Ward, Brook, Eubank, and Fury all winners today.
Kovalev vs Ward in the fall gets one step closer.
>the Ward meme will finally end
Kovalev is gunna push his shit in
If Ward had accepted that 50/50 deal at 164 against GGG, who would've won?
>>66419805
I wonder how Kovalev will react to his dirty shit
>>66419819
Against the Kovalev we just saw?
GGG
Golovkin. Especially if Ward didn't have a warmup fight or two.
>>66419805
>Whiteboys clinging to Russian cuz there are no good white
Truly pathetic
>>66419805
>being this wrong
lmao. kovalev will eat left hooks all night
>>66419840
meant for >>66419819
>>66419819
GGG. In all honestly Ward would have been drained and GGG would have ended it late.
Ward is realistically too big for GGG.
>>66419846
>no good white
You havent heard of Algieri?
Looks like Tyson Fury a bit here. Reminds me somehow
Ward vs Kovalev is a 50/50, stop arguing, you spergs. Kovalev can actually box, throw combinations and Ward actually hits pretty hard.
>>66419846
Is that Maravilla?
>having to wait a month until GGG
>>66419875
Its the manic smile
>>66419882
I don't know if I want him to end it in the 1st round or drag it out for 6 rounds.
>>66419878
Yeah
>>66419870
>algieri
>white
>>66419878
Yeah
>>66419875
>stop arguing
Do you know where you are?
>>66419878
Of course
You just watched Ward go life and death with a 34 year old Cuban bum.
He was shit at 168, he's double the shit at 175.
He better just duck Kovalev or he's gonna get fucked up
>>66419875
60/40
Ward can hit hard as he wants but he doesn't get Kovalevs attention.
It all comes down to whether or not Ward and set his gameplan to effectively exploit Kovalevs balance. Thats where I see Ward having the most effect against Kovalev.
>>66419875
It's more like 80-20 in KKK's favor. Any advantage Ward has in raw boxing talent is significantly narrower than Kovalev's power advantage. Not to mention the fact that Kovalev want to beat the shit out of you when you step into the ring with him. He doesn't fuck around. Every shot he takes in meant to wound, whereas Andre tries to set you up and to outpoint you. Kovalev is truly a great professional boxer.
>>66419916
He looked like he had more trouble with Smith than Barrera. Then again, it might've been that extra rust.
>>66419875
for comparison. Based strong christian white men
>>66419928
Didn't bother with the Smith fight. Only even watched tonight to mock him. It turned out to be a good plan.
He's got no future at LHW. I'd even take Fonfara/Hopkins/Stevenson to beat him. Kovalev will just beat his ass.
>>66419916
>life and death
what the hell are you talking about
>>66419966
>white
>>66420030
Got touched up by a 34 year old Cuban uknown who was slow and dull as shit. He even gave himself a "b minus" in the fight. Hbo spent all night trying to pretend only to walk it all back post fight by admitting he looked like shit and needed "at least one more fight" before fighting Kovalev.
Aka, they know he looked like shit against a handpicked bum.
What the hell are you talking about rookie?
>>66420229
this guy's amateur record was 240-30 or something. ward schooled him after a year long layoff. Seriously did barrera even land a noticeable punch the entire fight
ward would wreck kovalev even without the warmup
>>66420600
> year long layoff
> ring rust meme
![Dominick-cruz[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TH2QJAm.jpg "Dominick-cruz[1].jpg")
>>66420600
>ring rust
There's no such thing as rust. Rust does not exist unless you don't train hard enough
>>66419846
>there are no good whites
>posts fellow countrymen
At least you admit that you're niggers.
ward looked good. kovalev will still end him though
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/27/nick-blackwell-in-coma-title-fight-defeat-chris-eubank-jr
>the eubank family in charge of brains
>brain bleed
>induced coma
he's gonna be fine though guys....right????
>>66423397
>tfw Eubz will be ducked like the plague for this
Nick Blackwell is a g, I hope he's alright
I also hope eubank gets KTFO by Billie Joe Saunders in the rematch
>all these 'ban boxing' nu-males reacting to the Blackwell injury
Makes my blood boil family
>>66423436
Lol, nobody is ducking Eubanks Jr.
>>66421152
He should end him. He's a natural LHW who could probably fight at cruiser. The most powerful puncher in the sport. The thing is though, old Hopkins took him the distance. Ward is basically young Hopkins. It could be a very close fight.
>>66419794
The Brook fight was a joke. Even Campbell on the undercard got a squash. Hilarious matchmaking.
>>66423753
Blackwell's coaches and the ref should all be fined for not stopping it earlier desu.
>>66423753
Like these motherfuckers dont know what they're getting into. Same shit with football
>>66424464
He was punching back the entire time you dumb fuck. Nobody had literally any right to stop that as
A) He was never wobbled. His legs never went.
B) He was punching back and defending himself. He didn't just shell up and stand there.
I wouldn't have stopped it if I was his corner but I would ask him to show me something.
He was lucky the ref got the eye looked at when he did. I think the ref was 100% in the right.
>>66424547
>Gets pummeled so bad that he's put into a medically induced coma after the fight
Yeah man, great job done by all.
>>66424447
>ward is basically young Hopkins
Lol, yeah young Hopkins with handspeed, foot speed and actual power
>>66424447
>old Hopkins took him the distance
and Hopkins was literally and virtually defending 95 % of the time in rounds 2-11. This is how you can tell someone hasn't watched the fights. Only times when it seemed like Hopkins could go heem sleepy were the first and last round, the only rounds when he somehow opened up for some moments.
The "le hopkins went distance" isn't an indicator of any sort. Kovalev was power, and he has a lot of it. And Ward isn't going to just defend the whole night and hope for the better. If he does, it's over for him, distance or not.
Also Hopkins doesn't have the same style as Ward, cut this bullshit. He's way more defensive.
I still say 50/50, just calling you on your """"conclusions""" based on flimsy evidence-la
Cant fucking wait for Ward vs Kovalev. Best fight in boxing. Fuck that CaneLOL vs lil G bullshit. This fight is for the #1 p4p spot. I give a slight edge to Ward but this fight is gonna be a close one
>>66425253
Ward modeled his style after Hopkins.
>>66424547
it should've been stopped in round 6-7...
it was becoming uncomfortable to watch, end of the day if Blackwell didn't have this "hardman" reputation, it would've been stopped a lot earlier.
>>66423018
Eubanks Jr. is really starting to take after his daddy.
>If the referee doesn’t stop it, I don’t know what to tell you, but I will tell you this, if he doesn’t stop it, and you keep beating him like this, one, he’s getting hurt, two, if it goes to a decision, why hasn’t he stopped the fight? I don’t get why, so maybe you shouldn’t leave it to the referee. Now you’re not going to take him out to the face, you’re going to take him out to the body
based eubank senior saw it coming.
>>66425766
those brutal uppercuts were the same shots that fucked up watson. still not convinced that junior isn't a meme fighter.
>>66425793
Why is everyone so hard on Jr.?
His dad, I can understand, he was always cocky and weird as fuck and all the cocaine and brain damage didn't do him any favors.
But it seems like most people don't like Jr. because they take his autistic/anti-social behavior as cockiness which is a bit unfair to the lad.
>>66425793
This is a good point actually, Eubank Sr did call it.
>>66420600
Ward didn't really land anything noticeable. Lol @ bringing up an amateur record. Guy's 34 years old with 17 pro fights and his best win is that arab guy.
Ward is considered "p4p" and he goes 12 hard rounds with this guy?
>oooh but he won on points
Lol
>>66424980
Ward's got no power and his speed looked average at best. He's gonna have a hard time at 175 fighting guys his own size.
>>66426490
Kovalev's best wins are against Grandpa Hopkins and Jean Pascal lol
When Wilder BTFO Povetkin will you niggers finally give him some credit or is it just gonna be more hate?
>>66427177
if Wilder knocks Povetkin out, I'll blame it on his ridiculous size advantage, similar to Wlad v. Povetkin, the only time Povetkin has looked ridiculous. But it won't happen anyway, though if it happens - I'll give him some credit, may be top 5 HW for the last 6 months kek. Great achievement
>>66427089
>implying Ward could beat either one of those
He couldn't even discourage Barrera
>>66427177
If he beats him of course he gets credit
>>66427206
Povetkin didn't look ridiculous. Wlad looked ridiculous with all that holding and mauling and the ref did nothing about it. Wlad's a joke.
>>66427206
basically the three legit HWs today are Ortiz, Wlad and Fury. You step below, and there be dragons.
The rest of the top 10 you can play around as much as you want. You can lump Joshua, Browne, Parker, Wilder, Pulev, Charles Martin, Haye in there and move them around as you please, I wouldn't care. Povetkin is the most solid top 4 contestant of all them in terms of skill and resume, but he's also one of the smallest guys, so he can be beaten. If Wilder beats those in this top 10 excluding the first 3 I mentioned, at best I'd be generous to say he's top 4 with possible 3rd place contender. Nothing above though
>>66427206
>similar to Wlad v. Povetkin, the only time Povetkin has looked ridiculous.
Wlad didn't beat Povetkin due to a size advantage or "fighting tall", he beat him by just blatantly cheating, pushing his head down and buying off the ref to get away with it. Wilder won't have this advantage as the fight will be in Povetkin's backyard.
I don't like Deontay Wilder. I hate how he acts childish and its not a good look for a HW champion. That being said I can see him beating every top current heavyweight (Povetkin, Fury, Ortiz, Wlad). His power is overrated but he has range, workrate, boxing ability, and something Fury and Wlad lack - stamina.
If Wilder beats Povetkin in Moscow then he def deserves credit in my book.
>>66427319
seeing him beating every top current heavyweight doesn't say anything. Anyone can defeat anyone once they are there at the top, given some circumstances. What matters is the likeliness of that happening and, obviously, the reality of it happening. Ye, I could also see that Finnish strong puncher KO anyone in the HW division through a bit of luck, doesn't make him the best heavyweight. Likewise, this applies to Wilder.
He deserves credit if he beats Povetkin, but not top 1 level credit. Top 4 or Top 3 is generous enough.
>>66427344
Helenius knocking out anyone in the HW division? He only has 13 KOs from 22 wins. You just posted about the likeliness of something happening and then posted something that's very unlikely to happen.
Wilder is definitely a top 3 hw. Why not? Who could you have ahead of him? Ortiz?
This guy from Spain might be the worst post I've ever seen on /sp/
>>66427177
If Wilder beats Povetkin I'll rate him as the real deal and a legitimate world class contender yes. Should be a great fight either way hopefully.
>>66427517
on the contrary, I consider it unlikely to happen. But it's probable. Yes, Ortiz.
>>66427533
shut up, nigger
>>66427517
ortiz would heem wilder within 3 rounds
Any pics or gif of steph curry ringside?
>>66427591
>>66427605
Ortiz is a one trick pony. His left straight wouldn't even reach Wilder's chin. And he would get busted for roids again anyway.
>>66425640
>>66424635
Nobody has the right to stop a fighter who punches back.
Those are the rules, okay? If you don't like it go watch badminton.
>>66427619
I'm tempted to download yesterday's fights but can't be bothered to free up hdd space.
>>66427693
The corner, doctor, and ref all have the right to stop a fight at their discretion. Shut up fag.
>>66427923
Where do you download them from?
Old Hopkins definitely beats Ward.
>>66423018
Prichard Colon is still in his coma.
If only his corner knew when to throw in the towel.
>>66427319
Wlad was in Povetkin's backyard when he kept trying to make Povetkin give him a BJ. The fans were booing but the ref didn't do jack shit about the fight. It was a pretty disappointing fight.
>>66428761
>fight total mismatches
>surprised when the bum gets his brains bashed in
UK boxing is such a joke. At some point Eubank will be forced to fight real fighters and he'll get his ass kicked just like every other Britcuck hypejob ever has when they step up.
https://youtu.be/1I9ctm35yO0
wot a fookin' madman!
>>66429255
Like Calzaghe?
Get your rare Curry here
https://youtu.be/BB9kgnknptU?t=729
and your rare Kovalev
https://youtu.be/BB9kgnknptU?t=2402
and again rare Curry
https://youtu.be/BB9kgnknptU?t=3084
>>66429605
lel, I'm watching the replay right now too
>>66428641
WBVA, friend.
>>66429605
thanks m8
>>66429636
is making an account worth it?
>>66429516
Probably the sole exception. Great fighter. I'd throw Lennox in there too but he's not British. He's Jamaican or Canadian or some shit.
>>66429724
If you're on a boxing kick, yeah. Loads of content, very active community with great dedicated cappers. Much better than its mma equivalent. Seriously, mma-tracker is a joke compared to WBVA.
>>66429959
Nigel Benn?
>>66427264
u seriously think hopkins or pascal would beat ward
delusional
>>66427268
>Ortiz
give me a fucking break
Middleweight boxing is about to usher into its GOAT era. Get hype lads. The next couple of years will be really interesting.
>KOVALEV: ANDRE WARD FIGHT "VERY DIFFICULT FOR BOTH OF US, I CAN WIN HE CAN WIN ONLY GOD KNOWS"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n1M2dncMGU
>>66429724
All new fights are go up on RuTracker. Public tracker, no ratio.
>>66430399
They're both far better than Barrera who Ward struggled against. I think they easily beat Ward.
Maybe not Pascal now cuz' Kovalev scrambled his brains. But pre-Kovalev Pascal would definitely beat Ward. And Hopkins is far too sharp for him.
>>66431826
Meanwhile, /box/: GUISE IT'S A SQUASH MATCH AHHA XD I'VE BEEN WATCHING BOXING SINCE MAY-PAC BTW
>>66431853
>Ward struggled against
He won every single round.
>>66431853
>struggled against
End this meme.
>>66431853
>who War struggled against
bullshit. He humiliated him despite being the smaller man who just recently jumped up in the division.
>pre-Kovalev Pascal would definitely beat Ward
>Hopkins would beat Ward
hahahahaha
>>66431826
this man talks sense
>>66431856
I said it all the time it's a 50/50, anyone else rating it anything worse than a 60/40 for either is a retard.
>>66432080
>>66431853
and just as note, it's not the fact that you claim that Pascal and Hopkins would be able to beat Ward, it's the confidence with which you claim that which makes you look like a retard. And quoting Hopkins' sharpness against Ward, even though Ward is younger and is one of the sharpest boxers out there?
>>66419846
Russians are white.
Weekend after next boys. Valdez, Selby, Johsua, and Pac all favorites.
>>66427674
>implying wilder has the ring smarts to keep ortiz out for more than 5 seconds
kek he will chimp out and try to fight him toe to toe
>>66432158
>slavs
>white
kek
>>66432516
>watching Pacman in anything other than Super Bantamweight
>>66432740
>Not watching his fights with Marquez
>>66432867
>watching DUDEMARQUEZGETSROBBEDLOL
>>66432955
>Trying this hard to be edgy
>>66432955
>robbed
Reminder that Pac won the first fight.
>>66432740
>not watching his insane run up the weight classes
>not watching him light up de la hoya
le tips fedora man
>>66435026
This asshole will agree to the fifth fight by the end of the year, mark my words.
>>66435049
This was so shocking to watch live. Legendary fight.
>>66435049
>Not showing the angle where JMM clearly steps on his foot
>>66435110
He not gettin' up, Jim! He not gettin' up!
>>66431845
>signing up for a community college course to learn Russian to download fights
forget it m8
>>66435113
PACTARD
>>66435049
>>66436137
JMM got me into boxing. It's an actual thing that happened.
>>66429447
MAD
A
N
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDgZWy4u4ZI/
ayylmao
>>66436328
its a pactards argument designed to take credit away from marquez. also it ignores all the times pac stepped on marquez and other fighters feet. stepping on each others feet naturally tends to happen when you fight a south paw. anyone who ever brings up the foot argument is instantly a pactard and a casual.
>>66444898
Isn't he supposed to have a warrant for his arrest?
>>66451747
In Cincinnati. He's in DC right now. Once he goes back he'll get arrested.
>Ward only got 1M viewers on HBO
is he finished?
GGG got 1.3M fighting Monroe Jr.
Just watched it. Wow Ward looked like hot garbage. The jump in weight shows, his workrate has slowed down tremendously, he wasn't setting up his power shots, just swinging wildly. He even resorted to cheap shots at the end of rounds which is something he's never done before.
Ward only landed some opportunity counter shots cause of Sullivan's sloppy as shit defense. Put this same Ward against Bad Chad and its a much different fight.
Anyway not only does Kovalev beat Ward but he knocks him out.
Also it was pretty disgusting HBO and Roy Jones dicksucking of Ward. "He's throwing homerun left hooks in there even when they're not landing." KEK
>>66419849
Sullivan is the same height as Kovalev and Ward was flailing left hooks all night. The ones he did land, save for the knockdown did no damage at all. And Kova fights tall and uses spacing very effectively. Kovalev has supreme defense.
>>66419875
It's not 50/50. I'd say it's closer to 80/20 after how awful Ward looked against Sullivan. He looked finished. Kovalev is going to retire him. Too much time off and the jump in weight doesn't help at all.
Top kek at the near shutout they're giving to Ward. What a joke. Sullivan scraped more than 1 fucking round in there.
>his favourite current fighter isnt Eubz
based KO from the Brook-Biziers undercard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKuQpAbSHdY
Is just box
>>66461622
>andy townsend
>>66460079
>he thinks Kovalev will win
Just remember this after Ward cruises to a UD: you don't know shit about boxing
>>66470189
Nice argument faggot. Fuck off back to your TMT general now.
>>66459202
>Ward's never been dirty before
Nah. He's always punched people in the nuts and headbutted people trying to open up cuts. Got away with it too.
>Povetkin/Wilder set for May
GOAT!
>>66456066
>GGG got 1.3M fighting Monroe Jr.
Divided by 10 maybe
>tfw you will never see prime Martinez vs Golovkin
>>66430427
he'll take out klitchko with ease. only fury gives him a few problems
>>66479611
that wouls have been something. Tough fight to call
>>66478777
the one vs. Lemieux on PPV, maybe
>>66456066
ward was never that popular
>>66485067
Based on who they've fought, I'd give the edge to Martinez.
Golovkin needs the fight with Canelo badly to turn him into a superstar desu
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/14922956/ranking-top-25-pound-pound-boxers-25-years
25. Terry Norris
24. Gennady Golovkin
23. Winky Wright
22. Naseem Hamed
21. Miguel Cotto
20. Roman Gonzalez
19. Wladimir Klitschko
18. Erik Morales
17. Andre Ward
16. James Toney
>24. Gennady Golovkin
>mfw
Fucking kek.
Thought Klitschko would be higher desu
>>66490802
Andre Ward at 17???
>>66419846
Are you actually retarded
>>66419899
Algieri is definitely white you fucking mong
>>66420037
And Tyson Fury is also definitely white. What the fuck is this dude on?
>>66423753
oh god is that actually a thing
fucking england
>>66427089
Hopkins would beat Andre Ward. You're a dipshit.
>>66490802
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/14969734/ranking-top-25-pound-pound-boxers-25-years
15-11
15. Shane Mosley
14. Joe Calzaghe
13. Marco Antonio Barrera
12. Lennox Lewis
11. Felix Trinidad
>Lennox Lewis not in the top 10
Fucking disgrace, Mike Tyson better not be in that top 10 if Lewis isn't
http://www.boxingscene.com/theophane-makes-weight-broner-comes-heavy--102952
Adrien Broner weighed in over the limit for his fight against Theophane kek.
Has 2 hours to shed 0.4 lbs
>>66427693
You're god damned right.
>>66429959
Lennox seems to be a genuine Brit that just spent a while in Canada.
>>66495782
AYYY MANE
>>66432516
Timothy Bradley is going to win the shit out of this fight
>>66432550
I know Ortiz hasn't had THAT many big fights. But I don't think you're giving him enough credit. Dude's built like a fucking Ox and still has good footwork. He hits like a truck. I don't think Wilder can escape from Ortiz.
>>66495767
Top 10 must be Pac May RJJ Tyson Holyfield Vitali ODLH ... Bradley? Marquez? Hopkins?
>>66490802
>Terry Norris' era of middleweights
absolutely based best era for middleweights apart from the 50s
>>66470189
kill yourself you fucking casual
>>66490802
>Putting Miguel Cotto ahead of Golovkin
I mean, I know people think Golovkin is overrated, but what the fuck is that shit
>>66496179
I think the ones you listed bar Bradley and Vitali will make up the top 10. Not sure who those 2 will go to, perhaps Pernell Whittaker and/or Chavez sr.
Don't think Holyfield or Tyson should be ahead of Lewis, Lewis was superior to both
>>66496235
that shit is Lemeuix being GGG's best win
>>66496235
GGG fights bums. cotto has fought legit greats
>>66490802
>#P4Prank
>P4P Prank
Get it. It's a joke.
I knew they agreed to have one match and then schedule again but I never understood why Golovkin would even accept that deal and I wondered how much power he had to force the issue with that fat fuck Sulaiman
If Africa Mumbasa here is right then I really don't understand what Golovkin is thinking
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0tovxuQasI8 [Open]
Thoughts?
>>66495782
>Adrien "The Weight Problem" Broner
he never came back for the re-weigh, so title no longer on the line
>>66496205
>casual
>thinks le power punching russian will win against the p4p #1
y d k s a b
>>66495521
He's probably an insecure nigger.
Because he realizes white people really are the master race.
Who /KingKhan/ here?
https://youtu.be/pomhSzNOir8
tyson is that guy
Who Ward > Kovalev > GGG here?
>>66508604
Shut up, Omar.
>>66490802
Clinchko is at the bottom, where he belongs
>>66508526
Khan will get btfo by Canelo
>this new 4chan format
>>66508604
P4P may be, but at this very moment Kovalev > Ward = Golovkin. Still, P4P Kovalev would be the third best and Golovkin probably the first.
Golovkin is very overrated and underrated at the same time. The majority of non-biased "muh fuck whitey" professionals in boxing will tell you GGG is THE real deal, because you can see it in his fights, whether he fights A+ competition or not. His sparring sessions, versatility, chin, accuracy, power and incredible stamina make him a total machine.
To sum up: he punches as hard as Kovalev at a lower weight category, he has an iron chin if not the best at the moment in boxing out of the top fighters, he has better stamina, he is more versatile than Kovalev, his amateur career simply shits on almost any of the professional fighters' right now. All the problems regarding him are about promotion and him not having top competition to fight. But I'm quite sure he'd humiliate top competition too, slick bruvas or not. In fact, I'm not even excited for the GGG-Canelo fight, because I can tell you Golovkin will bully Canelo into submission. Probably even Lara-GGG would be more exciting for me.
>>66511940
however he's overrated when people say something like he's a GOAT material, because to be a GOAT you really need a good resume and he doesn't have that.
Also kek at all black American or black cucks in general who like Ward so much, when his mother was black and left him very soon after he was born and was completely raised by a white father who he loves the most. Fuck, the dude behaves whiter than many whites. Yet blacks perceive him as some sort of "black hope".
K E K
E
K
>>66428140
Not while the fight is competitive. Ie both guys are punching.
rate Kovalev's tweets. Is an athlete a philosopher?
>>66511940
Still has to beat Canelo though, just to get that name on his record.
Not really sure how he'd handle going up in weight, he's not a particularly big middleweight, would be interesting to see how he'd fare against someone with a clear height/reach advantage
>>66512201
10/10
>>66512226
yes, going up in weight would actually be very interesting. I dont think there is anyone 160 or below who can really bring a very competitive fight with GGG. He probably will never be a LHW, but of course at the end of the career he will be SMW and then probably go to UFC when he's 40+ and destroy everyone there.
>>66495767
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/14969842/ranking-top-25-pound-pound-boxers-25-years
10-6
10. Ricardo Lopez
9. Juan Manuel Marquez
8. Pernell Whittaker
7. Evander Holyfield
6. Oscar de la Hoya
My prediction for the top 5 is in this order:
5. Bernard Hopkins
4. Julio Cesar Chavez
3. Roy Jones Jr
2. Manny Pacquiao
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
I will be triggered if they put Pacquiao above Mayweather
>>66511940
Canelo's people know this so they'll duck as long as possible or fight a reason not to fight him at all.
Not sure about him being better than Kovalev, but they're both pretty fucking good so I wouldn't argue.
I never bought into the Ward hype. A lot of badly reffed fights and cherrypicks in the Super 6 gave him more credit than he's worth. He's nothing more to me than a basic spoiler that's been protected by refs and judges. I'd take either GGG or Kova to knock him out.
>>66512001
He's definitely GOAT material. Its not his fault no big names wanna fight him. It should bear out eventually. He's obviously one of the best mw's to come along in a long time.
I mean, shit, they used to hype Jermain Taylor and Kelly Pavlik at one point ffs. And they didn't really beat anyone either. Seems like GGG's held to a different standard for some reason.
>>66514096
Ward is dirty, but an entertaining type of defensive fighter. He's technically godly though and versatile and can adjust hm well. The guy got golden medal in Olympics, what else do we need to say? He beat Kessler, Froch, humiliated Chad Dawson.
On paper and having watched his "prime" he was no doubt better than what we've seen from Kovalev and GGG. He defeated 3 elite fighters, mate, in their prime. So don't talk shit. Also there is nothing badly reffed about the fights except that he should have been penalized. He still got the majority of the rounds in all those fights, so it wouldn't have changed much.
Only reason why I say a Kovalev fight is a 50/50 for him is because he's the smaller fighter. He went up a division, he's fighting now bigger guys. Bigger guys with a great KO rate who throws like 80-100 punches a round in his prime. He may very well KO Ward. I haven't ruled out of all scenario an early KO, as incredible as it may sound.
I also haven't ruled out a Ward KO of Kovalev. I know it was in amateur, but Kovalev HAS been knocked out cold, it just took the right moment. He has a chin, a very good one, but it's for some reason vulnerable.
Likewise, I haven't ruled out a Kovalev UD. Very underrated boxer, hasn't even shown all the tricks in his bag going by what I've seen of his training footages. Not that he will outbox Ward from a technical standpoint, but he will land more precisely because his technique isn't shabby at all, so he might outpoint him.
>>66514198
Jermain Taylor beat Bernard Hopkins though. There was some reason behind his hype
You can't call Golovkin a hype job and claim Kovalev isn't
>this Kovalev obsessed paella cunt
>>66512001
>behaves white
He hangs out with a lot of niggers and he acts kinda like one sometimes.
>>66512436
what the fuck does this even mean?
>>66515271
I didnt call GGG a hype job though, get your narrative straight, yankie
And Kovalev is cool because of his personality, how the fuck can you not like the guy
I only now watched highlights from Ward's performance against Sullivan, will watch the whole thing later, but from what I've seen so far Ward didn't look particularily impressive. Was he getting caught so much or those were shots cherrypicked for highlights purposes?
What time is Broner vs Ashley?
>>66514198
Those were awful fights. "prime" hopkins was shit.
>>66514569
>humiliated dawson
Yeah, at 168 after Dawson had been Ko'd
The Froch fight was meh. I didn't see anything dominating about it. Just a shitty decision. Kessler was headbutted into submission and the fight had 80 something clinches.
A proper ref not in front of his hometown would've definitely penalized him if not outright disqualify him.
Dawson had previously been damaged by Stevenson if my memory serves me right and coming down in weight totally fucked him. Ward is a mirage. He also had the easiest run in the super 6 due to all fights at home and being allowed to duck Dirrell and face some journeybum replacements.
As for him being smaller. He's not smaller. He was big for 168, which also helped him win there. He'll be fighting guys his own size now and as we saw with even a pedestrian guy like Barrera, it doesn't look good for him.
>>66519027
Dawson fought Stevenson after Ward.
Dawson also was the one who said he'd go down in weight to fight Ward
Time is AB fighting?
>>66519053
It was a bad move on Dawsons part. He probably got desperate and thought he could make 168 when he clearly couldn't do it. Big mistake.
Point remains, Ward had a lot of help to make him undefeated and his fights are clearly rigged.
>>66522676
>criticize Ward's resume
>GGG is GOAT guys!
"Boxing" fans in 2016
>"people" who have GGG in their top 5 P4P
Adrien "I'll take him out before round 5" Broner
>>66513414
pacquiao shouldnt even be top 5
Adrien "The Weight Problem" Broner just said that this is his last fight at 140. He's moving up to 147 because he can't make weight any more.
Why was that fight stopped, looked like Theophane was telling the ref he got hit with a low blow.
Which it blatantly was.
>>66527608
His problem is that he clearly doesn't take his training very seriously.
For all everyone liked to shit on Mayweather for acting like a nigger (that's what I think it is anyway, just an act), he has an unbelievable work ethic
>>66425328
>Fuck that CaneLOL vs lil G bullshit
Those are equal fighters to Ward- Kovalev though.
Niggers box the same way, so I would love to watch GGG- Konelo or Kovalev- GGG or Kovalev- Canelo more than any of the fight with a nigger envolved.
>>66427177
Actually he can beat shit out of Povetkin since he's much much faster, has a strong punch and advantage in the distance. Povetkin is all about combinations in the short distance.
Fury vs. Klinchncheatko 2 WHEN???????
>>66533945
This summer sometime.
It will probably be at Wembley, and Carl "80000 people at Wembley" Froch will be there to remind us of that time he fought George Groves in front of 80000 people at Wembley
>>66533945
>anyone other than Tys
>ever landing a glove on him
pick one
>>66533945
>taller than opponent
>chin wide open for a counter shot
>goes for a body shot
madman
>>66533945
I actually wouldn't mind a rematch as long as a) it's in the UK and b) Wlad grows some balls and takes it to Fury
>>66513414
Why? Mayweather doesn't even belong on the list. #1 is going to be Arturo Gatti.
>>66535073
Quality bantz m8
>>66533945
Is he actually displaying good defense, or is he just a foot taller than his opponent so he's just being retarded and moving and his opponent not being able to hit him?
>>66536272
He's a foot taller and showing good defense, not retarded. His opponent doesn't land a shot on him and he answers with a clean body shot although I would have gone for the chin.
Also I don't see Wlad winning the rematch.
>>66536272
well, first of all the nigger wasn't displaying good offense.
>>66513414
Pacquiao has had many, many more fights with greater fighters than Mayweather has.
>>66540410
>Pacquiao has had many, many more fights with greater fighters than Mayweather has.
He has more fights with them because he lost or won disputed decisions.
In terms of names on their records, the only major difference is that Pacquiao fought Barrera and Morales whereas Mayweather fought Gennaro Hernandez.
Also consider that Pacquiao's victories against de la Hoya, Hatton and Mosley came after Mayweather was finished with them
>>66540956
A disputed decision is better than having not fought them.
Mosley, ODLH, and Hatton aren't anything special during the time that either fighter fought them. You also have to consider than Mayweather fought the same gusy Pacquiao fought but Pacquiao is a much smaller fighter than Mayweather.
>>66541262
Who hasn't Mayweather fought that would have been a realistic fight to have actually occured?
Mosley had just spanked Margarito and was labelled by Freddie Roach as being too dangerous for Pacquiao before he fought Mayweather.
Hatton was objectively one of the top p4p boxers in the 2-3 years before fighting Mayweather.
I will grant you that de la Hoya was past his prime when Mayweather fought him, however in that fight, de la Hoya was the one dictating terms, so the gloves they used were like pillows etc.
And vis a vis the weight thing, yes, true, but Pacquiao also fought at catchweights and de la Hoya hadn't fought at welterweight for about 7 years before the Pacquiao fight.
I am not disputing Pacquiao being an all time great boxer, just that Mayweather had a superior career.
>>66540410
>>66540956
I think its clear that mayweather is the superior boxer. Pound for pound mayweather was the king. But pacquaio had way more exciting and meaningful carreer. Way more dramatic and all around a greater fighter.
>>66541596
Amir Khan instead of Maidana, and of course the blatant Pacquiao duck for like 7 years.
>>66541668
Amir Khan talked himself out of the fight with Mayweather.
And Bob Arum's grudge against Mayweather is the reason the fight with Mayweather never happened earlier
>>66541720
Mayweather made a poll on his website about who to fight next. It was between Maidana and Khan. Khan won the poll but still didn't get the fight. Then after that Khan just spent 2 years trying to get the fight.
I don't see how you can blame bob arum when he fought Cotto who was under top rank. Why would he do business with bob arum for the Cotto fight but not the pacquiao fight. Doesn't make sense.
>>66541596
Mayweathers pre-ODLH career is what made him an ATG. I don't know why you focus on everything after that. Are there better fights that could easily have taken place during that time? Fuck yes and only a very biased person would say otherwise.
>>66541820
Cus it wasn't till the ODLH fight he become the major attraction he is now.
Tbf mayweather fought tons of great fighters, its impossible for him to fight literally everyone you want. His track record is pretty good tho.
>>66541920
Star power has nothing to do with ATG'ness.
It has nothing to do with wanting to fight everyone I want him to fight at the perfect time. It has everything to do with every great challenge that could have happened during his 19 year career it was avoided. He spent his entire career fighting good fighters but no great ones. He ranks right beside Larry Holmes for me.
