Are these two teams elite?
>>64112250
no
they are top 20, but dont stand a chance if they have to face a real top 5 club
>Literally the Arsenals of their respective leagues
>>64112325
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top chockers
>>64112250
Elite memes desu
>neverkusen
>drawma
Gets me everytime
>>64112308
Roma and Bayer drew Barca at home lad.
>>64112325
At least Arsenal and Roma won their league once upon a time.
Alwayslosen managed to get second place in three different tournaments in one season and the same year their German NT players lost a WC final. They are the Russia campaign of football, doomed to choke from the very start.
Never have they ever stood a chance, fortune and fate hate that painkiller club.
All I wanted was Neverkusen to advance and play Real Madrid where Chicharito would score the winning goal.
Roma would be much better with a decent manager
We're talking about a club that registered a trademark on its derisive nicknames like Neverkusen and Vizekusen.
The small club mentality, choke artist and loser way of thinking is literally their club identity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverkusen
>barca hasn't had 26 shots on their goal in the last 10 years
>leverkusen still can't score more than 1
>>64112250
They are the most elite chokers.
Fail-to-deliverkusen has to be the least clutch team of all time. I almost feel bad for them at this point senpai
>mfw Leverkusen literally and unironically means "the liver pussy" in Danish
>>64112325
I reckon a fully fit arsenal would beat these teams
>>64114050
Roma's team is probably as good as Arsenal's (or nearly), but their manager is absolute shit tier.