2× NBA champion (2012, 2013)
2× NBA Finals MVP (2012, 2013)
4× NBA Most Valuable Player (2009, 2010, 2012, 2013)
12× NBA All-Star (2005–2016)
2× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2006, 2008)
9× All-NBA First Team (2006, 2008–2015)
2× All-NBA Second Team (2005, 2007)
5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2009–2013)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2014)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2004)
NBA scoring champion (2008)
Cleveland Cavaliers all-time leading scorer
AP Athlete of the Year (2013)
USA Basketball Male Athlete of the Year (2012)
Naismith Prep Player of the Year (2003)
McDonald's All-American Game MVP (2003)
3× Ohio Mr. Basketball (2001–2003)
Lets see Stephanie "Uncle Tom Chucker" Curry accomplish all this.
U mad
>>67490527
Why would I be mad?
LeBron is not only better than you as a basketball player, but he makes more money, has more awards, and people are willing to die for him unlike your favorite player.
He has a lifetime contract with Nike. After the Cavs beat the Warriors in the finals, Stephen "fluke" Curry will be forgotten.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gacs1elIFA
Colin Cowherd thinks LeBron should've won MVP
Inb4 autists start spamming >2-4
None of that matters when
>2-4
exists.
>>67490515
Why are you comparing a SF to a PG?
>>67490623
>>67490609
>samefag
And getting to 6 finals is impressive.
Let's see Curry the leader of his own team and taking them to the playoffs. He was hot shit before 2013 and even I was a more valuable NBA player than Curry
>>67490559
Why would anyone want to die for LeBron
>>67490647
>And getting to 6 finals is impressive.
>leastern conference
It's really not, 2007 was the only time when just getting there was an achievement for him.
>>67490591
The Warriors would've won about 50 games without Curry imo, about 20-25 games less
Probably the same drop for the Cavs, but maybe a little bit less imo, about 15-20 games less for the Cavs, so they probably would've went .500. Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving would've been allowed to step up and fill some of the whole that LeBron usually fills
>>67490647
>And getting to 6 finals is impressive.
Leastern conference. Let's see him come out West and try to make it to even the WCF.
>>67490647
Curry was very good his entire career, he never had a bad season desu
>>67490676
>>67490755
Let's see Curry sweep the Hawks and Pistons, much better teams than the Blazers and Rockets
The Pistons and Hawks would be OKC tier in the West
>>67490755
if he has 2 championships, i imagine he can make it to the WCF you fucking retard
>>67490770
Nice b8
>>67490793
Don't let their delusions fool you
This year the Eastern Conference was MUCH MUCH stronger than the Western Conference
>>67490844
Then why did it have a losing record vs the West?
>>67490864
Yeah because what the Nets and Sixers and Knicks do are representative of the conference
>>67490895
>teams in the Eastern Conference aren't representative of the Easter Conference
that's some next level mental gymnastics
>>67490922
8 seed in the West: 41-41
8 seed in the East: 44-38
5 seed in the East: 48-34
5 seed in the West: 44-38
LOL.
>>67490770
>>67490793
I'll never understand brain dead Lebeta apologists.
>>67490961
Explain that to Colin Cowherd, again another authority who knows more about sports than you do
How about Oscar Robertson?
How about Tracy McGrady?
How about Scottie Pippen?
How about Charles Barkley?
Eat a dick, Canadian fuck
>>67490956
The Cavs would be #3 seed in the West. They'd be facing the 67 win Spurs in the 2nd round instead of the 48 win Cawks.
>>67490988
Except the Cavs would have a MUCH better record playing shit like the Blazers and Wolves and Rockets all the time
>>67490690
nigga.... cavs were a sumpster fire without lebron
>>67491010
The West is overall stronger as evidenced by their winning record against the East
How could anyone hate LeGoat?
>>67491010
But the Cavs wouldn't have had as good a record as the Warriors or Spurs. So they would still be the 3rd seed and face the Spurs in the second round.
LeBron's teams on average during his career: 53.3 wins
Curry's team on average during his career: 47.2 wins
Yeah, tell me how Curry is better again?
>>67491033
>only player to ever quit an NBA game because of an air conditioner
>no (0) rings without Dwayne Wade to carry him
>flopper
>drama queen
>crys to refs
>shitty teammate
>>67490690
you do realize that up until cleveland happened for him kevin love spent his entire career winning 30 games in minnesota with ricky rubio
when lebron left cleveland with the exact same team the next season won like 15 games and lost something stupid like 27 straight at some point
he's obviously not as good now as he was back then but if he left them now they would have barely been a 7 or 8 seed
>>67491079
he shot bal gud
>The Pistons and Hawks would be OKC tier in the West
Lebron has a hideous family
>>67490844
Jesus Christ you're retarded.
>>67490647
>6 finals is impressive
Even your boy lelbron disagrees with you. Everyone knows the real finals are the WCFs and it's been that way for a good while.
>>67491142
You forgot
>flashes his dick on camera during agame
>>67491231
>his children
>his
um...
>>67490515
Please take a moment to admire the great LeBron for the special talent he is. It never gets old looking at the King's history. So many accomplishments Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan will never achieve:
1. Only player in NBA history to quit because of a broken air conditioner.
2. Quit on his team the year after he promised them a championship.
3. Get dunked on by a high school kid then confiscate the tape.
4. Bail on the dunk contest 10 times.
5. Only able to win a ring with 2 superstars.
6. Only won his second ring because Ray Allen bailed him out.
7. Play on same team as his mom's boyfriend.
8. Average 1.8 pts in the 4th quarter of NBA Finals.
9. Lose not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 times in the Finals.
10. Host a national televised TV show to leave his team.
11. Go 2 for 18 in an NBA playoff game.
12. Get stuffed by a player under 6 feet. (Nate Robinson)
13. Only make the finals by playing in weaker Eastern Conference.
14. Choke 4 out of 5 finals games by dropping FG% by 18.
15. Only player to show his dick on camera in the Finals and lose.
>>67491012
I mean, they won 33 games the year before Love and LeBron arrived and I said they'd win about 37-42 games without LeBron this year. With Kyrie and Love I don't think that's a stretch
>>67491145
Yeah, I do realize that, he was on a shit team.
Also, The Cavs wouldn't have even made the playoffs without LeBron, I think they would've missed the cut by at least a couple of games, but it's possible they could've just gotten the 8th seed
Some of these comments are pathetic. Lebron could be a top 10 of all time. He deserves crap for leaving to Miami to win championships and also not being very clutch. Other than that he's one of the best players ever. Calling Curry a fluke is fucking retarded too. Just stfu and enjoy the game or don't watch its that simple. Hating on players that are regarded as the best in the world just makes you look bitter or retarded.
>he doesn't have a unianmous MVP
Jej
>>67491142
still the best player in the league.
>>67491142
>memefeld pics from 2013
Leddit is but a stones throw away lad
If any of you could start a team in the NBA now majority would start it with Lebron
>>67494292
I'd choose curry because I'm not a fag
>2-4
>2
>-
>4
>TWO
>AND
>FOUR
>2-4
>advanced stats
>>67494357
Id choose your mother
>>67490515
>2× NBA champion (2012, 2013)
>2× NBA Finals MVP (2012, 2013)
Not for your team.
>>67490515
NBA champion: 2015
2× NBA Most Valuable Player: 2015, 2016
3× NBA All-Star: 2014, 2015, 2016
All-NBA First Team: 2015
All-NBA Second Team: 2014
NBA scoring leader: 2016[a]
4× NBA three-point field goals leader: 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
3× NBA free-throw percentage leader: 2011, 2015, 2016
NBA steals leader: 2016
NBA Skills Challenge champion: 2011
NBA regular season record for made three-pointers (402)
NBA record for most consecutive games with a made three-pointer (152)
NBA record for most three-pointers made in a game (12 – tied with Kobe Bryant and Donyell Marshall)
NBA record for most points scored in an overtime period (17)
Warriors franchise leader in three-point field goals made
Warriors franchise record for most three-pointers made in a game
>>67490515
He doesn't need to Larry bird haven't accomplished some of that and the out of shape white guy with a broken back is still considered better
>>67491574
You forgot shoot less than 70 % from the free throw line in a finals series
Shoot more times than you have points, shoot 20% from three and miss all your free throws in the same playoff game
>>67495195
>can't win Finals MVP
>>67490515
Might as well start this shit up again.
Micheal Jordan
Two-time Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame
class of 2009 – individual
class of 2010 – as a member of the "Dream Team"
U.S. Olympic Hall of Fame – class of 2009 (as a member of the "Dream Team")
FIBA Hall of Fame – class of 2015
Two-time Olympic Gold Medal winner – 1984, 1992
Six-time NBA champion
Six-time NBA Finals MVP
Five-time NBA MVP
10-time NBA scoring leader (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
14-time NBA All-Star
Three-time NBA All-Star Game MVP
11-time All-NBA
Nine-time All-Defensive First Team
Two-time NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion – 1987, 1988
NBA Rookie of the Year – 1984–85
NBA Defensive Player of the Year – 1987–88
1985 IBM Award winner
NCAA national championship – University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill: 1981–82
ACC Freshman of the Year – 1981–82
Two-time Consensus NCAA All-American First Team – 1982–83, 1983–84
ACC Men's Basketball Player of the Year – 1983–84
USBWA College Player of the Year – 1983–84
Naismith College Player of the Year – 1983–84
John R. Wooden Award – 1983–84
Adolph Rupp Trophy – 1983–84
"Triple Crown" winner
Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year – 1991
Named one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History in 1996
Ranked No.1 by SLAM Magazine's Top 50 Players of All-Time Ranked No.1 by ESPN SportsCentury's Top North American Athletes of the 20th century
North Carolina Sports Hall of Fame
1997 Marca Leyenda winner
Seven-time ESPY Award winner (in various categories)
Number 23 retired by the Chicago Bulls
Number 23 retired by the North Carolina Tar Heels
Number 23 retired by the Miami Heat
Statue in front of the United Center
>2-4
>Two wins, 4 losses
>carried by wade
>played shit teams prior to the finals
>2-4
>advanced stats
2-4
Cavs beat the Thunder both times in the regular season, beat the Clippers both times, and tied the Spurs. Only team they lost twice to in the west were the Warriors. After Blazers everyone in the west is shit. Here it is explained http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2016/04/nbas_western_conference_tops_e.html
>>67499707
>played shit teams prior to the finals
>carried by Thompson, Green, Iggy
>>67499643
People need to stop comparing Lebron to MJ. The closest player to MJ is Kobe and he wasn't on MJ's level. Is Lebron better than Kobe? That is the debatable question.
>>67499707
Carried by BASED GOD RAY ALLEN*
Fixed.
>>67490515
> 2 out of 5 in NBA Finals
>>67499793
How did their games against the warriors go?
>>67490515
literally GOAT, salties need not reply
>>67494292
>>67494357
Curry is my favorite player. But if KD isn't your first choice to start an nba team you're a fucking idiot.
The Warriors are repeating this year and LeBeta will go to Boston to retire.
Cap it.
He could only win a title with a fake team he created with the other best players in the league.
If he doesn't win any with Cleveland he'll go down as a monumental disappointment.
>>67500128
2 out of 6
How can he be an Uncle Tom if he's not black?
>>67500310
That's retarded
A pg who can rain threes and pass well and run the point is more important than than a superstar forward in today's NBA
>>67500249
One game against the Warriors caused the Cavs to fire their coach.
>>67490515
>2-4
>>67494114
>he can't spell unanimous
>>67490515
>Dos y cuatro
>>67500922
You didn't answer my question
>>67490559
Kek nice b8 m8. Anyone who hates curry does so because they want their a cuck for another Hall of famer
>>67490515
Almost everything is from 3 years ago
>>67494292
Lebeta is on the wrong side of 30 and has lost some of his athleticism already. He still doesn't have a consistent jump shot either. I'd probably take Anthony Davis over anybody else right now.
Bump shot.
>>67501439
I'm so saving this pic.
>>67490844
Absolutely not. This year, the Eastern Conference certainly improved and a couple teams (see: Pelicans and Rockets) went to shit in the West. But the conferences are still night and day when it comes down to it, if anything because the west has 4 of the 5 best teams in the league. The Clippers were a very dangerous club this season all the way up until CP3 got hurt and people forget them already.
>>67503317
The playoffs are total shite, kang.
>>67504240
5>2
>>67504355
huh? they both have 2 FMVPS. surely you wouldn't count a title that someone else was the MVP for, only a desperate, pathetic know-nothing would do such a thing. unless you also think Pipper > Kobe because 6>5??
>individual awards
>relevant
kek
KEK
K E K
>>67504376
2 titles as the best player on the team + 3 titles as the 2nd best player on the team >>>>>>>>> 2 titles as the best player on the team + 0 other titles
>>67504258
>>still arguing that the west is better overall
>West has a winning record over the East
>4 out of top 5 teams in the league are in the West
>still arguing that least is even comparable
>>67504258
>West had 4 serious title contenders (when healthy)
>East had 1
>>67504391
LeBron will get at least one for the land making it 3 FMVPs which is >>>>>> 2 + any amount of titles while getting carried by someone higher up in the GOAT rankings
>>67504425
Come back when he does then. I'm not going to discuss hypotheticals.
>>67490647
>coming out the east
>2 years Rose was Injured
>one year KG was hurt for Boston
>Atlanta was the best team in the east 1 year
The east is insanely weak, let's all be honest about this. Who exactly has Lebron have to go through to make it to the finals? Injuries teams and a bunch of mediocre overachieving teams. There is a reason he is 2-4 in the finals (a Allen 3 from being 1-5) because the west is simply stronger.
>Couldn't win without going to Miami
>Still win only two titles
>Get BTFO in his two Miami losses
>>67501439
2 of those teams were the Hawks last year, and the Bulls minus D rose.....just sayian.
>John wall is the best player in the east once LeBron leaves
Feels bad man 1
>>67505103
Someone explain why the Ray Allen 3 is always brought up for LeBron but Kobe being bailed out by teammates is always ignored. 3 titles basically hinged on his teammates following up his crunchtime misses.
Horry's 3 after Kobe misses in game 4, Lakers would have been down 3-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYQDsZljAOY
Gasol saving Kobe's ass in Game 6 against the Thunder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orsbX3HrUmE
Artest saving Kobe's ass after another game winning miss in game 5 against the Suns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4seP2wD_K4
>>67505232
Everyone brings up that game the Kings got screwed by the refs. They should have won that series.
LeBeta will be 2-5.
Lets assume LeBeta make it to the final for the next 5 years(lets be real, the leastern conf is shit, none of the team next 5years can challenge them) and get cuck at the final each time by curry, his legacy would be relegated to being a curry fuckboi.
>>67505397
Yeah but the Kobe miss is an afterthought, same with the other misses. Yet for some reason he's still considered "clutch" despite shooting a horrible %. Is that just cause Kobe was likable and had a game similar to Jordan so people selectively remember the makes?
I'm not even a Kobe hater and think he's top 10 all-time but it's just baffling that there's this false narrative of him being clutch
lebron should be thanking ray allen every day for the rest of his life or he'd only have 1 finals win in 6 trips
![tumblr_inline_n1c25lzmhL1r5ytyd[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ugyqecx.jpg "tumblr_inline_n1c25lzmhL1r5ytyd[1].jpg")
>>67505512
>Kobe was likable
>be a massive dick to everyone
>rape someone
>people call you likable
>>67505232
Everyone knows Kobrick is an overrated ballhogging chucking faggot.
>>67505653
yea the general public is generally retarded. that's what happens when you play for the Lakers and copy Jordan's every move. Best decision he ever made was forcing his way to LA.
>>67505512
>kobe
>likeable
you're just not old enough to remember him absolutely dominating the league
>>67505759
>absolutely dominating the league
underage detected. Kobe was never even the clear cut best player in the league
>>67494292
I'd take Durant or Davis
OR honestly maybe KAT
>>67505808
err, do you not remember shaq and kobe from like 1999-2004? They rain train on the league. and even in 2000, it was kobe's clutch performances that lead them to the ship, and eventually a 3 peat. I think kobe himself was better in 2005-2006 (81 fucking points in a game), but they didnt win so its kinda hard to say.
And to say it was all shaq would be stupid, kobe lead his team in assists and set up basically every shaq slam
>>67490623
Soon to be
>2-5
>>67495195
dont forget best player in nba 2k history
>>67494292
>taking ANY player over 30 to start a franchise
I think you might have a future in the Brooklyn Nets front office.
>>67495195
hah, I remember earlier on the season I said curry was gonna end up leading the league in steals and people here just told me I was dumb and that he doesnt into defense
wew kobe
>>67499562
girl on the right is definitely better than a 3, probably a fair 6-7. Even the girl on the right would bump up to a 5 if she didnt smile and wore corrective lenses to fix her lazy eye
>>67490515
He's not even a top 10 player in the NBA right now, let alone of all time
>Cleveland lelbron fanboi fuckbois actually believe he is better than Steph Curry because #reasons
>>67506309
well, historically ya he is better, and has had a better career, but that's mostly because he's played longer. Its reasons like this that's why comparing established superstars to up and comers is buttfuck retarded.
Like, would you say duncan is bad because he's starting to show his age and play less minutes? no, he's still a superstar/legend even if there are a lot of players in the league currently better than he is. its all about consistency/longevity
>>67506298
1. Curry
2. Westbrook
3. Durant
4. Harden
5. Draymond
6. Lebron
7. KAT
8. Milsap
9. CP3
10. Wall
This is for the current season only
>>67490647
Going to six finals don't mean shit if you don't win.
>>67506427
Ya it does, it means you were better than everyone else but 1 team, there's tons of players who dont even make the playoffs. And he has won. twice
you're fucking dumb
>>67506539
>it means you were better than everyone else but 1 team
Getting to the finals from the East doesn't mean you're a top 2 team. It means you're better than anyone in the East, so it's literally fucking nothing.
>>67490632
This. Fuck off OP
>>67506564
but he wont it twice... which means his team was better than everyone those 2 years. And to say "its literally fucking nothing" when you're talking about the best basketball players in the world is so unbelievably stupid, you should feel embarassed. The absolute worst team of all time (maybe this or last years 76ers), would still beat the best team in any league lower than the NBA.
The fact that he won a single ring alone, by itself, makes him better than like 95% of the people to play the game at a professional level, and he has 2 of them. You guys are basically saying that not getting to the finals (ie, losing earlier on), is better than losing in the finals. Which is retarded, and again, you should feel embarassed
>>67506377
>Still rating James - ultimate lockerroom cancer - zero (zero) defense - flop like a little bitch - Harden. Im not even mad im just really disappointed.
>>67506624
>lebron is good because he's better at basketball than non professional players
you're literally retarded
>>67506539
>>67506624
>hurrdurr shit players never even make playoffs, so Lebron is the best
Fucking moron you are m8. Lebron is an upper echelon player who's expected to win because of his talent. Great players are judged by that metric, and Lebron falls short because he's lost more than he's won.
>2-4
in this case the meme represents the player.
>>67506664
>>67506667
Im gonna venture to guess that neither of you have ever played sports before outside of gym class? And even then you were probably the weird kid who "forgot" his gym clothes every day so he could sit on the bleachers and play his gameboy.
Would you think lebron was better if he made only 2 finals and won both of them? If the answer is yes, you're a retard
>>67506809
>Would you think lebron was better if he made only 2 finals and won both of them? If the answer is yes, you're a retard
No, not getting out of the East with those Heat/Cavs teams would be a failure on a gigantic scale. It doesn't change the fact that winning the East with those teams means absolutely nothing.
Lebron is literally a playground bully who picks all the big strong kids, goes around beating up the smaller kids but gets shafted almost every time he has to face someone his own size.
>>67506809
If you make the finals 6 times and go 2-4, then you're obviously missing something the other great players that have more than 2 rings do have.
And to answer that stupid question of yours, no. But we don't live in imaginary land, you fucking leaf.
>>67490515
2-4(?) is the only thing he will be remembered for famalam
>>67506969
That and crying over an air conditioner
>>67507201
And averaging 1.5 points in the 4th quarters of a Finals series
And losing in the Finals by a record point differential
>>67507223
That's being a little nitpicky m8. Not a lot of people are gonna know or care about that.
But holy shit that's bad.
>>67504376
This
>>67506624
>he won a single ring alone
>>67491142
Didn't he literally shit his pants as well?
Please take a moment to admire the great LeBron for the special talent he is. It never gets old looking at the King's history. So many accomplishments Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan will never achieve:
1. Only player in NBA history to quit because of a broken air conditioner.
2. Quit on his team the year after he promised them a championship.
3. Get dunked on by a high school kid then confiscate the tape.
4. Bail on the dunk contest 10 times.
5. Only able to win a ring with 2 superstars.
6. Only won his second ring because Ray Allen bailed him out.
7. Play on same team as his mom's boyfriend.
8. Average 1.8 pts in the 4th quarter of NBA Finals.
9. Lose not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 times in the Finals.
10. Host a national televised TV show to leave his team.
11. Go 2 for 18 in an NBA playoff game.
12. Get stuffed by a player under 6 feet. (Nate Robinson)
13. Only make the finals by playing in weaker Eastern Conference.
14. Choke 4 out of 5 finals games by dropping FG% by 18.
15. Only player to show his dick on camera in the Finals and lose.
>>67505808
Consider this: Steph Curry has more MVP awards then Kobe.
>>67504391
>3 titles as the 2nd best player on the team
In 2000, shaw was the indisputable best player on the team.
In 2001 and 2002, it was more like 1a. and 1b.
>>67514914
>In 2001 and 2002, it was more like 1a. and 1b.
It really wasn't
>2001 playoffs
Shaq - 30/15/3 on .555 shooting
Kobe - 29/7/6 on .469 shooting
>2002 playoffs
Shaq - 29/13/3 on .529 shooting
Kobe - 27/6/4 on .434 shooting
>>67515203
a center is not a guard. Kobe's numbers, for a guard, were fucking amazing. The fact that Kobe was such a significant threat from outside and mid-range is a major reason for why Shaq was able to dominate the paint so effectively.
Not the person you're quoting, btw.
>>67516860
I'm not saying Kobe was bad or that he was carried but it wasn't a 1a/1b situation. Shaq was easily better and 2001 was the only time when it was close.
>Not the person you're quoting, btw.
I didn't suppose that guy crossed the border in the last hour.
>>67494292
If it's Lebron in his prime, it's not even a contest. You could surround him with literal D-league garbage and he would take them to the finals.
>>67517424
>You could surround him with literal D-league garbage and he would take them to the finals.
Then why didn't he go to the Finals in 08, 09 or 10?
>>67517538
Because his supporting cast those years weren't even good enough for D-league.
>>67517692
>literally lying on the internet to make your favourite player look better
The majority of the players with most minutes played on those Cavs teams had decent NBA careers before or after Lebron.
Ilgauskas, Varejao, Mo Williams, Drew Gooden, Szczerbiak, Danny Green, Antawn Jamison etc were all serviceable NBA players. Fuck off with your "not good enough for D-league" bullshit.
>>67514187
>this kid is a division 1 basketball player and is friends with Steph Curry
how is this fair
>>67518990
>2011
>>67519083
wot
