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Might I enquire why the stat 'Playoff Appearances' is shown instead of 'Superbowl Wins', or even just 'Playoff Wins'? Surely those are a more accurate reflector of career success to one with such a long and distinguished career?
>>67491841
playoff chokes 1st
>>67491920
Because he's been to the playoffs the most of any quarterback ever?
>>67491920
Because quite simply those are very bad stats.
Especially if we count one and dones in the playoffs.
I believe he may hold the record for that as well.
>Tom Brady playoff losses: 10
>Peyton Manning playoff losses: 13
>REEEE Peytons a choker, he has the record!
Bradycucks are so pathetic
Congratulations, he rode the coattails and got 3 rings when he was Teddy Bridgewater tier
>>67491983
Holy shit, BTFO
>Volume stat after volume stat
Barely even impressive either, he edged out Favre in a lot of these despite playing most of his career in babby era rules
>>67492204
>anyone could do it, he just played longer
Kek
>regular season stats
>meaning anything
>>67492233
Not anyone could do it, it takes the right combination of skill and luck (Playing in a dumpster division with HoF talent)
The point is that Favre balled out when you could literally kill a man as opposed to being part of the cancerous organization that changed the rules to begin with
>>67492244
Leaf man has a right
Papa John's can keep his records but no man who knows anything about football would ever take him in a playoff game over Montana or Brady
>>67492320
I'd take the Patriots over the Colts but I wouldn't take Brady over Manning
>>67492388
In a playoff game? You're actually retarded
Even when Brady was only "good" early on in his career he was clutch in the playoffs
Peyton would find ways to lose #1 seed after #1 seed
>Inb4 muh meaningless head to head record
why is manning old and ded while brady is in his prime despite manning only being less than 1 year older
>>67492435
Yeah in a playoff game
>muh clutch
Complete bullshit
>>67492443
Severe neck injury that almost ended his career
Also
>Brady
>prime
Stop.
>>67492741
>Muh clutch
Call it "not shitting the bed against inferior teams" then, point remains
he was a good QB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6emhWsSiho
>>67492799
I never said the Patriots or Bellicheck were bad, I'd take them in a heartbeat over the Colts and whichever plug they had coaching.
But I'd take Manning over Brady in all situations
>>67492774
so then its safe to say brady is the better footballer that he is still competing at a high level and manning will be doing papa johns ads full time
It convienently forgets
Playoff losses -1st
Man, that Canadian must be breaking out in hives resisting the urge to spam the thread with his cheatfaggotry
>>67493159
Then why doesn't Brady have those records?
>>67491841
Most interceptions by a rookie - 1st
>>67491929
then surely he would have the most wins right?
This insecure faggot literally makes this thread every day.
/thread
>>67494924
You realize Manning has played like 35-45 more games in his career, right?
You're a fucking idiot.
>>67491841
he is now Grooming Tannehill
nigga is like a sith lord
Using a fucking SportsNation poll to prove a point
TOP FUCKING KEK
Since you care about their viewers' opinions so much, here's this:
>>67498474
>iholding it against manning that mr mccheat wasnt good enough to start from the start
>>67498558
>Kentcucky
>>67491953
>14-13 vs 22-9
>.519 vs .710
>hgh supporters will defend this
>this assblasted Canadian Pats bandwagoner
GOATs chill with GOATs.
>>67498738
>implying it's quantity that matters
If Brady is better why are his fans so insecure all the time?
why does peypey posting make /sp/ so mad?
>>67498801
What would Tom's record be if he had 4 different coaches throughout his career?
>>67498984
>Broncos/Manning stan makes the same variation of this thread every single day for the last 2 weeks and counting
>gets his shit opinion obliterated
>gets mad when thread is derailed with stats, facts and Brady pics get posted
>causing him to make a new thread the next day where it happens all over again
>YET CALLS PATS FANS ""INSECURE""" LMAO
>>67499005
Bradycucks are incredibly insecure and butthurt
>>67498984
Because, deep down, they know that Tom cheated.
>>67499148
>replying to yourself to make it look like people agree with you
TOP KEK
>>67491953
now post playoff wins
and rings
>>67498677
>forgetting that da Burrs have 9 championships
>>67498984
Because Bostonians love playing the victim and pretending that everyone is conspiring against them, despite the fact that all of their teams have had recent success.
Probably a deep-rooted insecurity in being little brother to New York. It's similar to the insecurity in Philadelphia, where they haven't had success and everyone actually does hate them
>>67491983
this chart shows how butthurt the entire country is
>>67491841
>>67491841
LOOK AT ME, I'M PEIGHTON MANNING AND I'M THE BEST STAT PADDER IN THE LEAGUE.
that brady must be so jealous b/c I have 2 superbowl rings and he only has 5. his wife isn't even that hot, knees waaay too sharp
>>67499186
Denial is a nasty stage to be in, where you fail to even acknowledge your problem.
http://psychcentral.com/lib/the-5-stages-of-loss-and-grief/
However, let me know when you reach Anger. I don't want to be around when that happens.
>>67499234
Brady will never beat Peyton under those categories.
>>67499216
>everyone chose Peyton because dey mad
Bradycucks are so pathetic.
>>67499296
then why did they choose manning shitposter?
I think a good indicator why Peyton is better is how Brady fans react to opposition.
I mean Peypey fans are cool as cucumbers. Bradyfags flip their fucking tops and go full REEEEEE NORMIES GET OUT!
Peyton fans use the "let the numbers decide" argument.
Bradyfags go full on smear tactics.
That's how I know Peyton is better. Because Brady fans are so insecure about the whole thing
How's your legacy turn out, Tom?
>>67492204
and he played in a dome while Favre played in Canada practically
>>67499360
Because he's the better quarterback?
>>67499401
less owls, less rings, barely .500 in the playoffs, brady is still playing at a high level, manning hasnt been good in years
how is that better?
>>67498677
Nice cherry picking...
>>67499449
>stat picking
Peyton is 3 wins to 1 vs Brady in AFC Championships games. Therefore, Peyton is better.
>>67499449
More yards, more tds, more wins.
Seems easy to me Bradycuck
>>67492799
>2001 rams
>inferior team
checked tho
>>67491983
This is basically 18-1 but on a sports poll.
If Brady was on a different team under a different coach, would he even make it to the playoffs?
Reminder that Manning has literally never played well in a playoff loss.
>>67499572
Well he took the 31st ranked defense to the Super Bowl, so yes.
>>67499544
yeah he was unstoppable.... against bad teams in the regular season
peyton is like brady and montana if brady and montana sucked in the postseason
I don't even get Bradycuck logic. The dude was a fucking nobody, drafted in the 6th round, only got the starting gig due to injury and was carried to 3 Owls when he was the definition of a game manager.
Peytons been the best player at every single level, from Gatorade High School Player of the Year, Maxwell and O'Brien award winning college QB, then getting the most MVPs in NFL history.
The only argument Bradycucks stammer to come up with is muhh rings which is a fucking pathetic argument to make
>>67499635
back to your cuck shed
>>67491841
Does Tom even have any league records?
League won't be the same without him. You can't really say that about any other current player.
These Patriot tears are top knotch, holy shit.
>>67499635
>Brady's numbers on par with anybody's
>has more rings
Yeah being great in college is a good argument while winning super bowls isn't.
>>67499661
When Brady is done, the next Patriots QB will take over and excel because the system will remain intact.
>the same lame ass rebuttals by Bradyfags in every discussion about the topic
>>67491841
anyone ever notice only ugly losers hate Brady?
>>67499697
Jesus fuck, he was carried to 3 owls. He was a nobody.
Peytons been the best from the time he was 17 years old.
Fuck off you casual faggot
>>67499709
Eh, I don't really see the Patriots making the playoffs this year.
>>67499740
I sure hope so. Brady ending his career in a subpar year will be a fitting one.
>Manning average TD:Int 31.7/14.7
>Brady average TD:int 30.5/10.7
>implying Brady won't have all of those records when he's done
>>67499738
Peyton was carried to his two owls. He had the worst playoff passer rating in 2006 by a super bowl winning super bowl and is the only qb to throw more ints than touchdowns in the playoffs and win the super bowl.
86 / 22 / 27 / 1
JUST
>>67499799
From what I understand he'd need to have 3 more seasons competing at the same level as last year to get them.
That won't happen unless he's like a Kobe tier chucker
>>67499779
Papa John fags will ignore this
>>67499651
>when you dont make the HOF
>>67499779
All that with less offensive weapons. Daily reminder Peycuck crippled the Clots by demanding more help on offense.
>>67499799
http://www.nfl.com/player/peytonmanning/2501863/careerstats
http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/careerstats
LOL no. Not even close.
>>67499818
>5 time MVP, most probowls of all time
>carried
No, carried is being Teddy Bridgwater tier and getting 3 ring
>>67499874
>regular season
Lel
>>67499858
>it's a Patriots fag tries to belittle his team to make Brady look better
How soon until you say the defense was the one that choked in the 18-1 game?
>>67499871
>those 2008 and 2009 MVP seasons
Pathetic
>>67499888
What a fucking terrible response, wanna try again?
>>67499874
>throw 32 tds
>"MVP" season
>voters give him a freebie by naming him Co-MVP even tho based McNair shit on him
>"MVP" season
>>67499935
Manning played like utter shit in the 06 playoffs it's that simple.
One thing I've noticed about Bradycucks is that they can't have a civil discussion, they need to smear Peyton, it's so pathetic.
You never see other fans call Brady shit and stuff but Bradyfags are so insecure their arguments are "choker" and insulting Peyton
>>67499952
Pack it up boys, debate is over.
Name me one season where Brady didn't cheat.
Why don't Bradycucks just hide the thread bros.
Nothing in the OP hinted at Tom Brady or any other player but they come here and whipped their spaghetti across the walls.
Their obsession is so weird
>>67499989
Peyton's choking in the post-season and getting carried is so embarrassing that Peyton stans have to refer to it as "smearing" when it's brought up.
TOP KEK.
>>67500037
insecurity
they actually think they still have a rivalry with a retired player.
>Brady throws 28 TDs and 14 picks
OMG carried to the playoffs
>Manning throws 27 TDs and 12 picks
What a quality MVP season!
>>67500037
Does this happen vice-versa? As in, during a Brady thread, are Manning fags just as defensive?
>>67500024
2000 to 2020 (Brady's last season)
Is you asked current and past players who the better player was they would all say Brady.
>>67500072
No, never. Bradyfanboys are strange.
Hell, I'm a Vikings fan that noticed it.
>>67500083
Yeah, that's why Manning got all those MVPs and was continuosly rated higher in player polls
>>67491953
>>67500093
>>67500072
The first brady post was by a manningfag. But hey you're holier than thou
>>67500037
You've made this same thread for 2 weeks straight, nearly every day.
All you do is call people cucks, bandwagoners and ironically "insecure" when people shit on your garbage opinion with facts, rationale and logic.
And you have the nerve to attack Pats/Brady fans?
Y-I-K-E-S. I genuinely feel sorry for you.
>>67491983
>>67500144
Oh and here's the second Brady post of the thread
Brady's wife or Manning's wife. Who would you fuck?
Note, Brady married a huehue.
>>67500131
Imagine Brady behind the center for the Broncos in the super bowl. Would have been a blow out.
>>67491841
Doesn't matter. You gotta lead your team to the owl and win.
Brady got 4, Manning has 2. Rings trump everything.
I hate Brady, and personally love Manning and his attitude. But Brady is the current GOAT, its just the way it is.
And if Brady gets 5, then just forget it. Saying he isnt the GOAT then would be pure delusion.
>>67500169
Why come in every thread if you aren't butthurt?
>>67500185
Imagine Peytons first 4 seasons being on those Pats teams
>>67500194
I disagree, most would. Polls show that
>>67500194
>Rings trump everything.
>implying Dilfer is better than Marino
Don't go full retard.
>>67500228
What he would have not made the playoffs?
>>67500276
wat
>>67500265
Just let him be. That's all the argument Bradycucks have is 4>2, despite he was Teddy Bridgewater for the first 3
>>67500203
You don't like being confronted with logic and facts, do you?
I came into the first thread I saw because I thought there could be a decent discussion. Turns out you're a psychotic Manning stan in denial who can't debate anything for shit and just overreacts and resorts to ad hominems non-stop.
After that it became obvious how mad you were getting each time your thread got derailed - especially when you'd feel the need to start new ones the next day.
Whenever I see these I know it's the same basement dwelling Manning stan who's making them... so I just troll you with the same shit.
>>67500303
>28 TDs - 14 picks
>Bridgewater
>27 TDs - 12 picks
>33 TDs - 16 picks
>Muh five MVPs
>>67500313
>logic and facts
What's to discuss?
Manning has the most yards, touchdowns, wins, MVPs, etc.
You have 4>2
>>67499880
Replace Brady* with Bradshaw.
>>67500370
>volume stats
>shittiest MVPs in history
>>67500346
Maybe Brady should have had a better year than him in those low stat years.
>>67500303
>1st year starter
>1:30 left in SuperBowl, tied, no timeouts, drives 50 yards w/ shit players on offense to put team in FG position to win
kek @ calling that """"carried"""" or "Teddy Bridgewater" - whatever the fuck that means
>slings 354 yards, 3 TDs in 2nd SuperBowl vs Panthers including another clutch last minute drive + 3rd down conversion
Try again.
>>67499074
>using hypothetical situations to debate stats
>>67499766
Team won't recover from the suspension. Looking like 1-3 best case scenario, then Brady comes back rusty, not to mention a year older. If I was a betting man, which I am, I'd stay way clear of putting on them.
>>67500408
No dude it's all about playing more seasons that the other guy and padding your stats in the regular season. Being good under pressure doesn't mean shit, it's all about getting those precious tds in games that you already won with a top tier defense.
>>67500408
He threw one touchdown in the entire playoffs for his first ring. Christ..
>>67500393
>those don't count, honest!
>>67500456
>those super bowls don't count, honest!
>>67500450
Holy shit, the butthurt on you. I can taste it.
>>67500485
Good reply man! You're right manning is better!
>>67500423
>implying the hypothetical won't be fact
If his MVPs were so shitty why didn't Brady beat him?
>>67500477
An MVP season is much more indicative of a good QB than riding coattails and throwing one TD all postseason
Daily reminder Peyton and Brady has virtually the same post season passer rating.
Also daily reminder that since the NFL post season format is single game elimination, every game is equally important.
Also daily reminder that the only argument Patriots bandwagoners have against this is claiming Peyton (the guy whose team wasn't punished for cheating on two different instances) "padded" stats in garbage time, which is just downright embarrassing damage control.
>Bradyfags argue about Tom's stats and the Patriots are notorious for running up the score
>they get butthurt about Peytons records and call it statpadding
They have zero self awareness
>>67500564
>"padded" stats in garbage time
Ironically, Brady fags would be rubbing in those same record stats, if Brady happened to be the one in possession of them.
>>67500564
Daily reminder that Brady has a higher passer rating in both the postseason AND the regular season.
>>67500584
I doubt any of them have traveled outside of New England.
>>67500607
Shit, remember their 18-1 season when Belichick would keep Tom in just to pad stats against shit team, even though they'd be up by like 40?
KEK.
>>67500646
I remember the argument then too.
"If you don't want the Patriots to run up the score, then defend against them".
>>67500625
Daily reminder Brady has had Bellicheat for literally his entire career while Manning has taken four different head coaches to the super bowl, none of them any good. This alone ends the conversation.
Manning>Brady
>>67500652
Holy shit is this real? Jesus Christ I don't care for either team but god damn, seriously? Is this really true? How do people think manning is good again?
>>67500533
Brady's career numbers are on par with Manning's. Just because be lucked into 3 MVPs because the media loves him doesn't change that at all. Brady's numbers pretty much every year since 07 beat three of Manning's MVP years.
>>67500625
Passer rating is a good measure of 'efficiency' i.e. not turning the ball over. It's not a good indicator of responsibility of the offense
>>67500679
Because he owns every single major quarterback record
>>67500652
The best quarterback ever threw a total of 4 touchdowns in his 4 Super Bowl appearances. I can't even say it with a straight face.
>>67500682
>lucked into 3 MVPs
>>67500679
KEK.
I was wrong. He actually threw 3 - not 4. LMAO.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannPe00/super-bowl/
^ Check it out.
>Manning throws 3 TDs and 7 picks in the playoffs
>wins 15-6 with five field goals
>other quarterbacks were carried
>>67500682
That's just false.
Also >lucked into MVPs and >the media loves him
Why the fuck didn't Brady have a better season than him?
>>67500725
>>67499779
>that's just false
Are you seriously arguing that Manning is better because be threw 27 fucking TDs while Brady had a busted knee?
The pic I posted earlier is wrong, Manning actually has just 3 TDs in 4 SuperBowl games - not 4.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Here's the correct version:
>1-3 against Peyton in the AFC Championship games
>0-2 against Peytons younger brother in the Superbowl
I bet the name Manning sends shivers down Bradys spine
>>67500754
Lol I can't even begin to imagine this fat crusty Tennessee basement dwellers saying the words "the best quarterback to ever play the game threw 3 touchdowns in 4 Super Bowl apperances." It's just too much. Holy SHIT!
>>67500747
>those MVPs were total bullshit. Any QB could have done it
>Well, why didn't Brady?
>....
>Bradyfags
>>67500766
You realize if Manning hadn't choked so many times (record 9 one & dones) he would've met Brady in the next round of the playoffs, right? Brady was there waiting for him several times.
It's funny how Manning stans will dismiss all other playoff stats/facts and act like they don't matter - but then bring up ones like that.
>>67500766
If these daily threads are any indication, there's definitely loathing among the entire Patriots fanbase over the Mannings. For players that have never been division rivals, or even been on the field at the same time, it's something to behold as a neutral observer.
>>67491983
>the entire US except for specifically the New England region accepts that Peyton is better
>>67500791
>>67500791
Brady has put up better numbers several times. You have to be literally retarded if you aren't trolling.
>>67500814
He met him 4 times and won 3 of those matchups
>>67500836
And I'm sure he was rightfully awarded MVP over Manning in those years unless say Adrian Peterson won it
>>67500847
And one of which, Peyton was down by 3 TDs.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Is the upset Canadian Sean?
>>67500924
>manning
>good
>>67500786
top kek.
Isn't it hilarious? They try so hard to make it a debate. It's cute.
The only legitimate debate about the GOAT QB is between these two:
>>67501007
Which one lost fewer Superb Owls?
>>67501020
better to lose in the playoffs amirite
>>67501020
>losing in the playoffs is better than losing the super bowl
I put Montana at #1 and this is literally the worst argument you could make for him.
How can one fanbase be so insecure?
>>67501020
Brady lost 2 SuperBowls by 3 and 4 points respectively. Defenses gave up last minute TDs.
Manning lost 2 SuperBowls by a combined 49 points. Manning kindly scored 16 of them for the other team: 2 pick-6s, 1 safety. Including a last minute pick-6 to clinch the game for the Saints. How nice of him.
>ignoring the fact that the AFC East is a cupcake division
>>67498858
GOATs doing GOAT things. Part 2.
>>67498858
Why is Rex Grossman there?
>>67501086
And that 2000s AFC South was a real beast, right?
>>67501087
>Manning never won a unanimous MVP
>he's better than Brady
>>67499727
Then clearly you hate Brady.
>>67501067
Holy shit, they finally did it. Bradycucks blaming the defense for 18-1
>the average points given up that year was 21
>Pats defense gave up 17
>the Pats offense broke every record that year
>score 14
>"the defense choked"
Kill yourself you pathetic fucking piece of shit
>>67501126
He was one vote shy, the one vote came from a Bradycuck. Kind of pathetic really.
>>67501154
Bradydicksuckers BTFO
>>67501169
>Brady unanimous MVPs: 1
>Manning: 0
He couldn't do it.
>>67501086
>AFC South
>>67501178
Probably because Bradycucks actually exist and are salty about Manning.
Manning fans are just football fans and will give the nod to whoever played the best football.
The one vote short just shows the insecurity of Pats fans
>>67501215
>>67501215
>he couldn't do it
>j-just jealous
>>67501197
>>67501104
>AFC East
Oh yea... nice parity there
>>67501234
>break every QB record that season
>get 49 of 50 votes for MVP, the one vote is from a butthurt Bradycuck
>this is somehow a legitimate argument from Bradycucks rather than just proving their pathetic obsession and saltiness
Sorry.
>>67501254
>yeah the MVP is important
>well I mean unless it goes against my Manning argument
>>67499380
Nail on the head
These are the kind of people you're dealing with
>>67501274
Sorry dude, your whole unanimous MVP argument became bullshit after Peyton didn't win it 3 years ago because of Brady butthurt.
It just proves your fanbases pathetic obsession.
>>67501291
>really, those Manning MVPs are super important
>he definitely deserves them all but winning unanimously doesn't matter
>>67501319
>yes these voters are infallible and those 5 MVPs are so impressive
>>67501319
brees, rivers, warner, and rodgers all won less than 10 games you dope
>>67501378
>get outplayed
>but have a better team so you win
God that argument sounds familiar
>>67501391
jesus cry me a river bradys a decent qb but he'd never survive without bellichick's qb friendly system
manning is the only qb to ever carry two separate franchises to super bowl wins, therefore he is goat
>>67501404
>carry two separate franchises to super bowl wins
HAHAHAHAHA
>>67501416
last time i checked qb is the most important position and he was the qb for the 2006 colts and 2015 broncos
>>67501426
So... 4>2?
>>67501436
but peyton won with two different head coaches and two different franchises
brady has only won with one head coach and one franchise so no one knows if he can actually win outside new england
2>1
>>67501449
That is some retard logic right there
>>67501449
>meme: the argument
>>67501532
>>67501546
samefag
>>67491841
>>67501436
Every fucking time.
>>67500303
>>67501449
However, we do know that New England can win without Brady. Too bad Cassel didn't win the Superb Owl that year.
>>67501669
Because Cassel put up garbage numbers and won 6 less games with literally the same offense Brady set records in
>>67502382
http://www.nfl.com/player/mattcassel/2506562/careerstats
That 2008 season had Brady tier numbers.
>>67503308
>21 TDs with prime Moss and welker
>Brady numbers
>>67501657
You're pathetic fucking argument is about super bowls. You're going to say Brady was carried to his Super bowls while simultaneously saying that Manning's championships mean anything? He has two of the worst super bowl runs in NFL history. You guys are literally retarded.
Manning vs Brady in the playoffs favors Manning 3 games to 2.
When will Bradycucks believe?
>>67506786
So Nadal is better than Federer because of muh head to head matchup?
You're using a 5 game sample size too
>>67492435
Manning has a very similar rating to Brady in the playoffs (87.4 to Brady's 88, and Manning's rating was higher before this SB run)
People forget Brady gets a lot of help from the defense to help him have that final drive, or that Seattle's whole secondary was injured and he threw multiple picks in the Super Bowl.
Brady and Manning are pretty much equals, but Brady has had more help overall (Belichick + better defense on average >>> Harrison, James, Wayne and Clark) so he has more rings and a better W%. Manning has the records because he has more weapons than Brady and more games.
>>67507186
Well, does the regular season matter?
Just scroll up. I just happen to notice faggots downplaying Manning's regular season statpadding.
>>67507692
Brady statpads more often than Manning
Manning has been benched in 3 of his MVP seasons, while Brady scored 2 TDs (49 and 50, for Manning's record) while his team was 15-0.
Fuck off
>>67510320
>Brady statpads more often than Manning
Yet, his stats are still shittier. Therefore, Manning > Brady
>Has 27 neck surgeries
>has best season ever
>Make a huge deal about random HGH testing before superbowl
>gets rekt
