they really have not had a good win all year long. barely beat louisville and notre dame. sure they are good, but would get BTFO against a real team like Ohio State.
Honestly this playoff is going to end up just like the 2013 championship game, and undeserving and weak #1 team will get destroyed by Alabama
Oklahoma or MSU is going to win, they have the best QBs
>>63896259
MSU is legit tbhfam. I dont know how the defense played so good against OSU, but if they play that good in the playoffs with a healthy Cook they will steamroll everyone.
They'll lose to Bama, but if they get Oklahoma or MSU in the finals then they're gold.
>>63896696
Oklahoma and MSU are both better than Bama
Ohio State would fucking kill every team outside of Bama, who they would still beat.
>>63896853
even MSU?
>>63896853
Enjoy playing Houston in the who gives a shit bowl
>>63897051
thats a funny way to spell rose bowl
>>63896696
Nigga Bama is looking like the weakest top 4 right now
they've turned into Wisconsin of 2014
>>63897101
>Nigga Bama is looking like the weakest top 4 right now
Translation: I don't even watch football and i have no idea what i'm talking about
>>63897083
You mean the bowl Iowa will play in, since you know, they actually won their division and played for a conference championship?
>>63897139
Those would be the people ranking Bama blindly at #2 despite not having a big win and having a loss to Ole Piss.
the Alabama Derrick Henrys are going to be keked as soon as they face an offense that they can't keep up with or a defense like MSU's
>>63897101
They have the best defense of the bunch, the 2nd best offense, and the best coaching. Bama is the favorite.
>>63897229
they do not have a better offense than Oklahoma or MSU
>>63895255
who looks like a juggernaut this year? Of course they have a chance, they have good talent position players and a nasty front 7.
>>63897223
Oklahoma lost to Texas and doesn't have a big win because they play in the Big 12.
Michigan State has a big win in Ohio State, but was lucky to beat Michigan and lost to fucking Nebraska.
Clemson has 2 big wins in ND and Florida State, but didn't look like world beaters all year.
tl;dr every team is bad but Bama is the least bad.
>>63895255
they have two top 10 wins still. better than Iowa, tOSU, Bama so far
>people seriously think Bama isn't going to wreck through the playoffs
>people seriously think that Ohio State last year wasn't a fluke win on a dumb throw and broken tackle run
ok
>>63897229
>2nd best offense
"if we can't run up the middle 40 times, we're fucked"
>>63897319
good thing Ole Miss isn't in the playoffs!
>>63897300
No
the SEC championship is going to feature a team that unironically lost 27-2 to Florida State last week you idiot
so will people stop sucking Bama's nuts after their 3rd straight bowl loss?
>bama
>just two wins over ranked teams who are in the 20-25 range
>good
>>63897368
ACC championship and B1G championships are going to feature two teams who have literally not played a single team of note. Big 12 champion lost to fucking Texas. Nobody is good, deal with it.
>>63897363
Good thing Nebraska isn't in!
Good thing Texas isn't in!
Good thing Clemson doesn't have to play *insert shit ACC team they barely beat* again!
>>63897363
Ole Miss is a way better team than Texas and Nebraska.
>>63897411
pointing out that other teams are clearly flawed doesn't actually make your team better. You're all similarly shit.
certainly that's not difficult for you to understand, right?
Their one dimensional offense is gonna get exposed. They wont be able to run Henry 40 times a game against competent defense and their QB is shit.
>>63897411
Louisville is who you were looking for. Or the Booty Blasters.
>>63897442
and way worse than the other cfp teams, which is the only relevant point to be discussed there.
>>63897397
I'm pointing out that a loss to 9-3 Ole Miss is less damning than losses to teams that aren't even going to bowl games.
I hate Bama fans, but you have to admit Bama's losses lately are usually on some flukey nonsense like the Auburn FG return or Ole Miss getting literally every bounce imaginable and still barely beating them. But yea Bamafags are insufferable and I hope Henry breaks his leg
>>63897411
>*insert shit ACC team they barely beat* again!
A win is a win, at least them and Iowa are undefeated. They won the games they should have, can't say the same about Bama, even though for some reason people don't think Bama lost to Ole Miss and just ignore it
>>63897409
>this delusion
hahahaha
>>63897516
people don't take Iowa seriously because they had a conference schedule without the three best teams, which is one of the many reasons these oversized conferences are dumb.
>>63897498
No, it is not. You implied Bama's loss made them bad. But Bama's loss is way better than Okie and MSU's.
>>63897508
They aren't flukes, it's football. I'm an OSU fan but I'm not going to pout and cry about the phantom PI call that set Michigan State up for an easy touchdown. Playing teams close enough to be beaten by them on shit like that is still your fault.
>>63897409
Even if you disagree with their respective rankings, ND, Oregon, Michigan, and OSU are undoubtedly "of note"
>>63897531
What delusion? My team is out of the playoffs, but Bama are clearly the team to beat this year.
>>63897207
the second highest ranked big 10 team will go to the rose bowl
the loser of MSU v Iowa will fall below Ohio State
>>63897516
So you want Bama kicked out for losing to Sugar Bowl bound 9-3 Ole Miss but are fine with MSU and Okie who both lost to teams who won't even make a bowl? Face it, you are nothing but a jealous hater.
>>63897585
I was saying Iowa and North Carolina have played nobody of note. Worded a little weirdly I guess. But the guy was saying "HERF DERF ESS EEE CEE HAS FLORIDA LMAO" and I'm pointing out that the ACC and B1G championships have teams that are probably worse than Florida in them.
>>63897561
I didn't imply that, you inferred it. I was pointing out that assuming Bama is going to "wreck through the playoffs" is stupid because they've lost to the best team they played this year, who is a 9-3 team in the ~15 range, and that you can't say that their 1-2 losses each of the past few years are all flukes.
>>63897585
I thought he meant UNC and Iowa
>>63897640
>and I'm pointing out that the ACC and B1G championships have teams that are probably worse than Florida in them.
The B1G championship is between Iowa and MSU. Do you really think those teams are both worse than Florida?
MSU shut down Elliot who is much better than Henry.
If Cook stays healthy MSU has a very good shot at winning it all
>>63897587
No they aren't. They look pathetic. They needed to forcefeed 46 carries to Henry to scrape by a categorically shitty Auburn team. They don't have a single statement win and are riddled with exposable flaws. I'd easily go with Clemson over them for the mere fact that Clemson hasn't been shown to be beatable to this point, but Bama clearly has.
If I'm a team in the CFP I want to face Bama first round.
Deshaun is the truth
that's as close as you can get in college football, yeah alabama will probably win but Clemson has a threat at qb and rb and can ride it like tosu last year
>>63897633
I never said anything about MSU or Oklahoma, Im just saying that Iowa or Clemson are better
>you are nothing but a jealous hater.
am i talking to an 8th grader?
>>63897640
ohh i get what you meant now
>>63897616
>College rankings everybody.
How fucking idiotic.
>>63897688
Iowa is, yes. Michigan State probably isn't, but MSU isn't exactly amazing.
>>63897640
>I'm pointing out that the ACC and B1G championships have teams that are probably worse than Florida in them.
but they don't
>>63897616
iowa would, but MSU might not.
>>63897761
Dear fuck, SECfags are utter retards
you truly reflect your national academic rankings
>>63897705
>I'd easily go with Clemson over them for the mere fact that Clemson hasn't been shown to be beatable to this point
What are you talking about? ND and Louisville showed that they are, in fact, beatable. Those two just couldn't get the job done.
>>63897516
No one is ignoring that loss. People are ignoring Oklahoma getting their ass beat by Texas. People are ignoring MSU losing to fucking Nebraska and should've lost to Michigan. None of those teams are even marginally good (won't even make bowls) aside from Michigan who got beat by every decent team they played. Everyone wants to say "b-but Bama lost to le Ole Piss XD!" While ignoring the fact that everyone else besides Clemson lost to way worse competition
LOL
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>>63897829
I'm not an SEC fag though. I went to Purdue. I just know that Iowa is a bad football team.
>>63897839
I don't think Oklahoma or MSU should be in right now either
Can we jsut go back to the old system and have Clemson play Iowa for all the tostitos
>>63897850
That is no offense, a weak ass schedule.
>>63897850
Seriously. Mississippi State, Ole Miss, LSU, TAMU, Arkansas, Florida, Bama and GA would all be undefeated with that schedule
>>63897951
And UNC didn't
I can't wait for Iowa vs UNC to play each other in the meme bowl
>>63897951
MSU, Florida, Arkansas, and LSU wouldn't, TAMU probably wouldnt either
Ohio State would have won it all again.
>>63897951
I would agree with you if was 2013 the SEC wasn't 1-7 against the ACC the last week of the season the last 2 years
>>63898028
LSU and Florida would. TAMU definitely wouldn't though. They're pretty bad.
>>63898067
Florida's offense is too shit and LSU would choke and lose at least 1 game
>>63898060
The bottom feeders + this year's Florida lost to the best of the ACC
Those teams are the worst in the SEC and the best in the ACC
>>63898040
If Clemson and/or Alabama drops their conference title games, I can see them getting in again. As mediocre as Alabama is, I don't see them losing to Florida, though.
>>63898207
SEC West's second best team lost to the 5th best team in the fuckign american and they lost all their bowl games last year
The only way oklahoma doesn't win it all is if baker memefield gets concussed, or perine and mixon lose their knees.
keep hatin.
>>63898354
what if they have to play texas?
>>63898274
>that delusion
You're really misusing this
>>63898419
that won't happen because texas can't make the playoff this year.
>>63898434
how? SEC teams have been getting exposed for 2 years now, why can you discount the SEC East losing because theyre shit but when the SEC west has shown to be just as bad you shout delusion?
stay retarded kletus
>>63898434
>the SEC is the best conference maymay xD
How is the weather back there in >2011?
>>63898485
Because the ACC Coastal is atrocious
>>63898585
and the SEC East is atrocious, whats your point
>>63898557
I didn't say that
He's using that argument for why SEC West teams wouldn't go undefeated in the ACC Coastal
>>63898626
>lose to memephis
>think youll go undefeated in the ACC Coastal
>>63898607
This guy >>63897951 said the SEC West would go undefeated with the schedule in >>63897850
>>63898679
and hed be wrong
>>63898679
He included Georgia which got buttfucked in the SEC East you are a dipshit
>>63898660
Miami lost to Cincinnati
Pitt lost to Miami
Duke lost to Pitt and Miami
And that's the three best teams
>>63898722
and UF which got buttfucked by FSU and went to OT against FAU
LOL
O
L
>>63898691
No
Pretty sure you are actually
>>63898722
Georgia actually beat South Carolina, which North Carolina failed to do
>>63897951
Florida would not be undefeated. They should have lost to FAU and trust me we are not a good team
>>63897951
I don't necessarily disagree, besides Florida and Georgia who are worse than half the teams on that schedule.
I would have to think Indiana and Penn State could easily go undefeated with the same schedule as well, along with all the Pac 12, and most of the Big 12.
I don't think it's a stretch to say that Kansas State would probably have a similar record. UNC's schedule is laughably bad
>>63898789
and they went to OT against charleston southern
>>63898789
and yet Georgia still got buittfucked by the SEC East and went to overtime against Georgia Southern
you are still talking why? are you trying to clown the SEC?
>>63898823
I'm pretty sure Florida and Georgia both beat South Carolina
There was only 4 bowl eligble teams on that schedule
>>63898884
your entire argument is just that scar beat UNC.
>>63898823
>>63898884
yet UNC will get into the playoffs with a win
I'm going to love the butthurt
>>63898829
It was Georgia Southern
>>63898858
Georgia Southern is better than most of those teams
I don't care about the SEC
But the ACC Coastal is THE most atrocious P5 division
>>63898974
>SEC fags have to prop up Georgia Southern to make their conference look good
>>63898906
And your argument isn't attached to any relevant facts to this
>>63898926
No they won't
Stanford will keep them out
>>63898974
>Georgia Southern is better than most of those teams
haha
>>63899016
GT beat FSU who curbstomped UF
>>63899009
I'm not a SEC fan
I just know how bad the Coastal. Is
Don't think it's anything but
>>63899016
Yes, they will
UNC will keep Stanford out
>>63899023
Who wouldn't be besides Pitt, Duke, Miami, and NC State?
>>63899044
Florida curbstomped Georgia who beat Georgia Tech
See where this goes?
>>63899120
says the guy using the fact that scar beat UNC
>>63899120
>NC State
>picking the one team Ga Southern is probably better than
silly State fan how awful must it be to hate another team more than you like your own?
>>63899054
They'd have ONE good win and ONE horrible loss and nothing else of note
Stanford would have 3 good wins and their losses combined look better than the loss to South Carolina
Bama fag here. I think we can take Michigan State and Clemson if we play average to good. Oklahoma we'd be fucked though unless Coker gets his shit together and plays to the best of his ability (auburn was honestly the worst game he's played imo).
Yes bama lost to Ole Miss. But that really doesn't matter at this point if bama beats florida so stop bringing it up. The team showed some resolve at the end and without some of the receivers dropping catchable passes at the end, they would have won.
My ideal world is we match up with Michigan state for the first round and then clemson eliminates oklahoma because they're probably the best team all around.
>>63899168
UNC will get in over Stanford though
>>63899135
You're using linking too many games
I'm actually pulling for Iowa. I love seeing some big white farm boys play ball. Makes me happy.
>>63899203
No they won't
They're already above UNC now
If Clemson had a loss they wouldn't be in the conversation, so North Carolina can't just beat them and expect much better
>>63899178
>My ideal world is matching up with the one team with a defense that can stop Derrick Henry in his tracks
as you wish
>>63899306
clemson with a loss would be in the convo as long as it wasnt to ND or FSU, they still have two top 10 wins and would have a chance to get a third saturday. UNC just has a shit schedule
>>63899306
Clemson is the committee's #1 team if UNC beats them jumping Stanford will be cake just like tOSU did to the Big 12 last year
>>63899354
No they would not
They'd be where UNC is now
Hopeless
Clemson is probably going to get destroyed by whoever they face first, they are not playing like a good football team right now, particularly their defense.
I see Oklahoma as basically Baylor from last year. An explosive passing offense that is going to lose because they shoot themselves in the foot by being so one dimensional, they don't really have the option to run out the clock and can't shut down an offense.
Alabama is strong as fuck on both sides of the ball but have just dominated every team they've faced since their early season loss. Their defense is not a question but their offense is pretty run orientated and hasn't faced a real dominant defense yet.
Michigan State has an over aggresive defense that forces a lot of turnovers and 3 and outs in exchange for giving up a lot of big plays. Their offense is balanced. They should beat Clemson easily but might lose to Alabama or Oklahoma unless they can force a few turnovers.
>>63899328
better than having a meme offense pass all over our secondary
>>63899414
who would get in over them if they were 12-1 ACC champs with wins over ND, FSU, and UNC? a 2 loss pac 12 champion? no. ND? No, not with clemson having the H2H. A non conference champion one loss B1G team? No. A 2 or 3 loss SEC non champion? No.
>>63899374
Ohio State had two great wins and last year's Virginia Tech was a whole hell of a lot better than their year's South Carolina
UNC has a much worse resume
>>63899487
>2 loss Pac-12 champion
Yes
>Notre Dame
Maybe
>One loss B1G non-champion
Yes
>2 loss SEC champion
Yes
>>63899509
UNC will still get in with a win tho
mad much?
>>63899578
there cant be a two loss SEC champion retard. Clemson would get in over a 3 loss UF SEC champion or a 2 loss bama who didnt win the SEC. Theyd also get it over tOSU and the loser of Iowa/MSU. Clemson would also have 3 quality wins to Stanfords 1-2 with one less loss.
>>63899423
Clemson has played 10 straight weeks
They're tired
The defense hasn't actually been bad
It's the offense putting them in bad situations causing most of this
>>63899666
I was tired of happening
Yes they would be left out
They don't have a schedule to play themselves back in.
>>63899751
I was tired of *typing
Not sure how the hell "happening" got typed
What needs to happen for Stanford to get in? An Alabama loss to Florida? I hate Stanford but if they're in then my ducks go to the rose bowl.
>>63900565
Just Clemson losing
>>63900565
they can't get in, if Clemson or Bama loses then OSU will get in
>>63900625
But I thought the cfp committee gives weight to conference champions, OSU isn't even playing in the championship let alone winning it.
>>63901091
It would be a tiebreaker if they both had 1-loss
but Stanford has two, and both to poop teams
>>63901179
But Stanford has twice the wins over currently ranked teams than OSU
>>63901346
A loss is worse than a win, and it only compounds if you have multiple
you'd have to be out of your mind to think a two loss team is getting a CFP spot with all of these other 1-loss teams waiting
>>63901440
Okay, let's say both Nama and Clemson lose. Then Stanford and OSU are both in?
>>63898823
>Indiana
Worst 6-6 team this season. There are below .500 big ten teams better than them
Clemson won't make it past the first round.
>>63901561
then cfb collapses
>>63895255
Bama, OU, MSU, and tOSU could beat Clemson by 7 points or less. Anymore is utter delusion.
>>63901561
>both Nama and Clemson lose
UNC
Ohio State
im a clemson fan and desu there is no clear dominant team this season..any one of the top four at the moment could win
>>63895255
Alabama will blow out Clemson in the natty in a Clemsoning of epic proportions. Book it.
>>63904032
I don't think you know what Clemsoning is supposed to mean.
>>63904300
TROLLED HEHE
