-21 races confirmed for next year
-GP2 is becoming Formula 2
-Jaguar wants to buy Silverstone
-Mercedes will win every single race
-McLaren on eternal suicide watch
-Only 108 days until the Aussie Grand Prock!
i have way too many f1 backgrounds tbqh
>>63962295
nothing will beat king felipe tho :))
So why is plasma flow control banned?
Does the FIA hate going fast?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYb37k3L1iQ
>>63962323
>Does the FIA hate going fast?
Yes..
5th for Alonso getting beat by Button again next year.
So /F1/, what are your bold predictions for next season?
>>63962472
-Williams is closer to Ferrari than Ferrari are to Merc
-Toro Rosso is faster than Red Bull
-Manor and Haas are as fast as each other, both ahead of Sauber
-McLaren are back of the grid
>>63962472
Mercedes will not have the dominant car.
>>63962472
Haas will beat McLaren
>>63962493
I said bold predictions. Of course the McShit box will be back of the grid.
>>63962506
I thought the non-bold prediction was that they'd make up half of the 120hp deficit they have to mercedes?
>>63962496
That is somewhat bold. What's the definition of dominant though? I mean I still think they'll take the constructors with races to spare but I think Vettel will sneak in more wins on pure pace. It's still gonna be Chocolate Senna Vs. Prostberg though.
>>63962472
williams become the dominant team after fixing their strategy problems, their pitstop problems and their downforce problems
>>63962526
Is there anything Williams don't need to fix?
>>63962532
claire's teeth
>>63962504
I think that is highly likely. >>63962472
My own predictions:
Prostberg wins the title.
Nigger Senna flips the fuck out when he's beaten consistently and tries to get out of his contract with Mercedes at the end of the season or force out 1stberg.
Finger Man takes 2nd in the championship.
The McShit actually improves.
Haas is consistently scoring points with Grosjean but the spick sucks shit.
Manor scores 15 points in the season.
Verstappen has multiple podiums, nearly wins in a wet race.
Maldozer has no crashes that are his fault.
Button dominates Alonso even more than this season.
Alonso quits at the end of the season. (Not really bold.)
Red Bull a total shit with Ilmor engine. Finish 8th in the constructors. The KGB agent beats smiley again.
Williams improve. Massa gets his first win since 2008 with a controversial call that gifts him the lead from Bottas. They also stop fucking about in the pits.
Lotus / Renault are total rubbish.
Force India remain mediocre.
Sauber still sucks dick.
>>63962305
kek, I wouldn't have thought that photo would still be posted almost a year after I took it
I'll try to crown a new king for 2016 in march
I'm convinced Susie Wolff is Allan McNish in a wig.
>>63962472
-Manor will be better than Sauber and Torro Rosso
-McLaren won't be shit and will finish ahead of Sauber, Torro Rosso, Manor and Force India
The first statement I truly believe, the second one is as bold as a statement can get.
>>63962472
Gimi will shock us all and win the WDC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNgxyL5zEAk
>>63962472
Vettel wins the championship before the final race despite Ferrari not having the best car.
Hamilton losing 0.5s to Rosberg is nothing but an act and Rosberg is going to fall off a cliff in 2016, being outscored even by Raikkonen and almost losing to Massa. Rosberg leaves Mercedes at the end of the season, while Hamilton's own relationship with the team deteriorates so much that his position will be in danger as well despite his contract.
Massa wins a race.
Bottas does not win a race.
McLaren will be just behind Williams on pace and comfortably beating the likes of Red Bull.
Manor will not be improving as much as they would hope and will just barely beat Sauber.
>>63962573
>They (Williams) also stop fucking about in the pits.
very bold
>Lotus / Renault are total rubbish.
not bold at all
McLaren will rise to the top with the best driver lineup in the grid...screencap this
http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/car/mclaren-mp4-x/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=MP4X
>>63962628
Forgot to add Leltus/Renault, they will battle for last place with Sauber of course
>>63962472
Conversely, what are you hoping to see next season even if it's unlikely?
>>63962743
Non-Mercedes WDC.
>>63962743
Bottas to win a race, Haryanto in F1, Lotus/Renault run a livery similar to pic related and Verstappen cripple himself
>>63962573
>Maldozer has no crashes that are his fault.
>>63962743
Red Bull somehow makes the best engine by far, so for 2017 everybody wants a Red Bull engine in the back. That would be the toppest of keks in the entire engine saga.
>>63962783
It's not exactly bold considering only one crash this season was his fault.
>>63962472
-Haas fighting with Force India/Aston Martin for 5th
-Manor fights Sauber in the first few races
-McLelren rises to midfield.
- Renault/Lotus a shit
>>63962472
- nobody will bully me
Look who I met in the Amber Lounge on Sunday
Red Bull-TAG confirmed, finally
https://twitter.com/redbullracing/status/672355995256020992
>>63962887
is funny because theres no engine
also
>TAG Heuer still going with #DontCrackUnderPressure
>>63962881
Kill yourself normie
>>63962793
So he's due
>>63962887
Those guys looks like they're trying really hard to figure why the car won't go.
Haven't been paying attention the last few weeks, why is everyone so optimistic about Manor?
>>63962968
because underdog
>>63962968
They have been working on the 2016 car all year long and they will have a 2016 Mercedes engine in the back.
>>63962968
Merc Engine and Williams Drivetrain. It's a step up from their current Drivetrain and Engine.
I think they might take a gamble and build a Car with a very low drag aero so zhey surprise some People in Monza and maybe in Spa. Like FI did in 09
>>63963015
*they
>>63962968
They're doing a bit better financially than this time last year and they'll have a Mercedes engine next year to close the gap.
Though I'm not optimistic like others here. They're still just barely treading water and it seems they've lost a lot of talented senior staff recently.
>>63962968
They got rid of the dead weight in Graeme Lowdon, John Booth and Jules Bianchi
>>63962997
>>63962998
>>63963015
>>63963030
Okay, sounds reasonable, but they still have the smallest budget to work with, and very little appeal to new sponsors. Wish them all the best though, want to see them run circles around Monisha Kaltenshit and the husk of what used to be Sauber.
>>63963039
>Dead Weight
>Bianchi
Kek
>>63963039
>dead weight
>Jules Bianchi
>Changes have been approved by the World Motor Sport Council in regard to the way that tyres are used by teams in order to encourage differing race strategies in 2016. These include:
>- The tyre supplier will now provide three dry-weather compounds instead of two
>- Of the 13 sets of dry tyres available to each driver, the tyre supplier will choose two for the race (only one of which must be used in the race), and one set (the softest available) that may only be used in Q3. Each driver may then choose their remaining ten sets from the three available compounds
>- Unless intermediate or wet-weather tyres have been used, a driver must use at least two different specifications of dry-weather tyres – at least one of these must be the one chosen by the tyre supplier.
Might be cool.
Quick question: why is every female in the F1 circus so fuckable (excluding Monisha obviously)?
Seriously, the PR women and the chicks standing in the garages... King Arthur, would berry.
>>63963125
Bernie sacrifices the uggos to extend his life
>Going to repost these (and any others) before and after testing
>yfw
>>63963153
Will Stevens gets on the podium
and is promptly arrested for trespassing
>>63963159
>will stevens finished third but went missing during the ceremony, allthough he claimed he was there
>>63963169
>We have another Brazil 2003
Stevens finishes third but crashed on the final lap and cannot take the podium as he's in hospital
What's going to happen to Vandoorne?
>>63963183
as honda will be shit again replace alonso
>>63962472
>Ferrari will be on Mercs level, but only VET will do something. RAI will GTFO at the end of season.
>Mercs will sabotage themselves because they won't be able to control ROS and HAM. ROS will start in a better shape, HAM will be cornered and some incident midseason will tear everything apart.
>Williams will still be the 3rd force. MAS and BOT will have one win each. MAS retires at the end of the season and will put NAS in his place.
>Red Bull will struggle with the shitty engine (i'll go with Honda, but who knows) and will be on the same level as Toro Rosso. RIC will do some pretty good shit while KVY will perform average and maybe will be traded somewhere else for VER
>Toro Rosso will often score points with VER, SAI will be butthurt and will play the "muh privileges" card to get the Red Bull upgrade, failing miserably on the process.
>Haas will perform good, maybe scoring points once in a while. GRO will be the 1st driver while GUT will do some wacky shit and will be sacked to give his seat to some burgerfag from Indy
>Manor's major feat will be going to a Q2 in a few races.
The rest will be pretty much the same
>>63963183
I think he'll be racing in Super Formula.
>>63963202
if sainz his car won't break down every other race i think he'll have a very good season next year
>>63962881
>not shopping a gamepad into your photo
Matty you can do better than this
amus:
>Who cares how the Red Bull engine is branded? Technically it will be identical to the Renault engine Lotus is running 2016
>>63963381
He's most likely not wrong.
>'His complaining over the past three races won by Rosberg is said to have grated on senior Mercedes executives and even irritated the engineers close to Hamilton.
>'It seems that Hamilton is testing the patience of the Mercedes hierarchy to the limit. They have spent almost two years attempting to smooth the increasingly fragile relationship between Hamilton and Rosberg'.
Does Hamilton have a knack for alienating those around him? This all sounds very similar to the destruction of his relationship with McLaren from 2011 to the moment he left. By the end of his stay, nobody in the team wanted to support him anymore.
>>63963412
>Does Hamilton have a knack for alienating those around him?
well he can't hold a relationship and he always looks very vapid in his 'look at me hanging out with these famous people'
looks like hes depressed and blames it on the wrong things
>>63963412
last year, a senior team member apparently told andrew benson (i think, or adam cooper) something to the effect of:
>many of us are glad lewis won the championship. it would have been unbareable if nico had, because lewis' reactiin would have been many times worse and a huge headache for the team
would love to find the quote.
>>63963412
quite clear that hamilton is an even bigger cancer to his teams than alonso is.
great driver but seems like a huge babby who can't connect at all with his engineers and team mates.
>>63963422
>>63963436
>>63963490
>nigger in being poor at forming long-term relationship shocker
>>63963490
It's easy to see why he is so obsessed with Alonso while trying to find any excuse imaginable to put Vettel down. Deep down, Hamilton and Alonso have similar problems, while Vettel is more diligent and knows how to bond with those around him, and those two hate that.
>>63963507
>>63963540
Based Seb truly is the savior of f1
>>63963153
I fucked up with the "tier 3 engine" part for Manor, but even then, I don't see them going any higher than the bottom of tier 3. At most they'll be fighting for points early in the season and then gradually drop off.
>>63962584
>But Susie Wolff is slow
In all reality, how quick is she?
>>63962881
Does that man have a cigarette over his ear? But good job for not /neet/ing m8.
Kek, has this been posted here yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7k_-wqzuJc
>>63962945
They are looking for the power in Renault "upgraded" PU.
>>63963974
A lot better than in her DTM days, but still mediocre at best. Her lines were legitimately good at Silverstone in practice in 2014.
>>63963077
What might be cool is to have different front and rear tires, so that a team could have Medium front's and soft rear's for better traction and less front graining or such. Only thing that would suck is the fact that they have so many austimal colors. Would have to get rid of that desu senpai.
>>63963202
Is Nasr really that much better than Felipe baby? Like if he's still preforming as good as or near to Bottas, he brings in Petrobras sponsorship, is a team player and keeps the atmosphere very calm. Why replace him? He seems to be holding onto his pace, I know Bottas had a bunch of issues this year, but honestly I could see him doing better next year. That is if the car is better.
>>63962718
that is some F-Zero shit right there, I liked it.
>>63962887
Tag Heuer is going to put a clock in the place of the engine?
>>63963412
Something I've never been able to fact check, but IIRC while Haug and Lauda were pushing Schumi and Ross out the door, they had to beg Hamilton to come, and he was even going to resign with McLaren until Dennis opened his mouth started to talk about Hamilton honestly.
>tfw Schumi could have been a 9 times WDC.
>I am not ready for these feels /F1/
>>63964024
>f-zero
reeeeeeeee its wipeout
>>63963992
I'm not trying to give her an excuse or something, but I bet the whole "Woman Driver", aspect can really fuck with your head, and headspace is really key. Still however, it must be nice to have a waifu that can drive.
>>63964021
Nasr is considerably worse than Massa, but he has the sponsorship as well as Massa's (good friends + similar sponsorship) and Williams' (having been their test driver last year) backing, and aside from Lynn (who will probably be replacing Bottas at some point), Williams do not have better options available at the moment. If Nasr returns to the team, it'll only happen because Massa's decided to retire, and I can see him doing just that at the end of 2016.
If anything, Massa's the one who's had issues this year - the car always seemed to suit Bottas far better than him, as the lack of low speed grip that characterized this year's car has always been one of Massa's main weaknesses. Bottas's supposed lack of luck this year is also massively overstated, as a lot of his collisions came as a result of his poor judgment and mediocre reactions (easily seen vs Raikkonen or in the many times he's tapped someone on the first lap - Ricciardo is especially guilty of the latter as well).
>>63964068
I honestly feel that Bottas is overrated, I don't think he's the next Hakkinen or Raikkionen. I really think given a car with proper downforce (so what 2017 should be) I could see Felipe easily beating him. Remember something, he nearly won the WDC, just look at Singapore, yes the Ferrari system fucked up, and yes he was given the win at Spa, but he nearly won it.
>>63964034
>>tfw Schumi could have been a 9 times WDC.
If he wanted that, he could just have stayed at Ferrari through '07-'08.
Also, Haug left at the same time as Schumi. Wolff was his replacement. It was Haug leaving that triggered Brawn's departure.
>>63964185
Well he wasn't really able to stay, I guess it was a bit of a inner conflict. He didn't want to race against Kimi, and di Montezemolo was trying to kick him out. Also he would have had to kick out Felipe to get the second seat, and he didn't seem prepared to do that one.
I feel it was a bit of a stab in the back really, even at the end of 06, he was still faster than Kimi, but Luca wanted him like he wanted Hakkinen.
>>63964034
>tfw Schumi could have been a 9 times WDC.
Rosberg beat him (considerably) in his three years he returned to Mercedes. If anything it would have been Rosberg as the 2 time champion, while Schumacher would have been BTFO
>>63964170
I agree. I used to think that him and Ricciardo were almost dead even in terms of skill, but while Ricciardo's only real issue is his aggressive opportunism backfiring on him, Bottas seems extremely stubborn, unwilling to change his lines or his approach and immediately blaming others as soon as he gets the chance to do so.
>>63964247
MSC was considerably less lucky in 2011 and 2012 and would've outscored Rosberg in both years if not for that.
>>63964213
I love that article, but it was written by a man once successfully sued for libel by McLaren. Schumacher's own account in James Allen's books says that he was well aware about the Kimi negotiations happening by August 2005.
>>63964259
At one point in 2012, I remember hearing on Sky that if Schumacher finished in the postion he was in before he retired (Spain only being his fault if that), he would have been leading the WDC.
>>63964277
I could never find it again, I wonder if there was a bit of disbelief on his part. I guess overall I just miss MSC, so I think about what could have been.
>>63964247
Schumacher outscored Rosberg by 47-23 in the last 13 races of 2012, when the Merc reliability was fixed, matched Rosberg 10-10 in quali, and beat him 7-1 in two car finishes.
In 2011 he finished just 12 points behind, despite having 5 DNFs to Rosberg's 2.
It would in no way have been a BTFO
>>63964284
>I could never find it again,
Here: http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=395732&sid=58e5c3e885aafc29613b3a7df643c18d#p395732
As for wanting to race against Raikkonen, Sabine Kehm stated that over the 2005-06 winter, Michael spoke to his close confidants about being excited about the prospect of teaming with Raikkonen and testing himself against a competitive benchmark.
But over the 2006 season, he started feeling fatigued, especially tired of sponsor commitments and marathon debrief sessions, and eventually decided to retire.
What are some good F1 documentaries to watch?
>>63964340
Legends of F1
http://www.dailymotion.com/user/F1Legends/1
http://www.dailymotion.com/user/AutoDocumentary/2
>>63964340
'1'
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2518788/
>>63964340
Senna (the extended blu-Ray), '1' - the 2013 documentary about F1, Grand Prix: The Killer Years, and that one docu with Jackie Stewart
>>63964021
Massa is getting old and is a bad season away from retirement. Nasr is a better driver than him but not GOAT tier and with a few more seasons with some good results he'll perform better than 2008 Massa.
And regarding sponsorships, Petrobras can sponsor any HUE driver on the grid in case of need. And even if they don't, Banco do Brasil would cover for it.
>>63964357
>>63964359
>>63964370
Will check them out, thanks
>>63964462
>a bad season away from retirement
Not as long as Smedley is the third biggest person at Williams. Massa was shit in the second half of 2015 yet nobody even seemed to notice, let alone care.
>>63964462
isn't Petrobras in kind of a bad situation right now?
>>63964370
POO2LOO
>>63964170
I feel like Williams is severly limiting Bottas pace. The two cars almost always have about the same pace when fighting for position, but when Bottas is ahead he slowly builds a gap and when Massa is ahead he ends up slowing down Bottas. It was very clear in Silverstone this year and Malaysia last year, but it also happens often when they're fighting for 5th or 6th. Massas ego and Williams inability to force team orders end up costing Bottas his race in what i counted to be 8 instances over the last two years. Bottas simply has consistently better pace, but it goes unseen in way to many races.
>>63964692
>unseen
lel what? I think everyone in the world sees how much faster Bottas is.
>>63964723
i think bottas is pretty mediocre, clear tier-2 driver, same as grosjean even massa
>>63964828
>this flag
>this topic
not even once
PENIS CONFIRMED FOR HARD
>>63964876
happy feels
reminder that according to statistical analysis, Alonso beat Button this year
reminder that the same analysis places him as the second best driver this year
https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2015/12/02/2015-model-based-driver-rankings/
>>63962472
Max Verstappen will win a race.
>>63964876
absolute madman
>>63965621
is there most overrated driver than verstappen? Probably no.
>>63965495
Interesting points on the Ferrari-Haas situation in that article:
"Ferrari’s loaned personnel were effectively free to sandbox aerodynamic concepts for 2016 and beyond, taking whatever knowledge they glean back to Ferrari. Interestingly, the Haas team chose not to convert their state-of-the-art “Windshear” rolling-road wind-tunnel from 100% scale to the FIA-mandated 60% scale. This suggests they may also be using their temporary freedom to run 100% Formula 1 chassis models, and perhaps even correlating the data with the 60% models at Maranello."
This suggests Haas could build a considerably better car than their budget would suggest. Pretty exciting
>>63965680
yeah, also it should help Ferrari challenge Merc
>>63964170
>Remember something, he nearly won the WDC
Imagine if someone like Felipe Massa won the title.
>>63965660
the city of f1
>>63965660
Bernd Maylander, shit safety car driver, glad he got replaced
>>63965621
>podiums
More meme than K-Mag and JEV combined
Happenings are happening. Got a new CPU, and if I get my bid in for the MB, then it won't be long.
>>63965785
LETS DO IT BOYS
https://twitter.com/F1/status/672466966750363648
can we make the same predictions for 2016?
>The questions were:
1. Who will be the 2016 World Champion?
2. Who will be the top 3 in the drivers’ championship at the end of the season?
3. Which three teams will occupy the top three spots in the constructors’ championship at the end of the season?
4. Which driver will be the first to score their first ever point this season?
5. Which of these five teams will score the most points in 2016: Force India, Lotus, McLaren, Sauber, Toro Rosso, Manor or Haas?
>>63965785
I'M HARD
>>63965738
>glad he got replaced
He did? Who's driving it now?
>>63965805
>1. Who will be the 2016 World Champion?
Nigger Senna
>2. Who will be the top 3 in the drivers’ championship at the end of the season?
HAM ROS VET
>3. Which three teams will occupy the top three spots in the constructors’ championship at the end of the season?
Mercedes-Ferrari-Red Bull
>4. Which driver will be the first to score their first ever point this season?
Dunno
>5. Which of these five teams will score the most points in 2016: Force India, Lotus, McLaren, Sauber, Toro Rosso, Manor or Haas?
Force India/Aston. Going off their good end to the season and having the Merc PU
>>63962472
-Williams will fall down the grid
-Haas will consistently beat Sauber
-Ferrari will get a bit closer to Mercedes
>>63965805
>1. Who will be the 2016 World Champion?
Sebastian Vettel.
>2. Who will be the top 3 in the drivers’ championship at the end of the season?
Vettel, Rosberg, Hamilton
>3. Which three teams will occupy the top three spots in the constructors’ championship at the end of the season?
Ferrari, Mercedes, Force India
>4. Which driver will be the first to score their first ever point this season?
Aids
>5. Which of these five teams will score the most points in 2016: Force India, Lotus, McLaren, Sauber, Toro Rosso, Manor or Haas?
Toro Rosso
>British F1 fans
>>63965891
who the fuck has the audacity to pose next to a car that isn't worth over 300,000€, wearing flipflops?
>>63965891
Do you have to be a retard to be a Hamilton fan or do you become one by being a Hamilton fan?
>>63965805
>Rosberg
>ROS HAM VET
>Merc-Ferrari-Force India
>Ill Will Stevens
>FI
>>63965805
>Rosberg
>ROS-VET-HAM
>MERC-FERRARI-SAUBER
>Stevens
>Sauber
>>63965805
rosberg
ros ham vet
mercedes, ferrari and williams
we don't know who is driving for manor, so no answer
mclelren
>>63965805
>1. Who will be the 2016 World Champion?
Sebby baby
>2. Who will be the top 3 in the drivers’ championship at the end of the season?
Vet Ros Ham
>3. Which three teams will occupy the top three spots in the constructors’ championship at the end of the season?
Mercedes Ferrari RedBull
>4. Which driver will be the first to score their first ever point this season?
Rossi will prolly get sum if he stays
>5. Which of these five teams will score the most points in 2016: Force India, Lotus, McLaren, Sauber, Toro Rosso, Manor or Haas?
foreskindia
Bracing myself for pic related in Brazil 2016.
Make it happen pls Seb. Do it for Jules.
>>63962295
Post all of them,you slut
>>63966521
>tfw wasn't sitting at the grandstand for this race
2011 race was boring and grandstand seats were crazy expensive so for 2012 decided to take a ticket at the end of the DRS straight so that I could view some action. Wasn't disappointed
>>63967123
Wasn't that 2013?
>>63967134
Oh. You're right. My mistake. I didn't even attend the 2013 gp due to VWL and it's just too inaccessible for people who actually have the time and money to go there.
Post more F1 wallpapers.
>>63967182
i haven't voted in your poll, huebro, but if you want to know, i watch them since i was a kiddo too :)
>>63965805
>1. Who will be the 2016 World Champion?
Rosberg
>2. Who will be the top 3 in the drivers’ championship at the end of the season?
ROS HAM VET
>3. Which three teams will occupy the top three spots in the constructors’ championship at the end of the season?
Mercedes Ferrari Williams
>4. Which driver will be the first to score their first ever point this season?
one of the Manor drivers
>5. Which of these five teams will score the most points in 2016: Force India, Lotus, McLaren, Sauber, Toro Rosso, Manor or Haas?
Force India, then McLaren followed by Toro Rosso
>People actually think Rosberg can win next year based on races that didn't matter at the end of this year
>>63967322
>>63967503
I think people here are just hoping Hamilton doesn't win again, but concede that the Mercs will be dominant
The only thing I wish for is that Hamilton will crack and go against the team's instructions in a race causing massive drama
renault is back, officially:
http://media.renault.com/global/en-gb/renault/media/pressrelease.aspx?mediaid=73985&nodeid=302&adbsc=social_20151203_25209214&adbid=672520988937076736&adbpl=tw&adbpr=16144151
red bull btfo:
>The payback as an engine supplier proved to be limited. The return on the investment necessitated by the new engine regulations and the return in terms of image were low
>>63968108
this is pure damage control
they did a shit job and now they are saying that it wasn't their fault?
If you have a bad product that doesn't put you in the top places, it's obvious that the return is low
>>63968165
They mean the return was low because there was no chance to improve the engines. but that's also silly since they agreed to those regs in the first place as did rerrari, all hoping to be in the position Merc was.
>>63968165
oh well. i don't care because it led to williams finishing 3rd again.
>joylon palmer is a works renault driver
top fucking kek. i hope pastor gets in top of the tyres in qualifying next year. his race pace was pretty good this year. yet, the dumb cunts at sky ranked him as worst driver of the year.
>>63968216
Crazy how there is a lot of anti pastor sentiment in the F1 world just because he had a few rough years even when there were people who had worse crash rates. In interviews he seems like a nice person too.
>>63968216
>the dumb cunts at sky ranked him as worst driver of the year.
The thing is that he's not a bad driver.. he just makes waaaaaay too many risky moves that ended up with him, the other driver, or both out of the race
By now he should have already learned these stuff.
Mistakes like this are ok for newcomers, or people with few years in F1.. but not for Pastor
>>63968271
What risky moves? Do you mean the same things people praised Senna and Schumacher for or the same things they get wet for when Max does them?
>>63968296
clearly not since they didn't crash as often
>>63968216
>his race pace was pretty good this year
except he did worse vs fatjohn this year but ok
>>63968296
Remember that amateur shit in Austria when he nearly lost control of the car trying to pass a Toro Rosso? You think Senna or Prost would do that?
>>63968344
Remember when Schumacher ran his friend Barrichello to the pit wall?
>>63967123
>>63967298
I went in the cheap-ass 'picnic stand' grass banks.
It was fun desu. If you had a stopwatch you could time the gaps and watch the strategies play out. Bretty cool to watch MSC's alternate strategy in action in 2011
>>63968381
Remember when Senna did that to Prost in '88 and no one gave a shit?
>>63968296
>What risky moves? Do you mean the same things people praised Senna and Schumacher for or the same things they get wet for when Max does them?
except they actually won something and didn't crash that often
and again, it's max's first year, not the 4th or 5th
>>63968253
people are praising grosjean this year for some reason. pastor's been just as fast in the races - and had more misfortune than romain.
take out grosjean's podium, and he would be about 5 points ahead in total. pastor was unlucky to havr whacked the curb at spa. if he didn't, he may have finished at least 6th or 7th.
people forget that grosjean had a massive crash in a race by himself this year - pastor didn't.
>>63968271
he's been much better this year. both mclaren drivers rammed into him - nobody said anything.
>>63968344
not by a lot though. podium aside, they were very even on points.
>>63968381
I remember having an erection, yeah
>>63968407
Based India telling it like it is.
>>63968430
>people are praising grosjean this year for some reason
could it perhaps be because he put that shitbox on the podium at a driver's track?
>>63968452
>>63968430
nobody doubts maldonado is fast
>>63968381
thats nothing at all like the circumstances maldonado crashes in
>>63968470
Educate me
>>63968465
the lotus was hardly a shitbox. last year's one most certainly was - this one's was average.
>>63968507
>the lotus was hardly a shitbox
do you work for lotus?
>>63968507
it's highest finished apart from that podium was 7th
>>63968407
>implying nobody gave a shit
Stop riding Cheatmaker's cock every thread, poo2loo. I'm starting to think you are a german using a indian proxy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyHUygPQ38E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWwNU79-tZA
>>63968499
both drivers have a lot of options when neither are near the limits of grip, maldonado crashes in corners (usually on the inside of someone) because he doesn't give himself any options. when the other car doesn't do exactly what he expects them to do he never has a plan b trajectory he can switch to cause he's already at the limit of grip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZvdT2bC0_4
>>63968578
So:
-hate someone when they make mistakes
-love someone when they crash into a rival intentionally
>>63968613
crashing while being in control takes more skill than crashing while out of control does
>>63968553
kek. just staying a fact. the e22 scored, what, 10 points. THAT is shitbox-tier.
>>63968562
see above.
Aw yea renault is back
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.renault.com%2Fglobal%2Fen-gb%2Frenault%2Fmedia%2Fpressrelease.aspx%3Fmediaid%3D73985%26amp%3Bnodeid%3D302%26amp%3Badbsc%3Dsocial_20151203_25209214%26amp%3Badbid%3D672520988937076736%26amp%3Badbpl%3Dtw%26amp%3Badbpr%3D16144151
>>63968653
we can argue about what a shitbox is but the car was not podium-worthy
>>63968639
Skill isn't being questioned here, the question is why hate someone for doing what plenty of others have done before him, even those who are more skilled?
>>63965805
1.Vettel
2.Vettel,Hamilton,Rosberg
3.Mercedes,Ferrari,Red Bull
4.Palmer
5.Force India
>>63968671
Kek
>>63968693
because people like skill and his crashes indicate that his skills are lacking?
>>63968564
>Monaco 2006
I love that Keke said that he's a dirty cheat, yet his son did exactly the same thing. Also if he's able to think of that, in that sort of time and execute it, who cares, I think it's more based than anything.
>Austria 2002
>Brazilian Flag
Yep. Checks out.
>>63968737
Even when he doesn't crash as often as people like to imply? As I already said it just seems weird to me that so many have a real axe to grind against him.
>>63968829
there are a lot of good drivers people like who could be in f1, taking up a seat but being just "not so bad" and not indispensable to f1 would be reason enough for most people to hate a driver
plus he actually does crash more and in dumber ways than the top drivers do
>mfw watching 1998 CART races, most recently @ Portland
so comfy
>those warm colors
>those commentators
>those engine sounds
>that passing
Best part is Zanardi winning and doing doughnuts. No one had done them before and the announcers are blowing their loads over it.
>tfw no more Zanardi
https://youtu.be/Sy1OPxjWLkE?t=7157
>>63968829
I only dislike Pastor for almost killing a guy in Monaco and his oil buddies bribing his way out of it. Otherwise he is a pretty decent driver imho. He's a race winner and GP2 champion, even though these were both not _that_ impressive it's at least something.
>>63968047
mfw 22 cars on the grid
my god ... cart. i would stay up late ti watch it. it was so much better than f1 in 1998/9. i stopped watching after seeung greg moor's crash. i was 8 at the time.
i found f1 so boring, i stopped watching in 2000/1 and started again in 2009.
>>63965805
1. Rosberg
2. Rosberg, Vettel and Hamilton.
3. Mercedes, Ferrari and Williams.
4. Jolyon Palmer
5. Mclaren.
Renault is back
>yfw Alonso comes back
Not been following things & see Renault are back in. How fucked are Red Bull at this point?
>>63969251
Quite
>>63969251
Fuck off ron
>>63969171
I just want this livery back pls, not that wannabe shit from 2010
>>63969357
Cheeky nigger
>>63965805
1. Vettel
2. VET, HAM, RAI or VET, HAM, ROS
3. Ferrari, Mercedes, Williams
4. Whoever the better Manor driver is
5. McLaren, with Force India being just behind them
>>63969414
I never understood the appeal of it either desu senpai
>>63966521
If he wins in 2016, the only remaining question will be if he can surpass Schumacher. He's already at least the 4th greatest driver of all time - if he beats Hamilton, he'll be the 2nd greatest.
>>63969357
Friend, just wait for next year's new rebarbative shade of predatory gray.
>>63968344
>You think Senna or Prost would do that?
Remember Piquet doing it against Senna?
Flavio back when
Also, Romain got rekt didn't he?
>>63969414
based Guatemala
Now all we need is toyota back and grid will be comfy again
>>63969414
Problem is it will have red on it because of total. So it will be shite anyway
These are gonna be great to compare when winter testing comes around
How will /f1/ talk about 2015 Manor in ten years time?
>>63969876
who?
>>63969876
How does /f1/ talk about Midland?
>>63969812
>Vettel WDC due to massive Ferrari update powered by Haas cheating shenanigans
>Merc Implosion caused by Schokodrink Senna
>Manor still a shit
>Sauber a shit
>McLaren and Haas on the same okayish level
>Toro Rosso beating RB in the first third of the season
>Aston Martin/Poop India challenging Williams and RB
>new Renault somewhere in the meaningless midfield
Germany bonus:
>Vettel wins his first race from P4/lower (Ferrari quali fuckup)
>Hülkenberg gets his podium
>Bottas back problems, Sutil in the Williams for one race
>>63969876
>>63969902
They were better than Midland, at least they didn't go bust half way through the year.
Probably like Super Aguri or Arrows. A plucky underdog that scored a few points, but ultimately never quite made it work.
>>63969951
Tbqfh Super Aguri did make it work but Honda got butthurt by being out scored by them, so they removed support.
>>63969990
Forgot about that. Yeah, on second thoughts it was Honda's fault (again)
>>63970022
If I recall they retroactively blamed it on the economic crisis but the relationship was already rocky midway through 2007
>>63969812
>Williams struggles getting their parts to work together at first but makes some compromises and gets stuff working well by Canada
>Low track temps in the first few races means Ferrari's race pace looks average at first
>Sainz gets better at racecraft, Verstappen gets better in qualifying, but both look disappointing cause Toro Rosso isn't as competitive
>British media complains about Baku
>Jolyon Palmer podium in second half of the season
>Ericsson Q3
>Haas slow at fixing problems, bad at adapting to new situations in races strategically
>>63969525
>rebarbative
lel
>Torro Rosso to become new Manor
http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/headlines/2015/12/path-cleared-for-Toro-Rosso-Ferrari-engine-deal.html
>>63970522
>max verstappen with straight line speed
scared
>>63970522
how bad can it be
>3 months of silly season and Formel E ahead
loving it 2bh
>sauber
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Music to my ears tbqfh
what are you on about huebro?
>>63970846
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12474/10087333/fia-to-permit-in-season-engine-development-until-at-least-2019
>>63970796
It's just going to allow the top teams to open an even bigger gap to the customer teams.
>>63970883
oh that, thought it was some new hot shit
>>63970701
this makes me nostalgic about f1 in general for some reason
>>63970618
sorry max but you won't be scoring points next year
>>63970921
At least Honda can somewhat react with that engine of theirs
>>63970921
OI M8
In my view, customers are not going to compete in manufacturer level anyway. At least with that big teams can push development further and extract the maximum possible from their PU's, that's all I want to see. I don't want to see honda and renault and redbull stuck fighting with williams and forskindia in the midfield. I want to see them fighting with Mercedes and Ferrari. I want to see cars flying.
>Sauber 2016
>>63971030
> I want to see cars flying.
Well... Mercedes have some experience with that.
![Ralphschu2006_gallery__600x347[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/liGxGBV.jpg "Ralphschu2006_gallery__600x347[1].jpg")
>>63971030
>>63971276
>>63971276
>>63971313
>>63970621
tbqh, that is a fine looking race car, family
>>63969812
>yfw finding out we don't know what we are talking about
>>63972145
It wouldn't be fun if it was easy to get right though.
Hell, I'd rather have a MAS vs RAI championship fight than be right.
>>63971959
wtf
>>63972225
If Ferrari are close with Mercedes, I can see Kimi stealing a win or two. He'll start caring again if the car is competitive.
>>63970950
Those Mclarens were so damn sexy, I miss them too
>>63972989
>inb4 BMW Sauber 2007
>>63972989
When will we see McLaren in Rocket Red again guys?
>2-2016 r-right?
>>63972989
2011 had much nicer sidepods though
>>63973153
forgot pic
tfw McLaren had the best car on the grid at the end of 2012 (minus reliably) then went on to be podiumless in 2013.
Why did they don't abandon the car and go back to the MP4-27?
>>63973153
>>63973190
not really, they were aerodynamically stupid and looked like a really heavy bloke had stood on the carbon fibre mould and broke it
Favorite 2010-13 era car?
For me its this beast. RB7
>dat rear
