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happy birthday randall cunningham edition
CAR:Norman seeking deal worth $16 million annually
NYJ:Wilkerson tag-and-trade 'next to impossible'
DEN:Von Miller asking Broncos for $22 million a year
ATL:Falcons sign run-stuffer Courtney Upshaw
FA:Report: Fitzpatrick asking for $16 million annually
CLE:RG3 to work with quarterback guru Tom House
NO:Saints match RFA offer sheet for TE Josh Hill
CLE:Breer: Browns haven't promised RG3 anything
CLE:Broncos were concerned about Griffin's character
FA:Trent Richardson opens up about why he failed
SF:Report: Jets not pursuing Colin Kaepernick
NE:Patriots take 1-year flier on Nate Washington
naners
lel
>>66432089
chicago is shit
giggles
Pats in trade talks with Bengals
>>66432428
Who Dat?
Wade Wilson?
They'll go 16-0. Stafford will shatter every offensive record and throw a 158.3 season, 6000+ yards, 60+ touchdowns and 0 interceptions. Golden Tate will catch 25 touchdowns and 2000+ yards. They will have 4 other 1000+ yard receivers/TEs. Abdullah will run for 2500+ yards. Their defense will produce 50+ interceptions and 90+ sacks. They will have every single roster spot on the NFC pro-bowl and the all-pro team and they will win every game by 50+ points.
This will happen, this is a concrete truth as factual as the universe itself.
Question:
My brother showed me a question from Reddit's NFL page about if a kicker could kick a 75 yard FG at 90% accuracy, how much would he get paid?
Typical Reddit got this shit wrong and went pants on head retarded wanting to give him more than the highest paid QB.
>>66432357
For?
>>66432752
its that faggot who keeps spamming about AJ Green going to the Pats
>>66432650
Golden Taint will be reduced to average without Calvin playing across him. Think his years in Seattle when he couldn't even top 900 yards.
>>66432712
You wouldn't pay a kicker crazy for being automatic from 75 yards?
>>66432905
Johnson missed a bunch of games this year and Tate did good
>>66432910
Yeah, I know. Fucking morons.
>>66432793
They just cant >soon like us
>>66433278
Still got that Fletcher Cox one pham?
/nfl/ trips must truly be suffering right now. How do you go on?
>>66432712
Which would you rather have:
A kicker that can kick a 85 yarder with 95% accuracy
Or
A 7'1 TE that can jump 4 feet
>>66433401
The one who isn't on IR 5 minutes into Week 1 with a torn ACL/MCL/Meniscus
>>66433401
A 95 yard tight end who could 95% accurate with kickers
>>66433341
its really hard to shop his fatass in a ravens uniform because he is a gluttonous philthadelphia eagle
I never finished it
313 Days Until the Seahawks Win Super Bowl LI.
>>66433460
Lol, they put cheese wiz on their cheese steaks, what do you expect? I'm waiting for Bradford to reach Jamarcus levels of fat soon
>>66433401
The real question is can he block and or catch?
if he can catch sure if not ill take the jesus leg kicker
>>66433482
I miss fat Chris Pratt
>>66433401
the kicker, I would have pretty much guaranteed 3 PPD, and if I even had a midway competent offense, I would likely have the highest scoring offense off A L L T I M E.
also the TE would blow his ACL on the first drive of the preseason
>Colin Kaepernick is still on the 49ers' roster
>>66433755
All offensive records from 2007 should be deleted from the books because of that meme force out rule that they refs went full retard on that season
RIP Darryl
>>66433763
Ahhhh the days when 49er fans still talked shit around the gigantic Kap cock in their mouths.
I don't miss them. At all.
>>66433838
I never liked Cuckernick though. Not much of a Smeth fan either, but with 20/20 hindsight there is no question we fucked up.
>>66433902
Am I the only one who thinks Kapernick is gay?
We never even hear about him hacking through Instagram skanks, the fuck does he do with his time? Clearly he doesn't study film.
Can you imagine how much better Easter Sunday would be if there were football? Fuck the offseason.
>>66434015
>Can you just imagine how much better EVERY Sunday would be if there were football
Yes.
>>66433932
He was involved in the "She was naked when we got here" incident with Ricardo Lockette
>>66433932
>>66434032
who the fuck are you?
>>66434032
Someone should stream a random old game every Sunday.
>>66434015
>>66434032
Robo football league when? non stop football except for weekly maintenance inspections
>>66433902
Hey the Memeiors just won
TYBC
>>66434063
I'm the ghost of /sp/'s past.
>>66434070
Look I'm quitting my job and going professional when Robot Boxing becomes a thing.
cowboys rule, other teams drool
>>66434051
Yeah but didn't she say they weren't fucking and that he tucked her in or some shit like that?
Questionable, all I'm saying.
>>66434121
>4-12
>>66432147
Hey fuck you Sweden what have given the world beyond the zlatan and blondes which I might add are annoying cheeky cunts, like you
>>66434258
Swedish chicks are pretty fucking ugly though
>>66434298
is it time to make fun of sweden again?
>>66434121
Kek. Cowshit fans are the biggest hold-out bandwagoners
>>66434329
Release the hate kraken upon the Swedish cucks
>>66434329
Sure, gotta give Canada a break after all. He's sensitive
>CAR:Norman seeking deal worth $16 million annually
Can someone just fuck my shit up? All year long I had people coming up to me talking about how good our rookie cornerback was. No one knew it was his 4th year because he was a fucking nobody for 3 years. He's a product of a Carolina system that made it to the superbowl with Cortland Finnegan and Robert McClain pulled off the streets. Now he wants to be paid like he's the best CB in the game, fucking his team over in the process. I watched him get his ass kicked by Odell (on the field, not mentally). He was over hyped because in the first 4 games his toughest challenge was Luke McCown and was immediately labelled as "shut down" and then was never thrown at again. He had 4 interceptions all year long, all 4 in those first 4 games. Bortles, Mallet, McCown, Winston. You know who else was 4 interceptions? Luke Kuechely and Thomas Davis, their fucking linebackers; Kurt Coleman had 7. Fuck this guy save that money for some real players.
Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks this.
>>66434374
yes sir chuck norris sir
>>66434394
Well I'm sure he will stay tagged and his replacement will be drafted. He is just trying to cash in on the low CB talent available in FA and just in general. Cbs take a couple years to groom into consistent playmakers and seeing how shitty Qbs are getting good contracts for only 1 year of play hes gonna try to get some of that cap space that keeps increasing every year by 10Million
On another note, Kirk Cousins will dominate the NFC East and will get $22 Million a year if he wins a playoff game
http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000646331
which one of you /tv/ crossposters was this?
Did fun in the NFL die when Ocho called it quits? Nobody entertains anymore.
tybc
You may only (you) if your team is on the rise
>>66434625
It's funny because he's bankrupt
>>66434848
No he's not. Hes pretty smart with his money and still kinda works as a sports personality.
What team is going to win the owl this year and why is it the Lions?
Daily reminder the Cowboys have gone .500 since 2000
>>66434887
I thought I read somewhere he's paying out his ass for child support
>>66434926
It will be the Vikings. The stars are going to align this season, I swear
>>66435058
>On the rise
>No QB
>>66432650
This is how far trolling has fallen, folks.
>>66435038
I think you're confusing him for T.O.
>>66434926
>>66435042
>Lions and Vikings taking the north when GB is healthy
How cute
>>66435064
Johnson has 5 kids with 2 women and isn't married to either so he's paying a fuck ton of money as well
>>66435131
>Healthy
That will last a week at most. I bet Rodgers blames UFOs for the injuries too
>>66435131
>11/26/2015
>>66432020
>mfw i have said ALL season that the broncos are the AFC'S PREMIER TEAM
>mfw fartriots, bunglels, stoolers and queefs shitters would get all angry about it
>mfw people kept saying the broncos were overrated
>mfw everybody said manning couldn't win another SB
>mfw obnoxious crapolina "panthers" "fans" would not shut the hell up about how they would win the SB for weeks on end
>mfw every single one of these loser faggots have been put in their place
>mfw i get to remind everybody ALL YEAR LONG that the broncos are SB champions and there isn't shit they can do about it
stay angry you fat impotent bitch ass gay wad inbred morons LMFAO
>Lions poised for amazing future
>Ted Thompson literally paid to do nothing
>Unironically being the QB to lose the streak
>>66435182
Not even the refs can save them next year
>>66435161
>I bet Rodgers blames UFOs for the injuries too
>>66435038
He pays child support, but he's pretty much a full time Dad and trying to win custody of his girls. He's all proud of being frugal and saving money, and he has a podcast with an NFL Network personality. Plus he's randomly on ESPN enough that I think they're grooming him to work in their Miami studio.
>>66435182
>Lions poised for amazing future
>>66435223
>He's this uninformed
>>66435161
Still can't get over how he blamed the refs after losing to the Cards in the playoffs cos he couldn't recall a coin flip fucking lel full autism
>>66435223
>Best QB in the NFCN
>Top 3 DE
>Top 5 defense when healthy
>Ebron poised to become elite
>AA/ZZ
The Lions are going to the owl next season
>>66435243
Oh look it's JFFM being irrationally mad at the Packers again. Lawl.
>>66435238
Oh look it's the retarded Canadian Lions fan being retarded as usual. Lawl.
>>66435277
Could you tell me your record in this current season again?
>>66435238
wow, you have a guy who looks like he was born 2 month pre mature as a GM. I'm sure he'll succeed where all the other coaches and executives from New England have failed
>>66435243
Packers make more excuses than any team when they lose. Rodgers and Matthews sound like the way your older brother would when you killed him in Halo back in middle school.
>>66435274
>Top 5 defence
kek who's starting in place of Mathis and Ihedigbo btw? You guys relying on the draft?
>>66435287
The season that hasn't even had its draft yet? Well in that case the Packers are undefeated :P
>>66435277
Oh look, it's sneak getting bootyblasted again. Lawl.
>>66435289
What was the Baltimore Ravens 2015-2016 NFL record again?
>>66435315
>Y-you're getting owned, n-not me...!
>I-if I copy what Sneak's saying (because I obviously cannot create my own material) t-then he'll surely lose the nonexistent internet argument on a chinese cartoon imageboard
Lawl.
>"but why are you a browns fan? doesn't it suck?"
No shit it sucks. Of course it does.
It sucked for the saints for about 20 years.
It sucked for the Cowboys in the late 80's before Aikman, Irvin, and Smith came along.
It sucked for the Bucs for 14 consecutive seasons.
And for us, it's sucked for an incredibly long time, and then for another 17 years since the franchise came back in '99. But why am I still a Cleveland fan? Because I'm loyal to my team and refuse to go bandwagon another just because mine isn't a contender. Because Cleveland fans are the best in the NFL. We've endured the drive, the fumble, red right 88, the move, Johnny Manziel, and the 17 seasons since the Browns came back in '99 that haven't brought us a super bowl. We endure the most pain of any fanbase in the NFL, and maybe even in the sports world with Cleveland's other teams. But we don't go bandwagoning the Patriots or the Panthers or the Packers like some people. We stay. We're loyal and true regardless of whether our team and organization is a giant steaming pile of feces on a designated shitting street in the India that is the NFL. We may not have rings or quarterbacks or much to brag about, but we have heart and undying loyalty to our team.
Just watch in the future when we're a contender and maybe one day we'll get to see our team hoist up the lombardi on national television. It will happen. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon. Dawgs are loyal and so are we.
>Browns fans>>>>all other fans in the NFL
>>66435364
>>66435294
Diggs and the draft. Mathis was a liability last year anyway. A few depth players got signed, but nothing special
>>66435386
Lawson > Diggs
>>66435399
morning after poop after drinking keystone ice > 2016 Detroit Lions roster
>>66435449
Lions > puckers
>>66435386
>>66435399
Both 5'9
So again who do you guys have to replace Mathis, Ihedigbo AND Abdul Quddus?
>>66435459
Not a packers fan senpai, just hate the Lions because of their posters on here
>>66435464
Literally doesn't even matter when you have a top 5 DC
Dat nigga can turn Flint water into wine
>>66435473
>just hate the Lions because of their posters on here
>>66435486
>having to steal Ravens coaches
Austin isn't top 5 anyway
The Cowboys will be good this season and there is nothing you can do about it
>>66435464
>Needing tall CBs
NFL is shifting back towards small shifty WRs
>>66435499
You're right, he's #1. Didn't your DBs go to shit after we took him?
>>66435499
>yfw he gets into HOF as a Lion
>>66435513
Texas doesn't have any good sports teams though
>>66435499
He's better than fucking Dean Pees lets be honest
Oh
Hey, rest of the AFC North
Only 31 days until >we have >our franchise quarterback
The future is bright :^)
>>66435522
I think Pees just gets an unfair judgement from Ravens fans because we're used to Elder God tier coordinators like Lewis, Nolan, Pagano, and Ryan
>Osomatsu-san ends tomorrow
>still one month away from the draft
this offseason is pure suffering
>>66435561
And only 310 days until you guys officially ruin another QB
>>66435561
>mfw Wentz pulls an Eli/Elway on the Brownies
>>66435594
This guy will prove otherwise
>>66435517
>NFL is shifting back towards small shifty WRs
Since literally when? Only teams right now making that work have Tom Brady and Russell Wilson as their QBs. Matt Stafford definitely ain't either
Hey guys, just checking in and was wondering if Tom Brady has cheated and/or lied in a Federal Court today?
>Norman: Odell not top-five wr
thoughts?
>>66435634
>Golden Tate
>Theo Riddick
>>66435634
>Brown, Hilton, OBJ, Watkins
>Aaron Brooks has more playoff wins than John Matthew Stafford
>>66435651
I feel like Josh Norman just really loves trolling OBJ because he knows OBJ can't handle the bantz
>>66435684
I don't disagree, but norman couldn't handle beckham's route running
>>66435683
>A basketball player who plays a minimum of 4 games has more wins than a single game elimination player in a completely different sport
Wow.. surprising!
>>66435651
Brown
Julio
Lez
Allen Robinson
Hopkins
>>66435653
>Theo Riddick is a WR
I love me some Golden Tate and Marvin Jones was a solid signing but the Lions need a great great draft to take the North this season
>>66435665
>Watkins
lol what? also having just 1 guy on each team who is slightly under 6ft doesn't mean the NFL as a whole is switching towards smaller WRs those guys just dominate in spite of their height
5'9 CBs have no chance on the outside unless their name is Brent Grimes
>>66435737
>Theo Riddick is a RB
>>66435730
So... let me get this straight, you're saying that it shouldn't matter because Stafford isn't good enough to get his team to the playoffs?
>>66435737
they massively overpaid for Marvin Jones
>>66435778
>I don't know what sarcasm is
>>66435754
He's a receiving back. Like Darren Sproles except not as good
>>66435651
1. OBJ
2. Antonio Brown
3. Julio Jones
4. Larry Fitzgerald
5. Brandon Marshall
Who I take over any 5 WRs at least
God damn the draft needs to get here.
>>66435795
>CJ's got that shit
>>66435813
>Larry Fitz
Quit trolling
>>66432020
>tag and trade nearly impossible
No fucking shit
>>66435813
"Theo is phenomenal," NFL Media analyst Marshall Faulk said recently, via MLive.com. "Man, I love how he plays the game."
"You can tell that at one point in time, at Notre Dame, he was just a receiver," Faulk explained. "Because he catches the ball without thought. I think he could play slot receiver and catch the same 80 balls. He has those abilities."
Norman pls
>>66435835
Fitz is clutch, smart and has some of the best hands in the league. He's not as fast but he's not limited in his game like some of the younger guys people wanna throw up there
>>66435857
Still not as good as Sproles who actually has caught 80 balls in a season
>>66433482
You'll Lose to the Raiders but 3/4 years in the Owl will still be great for you guys
>>66435896
Theo Riddick caught the ball 80 times too last year
>>66434926
CHARGERS
H
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G
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>>66435948
Motherfucker
I need to watch more Lions ball
>>66435990
No, you don't
>>66435990
>His $11.9 million base salary is fully guaranteed for injury. Kaepernick is still recovering from shoulder surgery and might not be able to pass a physical before Friday's deadline. Even if he's healthy for Week 1, the NFL Players' Association would use Article 44 of the CBA to argue Kaepernick should be owed his full salary "because of an injury incurred in the performance of his services under that contract." It's a costly loophole and one that will likely result in Kaepernick staying on the Niners' roster past April 1.
>>66435730
>apehoop
Nigger GTFO
>>66435990
>watching any NFC team
Can't let you do that starfox
>>66436000
2011 Saints were godlike, shit if they defended that one drive against the 49ers they'd win it all.
>>66436007
>Calvin Kaepernick is making $12 mil this year
wew
>>66436000
They must have won a whole bunch of playoff games with those numbers!
>>66435997
What game is this from? Because if that's the 2nd Packers game that was the biggest refball I've ever seen. Shit made me feel physically sick
Still should have had 8+ guys in the endzone though. So fucking stupid
>>66436000
>G-garbage time stats count too
>>66435813
I'd replace fitz with hopkins
I really like fitz but I think last year was likely his last season with anything more than flashes of greatness, he's getting to be pretty damn old
>>66436028
>even with that counted, the naners will still have a relative fuckload of cap space
>and baalke can't GM for shit
>>66436035
they should have rushed more than 3 guys at Rodgers on that play, that was incredibly stupid not to
>>66436035
I think Thanksgiving against the Texans after a missed kick to win the game. The GB one is where you see Megatron decide he's done with the NFL
>>66436055
>>66436035
>Guys standing around in the middle of the field not doing shit on a play that never should have happened
FUCK GOODELL FUCK THE REFS FUCK CALDWELL
>>66436035
>>66436055
>>66436074
>that play
haha
>>66436035
>there will always be the defender playing the flat zone who watched rodgers for a solid 10 seconds and didnt blitz
refball was fucking disgraceful but they played that horribly and deserved that loss
>>66436079
>Puckers needing the refs to avoid getting swept by the Lions
Pretty pathetic tbqh senpai
>>66436044
We'll see and I was just talking right now not projecting to this season or anything
Hopkins is fucking good I wish he'd fallen to the Ravens in 2013
>>66436055
Na you have to simply defend the endzone on that play. Rush too many and a throw and catch with a couple broken tackles could have just as easily gotten a TD as well
Lions went half and half with a weird 20 yard sideline contain and their season went down the detoilet because of it
>bullshit face mask call the play before
>obvious hold on the hail mary to ''''''''''''win'''''''''''' the game
>Aaron Rodgers using possible Alien technology to win games
Packfags are never allowed to bitch about the Fail Mary ever again
>>66436116
>can't sweep the packers in the past 25 seasons
pretty pathetic fizzam
>>66436140
>Packfags are never allowed to bitch about the Fail Mary ever again
least we don't try and change the rules due to supreme levels of butthurt
>m-muh eligible receiver!
>>66436134
When teams only rush 3 in situations like that it never ends well. Remember that 3rd or 4th and 18 Roethlisberger had in that playoff game against the Ravens in Antonio Brown's rookie year? Ravens only rushed 3 and Ben easily threw a 20 some yarder to Brown and they went on to win the game. Extra pressure > more men in the secondary
or at least to to contain the QB in the pocket which the Loins didn't do
>tfw heterosexual QB
Blessed.
>>66436158
>I WUZ GONNA CALL TAILS ON THE RE FLIP, DAS WHY WE LOST
>>66436167
I have the same type of dog as the one on the right. Doesn't have that gay haircut though
>>66436163
Exactly that 3rd and 18 in 2010 iirc was a fail because they didn't have enough pressure but when It's TD or lose It's different you simply need to knock away the pass or stop them short
>>66436171
>getting more mad over a coinflip that doesn't involve your team whatsoever than the fans and players of the team that lost out the most because of one coin flip
What is it with Ravens tripfags getting so mad over the Packers? Is it an inferiority complex? Is it because Flacco can and will never measure up to a truly elite QB like Aaron Rodgers despite how he sometimes complains and has a slight possibility of being bisexual?
>>66436196
>Aaron Rodgers is now elite
S-Sneak?
>>66435364
Truer than the rest of us shall ever know.
>>66436205
he finally got his revenge on swag this year, let him be thankful
>bounced out of the playoffs by 3 different NFCW teams in 3 years
>>66436196
I hate the packers because you are such an insufferable mollusk, the NFCN "bantz" as a whole is total shit, and none of your rivalries are relevant anymore, we're all sick of being forced to watch primetime Packers and Bears games every year
>>66436196
>thinking anybody outside of the NFCN cares about the packers
cant take the banter
>>66436232
>>66435577
>pagano
>failed conversion attempt against the patriots
>elder tier
Kek
>>66435651
As it stands id agree
>brown
>jones
>Hopkins
>marshall
>Fitzgerald
Also above him
>Jarvis landry, who had better stats last year with Ryan tannehill throwing to him.
>>66436232
>hating the packers solely because of me
Wow that's kinda pathetic.
>>66436240
Dude two of your team's own tripfags regularly shittalk the Packers over every other team save for their division rivals and maybe the Pats/Cowboys too. Maybe.
>>66436268
>Pagano is a special teams coordinator
wew
>>66436274
It's only because you're such an easy target and stooler and bengal posters on here are pretty decent so don't flatter yourself
>>66434625
>lotion & imagination will suffice
If Chad Johnson played when we had twitter, he would be the most followed athlete 5 times over.
>>66436274
I dont know, Old Bay has made me dislike the ravens a lot, and I used to be fine with them.
How many lions fans are on here? Lions suck tbqh senpai stafford throws tantrums on the field and yet lions try to defend him saying "he hasn't reached his full potential" I think hed be worst than cam newton if he lost the wild card round and yet dickriot fans still say they're going to the sb.
>imcrying.jpg
>>66436308
It's only because I style on the patriots so often
>>66436305
>such an easy target
lol how wrong you are
>>66436319
I'm beginning to suspect that the CLF is nothing more than your typical falseflagger.
>>66436361
Trust me m8, I can handle the bantz, you're just an insufferable cunt in general.
>>66436361
Weren't the ravens relevant like 15 years ago though senpai?
>>66436385
>lol how wrong you are
you are though
>>66436399
But I'm not.
>>66436396
15 years and 3 years ago
>>66436396
Its funny how people say that but still, the ravens manage to get talked about in every thread by people who arent fans of the team
>>66436413
Didnt even know there was a super bowl that year. Mustve been very boring tbqh
>>66436385
>falseflagger
>>66436415
Ray Lewis is all I know about the ravens. Ravens in general are a stale team. Even the Cleveland browns are much more interesting
>>66436415
Really only New England can claim more success than the Ravens since 2000. Giants and Steelers have as many owls in that time but disappear for huge stretches at a time and haven't done shit recently and Seattle is just the new kid on the block
>>66436427
Not really?
>>66436464
>falseflagger
Serious question why do towns like pittsburg and green bay have professional sports teams?
>>66436481
You're really not helping disprove that claim.
>>66436488
Gives the hicks in those places something to do other than chug Pabst and beat their significant others
>>66436449
To be fair, Steelers have gone to more SB than the Ravens since 2000.
Ravens are easily top 5 since 2000 tho.
>>66436433
You must be a casual viewer, considering most people in the general know more than one player from each team.
>>66436505
>No way to prove it
>H-He's a falseflagger
>>66436512
>casual viewer
>feels your sombrero fedora tipping
Mysides.jpg
>>66436449
>>66436512 this desu the Steelers can easily claim more success they've been to 3 owls and won 2 in that time plus they haven't had a losing season since 03 iirc. Giants I'll agree even though they've been to 3 owls and won 2 they have been very inconsistent have won only 1 playoff game outside those owl runs
I'd say since 2000
1. Patriots
2. Steelers
3. Ravens
4. Giants
5. Seahawks
>>66436007
Jesus how fucked is he? I thought they were playing up his injury to make it look less like his lost his job to Gabbert
>>66436544
you are a casual if you don't know about Reed, Suggs, Yanda, Ngata or Ogden. All but Ogden are future hall of famers and that's only because Ogden is already in
>>66436565
You forgot ayy lmao packers desu
>>66436574
Nah brah should I know them? All I know is football is fun to watch :DDDDDDXDDDD
Fuck the Ravens honestly famlee
>>66436565
I would actually bump the Seahawks up above the Giants because they had a nice run under Hasselbeck and Holmgren. Still kinda hard to recognize the Steelers though since they've only won one playoff game since that SB loss to green bay and that was against the Bungles with AJ McCarron.
>>66436526
It's really just an endless cycle at this point, as it is with most things around here. Maybe that's why we keep coming back.
>>66436574
Yanda is pretty low profile (which seems to be the case for most guards); also, Ngata won't be a HoF, unless he puts a DPOY performance.
>>66436626
Idk Yanda is heads and shoulders the best OL in football and Ngata has 5 all pros under his belt. Ngata may be the longest shot and he won't be first ballot but he certainly has a shot of getting in.
>>66435364
Word nigga.
>>66436488
Its not a serious question though. Maybe because they weren't always irrelevant economically or have a long history of football pre-nfl
>>66436574
>Yanda
>hall of famer
Not even the best active guard
>>66436640
>>66436626
Not to mention that Ngata was effectively the man who ended RGIII's career so he has that going for him as well
>>66436640
Joe Thomas is the best lineman since Walter Jones retired. Could be top 5 all time.
>>66436659
thats just a stupid remark who is better than yanda
>>66436675
Look at Yanda's PFF grades
>>66436676
Career wise? Jahri Evans and it's not even close. He's been shit for the last two years but his career is unreal, 90s Cowboys tier lineman.
>>66436687
>PFF
Thomas has consistently been ranked THE HIGHEST for multiple years. People just ignore him because he's on the Browns but he's on par with guys like Munoz, Matthews and Roaf.
>>66436687
>PFF grades
>>66436574
Love em but Suggs and Ngata ain't HOFers
Reed and Lewis are 1st ballot and Yanda should get in after 3-5 years I'd say
>>66436659
>Not even the best active guard
lol
>>66436659
>5 pro bowls
>2 first all pro
>2 second team all pro
>SB champion
All he needs to do is keep collecting pro bowls, even the hacks at PFF think he's the best guard.
>posting the word nigger
No problem
>laughing patrician fan.jpg spam
Fine
>a bit of tiny banter towards Cam "God" Newton
STRICTLY PROHIBITED
I knew some of the mods here were shit, but salty bandwagon fans too?
Why do you greasy fucks moderate a board you hate FOR $0.00 (free)?
>>66436739
Evans
6x pro bowl
4x first team all pro
1x second team all pro
SB Champion
And one of the main reasons behind Brees putting up videogame tier numberd
>>66436707
Suggs absolutely gets in. Look at his resume, defensive rookie, defensive player, multiple pro bowls and all pros not to mention a ring.
>>66436706
>>66436705
Can't judge a OL off yards and TDs so gotta work with what you got. Also Yanda had a ranking in the 40's 2 seasons back and the next highest OL was in the 20's so Thomas hasn't been ranked the best
>>66436691
Evans and Yanda are very comparable but Yanda is still going and getting better with age and Evans has had zero interest in free agency at only age 32. Yanda will have the better career
>>66436707
Suggs is a solid case for HoF, not first ballot tho:
>over 100 sacks
>DPOY
>2 all pro
>6 pro bowls
>>66436770
Lets be honest if they switched teams Yanda would have even more accolades because he'd have been in a Drew Brees offense. Flacco is effective but he's not a stat demon like Brees and it's hard for lineman in average offenses to get recognized
>>66436770
Career wise, of course he's the best RG, then again, Yanda is still young.
>>66436786
Honestly I have doubts, if TO didn't get in on first ballot because of character issues then a headcase criminal coon like Suggs will probably make the voters think twice.
But of course he's a tremendous player, no question.
>>66436771
>>66436786
It ain't the hall of very good
Suggs deserved his DPOY but other than that year I'd like to see any argument for him being a top 5 pass rusher any other year. Stats and awards are great but imo he doesn't deserve it + he's scumbag off the field which doesn't help his chances
>>66436840
TO not being a first balloter was a fucking joke, but everyone knew he was too much of a showboat for the likes of the voters.
Suggs seems to be pretty liked by the media, he has been the face of the Ravens since Lewis left in those SNF intros. I wouldn't dare to say he's a fist balloter tho.
>>66436840
TO wasn't a criminal though, and Suggs has only had minor run ins with the law nothing too crazy. TO didn't get in because of politics and being a shitty teammate. Also never claimed Suggs was first ballot, but he'll get in within 5 years of eligibility
>>66436848
idk Jerome Bettis got in. Also Suggs impact goes beyond sacks, he plays the run well and is actually capable in coverage. He's an outstanding all around player.
>>66436901
>nothing too crazy
Threatened to pour acid on his gf's face, beat a guy to a pulp with a baseball bat and had dirty plays left and right.
TO was just a shit talker.
Will there ever be a "dream team"?
What team would be crazy enough to do it and which players would they grab?
>>66436840
Michael Irvin had a fuck ton of issues, including stabbed his own teammate ending his career and he got in. The only thing the voters for the hall care about is being media friendly and Suggs definitely is that.
Don't believe me, ask Owens, Haley and Carter
>>66436934
2007 Pats were the closest, or some of the 49ers squads when Young played.
>>66436939
>TO and Carter weren't first ballot
>Junior Seau was, just because he died
HOF is a joke
>>66436926
He never threatened to pour acid on anyone, no one cares about shit that happened in college, and prove to me that Suggs is a dirty player. He plays hard but I no one who watches him would consider him dirty
Thinkin about watchin the Randy Moss 30 for 30, it any good?
>>66436934
I don't think the salary cap will allow such thing.
Coaches would probably be:
HC-Belichick
DC: Wade Phillips
OC: Gary Kubiak
ST: John Harbaugh
>>66433783
>literally nine years later
>still butt flustered as fuck
Kek
>>66436957
He destroyed Brees' shoulder in the meaningless fucking pro bowl where every other defender ian't allowed to do anything.
>>66436991
Suggs hit Brees in the legs and he fell landing on his NON THROWING ARM dislocating his NON THROWING ELBOW. How does that make Suggs dirty?
>>66436958
Yes, prepare for feels though
>>66436978
Did you know that salaries for coaches and coordinators are uncapped?
I keep waiting for someone to throw $40 million a year at Belichick or Carroll or John Harbaugh. Owners are so rich they could easily afford it, particularly the ones with the high-value teams. Come to think of it, why hasn't Jerry Jones done this?
>>66436934
If Cleveland let one of it's die hard fans become owner/GM, the splash in FA/draft would be insane.
For instance, if they did it this offseason:
Defense -
>Chris Long, DE
>Malik Jackson, DT
>Danny Shelton (if 4/3) DT
>Joey Bosa (huge trade in draft giving Joe Thomas to Ravens after picking Wentz second)
>Danny Trevathan, LB
>Bruce Irvin, MLB
>Karlos Dansby - MLB
>Paul Kruger, LB
>Eric Weddle - FS
>Donte Whitner - SS
>Joe Haden - CB
>Janoris Jenkins - CB
Offense:
>Wentz - QB
>Duke Johnson - RB
>Josh Gordon, Mohamed Sanu, Marvin Jones - WR
>Gary Barnidge - TE
>O-line: Same as usual, except Mack and Schwartz don't leave and Joe Thomas is replaced by someone drafted
Some crazy shit like that probably i dunno
>>66437073
Because Jerry Jones is senile.
>>66437079
>implying any of those guys would want to play for cuckland
Just because a few players realised the Raiders weren't complete dogshit now and could compete doesn't mean they would have a hope of getting more than 1-2 of those guys
Cleveland is in the same place as SF because of how tough their division is
Was he really that good or do people just say that because they feel bad he's dead?
>>66437103
Players care mostly about money. If someone is offered a hefty contract they'll take it, nobody cares it's Cleveland.
>>66437105
I rated him more before he died. Since then, I analyzed him more and realized he wasn't THAT good.
>>66437105
>DPOY
>10 time all pro (8 first team)
>12 pro bowls
>played for almost 20 years
>took the Chargers to the SB
>was part of the 2007 pats
He was great.
>>66437105
He's the kind of guy that would make the hall maybe 10 years after retirement. Certainly not deserving to be a first ballot.
>>66437105
He was a good linebacker with the Chargers when the only real competition was Ray Lewis and Zach Thomas for all pro/pro bowl awards, but yeah mainly he got the Heath Ledger treatment
>>66437105
He was good but gets the dead props
It's like Mcnair, if he didn't die everyone would say he's the same as like Vinnie Testaverde, good but nothing special
>>66437103
I mean, I know that, but who wouldn't want the challenge of playing in the AFCN if all the teams were neck and neck? If the Browns became extremely competitive somehow, the Ravens go back to the way they were, and the Bengals and Steelers continue playing how they have been (maybe even better), it'd easily be the AFC's toughest division and the most fun to watch.
>>66437154
The Browns WILL become competitive if the retard owner doesn't fire Hue after two seasons like the Browns always do.
