for getting Klopp saying how he almost relegated Dortmund. Now they've got Jose who almost relegated Chelsea lmao
>>67768949
Klopp was so successful in his first season at Liverpool, he managed to win absolutely fuck all and finish even lower in the league than Brendan Rodgers.
>>67768949
He also managed to win the league with the relegation battlers Chelsea last season.
>>67768797
>thinking managers actually do anything
>>67768962
He came in half way through the season after Brenny had screwed it all you fuckwit
Can't wait for Pep to go hard on his ass again.
>>67769001
>halfway
literally arrived in october
>>67768962
Managing the injuries and fixtures with no squad depth and a literal shit squad, he did fantastic. Now he needs to sign his own players
Finished below Brens Liverpool but only by 2 points. Even then that's because he played youth in the league to rest players for the Europa.
>>67768984
Majority of players are dumb as rocks m8, they can't create tactics
>>67768984
Don't be a fucking plank
>>67769001
>Brenny screwed it
He fielded a reserve teams vs Swansea and west brom screwed himself out of europa next season
>>67769018
>there are people here that think Klopp's first season wasn't a complete failure because he managed to lose in the final which Rodger's squad managed to get him through in a competition he was literally not even able to get to with the same personnel.
>>67769062
He relied too much on Europa yeah, a mistake but in reality we should have beaten sevilla. Complete shit that second half
>>67769062
>wanting europa next season
Can't you see lad, Europa is a trap competition. We need to focus on the only true prize, the pl title
>>67769073
>but we should have
United, City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs should have won the EPL but they lost to many games
>>67769072
>Same personnel
But it wasn't you plank. He played youth against a lot of teams in the prem just so he could manage to get to that final.
>>67769085
I'm not talking because of expectation you melon, I'm talking from first half performance.
>mfw mou sabotages them from within then goes back to chelshit again
if the fans were mad at van laal's boring football then mou is going to drive them insane.
>>67768728
> Scared of Mou
Fucking kek.
>>67769083
Yeah come back when you finish in the Europa league spots before dreaming about league success after 30 fucking years, literally Schmeichel's sperm has fertilized, grown into a human being, went to school, started learning goalkeeping and turned into a EPL winning player at 30 and Liverpool still haven't won it.
>>67769089
>he played a youth against a lot of teams in the prem and failed to finish in the Europa league places
Exactly, so now you can enjoy not getting into the final next season.
>>67769132
He didn't want Europa next season you chalkboard. He aimed champions league via Europa or nothing.
Europa isn't worth the extra fixtures if he aims for a proper champions league place next season via the league.
>>67768865
>you haven't even been close to being in contention for anything
Literally won the FA cup yesterday.
ABUs in full damage control boys.
>>67769151
>He aimed
>He failed
And that's the story of failure of Mr, Klopp at liverpool.
Mourinho and Mendes are going to milk United to the maximum and leave the team in shambles.
>>67769164
The players failed, he succeeded. Gave us exciting football and showed promise with a squad that's complete shit.
Future is bright for Liverpool. All he has to do is make the right signings, and everyone knows he's good at that.
>>67769156
>LVG's record
>1 final reached, 1 final won
>Klopps record
>1 final reached, 1 half won, 1 half choked away your only hope of qualifying for Europe for the season, somehow keeping your job due to the false hope instilled that your team isn't complete shit because of a lucky cup run where you lost most of the matches you played unless it was at home.
>>67769176
>Players failed
>winning in the first half
>concede 3 goals in 2nd half
Kek, no
>>67769199
Yes. The players slowed down after that first half and Moreno played like shit. Kolo was our best player that game which says it all really. There's only so much Klopp can do.
>>67769186
>Sack a manager for not losing finals with a team that he didn't put together
Don't be this stupid.
>>67769186
>this spastic aussie
I'm as ABL as most but atleast get your facts right.
Klopp got them to two finals with that god awful defence
one they had no business being in and the other the milk cup
>>67769219
>Players fault
He fielded reserve teams and lost in the league, fuck off it was all his fault.
>>67769228
>Klopp got them in two finals
I don't think the mickey mouse cup counts as a final, but they sure know how to win when it doesn't matter.
>>67769219
No you sack him for not achieving his target of at the fucking very least finishing higher than his predecessor in the league.
>>67769186
l2greentext
>this rabid aussie united shitposter
>>67769219
Why sack a manager who managed to get you within a whisker of winning the league if your fucking captain didn't shit away the league and your players couldn't hack it. For another manager that literally can't finish above him and has nothing to show for it at the end of the season?
>Implying brenny couldn't turn it around
>Worshipping Klopp like some sort of german god when he's literally a specialist at nothing but getting into finals and losing.
>>67769263
>These mad as shit Liverpool fans and ABUs
>>67768728
Mou is the best manager on the planet, you will see. he'll have that UNTD squad thinking and playing like champions.
>>67769229
Christ you're stupid.
He wasn't aiming for champions league via the prem. It was unrealistic. He didn't want Europa because it's not worth the fixtures and injuries if they can push for a serious place next season via the prem.
He trusted the squad that
>Has no depth
>Is fucking shit
>Injury hit
Too much trust. Champions league would be nice for player attraction, but really isn't important if Klopp can still attract players
>>67769239
He finished 2 points less than Brendan did. He also reached 2 finals and beat good teams.
I don't want to know where we would have ended up had Brendan stayed. He cannot manage injuries, he would have added to the shit squad with more shit players and would sell all the good ones.
>>67769271
Brendan was carried by Suarez. Made to look better than he is. Nothing would have improved. The future would stay the same.
Klopp should be sacked if after he builds his own team, it still performs fucking terribly. Until then, he's blameless.
>>67769014
Can't wait to see the confusion on Pep's face when he asks Fabian Delph to do the same things he asked of Iniesta and Xavi and it doesn't work.
>>67769311
Daily reminder that the Liverpool fan's definition of progress is finishing trophyless and 2 spots below where they were last season.
>>67769312
He's not dumb enough to ask Delph to do those things I assume.
>>67769186
he reached 2 finals in one season mate
>>67769311
>Wow they got really deep in competitions that they didn't win and now can't play in one of them because reasons, plus now they get the added bonus of finishing 8th when they finished 6th last season
Jurgen Klopp: Managerial Genius.
>>67769073
>Complete shit that second half
Because of your manager's stupid tactics. The reason Liverpool fade in games and lose leads is because the players are exhausted. They're exhausted because Klopp knows only one way to play and lacks any sense of pragmatism. It's also why Liverpool have suffered so many injuries under Klopp.
>>67769343
Jurgen Klopp builds teams. This season is largely irrelevant.
If he's able to build a Dortmund team that was almost bankrupt onto a force on the European scene, then I can't wait to see what he'll do with Liverpool, a team he has financial backing at.
>>67769340
Doesn't really matter when you won none of them.
At least the other teams got to play less games and still achieve the same result.
>>67769367
>Exhausted
And when they're able to play great the whole game? Chelsea, Manchester city both games, Arsenal, United both games in Europa, Dortmund (bar the slow start )???
It's the players being stupid. Inconsistent players.
>>67769369
And Rodgers almost won the league but didn't and got to no finals. Yet you argue against his sacking.
>>67769368
>Jurgen gets a pass
>Brendan gets the sack
Fuck off,
Brendan Rodgers saw the retirement of literally 2 of the biggest players that Liverpool ever had and was never given a chance to rebuild and this johnny foreigner comes in and everyone is sucking his cock when he finished off worse and ended the season with nothing to show for it.
Brenny's teams got to those two finals.
Jurgen's managerial decisions made them finish 8th.
>>67769397
>Rodgers almost won the league
That should be an achievement to for Liverpool fans
>Lol he didn't get into the final
At least he ensured you could get to the final the next year. Now you can't get into europe unless you kill the entire west ham team.
>>67769401
Again, when champions league spot finishing became impossible via the league, he gave up bothering because the Europa is a pain in the arse, isn't worth playing.
Champions league was more realistic via the Europa, which was hopeful until the players showed their inconsistency yet again.
He hit and the players the missed the opportunity. Now he goes ahead and replicates what he did T Dortmund, only better now he has the money means to do so.
>>67769425
>Ensured you could get to the final
Yeah, by playing the b team against real Madrid. Good thinking Rodgers.
>"Klopp got us to two finals la"
*lose both finals in horrendous fashion*
>"Klopp can only do so much la, the players let him down"
*finish a place behind Brenny's team in the league*
>"Klopp didn't want to finish high in the league la, it was all about the Europa"
>>67769397
>lose and it's the players' fault
>win and it's because of Klopp
Haha.
>>67769445
>became impossible
It's Rodgers fault is it?
>Europa still possible
>Get fucked out of Europe entirely because you can't manage your resources and targets well
Yeah that's the managers fault.
>>67769474
It is. That's shown by how different they play under Klopp. Then at times they like to sit back and play like a Rodgers team again.
If you put that down to Klopp tactics, then it makes me wonder why he gets as mad as he does won the sidelines.
Remember back when Mourinho drones on /sp/ were saying he'll win the treble during his second spell at Chelsea? Yeah...
>>67769445
>Europa is a pain in the arse, isn't worth playing
>Crow about how you're going to win the Europa league and that's better than anything domestically
>Lose
>Can't even win it next year because didn't qualify
Sausage, liverpool tards
>>67769493
>Europa
No manager that is accustomed to battling in the champions league would aim for Europa. That was blatantly obvious when Klopp decided to play youth.
>>67768781
>just like Liverpool
Liverpool now have a top 3 in the world manager with free reign over signings in the summer. You are only fooling yourself if you think they won't win at least 1 league title under Klopp.
>>67769502
Most of those players challenged for the title 2 years ago; only losing because of captain fantastic.
>>67769508
>mourinho drones
I think you mean Chelsea plastics.
BTW what happened to the numerous Chelsea fans that used to post here up to last season?
>>67769524
>Aim for Europa
You have to at least be in the Europa league spots to think about qualifying for the UCL.
And if you can't even achieve that, what chance do you have of the champions league?
Even LVG didn't rest his entire team when they had to play against Livepool for the Europa league.
>>67769522
Europa isn't worth playing, but if that's what your left with then you play it.
Spurs for example. Easily going to finish in a champions league spot, so they play a shitty team against Dortmund because they don't need the reward of the Europa League. Wasn't he case with Liverpool, it was always their only realistic chance of champions league.
>>67769532
Sturridge and Suarez challenged for the title.
what the fuck is with the meme that LVG stays as director of football with mou as manager?
on what planet would mou endure that for a second without freaking out and backstabbing?
o the drama about to unfold
>>67769527
>top 3 world manager
>Never won an UCL or coached outside germany
Kek, mememund basically Bayern's feeder team.
>>67769534
they became lester /lifelongs/
>>67769559
So basically Klopp failed so hard he had to concentrate on Europa, then he failed at that and there's not even Europa next season.
Great manager you have there, breeding that losing mentality. Should keep up with Liverpools traditions of the last 30 years.
>>67769572
>what the fuck is with the meme that LVG stays as director of football
This was a few days ago and is complete rumours. No way this will happen.
>>67769557
Liverpool were floating round the Europa League spots most this season, the top 4 just kept doing enough to keep everyone else from getting any of those spots.
>>67769575
>Manages a near bankrupt Dortmund
>Clears the team and buys a new one using money he made from selling players
>Wins their league twice and remain a force in europe
Wow what a terrible manager he is :^)
>>67769585
Yeah it's Klopps fault the players were inconsistent, generally shit and kept getting injuried.
>>67769585
>breeding that losing mentality
Of all the memes about Klopp, that's gotta be the weakest. You should step up your shitposting game.
>>67769559
West Ham were in the champions league running until 2 matches before the end of the EPL and Liverpool finished 2 points behind them, they could have easily got 4th if they didn't field reserve teams against the likes of Swansea and West Brom, 3 more wins and they would have finished ahead of City literally.
Finish trophyless and out of Europa, Rodgers did better.
>>67769609
>injuries and inconsistency are only at Liverpool
He could have signed back up in January,
Didn't
He could have not fielded reserve sides in the league.
Didn't
>>67769628
Rodgers managed to lose 6-1 to Stoke in Gerrard's last game.
Liverpool certainly looked better with Klopp than before, but losing in two finals in one year isn't great.
I like him actually and hope they do better.
First step is to replace >Milner, he's simply average.
>>67769655
And even he managed to finish in the Europa spots unlike Klopp.
>>67769654
Right, so your plan as a manager would be to sign players that aren't in your future plan, waste money just to get Europa?
You're delusional.
>Side your main team and risk it getting injured before the Europa League final
Wow genius idea given their injury record.
>>67769665
I find your way of evaluating managers pretty autistic, but if that's the case, Klopp reached 2 finals. How many did Rodgers reach?
>>67769658
He is a good manager but terrible, terrible in-game decision maker (hence final losses), much like Wenger.
>>67769687
>just to get Europa
Well at least sign some players that will help you win the final(s), or at the very least allow you not to absolutely get smashed every time you decide to rest key players.
>>67769690
He has one first losers medal (league) which is the closest Liverpool have come in DECADES.
>>67769707
Again, not necessary for the future plan. Champions league, Europa, none of that is needed for next season.
Liverpool are in a great position to work from. His current side shown they can beat big teams and reach finals, now he fills in the gaps with signings and drops the shit players.
>>67769720
>one first losers medal
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>>67769687
So you're blaming injuries for the league place finishing, but not the manager for not ensuring he has a deep enough squad to make sure they get over the line for the season.
Cool logic bro.
>>67769738
You can always sell them away once you're done with them. I don't think you understand the Concept of backup. Liverpool don't sign backup players?
Rickie Lambert ring a bell?
>>67769739
Well Klopp has 2 but at least Brenny can say he got a Champions League spot trophy desu senpai.
>>67769720
But according to your logic he's even more of a failure than Klopp, since he concetraded entirely on the league (he didn't play and european competition, and dropped out of the cups to chase the title), yet managed to lose it by chocking back to back to Chelsea, Crystal etc.
Either way, Rodgers spent 3 years at Liverpool, Klopp should be compared to Rodgers only after he spends as much time, especially since this season is the first season he gets to build Liverpool the way he wants, instead of inheriting players.
>>67769740
You keep implying all that is nessacary for the future. Champions league spot for Liverpool is purely to help sign big names. Je doesn't need it. Because he doesn't need it, he doesn't need to waste money on players that might get him over the finishing line.
>>67769754
Same as above. If this team was already his team he would have done that, it's not so there's no point.
I'd assume the players were overconfident given how they reached the Europa League final. Didn't pay off. Underestimate sevilla? I'd say so.
If any of that was important to the future of his project, I'm sure he would have came here and asked the Australians what he should do next.
>>67769780
>He didn't play european competition
He played in the Champions League at least.
At 8th you'll be lucky to get into Europa places the next season. Who are you going to sign exactly to play in the league cup final title defence?
>>67769738
was finishing 8th part of your plan?
>>67769785
>Liverpool doesn't need players to help
>Jamie Carragher tweeting expletives about signing a left back in a cup final
Sure they dont.
>He wouldn't have done that
He didn't do it because he's a terrible manager and can't manage his resources. Chasing fairytales instead of achievable targets.
>>67769808
Don't question the logic of GODKING KLOPPP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE GOT 2 FIRST LOSERS MEDALS YNWAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>67769822
>Terrible managers takes a shit, financially ruined team, wins the league with them twice and leaves them as a European force
Alright.
>>67769843
>Dortmund
>Financially ruined
Top kek
2nd team in a 1 team league.
>European Force
>Never won a final
Well then Man United should be considered a European force because they reached the final twice this decade.
>>67769807
>He played in the Champions League at least.
Only after that season where he nearly won the league. It's universally acknowledged, Liverpool's tight title challenge that year was partly due to the lack of extra games. Apart from that 2nd place finish, Rodgers finished 6th and 7th during his other full seasons at Liverpool. Not extremely better than Klopp.
With Rodgers, Liverpool needed Champions League football to sign players, because he was relatively unknown. Klopp alone can attract players, but even if he can't sign big names, he's fantastic at finding talent and he has a very good knowledge of the german market, which is pretty good for finding hidden gems.
>>67769854
Dortmund were on the verge of bankruptcy before Klopp took over. To not respect what he did at Dortmund will literally define how retarded Australians really are.
I love Australia
I love New Zealand
I love Southampton
>>67769862
Yeah so why sack the man instead of allowing him to rebuild?
He just lost the captain of his team and one of the best CBs of all time for the club? You sack him and replace him with a manager that finishes 8th in the league?
Nonsense, if Klopp doesn't get 2nd in the league next season he's objectively worse than Rodgers.
>Dortmund were on the verge of bankruptcy
That's literally because they were bankrolling themselves vs Bayern uncontrollably. They were not the poor by any scale of the imagination, they had a spending problem not a revenue problem.
I love lamp.
>>67769872
So were fucking Liverpool shortly before Rodger's took over fucktard.
>>67769903
No they weren't you absolute donkey Jesus Christ Australia
>>67769913
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8025406/Liverpool-face-up-to-the-threat-of-administration-as-crisis-deepens-at-Anfield.html
Yes they were.
>>67769903
>when shitposting goes too far
>>67769913
>The club has been rescued, thank God, of the fantastic heritage of Liverpool Football Club, but it was a close call.
>There was the extraordinary situation where a club was being owned by the British and American governments.
>'They suddenly found themselves being owned by two failed banks that had been taken over by Governments - RBS by the British government and Wachovia by the US government.'
>>67769895
>Yeah so why sack the man instead of allowing him to rebuild?
Because his circle at Liverpool has ended, at least for now. Do you actually watch the league, or just shitpost. During his last months at Liverpool Rodgers seemed unable to deal with the situation, afraid, he generally couldn't handle things anymore. It was clear he had lost it. Klopp is a man who's the synonym of confidence, he would eat Rodgers for breakfast.
>>67769941
>Liverpool fans forgetting the fact hat their club nearly went bankrupt if not for some investors bailing out the previous owners
Jesus fuck these cunts are deluded
>>67769950
And the genius of Klopp is he manged to do worse.
>>67769961
Even if you were seriously judging a manager who inherited a team from someone else, Klopp still wouldn't be considered a failure in a league and a season where he managed along the likes of van Gaal and Mourinho.
>>67769961
>Australia doesn't understand what bankruptcy is
>sign mourinho
>buy a full 23 man squad of mercs
>lock the kids away in loan limbo
>get mutinied by mercs you signed and get sacked
Neo Liverpool everyone
kek
KEK
>>67769979
He took over in October, not January, He had a transfer Window and chose not to use it.
He fell short because of injuries?
Sign more players
Need to field youth in the league because of other more important targets?
Sign more players for depth
Did none, Finished 8th, Worse than Rodgers ever did throughout his Liverpool career.
>>67769982
Bankruptcy is when your parent company doesn't have enough money to pay it's creditors.
It really happened, If FSG didn't come and buy the club and inject money into it. Liverpool would have gone into administration, they were literally days away from it.
Please stop talking and pretending this didn't happen, it's nice to have sugar daddies but when they run out of money the club going bankrupt is actually a very real possibility when you leverage it against that much debt.
>>67770028
>t. Professional manager Australia
>>67770028
Nice memes. When a manager first comes to a team and is given a grace period to figure things out, like in Klopp's case, you can't just randomly sign players to use for some months. That would ruin any trust he's trying to build with the current squad and the board as well, it would be really bad programming.
>>67770051
>You need to be a manager to see that finishing 8th and blaming injuries and squad depth is ridiculous when you have a transfer window and sign nobody.
>>67769014
he has no messi to do that for him and cant buy the league like bayern do
>>67768728
>Be poonited fan
>whinge and bitch about boring football like the entitled little Home Counties brat I am
>boo manager from £1000 club Wembley box as he's lifting the first FA cup for 12 years
>start baying for Mourinho
Why are united fans so fucking stupid? Mourinho plays the most boring football known to man. Chelsea fans love him coz he turned the club from a top six to champions, but they didn't give a fuck about how the team plays.
I reckon he'll last a season, the PL is going to be the most competitive it's ever been, and United are NOT going to command the same authority in the market that Chelsea did under Jose.
>>67770072
>You need to temporarily sign players for a few months, just to finish a couple places higher in the league, to be considered successful as a manager
What is this, basketball or the nfl?
>>67770072
>t. Liverpool's greatest manager Australia
>>67770063
>grace period
Jurgen Klopp appointed on October 9th,
Transfer window closed on February
1st
A WHOLE 3 MONTHS AND 23 DAYS TO DECIDE TO SIGN SOMEONE AND HE SIGNED NO ONE.
Stop making excuses.
>>67768728
>win the league in four countries
>win two cls
>only manager to win a treble in italy
>have the highest win rate of any manager in the prem ever
h-he's shit la!!! kloppy will do us a favour, he's done bottling finals!
As a United supporter, I really don't want Mourinho because he will fuck up the only good thing van Gaal did: youth. They'll be loaned out en masse and stagnate, he will never promote anyone from the academy and he will buy a bunch of players in their peak, only to leave to club in shambles when he gets bored. By this time, youth is sold or never reached their potential because they were loaned out every season.
Honestly, fuck him, I'd rather suffer through the Dutch madman another season.
>>67770111
You don't, but when you say your squad doesn't have enough depth and you start your youth players when you're not placing well in the league, it says something about your decisions.
>>67770118
t. jurgen klopp dicksucker and excuse maker.
average age of mourinho's 04/05 chelsea squad: 24.5
>>67770110
>>boo manager from £1000 club Wembley box as he's lifting the first FA cup for 12 years
the united fnas cheered more for louis than they did for the players you nonce
>>67770120
>I don't even know which of my current players I'm gonna utilise and keep next season
>I know, better bring more people in
>>67770153
I was at the match you keyboard wanker
>>67770133
the only good youth players were from the 92
if you look at fergies winning squads post 98/99 they were full of outside players bar the 92 lot
that doesnt happen often
>>67770164
Why liverpool aren't a big enough club to sign back up players?
Rickie Lambert was signed to sit on the bench as a Journeyman striker. Why can't you make a few of those signings in January to make sure you're not buttfucked in March and April?
>>67770166
i was in the royal box you poor cunt
>>67770128
He left Inter in shit with an aged squad, Real fans were happy to see him out and we all know how his last spell at Chelsea ended.
He gets progressively worse as the years pass.
>>67770164
Liverpool sign players for one year literally all the fucking time. Ballotelli, Lambert,
They loaned Manquillo last year,
What's wrong with loaning players in January or signing backups?
All liverpool transfer conducted with the long term in mind?
Don't make me fucking laugh.
>>67770120
Kek, you're a fucking moron.
Everyone knows the January market is inflated as fuck. Why would you overspend on players you don't want in the longterm so that you can finish one or two places higher and achieve literally nothing?
Liverslip are actually well placed now to rebuild and consolidate for a push in the League next season. Being in Europa would only jeopardise that.
>>67770185
Because that's something you do when you, the manager, have prepared the team in the off season yourself and generally a concrete plan exists. This time it was a test season for Klopp, everyone knows it.
>>67770231
That was under Rodgers. Klopp can't be expected to take responsibility for his predecessor's actions.
>>67770185
Rickie Lambert was a fucking disaster and is LITERALLY a case study of why your """logic""" is fucking retarded. You stupid wog.
>>67770257
>Inflated as fuck
January market isn't inflated, literally nobody worth a damn will sign anyone because all the players worth buying are cup tied. You can still find back up signings anytime. Surely you can find a few players better than the Liverpool Youth Reserves?
>>67770279
>Disaster
Rickie Lambert blows the fuck out of whatever useless shit is in the Liverpoo youth/reserves anytime.
>>67770259
Yes, he did much better by signing no-one and finishing 8th.
>>67770288
So in the same post, you concede that "there are no players worth signing" in January, and yet you say Liverpool should have signed players anyway? Are you even capable self-awareness?
>>67770303
Incorrect. Both are equally useless.
>>67770303
So what? Chelsea finished under Liverpool, lmao.
>>67770319
>There are no players worth signing
If you're Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Juventus, City, United, Arsenal or other clubs of the like there aren't.
But if you're liverpool lingering outside the top 6 there's plenty.
>>67770327
Wow, how amazing, I wonder what happened to the Chelsea manager because of that fact.
OH RIGHT FUCKING SACKED
>>67770173
But players like Rashford who show great promise will not get anywhere under Mou. Also, they don't have to come from the academy. Even Martial will struggle to get playing time under Mou.
>>67770340
You are working under the assumption that finishing 6th is better than finishing 8th to a meaningful extent.
Why are you making that assumption?
>>67770351
Mou was sacked because he made a mess out of the locker room.
>>67770372
Mou was sacked because he was lingering above the relegation zone.
>>67770363
because 6th is better than 8th. You get to possibly go to the Europa league final next year.
8th gets you nothing, except maybe the chance of your best players leaving if they have any semblance of ambition.
Gold Star.
>>67770383
Yes, and that was because he JUST fucked the locker room up. Most players weren't even willing to try after that.
>>67770383
He would have been given the chance to fix it, but he lost the respect of the locker room.
>>67770407
How would you know Chelsea player-san?
The fact is that his league position got him the sack. Klopp seems immune to that somehow, He's literally just a fancier Alan Pardew.
>>67770426
>How would you know Chelsea player-san?
Because I actually watch football and know a thing or two, I'm not just shitposting. Players sabotaging the manager when they have no respect for him isn't unheard of.
>>67770426
What is the point of sacking a manager before he has had the chance to spend the summer buying and training players? That doesn't make sense.
If that was the way football worked, clubs would end up going through every manager under the sun and managers like Fergie would never have had the chance to shine.
>>67770434
>watch football and know a thing or two
Mourinho got sacked because his team wasn't performing.
Klopp should get the same because his team isn't performing either. It's clear his players don't want to win for him considering how they choked 2 finals away.
>>67770407
He fucked up by giving the squad too much holiday and no proper pre-season. They weren't fit when season began and by the time all the shit results started piling up Jose tried to impose his usual authoritarian methods on squad which just made the situation worse (coupled with predictable and stale tactics, and a refusal to change them)
>>67770447
>autism
>>67770443
I'm asking what the point of changing a manager is if you successor isn't going to improve on your league position?
Why wasn't Rodgers given a chance to turn it around?
>>67770456
Answer the question, Klopp gets a free pass to eighth, while Rodgers gets sacked for finishing 7th, 2nd and 6th.
Progress in Liverpool's eyes is winning fuck all and finishing lower than last season.
He was right.
>>67770461
I think the idea of bringing Klopp in now was to get him used to English football and managing I'm general. He had spent a bit on the sidelines.
Getting a new manager is a big deal, and doing it early is a good thing so the new manager can get an idea of who to sell and who to keep.
I'd imagine if they had let Rodgers ride this season out and then sacked him, either Klopp would have been grabbed by United/Chelsea or he could have came to Liverpool and kept those players for next season.
>>67770475
Answer the question, Mou gets free deal with ManU for almost relegating Chelsea, while van Gaal gets sacked for finishing 6th and winning a cup.
Failure in Manchester's eyes is winning the FA Cup and securing a european spot.
>you
>>67770492
What I'm saying is that Klopp needs to be scrutinized and questioned for his decisions. There's seems to be some sort of untouchable aura around him but the truth is he's done worse than Rodgers ever did during his time at Liverpool, not a good start for a 'supermanager' rivaled only by pep.
It's 1am in Australia and a poonited fan is getting hilariously butthurt at the responses to his retarded thread
Rival to the flying dutchman IMO. Entertaining watching a meltdown like this. United have such pathetic """"fans"""". Their actual fans are ok though
>>67770526
To be fair, Klopp doesn't have a Suarez and fit Sturridge from the get go.
Sure you could say some of his decisions were questionable, but if he's trying to implement his play style into a squad that sometimes accepts it and sometimes rejects it, some blame has to be put on the players.
Either way, the players he keeps will now be used to playing Klopps football which makes things easier for next season.
>>67770506
Mou has won the Champions League in two different countries and league titles everywhere he's managed. He literally just won the league last season.
There's clearly more than enough belief that he can do it again and last season was just a blip. And he literally even said that he was betrayed by the players.
Meanwhile Klopp also nearly relegates Dortmund and gets a free pass in Liverpool where he finished worse than at any point in Rodgers career at Liverpool and gets plaudits everywhere for 'regenerating' Liverpool.
Pick out the conman.
>>67770531
Fuck off Irish Liverpool dicklicker.
>>67770589
Klopp also hasn't managed the biggest and richest teams. It's an unfair comparison.
>>67770603
I hate Liverpoo
>>67770607
Dortmund is for sure much richer than Liverpool is.
>>67770625
Dortmund were not financially able to spunk money everywhere like other clubs. What he did with Dortmund as nothing short of spectacular.
Your opinions carry a bias standpoint.
>>67768800
*rapists
>>67770649
Liverpool were similarly nearly bankrupt before Rodgers took over, and Any money Rodgers 'spunked' away were from the sale of Suarez anyway.
>>67770589
>United before van Gaal: 7th
>First van Gaal's season: 4th
>Second van Gaal's season: 5th
>He also lead them to a title, first one in 3 years.
Why are Manchester such backstabbing cunts? van Gaal was consistent (as shown by the league finishes) and would probably do even better after that boost from fa cup. He could be given 1 more year, but Mourinho, a man who almost relegated a team, gets a free pass? I don't understand, please help me.
>>67769014
>poop
>relevant on Barca success
kek
KEK
>>67770110
Match-going United fans have been very supportive of Van Gaal. Just like they were with Moyes.
Man Utd having bad supporters is a total myth. They're some of the best in the league.
>>67770673
>backstabbing
Van Gaal spent 250 million pounds and couldn't achieve his targets.
He wasn't backstabbed, he set the targets himself. He brought in his own players and failed.
>Mourinho who almost relegated a team
He also won the title last year. Something United haven't been able to do for 3 years.
Also Klopp nearly relegated Dortmund in his last year there, he goes to Liverpool and is moving them towards the dropzone chasing fairytales now.
Good luck.
Want to get the best of Mourinho? Don't fucking give him control over transfers at all
>>67770723
Mourinho had a pretty expensive squad at his disposal, even if he didn't spend any money during one season, he should've still been able to at least compete. Yet he failed. Him winning a title 1 year ago doesn't matter, because they were both working during that season. This season van Gaal was better than Mourinho, yet first one was sacked in favor of the other. That's a fact.
>>67770673
>He actually thinks that Mourinho won't get sacked the moment he doesn't deliver the targets at Man Utd.
>>67770672
Klopp spent at most £20M on a player whilst at Dortmund, and even that is a rare figure from Klopp.
Each expensive player he bought, turned out to be fantastic players and still are (bar one).
When he took over Dortmund, nothing big happened the first 2 seasons, it all started to happen when he identified class talent and implemented his style.
I know you need to slate Liverpool as you're a United senpai, but drop the bias.
Klopp is a class manager, I'd never say no to his talent at Southampton.
>>67770799
He won the title last year and the squad couldn't give a fuck this year.
Maybe his time was up there, good luck to Conte though, I really don't see him doing any better at that plastic shithole.
Mourinho is a good manager and as a >fan of a smaller club (not City), I am a bit worried that we will be beaten by his team.
I can also see him win a few trophies, but that doesn't bother me because Manure have been doing that for decades. They're just a successful club. I do wonder how long he will last there. And what happens afterwards.
>>67770722
>Best in the league
>Old Trafford half empty for last games
>claim their way support is best
>get outsung by a bunch of plastic bundesliga wannabees for 120 mins at Wembley
>>67770812
That's really his choice though, Leicester never spent any amount of money and managed to win the league as well. Do you really think Ranieri masterminded that shit?
>>67770823
Damn, the reputation of Australian posters is real
>>67770800
He won't immediately, because he gets to ride on the excuse of Moyes and van Gaal keeping Manchester down. He's a master at finding excuses and putting real problems of his teams under the mat, did you forget the time he was saying "Chelsea are undergoing a transition period"? If things go really bad for him, he'll drink wine with Fergie and suck him off, that'll buy him more time.
>>67770837
>half-empty
[citation needed]
I think you're mistaking it with the Emptyhad
>>67770852
Don't you have a plane to find mohammed?
>>67770863
>He gets to ride on the excuse
Just like Moyes and Van Gaal did right?
Oh right, they spent a combined total of 32 months at the club.
>>67770848
The point I'm putting across is that you've slated him because there's been no improvement st Liverpool, yet the same thing happened at Dortmund. It was still lackluster football that Dortmund aren't used to. He revitalised them.
Give Klopp time and then we'll see if he's worth he hype.
Just think though, if Dortmund had gotten rid of Klopp after his first season, would they be where they are now? I think not.
>>67770863
Well Klopp is still at the club riding the honeymoon period, he'll probably still be at the club next season even if they finish 8th again.
He's the magic man immune to all criticism.
>>67770867
Dude, calm down lel. It seems like supporting this club is too important for you that your life has become a joke. Please reconsider your life
>>67770823
>good luck to Conte though, I really don't see him doing any better at that plastic shithole
To be fair to Gonde, his speciality is exactly motivating the team day to day, year after year, so he might do better than Mou at Chelsea.
Well in the league anyway, not like I expect him to go anywhere in the CL.
>>67770888
Moyes was Fergie's chosen. My personal opinion is that Fergie was really hoping he'd fail, seeing that when he retired, he hadn't really prepared Manchester for the next era. van Gaal was given some extra time after Moyes' run, he even said himself it will be a tough rebuilding.
>>67770907
>Give him time
He has had 3/4s of a season and he managed to finish lower than last year with the same squad.
I'm not saying you should sack him, I'm just saying it deserves scrutiny, not the smokescreen of 'we got to the final'
>>67770867
Literally just watch the highlights of the match. United have also been caught reporting incorrect attendance figures for the past few years. They claimed it was 75000 at the match but you only had to watch the match to see that every stand was half full
>>67770926
>CL
>Chelsea
If he delivers the league in 2 years, it's a big achievement imo
>>67770917
>He's the magic man immune to all criticism.
He's the first one to critisize things. He doesn't hesitate to say "we played like shit" when that's the case. He's original, unlike Mourinho who starts shit whenever things don't go his way.
>>67770952
That was played on a Tuesday night, 5 days before a fucking FA cup final, and literally after a fucking bomb scare farce.
You think everyone would bother showing up after that?
Please report things in context next time
>>67770943
You called for his sacking early on in his thread.
If they finish 8th next season, then I'll agree. However with the financial backing Klopp will get I just don't see that happening.
>>67770963
Yeah they played like shit. It's his fault. So why don't the media criticize him?
All I hear is them waxing lyrical over how great he is and how he managed to revive liverpool, they ignore the fact that he made decisions that ruined a lot of Liverpool's season.
>>67770980
But I thought United's fans came from Manchester...? Cant have been that hard to travel to OT midweek
>>67770994
I didn't call for his sacking, I said other managers who did better got the sack. He doesn't even get criticism.
>>67771010
Maybe all of them went to london for you know, THE FA CUP FINAL :DDDDDD
>>67770956
Oh right, I forgot how shit they finished this year.
Still, what I meant is that Chelsea likely won't have motivation issues with Conte next year. They might have tactical issues tho, he can be stupid that way. Then again, it's the epl: managerial level is pretty low on average.
>>67771010
>people have work the next morning
>traffic an absolute nightmare after a game, probably end up arriving home an hour later than expected
>meaningless dead rubber game against nothing opponents
Literally happens to every midweek game
>>67771052
So much for best fans in the country. Don't have any problem selling midweek CL match day packages to all the plastics from the south and the tourists
>>67770952
>showing pictures close to half time where everyone has left their seat to go elsewhere
>It's a tuesday night after a bomb scare farce a few days before the FA cup final.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2015/May/louis-van-gaal-thanks-manchester-united-fans-in-speech-on-old-trafford-pitch.aspx
Please stop
>>67771037
Yeah. If they have a striker that isn't Coshit while Hazard and Cesc on form, they might compete for the league again
>>67770479
Time to put your tinfoil hat back on and go hang yourself.
>>67771126
rude.
>>67769527
>klopp
>top three in the world
>implying he's anywhere near the likes of Ancelotti, Simeone, Mourinho and Guardiola
top fucking kek
united aren't relevant enough to have ABUs
you have people who laugh at you, but ABUs do not exist
>>67771029
>>67771095
You idiot plastics do realise that each club only gets about 28k non-corporate tickets for the FA cup final? Doesn't add up does bandwagoners? I don't suppose either of you have ever even been to Manchester though
>>67771084
>best fans in the country
There were more fans at the Bournemouth game and they stayed to clap the team on a Tuesday than the Etihad on a Sunday for a Premier League winning manager that's for sure.
>>67771196
>meanwhile at the emptyhad
Have fun filling up your midweek dead rubber fixtures faggot. That and the old trafford capacity is 75k so even half empty that's more than most stadiums full.
>>67771223
City played away you absolute clown
>1st season: 2nd
>2nd season: 1st, CL semi
>3rd season: sacked
>win FA cup final in dramatic fashion
>not a single question in post-match conference has anything to do with the game
The english press are literally a walking cancer.
>>67771255
Their last home fixture was a sellout, except they didn't actually stay to thank the manager or the players.
>>67771301
Why do you seem to think I support City? Im not Northern but I know plenty of actual Mancs who support United and believe me they fucking hate all you foreign bandwagoners for ruining their club
>>67771340
>They hate you
>Muh EPL belongs to Manchester
Your Coach is foreign, your best player is foreign, your biggest signing this season is foreign.
>Bandwagonners ruining their club
Manchester United is literally only relevant because of all the sponsorship dollars they have and the fact that Adidas forked out billions because they sell more shirts than Real Madrid.
>I'm not northern, I know plenty of Mancs
Fuck off you southern fairy,
>>67769425
>Now you can't get into europe unless you kill the entire west ham team.
Be careful, don't give them any ideas.
>>96
>>39
>all these retards finding excuses for mourinho
I know he's /b/ the manager but he is cancer and I'm not even a city fag
>>67771340
And when did I Imply you support City? I'm just suggesting that City fans are plastic shits compared to United ones.
>>67771433
Again all these assumptions. I'm not southern and I don't support a prem club, but if you want to be some casual armchair wanker, fine, but you're not a proper fan and you never will be
>>67771479
>Anything outside the north
>not a southern fairy
>I hate United because they have a global following while my shitcunt team can't even get supported outside of my nan and my aunt.
>>67771456
Because those managers tried managing teams that aren't the only team in the league.
>>67771479
Why don't you support your closest pub team then?
Fuck off bandwagonner.
>>67771516
>Because those managers tried managing teams that aren't the only team in the league.
and failed
>>67771543
>Barcelona After pep
>literally still winning titles on Autopilot
>Bayern
>UCL winners and winning things on Autopilot
Great manager, knows how to pick his teams.
>>67771613
bayern before pep*
>>67771613
>literally still winning titles on Autopilot
well actually their only trophy was 1 Liga in the 2 years with Tito and Martino. They needed Suarez and Neymar to boost again. But do you expect a good manager's team to crumble completely after he's gone?
>>67771698
No, but like I said, he knows how to pick his teams.
and they literally just won the UCL last year.
>>67768728
>scared
more like fucking delighted lad
at least 2 more seasons of mid table struggling, loving this desu
>>67771733
if he didn't know how to pick his teams where do you suppose he'd be in 2016-17? Accrington Stanley? Or was he always going to manage a top CL club?
>>67771763
Probably Juventus
>>67771777
which is the Italian Bayern, i.e. we're back to square 1
>>67770666
>>67768800
checked
>>67771801
Yep, the fact that he took the Arab oil money is going to be the biggest challenge of his managerial career.
Dis gonn be gud, considering Mourinho going to be his neighbour literally.
>Ctrl + F "klopp"
>65 matches found
It really is pathetic just how obsessed manure fags truly are
>>67771890
No one brought him up at all before someone brought him up literally suggesting he's better than mourinho.
>>67771890
If you bothered to read the thread, a buttblasted ABU brought Klopp into this.
>>67771833
I would argue his biggest challenge was winning the treble in his first season with a team who had collapsed the previous season and subsequently developing Messi and rebuilding the team without their previous 2 main goalscorers in Henry and Eto'o
