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How do we stop them?
Madrid and Barca camping the Champions League
Sevilla camping the Europa
they are cucking everyone
Take away their refs.
By enforcing a strict drug testing regime
>>67681233
Cien Mil Hijos de San Luis
>>67681345
>Not Atletico despise being in 2 CL finals in 3 years
I don't know about barca, real and atletico, but instant replay would be enough to stop sevillawinslol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxhs0mXqQYg
>>67681472
Wins: 0
Drug testing or coming to collect on their crippling debt
join them
>Tfw my spaniard bf is from Sevilla
>>67681233
By having fair refs, but that will never happen as long as UEFA exists
>>67681233
Take away that fascist flag, you prick.
Jobs.
>>67682299
>italian leftist
Disgusting.
>>67682385
I'm a Spanish leftist though. Just working here.
>>67681233
>we
We convince UEFA to start having fair referees
>>67682325
underrated post
>>67682299
>fascism is bad.
Top cuck.
>>67682565
Déjame adivinar: votas a Ciudadanos :^)
>>67682098
Didn't win when it mattered
>>67681233
Who Sevilla /lifelong/ here?
>>67681233
Another March 11th
Time to start learning spanish.
>>67682299
Fuck off leftist cuck
>>67682723
t. Bale after 2 years still not knowing any word
>>67682792
It's ok anon, you don't need to try hard to fit in.
give them jobs
we don't
we can't
the only hope is a huge scandal surfacing and destroying La Liga
>>67681233
competent refs
>>67682900
Pretty sure he can speak spanish
>>67683264
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EOAeqX9QzY
negative
Getting rid of bribery
kill Dr. Fuentes
>>67682926
What makes you say that ?
>How do we stop them?
Proper anti-doping tests. But that probably will suspend half of football's elite players.
if spain win euro 2016 i am not watching football anymore
>>67681233
delet aguilucho pls
>>67683524
Still this shit.
More drug test than any other team in Europe because no other team plays as many games.
sevilla will just keep finishing 3rd in their CL group on purpose to win the europa league again. How do we stop them?
>>67683586
spanish league top players are the most tested ones in football considering they tend to go far in all competitions
>>67681233
when you'll decide to play football instead of relying on hoofball and memes
>>67683439
How stupid you have to be? Spanish is not that difficult at all
B I G
>>67683671
particularly as an athlete.
not hard to learn how to say "trabajar duro" and "seguir adelante"
>>67683671
especially considering he's living here
>>67683671
This. I was able to learn 90% of football related terminology by watching Spanish speaking Barcelona streams in the Guardiola era
>>67681233
Ban EPO?
Pay the referee more than them.
>>67681233
by having refs that know the rules
>>67683775
>sevilla
>having money
david silva has been living in England for 6 years and doesn't speak English
some players don't give a fuck. i wouldn't either
>>67681414
t. sahko
lel liga is debt ridden as fuck, most of their teams are literally bankrupt
>>67683873
Armchair economists always tell me that having debt is good though.
>>67683843
maybe he is not fluent but i really doubt that he does not even speak it on a basic level
based Spain
here's a rabbit for oyu
>>67683843
>>67683890
it is good
would you rather get a mortgage and live in 400k debt for 20 years while living in a 3 bedroom house or live in a shit studio apartment and save up money every month for 20 years
>>67683873
the ones really indebted are Barça and Madrid
no one really cares if you're indebted as long as you're a known brand
we had cases of small teams who have disappeared or got relegated for not having money in the last years
>>67683929
that's a big rabbit
>>67683843
Learning English is not that easy for Spaniards.
>>67683749
Post yfw you realized what you knew was catalan.
>>67683873
not really, all clubs carry debt regardless of the league. the issue is how much debt relative to income/assets. Atletico is the only club in serious shit when it comes to their finances.
>>67683890
depends on the debt. $50k in credit card debt? stupid. $200k debt on a house you're building equity in? good.
again, also depends on the rest of your finances.
>>67683976
>the ones really indebted are Barça and Madrid
they have the largest amount of debt, but they also have the strongest finances. Their rations (last I checked) were pretty in check with what would be acceptable.
Atletico is a different story.
>>67684145
that's my point, it doesn't matter if the big guys are indebted
Atletico really payed their debts during the last years IIRC, and only Valencia was sinking in debt until it was bought by Peter Lim
bad thing is that the chinese and the asians millonaires in general have discovered La liga and are now buying it by pieces
>>67683929
>tfw we ate all the spanish giant rabbits in the post-war
>>67684145
Atleti's situation is getting better tho, being in the CL + making nice deals allow their finances to improve, also they're building a new stadium which will benefit them even more
As long as they keep Cholo, they should be fine
Maximum 4 foreign players per club
No foreign managers
Like we have in our basketball and football league
>>67684145
>>67684295
Cerezo's management too is exemplary and really amazing, a combination of good management + good sporting decisions + great coaching
>>67684297
Most non-Spaniards at Real/Barcelona have Spanish passports
Based Dr. Fuentes lending us meme magic from prision.
>>67684329
cerezo and the rest of Atletico management are huge cholo-babbies
>>67684297
that wouldn't change it that much considering our NT performance over the last years
also look at bilbao
>>67684396
A good president is also a president that recognizes a talented managers and gives him the means to succeed
Also Andrea Berta is doing god's job there, he's as good as Monchi if you ask me
Floren could learn a thing or two from Cerezo
>>67684022
footballers shouldnt be an example to take in consideration; see messi
Drug testing would end Spain.
>>67684396
>considering our NT performance
You got raped in the last WC group stage pham
Spain is literally England-tier
>>67684459
like armstrong or your roided as fuck niggers i suposse
>>67684503
>armstrong
kek, literally everyone dopes in cycling
>>67684396
>also look at bilbao
I think he means players from the same country not the same region.
>>67684429
cholo was more like a last resort than anything
Florentino is different
he's not here for anything but creating a brand, collecting fancy players to sell more shirts and use his power to get construction deals all over the world
>>67684459
but they get them constantly in both national and international competitions
>>67684492
still won two euros and one wc consecutively
you can't always win
>>67684520
so americans are so dumb they're the only ones that get caught? Use metric next time and you won't exceed your dose
>>67684522
I know
it was just an example of a team with only spanish players which is still competitive
Is there a more based Península?
>>67684492
>Euro
>World Cup
>Euro
>all while the U-21s were rekting everyone too
>a bad performance due to generational shift in a stacked group
>back to being a lock for the semis at the Euros
how awful!
>>67684529
>still won two euros
wow!!
We still have 12 more continental cups than you and twice as WCs!
>>67684577
>twice as WCs!
None of them won without cheating.
>>67684554
You will never catch me defending Lance. He's a scumbag. Calm down, Pedro.
>>67684602
Name a single NT that has won a 100% legit WC
![imf-logo[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/DmsL0ga.gif "imf-logo[1].gif")
investigate them to death
>>67684577
>copa amemeica
not really comparable to the euros, it's only slightly ahead of the confederations cup
>>67684554
nah, cycling have been broken for decades
nobody would end a single race without cheating
>>67684577
>haven't won anything in 23 years
>implying 1978 is legit
>copa america having the same weight as euro
>>67684577
>12 more continental cups
it's fucking nothing. if you truly believe a copa america carries the same weight as a euro you're fucking mental.
>>67684615
Germany 2014, Spain 2010, Italy 2006
oh my! that's the last 3 without cheating, surely it's an epidemic though.
>>67684638
>>67684640
>>67684660
My bad, I can't compare CA to Euros: Copa América is far better
>he watches San Marino vs the Vatican City instead of watching players like Messi, Neymar, Suárez, Vidal, James
>>67684677
>James
>>67684677
>copa america
>literally a 2 horse race between brasil and argentina
>uruguay and chile won last 2 editions
JUST
>>67684677
>33% of the teams aren't even in concacaf
>hosted every year or two, been like 40 tournaments since it started it's played so often
>upcoming tournament isn't even hosted in SA
>brazil care so little they're not even taking their best player so he can play an U23 tournament
>>67684723
Uruguay has more titles than any other NT you memer
>>67681233
with a simple audit
explain to me again why the USA doesn't broadcast the best league in the world?
>>67684766
conmebol* not concacaf
>>67684766
1. it's conmebol
2-3. we are having 2 in 2 consecutive years because this years' it's the 100th anniversary: it's the oldest international competition in the world. it's hosted in the usa because they paid for it
4. false, that's just the excuse brazilians use when they lose. check last year's squad and it was similar to the last wc's
>>67684784
I thought they had that Geordie commentate it for them
>>67684784
because the competition is lopsided as fuck
>>67684577
>>67684677
even if we indulge your stupidity for a second and assume they're equal in terms of skill, the fact that it's fucking played twice as often makes your claim beyond retarded.
Maybe one of those winning teams would have been able to win the Euro of that year. Maybe.
>>67684811
being sports have the rights to la liga I think and nobody fucking has being spory lol
>>67684297
Now the maximum is 3 foreign per club.
EU citizens can ork anywhere in the EU and foreign players with EU passports too.
> Argelians/other Africans who are French
> Argentinians who are Spanish/Italian
> Brazilians who are Portuguese too
> Southamericans from other countries who are Spanish
If your grandfather was from any european country you can ask for a passport.
>>67684810
>100th anniversary
>sold it to the highest bidder
>>67684813
your only advantage is you speak english
>>67684784
Tebas is absolutely terrible at marketing while american will probably always prefer english football for the sake of cultural sameness
>>67684815
>played twice as often
Even if that was true, we still have 7 times more titles than Spain
Spain has been for decades a shit national team, they just cheated their way to some shitty titles in the last decade
That doesn't make them an elite fooball nation
>>67684843
It's called Copa America, what's wrong with hodling it in America?
>>67684780
>>67684636
n-n-no, please
>>67684784
They do. I watch it every weekend m8.
>>67684864
They have their own gold cup
We have our own Euros
You get cucked by other continents
>>67684864
seriously, copa america is barely more relevant than confederations cup
>>67684864
Llora Argento Chupa medias
>>67684851
And the not lopsided competition
>>67684925
Go back watching Moldova vs Faroe Islands then
>>67684922
It's called Copa America, as in the continent
Mexico, USA and other got kicked because it lowered the level of our competition so it sticked to South American plus the best 2 Northen Americans
Sometimes it's Mexico, others Jamaica, etc
>>67684958
Why don't you have your own continental competition then?
>>67684958
at least post countries who have played the euro
also implying they are worse than jamaica, bolivia or peru
>>67684986
America is a continent
It's the land of mass between the Pacific and the Atlantic
>>67684864
There have been 45 copa Americas played to 14 euros, that's more than 3 times more
Add to that there are more quality teams in the euros, SA was just brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay. Chile and Colombia only got good recently
>>67684995
Bolivia at home can defeat every sinlge European NT
Perú has won the Copa America more times than Chilel
>>67685000
>America is a continent
South America is a continent, North America is a continent.
America isn't a continent, just like Eurasia is not one.
>Eurocucks will unironically defend a barely 50 years old "cup" between countries like Andorra, Liechtenstein and Gibraltar
>>67685049
In Spanish and Portuguese there are 6 continents: America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania and Antarctica
All countries in CONMEBOL speak Spanish or Portuguese
>>67685051
then how comes that the last wc third place couldn't qualiffy?
>>67685068
it is too for the french, italians and basically any other non anglo or cuck country
>>67682130
>this flag
>this topic
>>67685068
Then why are Conmebol and Concacaf separate organisations?
>>67685137
Because concacaf nations decrease the quality of conmebol football
Guyana, French Guiana, Falklands and South Sandwich Islands and Suriname are located in South America but they aren't allowed in CONMEBOL
>>67685167
Just face it, you invite other nations in because there's not enough interest. How else do you explain Japan playing in it?
>>67685201
It was back then when Japan used to be too good for Asia
Same way Australia plays in Asia instead of Oceania
Maybe one day we invite Spain to South American if they keep "dominating"
>>67685223
We wont go to that sihthole negro.
>>67685223
>Maybe one day we invite Spain to South American if they keep "dominating"
you actually did the year that Japan refused but we refused as well because of the calendary
>>67685258
>>67685223
NIGGERS BTFO
>>67685223
But Japan didn't leave the Asian federation, so it's nothing like that is it?
Conmebol just invites teams they know will do nothing. Even Mexico sent a youth team.
Just admit the Euro completely eclipses Copa America and will do this summer
>>67685223
Conmebol has already invited Spain. But we refuse it.
Remember it.
>>67685068
>spic education
>l-let's just ignore the continental fault line separating North and South America!
>>67685167
French guiana is part of France, just like Falklands and Sandwich Islands are part of Britain, not real country with football team.
>>67685223
>>67685280
>>67685297
What a fucking retard this nigger is haha
This fucking flag kek
all they have in life is football
>>67685341
OUIIII
>>67685320
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_official_football_team
Te lo voy a decir en español para no humillarte todavía más delante de todo el mundo.
Ya has hecho el ridículo lo suficiente. Puedes retirarte sudaca.
>>67685341
don't forget cucking France on their own tournaments
>>67685341
also picking up your girls :^)
>>67685368
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_official_football_team
Its a meme team m8, not eligible in FIFA competition, our overseas territories probably have local meme teams too.
>>67685385
Roland Garros and the Tour de France are international sports events.
Of which you have none.
>>67685416
>Tour de France
You mean Tour de Yorkshire
>Euromuslims will unironically say that a competition between "nations" like Northern Ireland, Kosovo and Greenland is better than a competition between Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay
>Eurocucks will say a 50 years competition is better than the oldest NTs competition in the world
>>67685385
>Le Tour de Dope
basically doping contest since the 90's
>Argentina
>>67681233
good refferees
>>67685462
One of these is Catalonian/Spanish and the other Argentine
Guess who
>>67685459
>this delusional
>>67685433
>the oldest NTs competition
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Home_Championship
1884 nigga, back when people in Argentina were still rubbing sticks together to make fire
>>67685433
>he doesn't watch San Marino vs. Luxembourg
>>67685433
But none of those are anywhere near the top 10 nations. We have qualifying to get rid of shit like that.
>>67685341
Mustafa pls
>>67682224
Fag
>>67685491
It's funny becase Argentina had a higher GDP per capita than Australia or Canada back then
>>67685416
>>67685459
still held in France
>>67685479
>catalonia
>spain
>>67685488
How am I delusional? Do you know how many guys have been banned since 2000?
>>67685496
>We have qualifying so our mediocre fowards can stad pad
fixed
>>67685511
He plays for the Spanish U21 NT
>>67685511
>Mallorca
>Spain
>>67685513
good luck with your minister being injured
Ronaldo def doped at Barca
>>67685543
>Mallorca
>Not Spain and Germany
>>67685523
You have Bolivia and Venezuela in your finals, that's embarrassing mate.
>>67685491
>Scotland winning everything
kek
>>67685587
Venezuela is the only bad NT in the whole competition and no one scores more than 3 on them
NTs like Faroe, San Marino and Moldova concede more than 8 goals per match and they have 100% amateur players
Venezuelans suck because football isn't their first sport
>>67685479
Dont fucking lie stupid retard.
Keita: "Senegalese officials spoke to me three weeks ago about playing at the U-23 championship and I feel very privileged and honoured," he told BBC Sport. "I did not rush my decision. I spoke to those close to me and realised that I have a big chance of becoming a great player by playing for Senegal." He added he understood his club's refusal to allow him to play at he Under-23 Nations Cup in Senegal. "It's only a little disappointment but I deeply understand the club's point of view," he explained. "I was born in Spain and I grew up there but I've already made a commitment to play for Senegal and that won't change. "It will be a great honour for my family and my career to wear the Senegal colours." Keita came through the prestigious youth ranks at Barcelona from the age of 10 until 16, when he signed for Lazio in the summer of 2011
>>67685552
what are you talking about
>>67685607
Scotland were really strong in the 19th and early 20th century, still England has the most championships fuck off
>>67684022
>Learning is not that easy for Spaniards
ftfy
>>67685613
>NTs like Faroe, San Marino and Moldova concede more than 8 goals per match and they have 100% amateur players
And they don't play at the Euro, so what's your point?
>>67685613
Call me when you see Faroe San Marino or Moldova qualifying for the Euro.
>>67685628
http://ultimahora.es/deportes/rafa-nadal/2016/04/25/189434/nadal-denuncia-por-difamacion-exministra-francesa-deportes-roselyne-bachelot.html
>>67685657
>>67685658
I meant Iceland isntead of Faroe, same shite
Also, we were talking about the qualies, where your strikers stad pad against amateur national teams, Pele style
>>67685682
You're embarrassing yourself.
Bolivia, Venezuela and Peru are top 10 teams in South America.
San Marino, Gibraltar and Faroe Island are not even top 45 teams in Europe.
>>67685677
Who gives a fuck about a TV attention whore? She isnt minister, neither injured and we were talking about Tour de france retard.
>>67682299
Kill yourself, race traitor trash.
>>67685682
The qualifiers are irrelevant we're talking about the Euro finals vs Copa America, not Euro qualifiers vs Copa America.
>>67685739
Stay mad franchute , call me when you win us at anything
>>67685682
Meh, my strikers don''t stat pad against the teams you named. Since the WC we have played : Spain, Serbia, Portugal, Denmark, Belgium, Albania, Russia, Germany, England, Netherlands.
>>67685800
well, we kick you out of the2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup and we beat you everytime in handball, not bad
>>67685800
Ok, call me when you compete at something that doesn't involve balls fdp
>>67685850
>something that doesn't involve balls
such a thing exist?
>>67685871
>wanting balls in his porn
>>67685871
Don't worry, we will see your performance during Olympic Game 2016, and see if you are so strong in sport.
>>67685839
>handball
kek, also you can't talk about basketball after what happened last year :^)
>>67685850
thats because you dont have right?
>>67685871
Yes, at least try Rugby if you are so addicted to balls.
>>67685912
I remember a story of Argentina joining the 6 nations and being based in Spain. That would have been interesting to say the least
>>67685883
nah, sadly nobody cares about olympics
>>67685912
the lack of roundness triggers us
>>67685000
>the land of mass
sounds like america alright
>>67685933
>the lack of roundness triggers us
kek,
do you play pétanque/petanca in Spain? its comfy during summer.
>>67685711
Bolivia and Peru can defeat every single European NT at home
Try playing at 4000metres over the sea level
>>67686040
yes, although it goes way under the radar and it's mostly seen as a old people sport
>>67681233
This man is the death of Spanish Football
>>67686088
Too bad they're not playing at home during the Copa America.
>>67686152
They've hosted it...
>>67686172
Twice in the last 50 years
>>67684429
>Also Andrea Berta is doing god's job there, he's as good as Monchi if you ask me
monchi is the GOAT director of football
>scout the fuck out of everyone for 20 years
>have to rebuild squad every season, still win five ELs in ten seasons
>turn meme managers like ramos into goats, sell with profit to levy
GOAT
>>67685711
>Bolivia, Venezuela and Peru are top 10 teams in South America.
nigga there are like ten nations in south america
somebody has a link to one of that half english- half spanish commented la liga moment?
shit is hilarious
what a golazo did he score
>>67685111
Wins: 0
>>67684022
English is fucking easy for everyone. If players don't want to learn it or don't give a fuck is their own problem.
>>67684297
Why would you want La liga to be as shit as your national league?
goat doping system tbqhwymf
Once the refs stop giving fouls for every little dive they make upon contact
>>67683439
top lad
>>67684851
>your only advantage is you have superior genetics
ftfy
>>67684995
Im pretty sure all three would BTFO teams like iceland, austria, albania and north ireland
>>67683963
So a gamble in which I can have a nice life or lose everything or steady building up into earning everything I have,
Debt is only good when you absolutely have to get into it. A better car, a better house, a trip around the world, art college degree - these are not good reasons to get one.
>>67683976
For you.
>>67684784
It's on beIN Sports here with based Ray Hudson.
go back in time and have someone else conquer the americas
too many south americans + spanish makes the spanish league too stronk se3npai
>>67682447
Never come back
>>67682645
>Ciudadanos
>Fascist
Dejame adivinar. Votas a Potemos.
>>67682224
>My Spaniard bf
But I thought football was for manly men as it was a manly sport...
Desu tell me it's not so
![ronaldo-2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OKE4KpH.jpg "ronaldo-2[1].jpg")
>>67689631
>I thought football was for manly men
>>67687847
>people actually think like this
oy vey.
Typical rent multiples are 1/15 of the value of the property per year. Give or take.
This literally means rent is about equal to what a monthly mortgage payment would be for a 15y loan.
You can essentially pay that to someone else, or pay that into your own equity.
Typically if rent multipliers are above 15x it makes sense to rent, below it makes sense to buy.
That also means that people like me who aren't scared of debt can take out a 15y mortgage on a house and rent it to you for roughly the mortgage payment and use your money to pay off my mortgage and build my equity.
So thanks I guess.
tl;dr risk aversion isn't a good thing
>>67682224
is he cute?
>>67684677
>watching a 2 team babby league over watching a real league
>james
>not shit
JEJ
Lads, I'm trying to book a hotel room for me and my gf in Barcelona
There are basically 3 types of rooms (standard, business and suites)
Somehow the business rooms are the cheapest.
What exactly is the difference between business rooms and standard ones?
>>67681233
Well catching Fuentes was a start but now because of that the other spanish doping doctors have gone into turtle mode and come up with new ways for their clients to fool the doping tests so it's going to be a lot harder to flush them out now.
>>67696355
business is basically no frills at all, essentially for someone on a business trip who won't be spending much time in the room except to sleep.
also typically more suited to a single person and therefore smaller.
>>67696355
>not asking the hotel
good job, hans, enjoy the city, weather is starting to get hot but still some cloudy days and rain every once in a while
>>67696355
also it depends on the hotel. in Radissons, for example, business would be a step up from standard and include breakfast, slippers, and some other amenities iirc.
would help knowing which hotel or chain, but yea if you want to be sure ask the fucking hotel
also, the business room could legitimately be the better room and also cheaper due to occupancy/fill issues. e.g. 90% of the standard rooms are full, but only 40% of the business rooms are
Leicester and Spurs could do well in the CL next year providing they don't sell any key players. Arsenal are Arsenal so they'll make it to the Ro16 before getting knocked out by Barca. City probably won't do amazingly next season but Pep will improved them over the next few years.
>>67696407
Well, the offered business rooms are definitely for 2 persons
Judging by the pictures they don't look much different from the standard ones, but I'll probably still book the standard ones.
45€ isn't that much of a difference.
>>67696409
We'll be there from June 3 to June 7
We both have been in Barcelona before (and loved it), just not as a couple.
Any good romantic (and maybe not too expensive) restaurants we should check out?
I know good bars and clubs there, but not really restaurants.
>>67685412
It's true, but those actually are in FIFA. One of your Caribbean islands beat us.
>>67696507
Try Martinez, it's at Montjuic, being german I don't think you will find it really expensive. You can see all Barcelona from the mountain while having dinner and food is good and not the typical shit you tourist get. It's a bit snob but I'm sure you'll like it as a romantic plan.
I just go there really late because they have a good alcohol list, so ask for cocktails too.
>S
>W
>L
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNQUeeF6hso&ab_channel=HichamMed
>>67681233
Introduce a handball rule
continue not watching/caring about lol liga
>mfw people bandwagon spain
>mfw i actually have spanish citizenship and I despise them
theres no hope the world is just full of cucks
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
Everyone and their mothers know that Spanish athletes of ANY sport are drugged out of their fucking minds
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