http://www.strawpoll.me/10055370
>anybody other than Liverpoo
pls
>>67121152
Your poll is shit. There are lots of reasons why it happened.
>>67121241
Who could possibly be this mysterious other culprit? The Sun? Margaret Thatcher? Chelsea fans?
>>67121241
*steps over you*
>>67121152
> The butchers of Heysel come to your town
> The hoard descends upon your locals en masse
Any sensible police commander would have reinforced the fencing as they started to breach it.
Underaged Middle class Southern Tory cunts BTFO today. Feels good la'.
>>67121297
I'm working class from leeds you twat
>>67121295
Any competent police commander would have risk assessed various scenarios leading to a potentially fatal crush. Any honourable police commander would have resigned the day after rather than smearing the fans he failed so badly.
>"why are people still talking about the Hillsborough disaster 27 years on nobody cares
>several threads on /sp/ every time it's in the news
>>67121327
Im winning class from frog island wot ov it ye feckin bedwettah
>>67121295
>The last briefing the police received was to keep the two sets of fans separated, due to the hooligan reputation of some of the support
>when police first saw Liverpool fans attempting to climb the fence, they assumed they were trying to assault to Forest fans
>people literally died due to Scouser's scummy previous form
>>67121386
Mashallah brother omar
>official inquest finds the fans guilty
>EY LA THATS BOLLOCKS JFT96
>second inquest tells the fans what they want to hear and shove named people under the bus
>justice has been dealt la! JFT96
>tfw being on /sp/ has desensitised you to the death of 96 innocent people
>>67121410
>scouse
>innocent
>>67121327
Then why are you buying the Tory narrative?
>>67121345
That's like saying a soldier who shoots a suicide bomber before he activates his device should resign.
>>67121375
It's hard for plastics to understand, but let me explain. When there's a football match people go to the place on television where the football match is filmed to watch it. Because there's a lot of people there it needs to be organised properly so you the people you see on your screen can be safe.
When a serving senior police officer has failed to do that and hidden his mistakes for decades we can't learn from what went wrong so safety can be improved. I know this is just academic for you streaming matches at home but people's lives are potentially on the line here.
tl;dr Proper football fans are not to keen on appearing in a #rekt thread anytime soon if they can help it so we should punish people who horribly fuck up their responsibilities.
>>67121408
Duckenfield and the South Yorkshire police admitted to having lied on the first inquest/report. Literally hundreds of false statements recorded, all supported by the conservative party.
>>67121448
Scousers are scum
>>67121448
>agreeing with scummy scousers
>ever
Worst of the worst
>>67121408
This.
Just endless do-overs until they get the result they want.
Next they'll want the cabinet minutes at the time as they undoubtedly believe that Thatcher ordered the police commander to implement a final solution to the scouse problem.
>>67121484
They may be that but they are not responsible for Hillsborough, as has been shown today.
>Kill Juventus fans
>Kill their own fans
>Kill innocent Greek man in Athens
>Kill their own Premier League dreams by slipping
Is there a worse club or people than Liverpool?
Can anyone tell me why the newspaper The Sun had anything to do with the squashing
>>67121497
But the first inquest consisted of lies and false statements, as Duckenfield and the South Yorkshire police have admitted
: )
>>67121480
I don't disagree with you mate I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of /sp/ claiming not to want to hear about illsbreh all the time
>>67121497
Yep.
Always the victims. It's NEVER their fault.
>>67121505
>responsible due to a vote of 7-2
Ask those 2 jurors what they think. Not exactly clear cut
>tfw yanited mad dad buys the sun everyday because of its rep with Liverpool fans
kek
>>67121520
Nothing particularly but they prevented justice from being served for 27 years by fueling the "working class people are evil" narrative
>>67121520
For not only covering up the police involvement, but blaming the fans too. Pic related
>>67121554
It's a majority and a legally binding one.
>after 27 years of constant complaining
>they have finally found a group of 10 people who agree with their delusional views about who was to blame
JUSTICE LAAA!
Can you imagine if the jury blamed the scousers? Would that be the end of it? Would that put it to bed? Would it fuck.
There would be another 27 years of this tedious shit.
Liverpool = Self-pity city
>>67121584
Nobody gives a shit. We all know the truth. Just look at the poll results.
>>67121539
In this case it literally wasn't their fault, and there is nothing you can say to disprove that : )
Also your mum loves scouse cock
>>67121558
He sure sounds like a fine role model.
Why won't the Liverpool fans at least accept SOME of the responsibility?
>>67121589
Well, given that it's been shown today that the Liverpool fans are not guilty, I imagine they would kick off the jury had incorrectly found otherwise yes
I hate Scousers
But I hate Maggie "I hope there's a hell so that bitch can go there" Thatcher, the festering cancerous growth that her toadies represented, and Rupert Murdoch's tabloid propaganda rag that sucked her mutant clit for decades
>JTF96
>YNWA
>Ferry Cross The Mersey
>FuckTheCorpseOfMaggieThatcher
>KelvinMackenzieCanEatABagOfDicks
>TheSunIsLiterallyCancer
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=240892.6920
>>67121297
The joke's on you.
I didn't die by being crushed to death by drunk scousers without tickets and my rotting corpse wasn't looted or pissed on by the same people.
>>67121620
96 wasn't enough :^)
Why do people think this is relevant to Football or Liverpool?
The issue is police corruption and media smear campaigns. This could have happened in Norwich, Glasgow, Cornwall, Dublin, Paris...
>>67121559
>working class
>scousers
>working
>any class
>>67121629
Why would they? The myth about them being ticketless has been disproved. The myth about them abusing dead bodies has been disproved. What has been shown is that the police deliberately herded them into a single pen when there were others adjacent to it which were almost empty.
There is no crime you can correctly accuse them of.
>>67121629
because
IT'S NEVER THEIR FAULT
IT'S NEVER THEIR FAULT
ALWAYS THE VICTIMS
IT'S NEVER THEIR FAULT
i fucking despise united fans but they got it spot on with that one
>>67121629
Because they have no morals. They dispute heysel and even if there was concrete proof they'd still say that it was "southern" Liverpool fans (like they'd fucking know)
I await the next event Liverpool fans choose to do to themselves and see who they blame then
>>67121589
Boris, pls go.
>>67121665
All of these have been disproved friend : )
>>67121689
Are you high?
It's relevant to Liverpool because it's the perfect example of how awful those people are.
>Don't want to pay for a ticket
>Steal the game for free
>Use violence and aggression to gain access to the stadium
>Kill their own fans JUST so they could watch the game for free
>Cry and complain about MUH JUSTICE even though they were 70% to blame
Fuck off. In any other City the people would rightly shut the fuck up about it because they knew that it was their fault and it's embarrassing.
But not Liverpool, those sub-humans cry and complain and campaign for three decades.
Pathetic. Cringeworthy.
96 people died, due to negligence by the police, and for the past three decades have had to fight an establishment desperate to cover it's back.
Yet the are some posters on here,whose only understanding of the world is through meme's. Who are sheltered from grief and injustice, and who'll try to maintain that comfort zone through mental gymnastics and vitriol.
THE SUN WAS RIGHT
YOU'RE MURDERERS
THE SUN WAS RIGHT
YOU'RE MURDERERS
I blame the primitive stadium fences
and the fans barging in without a ticket
In other words it was an accident
All the police blaming is excessive
>>67121748
I can't believe the police forced all of those Liverpool fans to turn up to the game without tickets
How many of you criticising this verdict sat for two years being presented with evidence and cross examination?
>>67121614
>uninformed opinions
>fact
4chan in a nutshell
>>67121748
>mental gymnastics
Love it when people use this as a way to describe logic, rationale, and common sense.
"Yeah, okay you're objectively correct but what about MUH FEELINGS and MUH EMOTIONS?"
You're the literal equivalent of feminists.
Reminder that liberalism is a mental illness.
Honestly memes aside, the fault was mostly Sheffield Wednesday's.There had been incidents on the same stand in previous years. There was only one set of turnstiles, and just one way into the pens.
However partly because Liverplop keeps banging on about this, I'm also inclined to believe they're trying to cover up the actions of the fans who tried to see the game for free.
>>67121664
ahahahahaha
NO other group of fans do this. What is it about Liverpool fans that make them so cringey?
![I130917_114757_310699oTextCS_47678011[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Cs1hzli.jpg "I130917_114757_310699oTextCS_47678011[1].jpg")
>you are now aware that this bitch, fresh from her appearances in Lee Healey's Viz strips, will continue her idiotic crusade against safe standing because of ILLSBREH being "solved right"
Fucking Margaret Aspinall.
im happy for the scousers that they actually have a decent manager when the verdict came out and not the cringeworthy rodgers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4372230.stm
>Merseyside Police told the community on Monday to "stop grieving, it's only a chicken".
Reminder that 22% of the Jury members said that it was Liverpool fans to blame.
And yes, that's the OFFICIAL outcome as so many of you are so eager to post.
I'd say Liverpool fans are more than just 22% to blame though, wouldn't you?
>>67121824
AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Sums it up
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAA
Can we move on now?
>>67121810
>backs that it was the polices fault
>campaigns for safe standing
>>67121854
Boris was right.
>>67121869
Yes we can. But I'll still be calling Liverpool fans murderers for the rest of my life
>>67121810
She wants to believe that the 96 didn't die in vain.
They died in vain.
>>67121869
lmao yeah I'm sure liverpool fans will stop bringing it up every day, starting now.
>>96
>>67121484
Really all that needs to be said. They're literally like the BLM movement scum here. DINDU NUFFIN
>>67121742
Ok but that scinario exists in your head not the real world.
The truth is the rest of england is filled with soft tory cunts that wouldn't stand by their community and fight for them. That's what's really pathetic.
>>67121824
>scouse foetuses are so fucked up from drinking alcohol during pregnancies that the women confuse a chicken foetus for a human one
>>67121898
>standing with scousers
Not until they own up for heysel
>>67121870
wut
every time safe standing has come up, she's there whining about MUH 96
>>67121898
There's no community in England worth fighting for
For the past 25 years it's been every man for himself
>england will never have the collective nationalism and hard work as Japan
>>67121152
>try to get in for a free game to save a couple quick bucks
>End up trampling 96 fans
>OHMYGODTHEHORROR POLICE SHOULD'VE DONE BETTER LA IT WAS THE ENGINEERS FAULT FOR ASSUMING LIVERPOOL FANS WEREN'T ABSOLUTE RETARDS
I can't help but feel happy for Margaret Aspinall. The relief and pride on her face is brilliant
This is the average 96 family member
>>67121898
No that "truth" exists in YOUR head and not in the real world.
>>67121974
la it wasn't their fawlt it was those murderin bobbies
>>67121959
lmfao
excellent summation
the only "justice" required is banning liverpool FC from football forever
>murder 39 italians
>murder their own fans
>support racists
>support thugs
>>67121297
Kek this, the evidence is there if they care to educate themselves rather than spout memes that have been utterly BTFO and disproven in a court of law.
Don't put yourself down to their sad level
>>67121974
Thank fuck those cunts died. Wish it had been more. I really do.
I'd take 200+ but ideally there would have been some sort of stadium collapse and they'd all have been killed.
>>67122004
>Trying to pretend like you care about the 39 people who died in Heysel
>Don't even know it wasn't 39 Italians
Yeah, take your faux outrage to the daily mail comments section you weird virgin
>>67122006
>muh c-c-court of law
>l-l-legally binding la!!
>22% of the Jury blamed Liverpool fans
>>67122026
>liverpool fans are this racist
>All this mad
Reminder, pic related is the kind of people making these posts. They have serious issues in their own lives, and it's better to just feel sorry for them rather than engage
>>67121898
>muh tories
>muh miners
>muh JFT96
I fucking hate northerners
Literally the most eternally bootyblasted faggots on the planet
>>67122026
>Juventus supporters
Gee I wonder what nationality they were.
>>67122049
You don't know how English law works kid, grow up.
Also it was a unanimous Jury decision that the fans didn't play a part. The 7-2 was on Unlawful Killing.
At least look at basic facts before making a show of yourself
>>67121748
...Anonymous
04/26/16(Tue)18:17:55 No.67121968
I can't believe the police were actually crushing people and making people crush others.
Absolute madmen.
>>67122073
32 Italians, 4 Belgians, 2 French and 1 Irish.
You didn't know the basic facts, so don't act like you even cared other than childish point scoring
>>67122090
>Also it was a unanimous Jury decision that the fans didn't play a part
Absolute bollocks. No such claim was officially made. Nice try at making stuff up.
22% of the Jury decided that it wasn't the police's fault, which means that the only party left to blame was the drunk, ticketless, thug scum Liverpool fans that broke down the gates and murdered their own fans
>>67122073
You do realise you could google it in seconds rather than making yourself look thick?
>>67122106
And how does 32 or 39 change the point he was making? Feels like you're grasping at straws here m8
>>67122118
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/26/hillsborough-inquests-jury-says-96-victims-were-unlawfully-killed
>On Tuesday, the jury rejected those police claims, ruling unanimously that the fans did not contribute to the dangerous situation at Hillsborough that day.
Now shut the fuck up you thick twat
>>67122106
>32 instead of 39
>Somehow disrupts my argument in any way
Nope. I win. How did you know their nationalities? Did you check their driving licenses as you were stealing their wallets?
Scouse scum.
>>67122106
You're very desperate.
>>67121266
The jews
>>67122124
How does that change anything?
39 Italians 32 Italians, what difference does it make, retard?
>>67122136
ABLs rekt
>>67122136
>22%
You're the thick one. You have absolutely no idea about how the legal system works.
>>67122162
The guy said
>Gee I wonder what nationality they were.
They're not 39 Italians, and anybody who cries "WAAH WHERE'S JUSTICE FOR THE 39 ITALIANS" is somebody who doesn't care about the 39 people who died, they just want to try and turn it into a shitty point scoring contest
it is kind of baffling to me that fans are absolved of any wrongdoing despite all facts. Was this just a circus to make liverpool fans shut up, maybe like how you rattle a keychain to shut a crying baby up?
>>67122106
>>67122124
>The City of murders
"You killed 39 Italians"
>NO WE DIDN'T LAA
>"Yes you did"
>NO WE DIDN'T LA IT WAS FOKIN 32 ITALIANS
96 was not enough
>>67122182
You've made yourself look an idiot mate, the jury literally unanimously ruled that Liverpool fans didn' contribute to the dangerous situation. It was question #7 for the jury:
>ruling unanimously that the fans did not contribute to the dangerous situation at Hillsborough that day.
>wasting your whole life seeking "justice"
>finally get what you want
>they have nothing to live for anymore
>>67122193
The jury made their decisions based off 2 years of evidence in court, they know more about the facts than you.
Take your tinfoil hat back to /x/
>>67122188
And of the 96 who died at Hillsborough 10 were neutrals.
So why do you mention the 96 when it's actually 86?
See how retarded you are yet?
>>67122193
The jury would have been lynched if they didn't give the verdict they did.
There has never been any kind of debate in the country, media outlets havn't been allowed to criticise the Liverpool fans at all since the Sun newspaper thing
It would be career suicide to even suggest that Liverpool fans take some blame
>>67122216
>22% of the Jury decided that the killings were not due to the Police
>Therefore the killings were due to some other party
>I wonder what that might be....
Pro-tip: It's ticketless murdering scouse vermin.
>>67122243
I never claimed the 96 people were a specific nationality or supporter of any team in a single post
>>67122262
I'll post it one last time, if it doesn't sink in by then there's no helping you:
>ruling unanimously that the fans did not contribute to the dangerous situation at Hillsborough that day.
The Jury UNANIMOUSLY ruled that the fans DID NOT CONTRIBUTE to the dangerous situation.
Now i'm off the chippy, enjoy your night la x
>>67122240
And even after 2 years of ""evidence*"" rammed down their throats, 22% of the Jury still said the cause of their death was not the police.
*Scouse tears and MUH FEELS
Honestly, I'll keep shitposting, mostly because I can't stand how this has allowed Liverpool fans to completely wash their hands of Heysel. Maybe it's different abroad or maybe it's because of the language barrier, but you hear plenty about Hillsborough over here and you have to actually dig to hear anything about Heysel.
Also, I love the notion that literally every other investigation was corrupted by politics trying to make the poor Liverpudlians look bad, but this process could never, ever be susceptible to similar biases.
Also, this is an anonymous Moroccan cave paintings Yahoo group, so I have no reason to be a reasonable person.
>>67122188
>Scouser literally interpreting the discussion as a point scoring contest
Not everyone is as scummy as you
>>67122240
open your fucking eyes cunt
>>67122299
That happened before I was born.
Or should I claim every Swede enjoys sucking Somalian cock, just because you do?
Was it the Freemasons?
To anybody who wants to learn about what happened, Adrian Durham gives a 10 minute speech on it earlier today:
https://twitter.com/talksportdrive/status/725000254827974661
He gets mad about the retards who try to absolve the police
>>67122320
There actually was evidence given about Masonic handshakes and meetings, but the jury were asked to ignore it because it couldn't be proven
I'm just glad we can put it behind us lads
>There are only 113 people on /sp/
makes sense tbhfam. I bet 80% of the posts come from only 29 of them
>>67122320
it was the Queen, the Thatcher, the Yanks and Oasis
>>67121784
I don't understand this meme. They have done it in the past but is there any proof for hillsborough that poo fans came in without tickets?
>>67122291
>you hear plenty about Hillsborough over here and you have to actually dig to hear anything about Heysel
It's the same everywhere because of two things:
1. The EPLel is the most popular (read: marketed) league in the world and so anything birthed by English supporters will get a lot of attention in media all over the world
2. Juve fans haven't started a decade-spanning moral crusade even though they have more of a case than the scousers
Do you think we'd have to deal with nearly 30 years of >muh 96 if this happened to Brighton or Bristol Rovers or something?
>>67122320
Potentially:
>Maxwell Groome, a constable at the time, said that after the disaster at the FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest at Sheffield Wednesday’s football ground, “the word” inside the force was that freemason officers held a meeting to blame superintendent Roger Marshall.
>Groome said he heard that the meeting took place in portable cabins at South Yorkshire police’s area office, and was attended by Chief superintendent David Duckenfield, who had commanded the match.
>Questioned by Michael Mansfield QC, representing 75 families whose relatives were killed at Hillsborough, Groome said he believed Duckenfield was “a grandmaster of a particularly influential lodge” – the Dore lodge in Sheffield.
>Groome said a colleague, PC Brookes – whose first name was not given in court – called the inquiry team at West Midlands police to complain it was “a masonic conspiracy”.
>Asked why in earlier accounts about the events of the day he did not include the rumoured meeting of freemason officers, Groome replied: “Basically, I’d have been committing professional suicide.”
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/17/hillsborough-disaster-police-masonic-conspiracy
It'd be impossible to prove though
>>67122351
>>67122351
>To anybody who wants to learn about what happened from the perspective of a completely biased media shill
Fixed that for you. Nobody is going to come out and disagree with the verdict you mong. It would be career suicide.
Use some fucking common sense, Jesus Christ.
All we're going to get in the media is Liverpool cock-sucking for the next month or so.
>>67122106
Oh boy 32 instead of 39, you sure got him.
>>67122316
Is this the famous English banter I've heard so much about? Half your capital is brown la
>>67122418
>Implying anybody cares about Londonistan
DINDU NUFFIN
DINDU NUFFIN
DINDU NUFFIN
DINDU NUFFIN
>>67122378
Yes, literally every report and account mentions it.
Of course, that's not relevant to the investigation at all. Because it's the Police's fault for not stopping them from committing this crime.... isn't it?
>>67122413
>THE MEDIA ARE AGAINST US!!
>THE COURTS ARE AGAINST US!!
>ITS A CONSPIRACY
Oh how the tide has turned.
Take your tinfoil hat off mate
>>67122067
underrated post
>>67122459
>literally every report and account mentions it.
Give me one bruh.
hot as fuck desu
So lads, quick question: Did pool fans ever get any sort of flak for Heysel?
>>67122493
He's wrong, every official estimate says even with the people bunking in it was below the capacity.
The problem is the police funnelling everybody into the crowded central pen rather than the side ones which were empty
>>67122462
>Using intelligence to deduce that some statements are not to be read at face value especially when they cause public unrest
vs
>IT WERE NOT OUR FANS LA! JUSTICE FOR OUR INNOCENT FANS WHO WERE MURDERED BY THE POLICE!!! HEYSEL WAS CHELSEA FANS LA, I SWEAR IT! THEY DRESSED UP AS SCOUSERS AND BOUGHT TICKETS FOR DOUBLE THE PRICE AND BOOKED HOTELS AND FLIGHTS TO BELGIUM JUST TO FRAME US!!! FOOKIN CONSPRIACY LA. OUR FANS ARE GOOD THEY NEVER GO TO GAMES WITHOUT TICKETS I SWEAR LA. SUAREZ WAS INNOCENT OF CALLING A PLAYER A NIGGER 100 TIMES ON CAMERA IT WAS SKY MANIPULATION AND CULTURAL DIFFERENCES LA.
Hhmmm.. I'm not sure about you, but I can see a big difference.
>>67122243
Its funny because plenty of Liverpool fans think all of the 96 dead supported the club.
Don't mind me just posting this copy pasta proving without contest that ABLism is literally now confirmed to be a mental illness and it has roots in hillsbrough and the media and state-led brainwashing that ensued.
Southerners - if you ever think you are too clever to be systematically culturally brainwashed into vilifying an entire county of England then please take a look at this thread and the LITERAL HATRED of Liverpudlians on the day that it is PROVEN WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that within hours of the disaster, the state-led cover up was already in motion, police were being paid to fabricate stories about 'hooligan' Liverpudlians, MP's were writing vitriolic hate messages to the families of the victims, and the 27 years -twenty seven fucking years- of lying to everybody in the country and smearing the image of an entire city.
Remember all of the "bin dipping", "dole rat", "scum" comments you see on /sp/ and realise that the brainwashing of the country succeeded, and is still fiercely prevalent amongst the lowest common denominators of the intelligence spectrum.
I never post unironically on this board but I can't stand you fucking dumb twats and feel honestly as though we should genetically socially engineer your personality out of the country within a generation.
Liverpool fans were the victims in the Hysel, you scum
>>67122536
>even with the people bunking in
>people bunking in
>bunking in
So you admit Liverpool fans went in without tickets?
Thanks for proving me 100% right. My work here is done.
It's a mockery of the law desu. Police are meant to have immunity from this sort of shit.
it's pretty easy to disprove the "muh ticketless fans" shit, as was done in high court.
Police fucked up and opened the gate to the central pen rather than opening the side.
Sheff wed fucked up by not having a valid safety certificate.
The ambulance service fucked up by imposing the 3:15 cut off time, when some fans didn't die until over an hour later
>>67122536
That image means nothing. It just tells me the capacity and not the over flow of people.
>>67122572
People bunked in at every game for every club in the 1980s, every single report has stated ticketless fans was not the cause. It was putting 3 pens worth of fans into 1 pen
>>67122556
>ITS A VAST ANTI-LIVERPOOL CONSPIRACY!
Good thing the brave Kopites were able to thwart the Thatcher's evil plans...
>>67122524
not enough, the filthy scouse chimps
>>67122592
>>67122611
why did these fans run into the pen like sheep instead of stopping?
why did the fans at the back not move away after they saw people being crushed?
>>67122592
The police advised Liverpool fans to go to those side pens, but the ticketless thugs refused and charged into the middle section behind the goal because it had the best view of the ground.
If you actually went to football you'd understand.
The drunken thugs pushed in and crushed their own supporters. The police (outnumbered) couldn't stop them even though they tried their best.
>>67122615
You sound like you're being facetious but you are saying the literal objective truth - as discovered today.
>>67122650
The pens at Hillsborough have a ramp going up, people couldn't see people were getting crushed at the front until after they entered and walked up
>>67122556
yeah but heysel
>>67122611
>People bunked in at every game
So just to clarify, you fully admit that you believe Liverpool fans went into that game without tickets? For free. Without paying. Illegally?
Just confirm it. A simple yes will suffice.
>>67122651
You're unfortunately living in a fantasy world that doesn't match up to the facts, I really can't help you, but I sincerely hope you overcome the issues you are facing
>>67122661
You are a parody of yourself.
>Liverpool fans
>>67121795
Tell us what facts you're using you bellend.
Will they finally shut up about it now?
>>67122611
To me it seems like a double whamy. The police are the worse side of the fence here (no pun). But to say the ticket-less fans did nothing wrong is untrue. Only because it was casual to happen in the 80s it doesn't make it right.
>>67122733
>>67122661
I'm not sure who is trolling who anymore and I love it.
>>67122696
I'm just going on all the evidence I've read.
Which b.t.w. is pretty extensive.
>>67122739
Nope. Were going to have another minute silence this weekend and every year after boys.
>>67122752
I'm convinced that the 'Liverpool fans' ITT are just falseflagging to make real Liverpool fans look bad and clueless.
Because there's no way that they can be stupid enough to think that they are totally blameless.
>>67122746
Don't you understand? Everything is a result of circumstance. Unless you vote for the wrong party, read the wrong newspapers or are from the wrong part of the country, you're a poor victim of forces so far beyond your control you're practically a puppet.
>>67122739
ahahahahahahahaha good joke bruh 100// ｡ﾟ(TヮT)ﾟ｡
I'm pretty much sure God just hates LFC and all its Fans
>>67122746
I'm glad you're actually making points rather than mindlessly shitposting like others.
see the picture here: >>67122592
You can see the huge gaps in the side pens, these are the pens the police should have put people in. Instead they opened the main gate to the central pen, so people just walked into it not realising what was happening at the front.
There's no proof of the entire stand being "overcrowded" (estimates have it lower than max capacity), it's the central pen being overloaded by incompetent policing
>>67122746
This.
"BUT EVERYONE DID IT" is not a fucking excuse.
"Yeah sure officer, I ran over that lady while drunk, but come on everyone does it now and then"
Pathetic.
Scousers need to accept some blame.
>>67122682
Yes. Just like fans of every team at the time.
Or is it okay when they do it? lmao
if the police had rubber-bullet the asses of invading scousers they'd be crying about oppression under the hands of Margaret dictatorship.
>>67122826
See
>>67122817
Liverpool fans were at the least 50% to blame for the murder of 96 people. They contributed heavily to killing their own fans.
And this is from a Liverpool fan.
The Liverpool end was at capacity and there were still an estimated 3000 outside pushing to get in.
The exact same incident nearly happened with Spurs at Hillsborough 8 years earlier:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-28095597
>A Tottenham Hotspur fan who witnessed "enormous crushing" at Hillsborough stadium in 1981 has said "the same mistake" was made in 1989.
The police fucked up, the police changed over 160 statements to cover it up, the police fed lies to the media to try and spread the blame. These are facts
Tory plastic babby cunts new meme.
> muh 22%
>>67122848
No, his analogy is fucking retarded.
fans going in without a ticket made ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE and everything would have been fine if the police did their job properly
>>67122851
but how could that be I heard from liverpool supporters that the idea of people without tickets trying to push in was a mere myth.
>celebrating the unlawful deaths of 96 people with songs
Liverpudlians are disgusting
>>67122848
> And this is from a Liverpool fan
This has changed my opinion completely.
>>67122848
>to killing their own fans
>their
>this is from a Liverpool fan
Nice attempt at a false flag
Whoever said the police is a cuck
>>67122854
tbf shouldn't it really be Sheffield Wednesday's fault?
I say this completely unironically: This could've happened to any fans. It's really a tragic accident. However, if this happened to Oxford City fans, it's a footnote to pretty much everyone outside of England.
>>67122880
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-459708/Ticket-stealing-Liverpool-fans-branded-worst-Europe-UEFA.html
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/may/25/championsleague.liverpool
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/jun/04/newsstory.sport13
Its not like they have never done this before
I'll never forget the Champions League semi-final against Chelsea when Lampard scored the day after his mum had died. The whole match the liverpool fans were singing about digging her up and raping her.
Words can't begin to describe how disgusting and abhorrent they all are.
>>67122943
Impossible, even a jury said it isn't their fault, la
>>67122909
>>67122889
I meant the guy I was quoting literally admitted it. Who is clearly a Liverpool fan.
"This is from" the "this" meaning the content I was quoting.
>>67123015
Did you literally just now make up that story? I googled it and nothing came up. It's as though you made it up on the spot.
>>67122877
Yeah, it's all fun and games... until 96 people get killed.
Fuck off.
There was a class war going on at the time. This event took place at the height of a very divisive Thatcher government. These people had the means and the maliciousness to deliberately paint Liverpool as the bad guys when the reality was always that the police were to blame.
>>67122935
Sheff Wed didn't have a valid safety certificate, and had previous problems with crushes so yeah they share some blame
GET OVER IT ALREADY FFS
Fucking scousers are bigger whiners than Jews
>>67122943
But 7 out of 9 Jury members said it wasn't their fault!!!!!
How can this be?
Does Fergie control the media? Is it his fault?
>>67123075
We finally can now, the police involved in the cover up gonna get criminal charges. Suck dick Bettison and Duckenfield
>>67123064
Agreed, it is the police's fault that the fans have no self control.
>>67123064
Yeah because PCs and paramedics are the epitome of bourgeois, right
>>67123099
literally nothing will happen
and liverpool fans will continued to be called murdering scouse scum for the rest of their miserable, premier leagueless existence
>>67123131
Not that guy but the upper echelon are, and they're at fault, not the low level workers.
In the 70s/80s the top levels of the police were close with the government. Not really the case anymore though
>>67123075
exactly. All that Passover shit was nauseating. Christians are pretty bad for that too. So Jesus died like a couple of thousands years ago. Move on with your damn lives.
>>67123099
I just saw on BBC News that they are blaming paramedics now
>>67123064
you are aware that the police are 99.9% working class and would have been 100% against thatcher's government, right?
IT WAS CHELSEA LA
>>67123160
yeah fuck Gene Hunt and all his cronies.
>>67123051
I was at the game you stupid prick I know what I heard. United sang the same the following season, fucking scum the lot of them
>>67123174
>would have been 100% against thatcher's government
lolwut, try telling that to any mining community in the country
>>67123174
LOL
>>67123174
Thatcher made sure to keep the police sweet because she knew her government would need them.
It's only recent Tory governments that have cut the shit out of the police to the point where they have turned on them. Especially going after their pensions
>>67123218
the police are just like anyone else, they get paid to do a job
just like soliders get paid to kill people (rightly or wrongly)
get over it
you'd do the same
they are just supporting their families and putting food on the table
this isn't V for Vendetta you edgy /b/tard faggots
>>67123164
How the fuck can they blame the paramedics?
>>67123275
How the fuck can they blame the police?
This is Liverpool we're talking about. They'll blame anyone but themselves.
>>67123253
This, my Dad was a policeman back in the day, and he loved it.
They used to have their own social clubs, tons of perks, discounts everywhere, highly staffed, and a GOAT pension
>>67123275
They put in the cut off time of 3:15 saying nobody could be saved by that point, the medical records showed people carried on dying until 4:45 and many could have been saved
>>67122798
>Everything is a result of circumstance
Yes I get that but the Police are there to contain it (no pun again).
>>67122814
I agree it was terrible patrolling.
>>67122848
>Liverpool fans were at the least 50% to blame
How did you come up with that figure g?
>>67123067
And the FA, too, then for putting the semis in Hillsborough...
Like I said, tragic accident.
>>67123304
Paramedics will never ever make that call. Plus they don't carry medical records
someone is lying
>>67123275
Well they obviously murdered the fans by way of not conducting blood magick corpse reanimations
>>67123202
>implying I have 38 friends and loved ones
Liverscums
https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/4gk5dx/quick_poll/
>>67123484
>fuck off back to 4chan you cunt.
I kekd
>liverpoo fans
>"people"
>>67123550
>/sp/ posters
>"""""""""people"""""""""""
>>67123576
I take no issue with my subhuman status.
>>67123484
fucking lmao why are they so assblasted
>>67123613
the truth hurts
TIL Jeremy Hunt - during his time as sports secretary - linked the Hillsborough tragedy with hooliganism, blaming the victims.
If the people at the back don't push, the people at the front don't die. And all the nasal bleating in the world can't change that inarguable fact.
>>67121497
But there was an actual managed decline of Liverpool discussed
>>67123484
Now I know who the constantly butthurt Irish ABL is.
ty Peter White.
If you want to see the victim mentality and the massive collective chip on the shoulder that Scousers possess, just look at the comments on anything vaguely critical of Liverpool including this thread. Subhuman bindippers.
>>67121664
>174 pages
>been going since 2009
Incredible
>>67121152
It was all of those
>>67123484
I'm going to post this on r/soccer
> Scousers forget how to queue in an orderly fashion
> It's therefore the fault of the police for not predicting this breakdown in basic behaviour
If I forget that stepping in front of traffic is a bad idea is it the fault of the local plod for not stopping me from stepping in front of an articulated lorry?
>>67123773
This.
If I'm waiting in line at Tesco to I will wait for the person in front of me to move before I myself move forward.
I wouldn't attempt to push my way to the front.
96 WNE
I tell ya what boys. Um err, see, now you let me in, I’m… I’m crushin up, right… What you gotta realize is – we’re… we’re ninety six fans down. I’ve been a scouser for near enough twenty years. I moved to Sheffield, and I hate Maggeh, I hate Torehs, and I hate Munichs, right? This is the first time… the first time I’ve ever been crushed like I've been in this paddock. This paddock is just… full, man. And I blame that, Maggeh. This is… I hate you, Maggeh… *dropped wallet stolen* getting crushed to bits. Crushed to bits. But I tell ya something – Maggeh, Torehs, and the south yorkshire police, err arr err areforcin us into the paddock. And it shows in the death toll, we’re now… we’re now ninety five… we’re now… hold on a minute… we’re now ninety six scousers down. ninety six scousers down. I came without a ticket. I came without manners… I, I’ve… brought my son too… when he was, he was at the gates– oh, dad we need tickets, we need tickets, overcrowding, trampling, we need tickets, overcrowding, tramling, and I stuck… I stuck by my guns, said ‘listen sunshine: wear the red, wear the scouse we’ll… wear the red, wear the scouse, we will force our way through.’ And all of a sudden, my son’s turned around to me and looked me in the eye today - looked me in the eye – and turned around and said to me ‘da? Da?!’… Someones pissing on my head! I can't breath! He’s seen animals, he’s seen wild animals like scousers, like… ugh, honest to God… Now, tell me - you cannot, you cannot, you cannot tell me we have not got a chance at justice for the ninety six, Maggeh. And this is, this is… this is… this.. I was… I grew up with you, Maggeh. You cannot tell me, you cannot believe we cannot get justice. La.
>>67125523
>not pushing your way to the front and blaming the cops for not stopping you
m8 it's 2016
>>67125964
good post lad
>48% of /sp/ are ABL
wew lad, the butthurt will be immense when we win the euro cup
atvinyf
>>67125964
oh wow
>>67125964
>wear the red, wear the scouse, we will force our way through
>>67125964
Holy kek
>>67125964
All time post
>>67125964
bumping
>>67121824
Base Boris
>>67121923
they did, and people went to prison for what happened that day. the same cannot be said for 'illsbreh
>>67125964
>faulkneresque stream of consciousness trolling
pretty impressive
>>67123218
Thatcher famously had to bus London and southern police up to deal with the miners strikes because the local northern police couldn't be trusted to put down the miners.
South Yorkshire was the heart of the miners strike and anti-thatcherism, so I'd imagine these particular police weren't so cosy with her government at the time
>>67125964
Comedy gold
> be a Britbong soccer fan
> show up late for the game
> be drunk off your ass
> don’t even have a ticket
> have to be caged like an animal
> behave like a spazz
“I dindu nuffin, m8! Gibsmedat settlement money, guv’nor!”
Reading the wiki page; sure, the cops fucked up but the blame falls wholly on the stupid fans.
How the fuck can the cops be held responsible for murder, when it was the retarded fans that caused the problem?
