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Kobe > Duncan
Lol...nope. I LOVE Kobe, but you can't put him in the top 5 by position all time for a 2 guard. Duncan however is the best 4 to ever play the game. Can't compare the 2 you dumbfuck.
>>67538061
apologize cuck
Duncan will always be better than Kobe. Anyone who disagrees is a cumguzzler from SoCal. Facts are facts.
>>67538089
>that flag, this topic.....stick to being a a mid level soccer team and not being relevant in any other sport whatsoever
>>67537596
>Kobe went out with 60
>Duncan went out on the bench
>people will say Duncan was better
>>67537596
The "Duncan > Kobe" meme only started after Kobe tore his achillies and everyone magically forgot the first 15 years of his career.
>>67538061
>Duncan is a 4
18+
5 rings/3 FMPVPs > 5 rings/2 FMVPs
2 MVPs > 1 MVP
Rapist
The Greatest Brick Throwing Chucker Of All Time.
>>67539028
But Kobe has more western conference titles and more head to head playoff victories
Duncan is better by every measure
Duncan is the better all time player. That 60 point game from Kobe to end his career on was such a joke. It was basically an exhibition game.
>>67537596
I'm sorry kobe
>>67539198
It's no different from magics ASG, yes, what's your point?
>>67537596
Suck shit, rapist.
>>67539106
>more western conference titles
Irrelevant.
>head to head playoff victories
Most of them thanks to Shaw
>>67538881
>Duncan is a center
>>67539520
And you obviously never watched the vast majority of his career.
>>67539482
>irrelevant
Considering they both played in the west and how shit the East has always been, I don't think so.
>Shaw
>Implying Duncan didn't have a shitload of help throughout his career
No one with a brain believes that Duncan is better than Kobe.
Never was. Not even for one millisecond.
Duncan was great but Kobe was legendary.
I'll spit on Kobe's grave with my dying breath. I'll never for a minute call him better than Duncan. You'll have to beat it out of me, and you probably won't succeed.
Kobe is a Top 20 player all time. Duncan is Top 10. Come at me.
>>67539634
If the East is so shit then why did Kobe fail to turn those Conference titles into more rings?
Oh right, because he shot .380 (.170 from 3) vs the Pistons and .400 vs the Celtics.
Tim Duncan is a top 10 player all-time.
Kobe Bryant is maybe top 20.
>>67539617
is steph curry a shooting guard
>>67539678
>Kobe was legendary.
he was a shitty ball hog that rode the coat tails of gasol and shaq. Look at his career shooting %. It's dogshit
do people shout 'duncan' when throwing things into the trash?
didn't think so
>>67539678
If you consider unclutch chucking as legendary then sure, yeah.
>>67539617
>every analyst ever calls him the best PF of all time
>nah bro, you dont know basketball
>>67539739
And Duncan was part of one of the biggest chokejobs in finals history. Neither is perfect in the finals, but Kobe at least got there more.
>>67539784
On any other team, yes.
>>67539906
That chokejob happened strictly because Duncan was benched for that Ray Allen play
>>67539896
WTF are you talking about Farley? I was replying to the moron that called him a center.
>>67539617
He spent half of his career at PF and half at C but his peak came at PF. He should definitely be considered a PF for purpose of historical comparisons
>>67540054
For fuck's sake...that's what I have been saying from the 2nd post in this thread. Again, he is the best 4 to every play the game.
>>67540115
Subtle trolling or pure retardation, Duncan goes down as a PF.
/thread
>>67539723
duncan is not top 10
>>67540143
Thank you....a 4. God Damn, what is so hard to understand about that.
>>67540146
And he may not be...but when the 1st 4 / PF makes that list, the only name is Duncan that gets penciled in.
Duncan was a cog in the machine. Kobe was the man.
Kobe>Duncan
>>67540005
>There was no OT in game 6
>There was no game 7
lmao duncan choking so hard out there right now holy fuck!!!! this is how he's gonna get remembered while kobe will be remembered scoring 60 in his last. fuck you duncan you nerd faggot!!
>>67540310
No, Shaq was the man.
>>67540314
There wouldn't have been if Pop had kept Duncan in.
And how is Game 7 a choke? The Heat were favoured to win that game.
>>67540381
>being remembered for losing a tough playoff series at the age of 40
>being remembered for chucking on the worst NBA team ever
>>67540449
Nobody knows that for sure.And it's a choke considering how close they were the game before. Just like the Texas Rangers in 2011
>>67539232
That Kobe had one of the worst seasons of all time for a future hall of fame player, leading to the worst record in Lakers history, and that joke of a 60 point game shouldn't make up for that.
>>67538157
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>>67539133
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>>67541481
ITT:mad spuds
stay salty faggots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qawbo3NOmR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPzC-eAQ_Ck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Wb9fSzefk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aXVxcLm2qQ
>>67541481
Stay Salty Tim
>>67541481
have you ever been so salty you called a 60 point game a joke
>>67541881
>straight from the courtroom
My
Sides
>>67541881
Kobe is and always will be a chucker and a loser who was carried by superior talent.
Even Phil said he'd rather have Duncan than Kobe.
>spuds fans right now
Kobr>Duncan
>>67541971
Ahhahahajajajahahahahahahhahahdjjskfkkfkcksja
Spurs fans everyone. Classy in wins, classless in defeats
>>67542053
>classy
m8 I've never tried to be classy, I've always hated the Lakers.
>>67541971
>>67541971
>the mini-admiral
>not a systembabby
also
>citation needed
phil also says he genuinely wants to be in New York for the long term too
don't take everything face value bud
If you can't admit Kobe is the superior baller, you just don't know NBA basketball
>>67541971
anybody with common sense would take duncan over kobe. A big that gets you 20 & 10 and anchors the d is too good to pass up
>>67542079
How about the fact that Duncan has won several playoff series and Finals himself, but has never been to blame for the Spurs losing a series?
Meanwhile Kobe has directly lost the Lakers more than a few series.
>>67542115
>Kobe has directly lost the Lakers more than a few series.
To hell with that. Kobe is directly responsible for the 3 shit years they had in the mid 00s by running Shaw out of town. He didn't just lose series for them, he lost years
>>67541921
It was a joke though. If the Jazz had something to play for they wouldn't have let him get anywhere close to 60.
>>67542115
>22-34
looks like they lost more last time we count
>>67538678
>because they play the same position
>because they're the same age and height
kysmm (kill yourself my man)
>>67542189
they played him tough the entire game.
>let him
top fucking lel. kobe was styling on them.
>>67542154
you are now aware that kobe is responsible for 6 of the worst seasons in lakers history
>>67542293
Same fag
>>67542253
Does anyone have the webm of that ridiculous moving screen on one of Kobe's late shots?
It was a rigged game, All-Star games have more integrity
>>67542253
>they played him tough the entire game
Sure they did.
>>67542314
Randle admitted to it, turn off the proxy Kobe hater
>>67542375
So what if he admitted it? Doesn't make it any less of a rigged game.
>>67542253
The Jazz players and the other Lakers players knew what their roles were for that game. It was a big media event with a bunch of attention that was there than for no other reason than to see Kobe shoot as much as he could. The Jazz held a double digit lead for most of the game and then in the 4th Qtr they backed off to let Kobe have his moment.
>>67542314
yeah they definitely didn't double team him at the end of the game
retard
>>67542440
When Jazz actually started playing defense the refs took over and made sure we get a storybook ending.
>>67542416
It wasn't rigged kek, you think Gordon Hayward wanted to go down as the guy Kobe raped for 60?
>>67542479
>muh refs
great argument
>tfw you now remember when Kobe was going to the Cloppers during the Shaq feud
>>67542115
God, Spuds fans are so delusional. If Kobe ever lost in the first round to a #8 seed, you would never hear the end of it. I don't think anyone even remembers Duncan doing it because for some reason Duncan can do no wrong.
>>67542511
It is when they allow a team to get away with anything on offense.
>>67538061
>Duncan is better because he played a historically weak position
ok kid
If Duncan is so good why did his higher seed Spuds git got by the Memepiss Grizzles?
>>67537596
no
Duncan > Bryant
Only fedoras and faggot say duncan is better than kobe. Its ok though have your shitty moment. No one was even putting ducan in the same breath as kobe before tearing his achilles.
>>67537596
All-time ranks:
Duncan - 2
Kobe - 13
Sorry, kid
>>67547639
You're right, Duncan was already far superior by that time. Only swag fag hype kids ever thought Kobe was better. It's not even a discussion among real basketball people.
It seems like people have forgotten about early-mid 2000's kobe. Although I love duncan and think he's one of the greats, individually kobe's peak was higher than duncan's.
>>67547686
Not even close. Kobe's a stat padder.
Kobe didn't even make the playoffs a couple of those years. Lmao.
Duncan won a 2003 ring literally by himself.
reminder that kobe is literally chris anderson tier
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/ratings.cgi
>>67547716
Birdman, Birdman
>>67547707
idk he 3-peated, made the finals and broke a motherfuckton of records. Sure he had a bunch of personal shit going on and was a pretty big dick, but basketball-wise he was unbelievable. He also lead his team in assists like every year
>>67547761
Also, let me add, the teams they are on are entirely different. Duncan has had extremely well built, well coached, finely tuned machines to play on, and has had tons of success being a great leader/team player and playing the game "the right way". I honestly think its commendable, and as I said, I love duncan and have a lot of respect for the spurs.
Then you look at the lakers where you have Shaq, Kobe and the boys with shaq and kobe making half the team's salary. They were expected to stat pad, they were what the whole team was built around
>>67547655
Fucking dumbass. If Kobe is not in your top 10, you haven't watched basketball.
*teleports behind you and slices you with your own katana*
Heh nothing personal kid
>>67538678
>went out with 60
>doesn't make playoffs
>historically bad season
kobe has been irrelevant for the past 5 years kid. Duncan has made the playoffs each year and won a finals. He also had a historically great season. The better man went out better.
>>67541971
Oh yeah, he did say that, didn't he? But didn't he also call Rodman a 1/1,000,000 athlete and called him a joy to coach? Then again, he did call Kobe volatile as fuck, too.
>>67547639
Are you calling Kareem, Phil, Oscar, Julius, Tomjanovich and Hakeem fedora faggots?
Slow down, man.
>>67548021
>19 points against Kanter
Haha haha haha haha haha haha haha you are joking right? Kobe > Duncan, wise up son
>>67542707
>historically weak position
Center position is for tall players who have zero dribble and no jumpshot. Duncan who has both is now considered weak.
>>67541881
Salty about what? Duncan's clearly had the better career, hence Duncan > Kobe.
>most missed FGs in history
Duncan lost in the playoffs 8 times with HCA. He fucking lost in the first round to an 8 seed.
Kobr > Duncan
>two of the most successful yet fundamentally different players of the past 20 years who spent their entire career with two of the most successful yet fundamentally different franchises of the past 20 years
>Let's compare them!
Literal autism.
Tim has done better than Kobe in MVP voting throughout his career.
Everything else is a team award. The MVP is the only true individual award.
>>67559814
Steve Nash.
Steve. fucking. Nash.
>>67559905
u mad nigga?
Reminder that Duncan has a bronze medal
>>67559814
MVP only goes to the best player on the best team. It is completely team dependent.
>>67538061
Duncan is so shit he called himself a PF so >shaw wouldn't blow him the fuck out in All star and All NBA 1st team voting every single year.
>>67560776
Except for
>2014
>2012
>2008
>2006
>2004
>2002
>2001
Can't be assed checking any further but it regularly goes to a player who wasn't on the best team
>>67560904
>literally half the time it goes to the #1 team
You were so ass hurting to try to prove me wrong that you made my point for me.
>>67560935
>MVP O N L Y goes to the best player on the best team
there's a big difference between only and half of the time.
>>67560972
>being so literally the point goes over your head
liberals everyone.
>>67542253
nah it was a fucking joke.
>>67559792
>le you can't compare meme
I can compare an apple to an orange, but wait according to you I can't because they're not the same fruit. You can compare anything you want, autist.
>i rate duncan
>>67560744
He did robbed those two years though. Even in 2009 he was playing better than LeBrony.
timmay went out like a bitch so fuck him his whole career is trash now
>all these spurdoras who can't recognize Kobe is greater than Duncan
Duncan can't hold a candle to Kobr and you know it, prove me otherwise
>>67537596
lolol, spotted the casual
>>67537596
>implying duncan needed shaq
>>67560746
I like this. I also like that Kobe has more All-Defensive team selections.
>BUT MUH FUNDAMENTALS
>>67564228
you're right, he needed ginobli parker robinson and leonard
>>67564371
And a great coach, and a strike-shortened season. And he never ONCE repeated as champion.
>>67564371
>ginobili in the 2003 play offs
9/4/3 on .380 shooting
>parker in the 2003 play offs
14/3/3 on .400 shooting
>robinson in the 2003 play offs
8/6/1 on .550 shooting
That team was bad.
Kobe is the best
>>67537596
>always needing HOF big men
kek
>>67542236
Take away the showtime era and it's 20-20
>Kobe
Gets carried to rings
>Duncan
Carries others to rings
>>67564549
>conveniently ignoring Shaq being a fourth quarter liability
kek kill yourself casual faggot
