What players are seriously overrated? I don't mean people like Torres who used to be GOAT and just lost it or someone overrated by a small group of fans. I mean someone who's played in top teams despite clearly being way below the level needed
>Manchester United
>Real Madrid
>Marseille
>Argentina
>can barely play football
Julien Faubert when he was at Real Madrid
This thread could pretty much be about David Luiz
>>66339641
He got instantly exposed unlike Heinze, Demichelis or Luiz who keep playing despite being shit
>>66339601
>Casemiro for whatever reason.
>Mascherano
>Busquets
>Lucas (PSG)
>Sakho (Liverpool)
>lots of players in serie a
>>66339689
>busquets
Are you baiting?
He's the best DM in the world rn
>>66339733
doesn't mean he cant be overrated by a group of fans. even when he plays like absolute shit people defend him. i agree hes the best at his role atm. but how many others can you mention, that plays his exact role?
motta? xabi alonso whenever pep decides to line up normally?
Basically
>>66339632
why you don't list the club where he played the most, ie psg? he was great there
Demichelis is not overrated. Demichelis is finished. He had his moment and now, instead of playing at the MLS or his town team, he plays in an EPL and UCL "contender".
He should have retired like 5 years ago.
>>66339689
>Busquets
Nah. That under-rated meme from like 2011 is dead now. He's rated where he should be. Barca show a considerabe drop when he's not on the pitch.
Arsenal, Madrid and so many other teams would kill this guy. Probably best Midfielder in the world right now.
Masch is a clutch defender and has been solid this season. No one is really overrating him. Unless they are saying he is top 5 or something.
>David Luiz
>Fabien Barthez
>Francisco Pavon
>Oleguer
>>66339764
Fuck off, he's a very good full back
>>66339764
>everyone says hes shit
>somehow overrated at the same time
he was good when he played regularly. but i assume u havent been watching football for more than 5 years
>>66339768
Demichelis stepped up that season Kompany began to drop off. After that red card/penalty vs Barca he was great. Since then though you're probably right.
>>66339689
>Busquets
stop posting
>>66339641
OP said seriously overrated, not literally who mocked by everyone.
Literally the leftback version of David Luiz
Eden Hazard
>>66339776
Like I said, I agree that he's the best at his role, but how many other players plays that exact role?
My point is even when he plays like fucking shit, people wont ever mention him. They'll say Pique made a mistake or Ter Stegen is shit.
People ARE saying Mascherano is top5. Leddit sucks his cock too
>>66339806
Demichelis was already almost finished at Malaga, Simeone took him for free because >muh spirit knowing that he was going to be just a secondary player that won't play any relevant game because of Godin-Miranda.
Then City under Pellegrini request bought him two weeks later kek
>>66339816
>>66339776
>>66339733
kinda proves me point, especially the guy getting two (You)'s
>>66339844
What role? A defensive midfielder in a 4-3-3? Plenty players play it and not a single one of them comes close to Busquets
>>66339859
No, it doesn't. I could write Messi and I'd get replies calling me a retard.
But that would mean I'm a retard, not that I'm right.
>>66339860
Who then? Mention players other than Motta and Xabi from good clubs. Kroos?
Literally no one else.
>>66339859
Spouting bullshit and then getting replies because what you said was plain wrong doesn't make you right.
>>66339879
Thing is though, you're now comparing Messi to Busquets. Busquets is the best at his role, but people saying hes the best midfielder in the world are fucking retarded.
Iniesta and Modric are both twice the footballer Busquets is.
Using Barca's form without Busq on the pitch is moronic. You could do the same with Real's form without Modric.
>>66339844
come on, one dude on Reddit does not mean "people". He was top 5 at the WC.
>>66339844
People can see when Busquets under performs, because Barca suffers. There are no players who play that role. Madrid tried to force Kroos to do it, Man United have tried Scneiderlin, Schweinstiger even Fellaini, Arsenal are desperate for so desperate for one they are forcing Coquelin through.
>>66339859
how does it prove your point? maybe you are underating him. And now who has two (You)s
>>66339756
Busquets is the perfect combination of great passing and defensive strength. Players like Pirlo, Alonso (nowadays) or Kroos are only great at passing and can't defend and DMs like Casemiro can defend but their passing is average.
>Le headers and red cards man
Literally Ryan Shawcross tier
>>66339922
>fucking retarded.
Who is a better midfielder than Busquets.
>>66339883
jorginho
toulalan
marchisio
the list could go on...
Matic
The definition of being overrated.
>>66339881
he's exceptional on the ball though
>>66339883
Casemiro, Carrick, Weigl, Jorginho, De Rossi, Gary Medel, Toulalan, Marchisio - some of the top of my head.
inb4 hurr they're different players from Busquets.
They are because none of them has the passing ability and awareness of Busquets which allows him to be much more than a simple DM
>>66339938
>Casemiro can defend but their passing is average.
he should start imho
>>66339952
I listed two right below that line. But hey I guess it sums up your view on football pretty nicely
>>66339958
no, you see, it doesn't. juve play 3-5-2 and marchisio's role in that system is nothing like busquets
>>66339883
Verratti has 3 busquets in each feet
>>66340023
Xhaka has a similar role
>>66339689
Sakho looked really good against Man U but that could just be bc their forwards are ass
>>66340007
>that list
football manager tier
>>66340044
okay, one.
![1-77[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4PQDlNy.jpg "1-77[1].jpg")
doesn't play in a top team anymore but still
>>66340050
anyone can look good in the PL m8
>>66340050
being overrated doesn't mean you aren't good. he's good at some things, his tackling and headers are great, but he's a huge liability with his passing and his technique is laughable. yet i still hear countless liverpool fans praise his technique and list his 86% passing accuracy as a proof of him being a good passer
>>66340073
>that post
FIFA Career Mode tier
>>66339764
He was pretty good until he got old.
>>66340126
well there is no point in trying to argue with you when you list players from teams who play other formations along with players who are literally substitutes for their respective clubs.
this fucking richie hawtin looking motherfucker is the worst offender
Alexis
>>66340202
All of them regularly play as a DM in a 4-3-3 or have the capability of playing there
>Juventus
>Arsenal
>Wolfsburg
>>66340238
No, no they dont. Casemiro has played there on occasion. But they played 4-2-3-1 when Benitez was there.
Carrick is a substitute or injured half the time.
Juve play 3-5-2 etc.
Pogba, Cristiano, Bale..
Zidane, Scholes, Romario and Recoba to name just a few
Messi
>avid user of PEDs but he'll never get caught because he plays for barca
>played with the same players his whole life (these players also happened to be the spine of a world cup winning team)
>can't perform for argentina because there's no xavi and iniesta and chipped through balls
>>66340353
you didnt even see romário you mong
>>66340284
>Casemiro has played there on occasion. But they played 4-2-3-1 when Benitez was there.
And Benitez was there for a grand total of 6 months. He played there all the time for Porto and quite regularly under Zidane
>Carrick is a substitute or injured half the time.
He's 2nd in league Premier League minutes played for United CMs
>Juve play 3-5-2 etc.
They often play 4-3-3 or a diamond (which features a very similar role)
Try again
>>66340353
go to bed. how would you know if romario was overrated when you never saw him play
>>66340389
> Le score a 1000 goals in the Brazilian youth leagues man.
He only had one season where he produced in a top league and people claim he is one of the all time greats.
>>66340404
>a grand 6 months
yes, exactly, and when he was fired zidane put him on the bench.
>often
no
>carrick is 2nd jajajajja
yes, and how did they line up against city?
4-2-3-1.
>try again xD
>>66339768
>He had his moment
'no'
I dont remember seeing him play well once, i was surprised when he didnt retire after he got humiliated by Milito
henry
giroud
sagna
payet
>>66340450
You're either completely clueless or baiting (I'd wager on the first). United LITERALLY played a 4-3-3 with Carrick as the DM, Schneiderlin and Lingard in front of him and Mata/Martial on the wings.
Either way, there's no real point in arguing with you.
Beckham
The current overuse of the argument that Beckham was underrated because his fame made him so overrated, now makes him overrated.
He has completed a full rating wave period
>>66340448
Not scoring 1000 doesn't mean he's shit either
He was a prolific goalscorer
>pichichi
>la liga
>ucl final
>ucl top scorer
>eredivisie 3x
>eredivisie top scorer 3x
>world cup
Sergio Ramos
>>66339764
Arbeloa was fucking great in his prime, fuck off Yank
I always thought Gilberto Silva was shit just made a decent tackle once or twice
>>66340354
>Messi, 5'7: wah wah i'll never grow again gib me hgh for four years
>Maradona, 5'5: eh
and people wonder why Argentinians love Diego
>>66341079
Are you retarded?
Genuinely asking
There is no bigger fraud in modern football than Eden Hazard. I'm just glad he's getting found out this season.
>zero (0) goals in 2015-16
>>66339632
He was good you fuck. Or are u saying RM, Machester United, and Argentina had no idea what they were talking about. ...
>>66341314
Does anyone around here know why Hazard turned from breddy-gud-tier to utter shit in the span of a single summer break?
He literally turned into a caricature of an offensive midfielder, just dribbling around without a tangible end product.
>>66343647
he misses eva
>>66339819
He is great in attack, his defending is shit though
>>66343647
he is a lazy fuck who doesn't work, just look how he became chubby.
Yaya Toure this season and last season
I guess no one mentioned him because he already got exposed as a complete fraud but I couldn't beleive it when Liverpool paid over 10 million for him after flopping in three mayor teams and having a handful of good games in his whole career
>>66343360
I'm saying he had a great agent and a big set if balls but surely not enough to play for those clubs (to be fair with the lack of good left backs, it makes a little bit of sense)
>>66340091
and yet he has done well in real madrid and united
>>66339756
you actually got me thinking and i have never seen a bad game by busquets
>>66340208
>le world class one match per season man
>>66345896
He didn't flop at Milan you dumb fuck.
>>66346143
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/silvio-berlusconi-mario-balotelli-rotten-4431648
When the owner calls you a "rotten apple" and publicly says he's glad he got rid of you, you're usually considered a flop. He did score quite a few penalties in his first 6 months (only thing he's really good at) but then played like shit for a year
>>66346175
He last spell at Milan was his most consistent desu
He was always shit but he was floppier at other clubs, suffice to say that 1 and a half year was his best.
>>66339993
He's not.
Fancy tricks look awesome to 13yo kids, but he really lacks in first touch, orientated control and decision quality with it.
>>66340453
I fap to this every night.
This is why people shouldn't be allowed to have opinions. All that is in this thread is people posting players that they don't like, not actual overrated shit cunts like OP asked for.
You're all autistic faggots that should kill themselves.
>>66346954
That's van Buyten not Demichelis though.
>>66346954
Gotta love inter Milito.
>now you remember when inter was good
>>66339689
>>Mascherano
>>Busquets
m8 what
>>66339667
So much fucking this.
I honestly can not understand how he played so many years for Manure.
The only thing I remember him from is being eaten alive by a 18yo Ronaldo that made Manure buy him.
>Walcott
>Gervinho
>Nasri
>>66346143
>Milan
which one?
>>66347713
He was a squad player, necessary for the number of cup games Utd used to play
>>66347713
Young O'Shea 19-22 was clutch as fuck. He was tall, skillful and was great at tackling and could use both feet. Was comfortable on the left or right or through the middle. Looked like the complete player. It was obvious why Ferguson persisted with him. He had loads of ability.
As he got older, Ferguson kind of ruined him as an individual to benefit the team as he was moved around from midfield to CB to LB and on the wing. The result was he became a jack of all trades master of none.
It's pretty obvious why he was kept around though, he could fit in anywhere and do a solid 7/10 job. RB out? Never mind play O'Shea. CB out? Never mind, play O'Shea. Nobody left to play CM? Play O'Shea.
In fact, he's the sort of player that United desperately need now to cover for all their missing defenders. Blind is the closest thing United have to O'Shea now.
Also
>Figo nutmeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gasxpPiews
>>66339993
in the same way that memphis depay is 'exceptional' on the ball, yeah
>>66347713
I remember arguing with a manure fan in another thread who claimed he was the best cb in Europe around 2010. I honestly hope for his sake he was baiting
David Luiz has to be #1
He somehow managed to get a transfer to Chelsea, played utterly shit. Got humiliated by everyone to the point that he was actually subbed off at half-time in 2 separate games against Manchester United after being totally exposed. Finished right? No way back from this, right? Best he can hope for is running out his contract and getting a free transfer to Portgual or Turkey where he can pick up 10k a week, right?
WRONG.
He gets a world record £50 million transfer to PSG, probably a massive pay increase and he somehow keeps his place in the Brazil national squad.
>7-1
I mean, I get that he's quite talented on the ball. And if he was a 16-17 year old he could probably develop into a pretty decent winger or something. But as a defender? Fucking hell. I wouldn't even take him for free.
>>66340007
Marchisio is not a DM
>>66347836
>Admitting to being baited this hard
O'Shea barely even played in 2010, he came on for the last 5 mins a few times and that was it.
>>66347836
how would that work when he was clearly behind rio, vidic and evans in the pecking order? how can you fall for that shit.
jon obi mikel
Obi Mikel
>>66347911
>>66347920
Hahaha hivemind.
>>66347865
>>66339667
Came here to post this. Good job /sp/
Guti
>>66339689
I know you are trying to bait but mascherano is the most horribly overrated player I've seen in my entire life, and I saw saviola in barcelona
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