So, is the new GOAT confirmed?
>better shooting especially 3 pt percentage
>younger age
>already breaking multiple records
>going to break 70 wins in his second championship season, as opposed to his fourth
he's definitely a much better offensive player. the only question is if MJ's superior defense makes up for it. Steph is still a well above average defender but not MJ tier.
>>63676027
Pretty much. Jordan grandpas got BTFO.
>only shoots 3's really well
>is somehow better than the player who has 10 scoring titles, 6 finals mvps, 8 nba defensive 1st teams, 3 steal titles, 5 regular season mvps, and a dpoty award
MJ
>gets into the paint because zone defense and offball double teams are literally illegal
>stern literally moves the 3pt line up to fit into Jordan's range
>played with the best perimeter defender of all time to hide his own deficiency's
>constantly lost to elite teams, only beat perennial chokers like karl malone and shawn kemp
Steph
>unlimited range, needs to be double teamed 30 feet from the basket
>doesn't need to resort to loner hatred autism to motivate himself
>beat the best player of his generation in the finals
>leader beloved by his team, doesn't need to slap his teammates in practice to get them to play hard
>better individual and team stats
i'll leave the choice to you
>>63676131
shows how much you know the boy, senpai
>>63676027
Don't forget his father is still alive to witness every moment of it.
Curry
>kids know their father
>doesn't cheat on his wife
>doesn't hate black people
>doesn't chimp out when frustrated, never punched Kerr
Jordan
>gambling debt gets fathered killed
>never a father to his own kids
>sleeps with literally anything look at his first wife
It's no contest
No ones buying Currys shitty shoes
>>63676313
This. Curry is a fucking pussy.
Curry will be tip 25 player but ain't better Jordan. Unless he wins more awards the Jordan.
>>63676131
Curry has the 3rd highest free throw % of all time behind Nash and Price.
>>63676369
>he still thinks basketball greatness is determined by crunching the numbers of awards won
???
>>63676369
Unless Steve dies of a heart attack, they're going to win at least 6 championships. He's better than Pop and Phil combined
Curry will never win a DPoTY or First/Second Team Defense.
>>63676408
Pop CREATED Kerr you fucking muppet.
>>63676526
And Kerr has surpassed his teachers. Is that so difficult to understand?
THE AGE OF LIGHT SKIN IS UPON US
>>63676737
>1 championship
>>63676744
It's always been the age of light skin, shit skins have just been living in it
>>63676762
>67 wins in his first season
>>63676222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ekqkRsziFo
>>63676027
>muh 3 pointers
Currys boring to watch.
>>63676781
Steve Walton is fucking 12-0 as interim head coach. I could coach that team to the play-offs
>>63676845
Only because Steve changed the mindset of the players from average team to one of the most dominant in NBA history. It's basketball. The seed has been planted. It's largely up to the players now. Not to mention, why could neither of those coaches produce such seasons quicker with much better teams?
>>63676222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP-EIeGW4lk
>>63676887
Usually Pop and Phil ran into each other and fucked each other out of more dominant seasons.
>>63676887
>people were against putting Kerr in instead of Jackson
>Muh mark jackson
>muh perfect coach
>d-dis racism!
lmao and fucking Kerr takes a middle of the road squad and makes them a superpower in the NBA. Seriously why do people still hire black coaches? Has there ever been a good one?
>>63676900
Look at how fucking horrible the defense was...
Dribble to the left and he can only slide...no contact.
>>63676951
He was the new thing so it was a bit of an adjustment for opposing teams.. From his second season on he was getting the shit kicked out of him every game but he kept doing his thing.
The NBA in those days was way rougher than it is today
>unironically believing Curry > Jordan
can we just move /nba/ to /asp/ with the manchildren?
>>63676298
Somebody stop him already
>>63677072
>athletes don't get better with time
That's why Joe Montana and Pele are still considered GOATs by rational people, right? Quit living in the past
Bulls fan here.
Jordan is the greatest ever to play, but Curry is the guy I would want to be the face of my franchise's history.
Jordan is kind of a massive cunt
>>63680552
>faggot actually thinks there is a significant difference between athletes separated by two decades
LOL
You need to learn how to troll. Saying monumentally stupid shit is not trolling.
>>63680598
fake bulls fan
massive cunts dominate and do massive cunt things to win
do you want to win or just have feel good vibes?
curry won't win 6 titles in the modern era, it's just impossible. he'll get another 2 finals appearances at best. too much turnover with free agency.
the one thing curry has over jordan is his 3
but jordan has superior defense and can drive/dunk in the paint and isn't afraid to get dirty down low. that makes him the all-around better player
>>63676222
bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh he went 6-0 in the finals and never went to a game 7
and took years off in his prime
>>63676027
Can he go 6-0 in championships...This will be the defining factor. Not how many points he scored in his career, or mvps earned, but rings
>>63676222
>beat the best player of his generation in the finals
So Dirk confirmed GOAT?
>>63676027
Yes Curry is better than Jordan. He can't touch LeBron, yet.
>>63681123
Curry has a perfect record in the Finals and has not gone to a game 7 so far.
He hasn't hit his prime either.
>2 good seasons in gimick offense
absolutely not
>>63681178
He had to beat Kobe, not LeBron, to be claimed as the GOAT
>>63676027
I'm certainly a fan of Curry, but you dickriders are jinxing him trying to force the comparison this early
>>63681178
He beat kobe and lebron in the same run. Confirmed GOAT X2?
Not even better than LeBron
>literally two above all star seasons and 1 ring
>GOAT
Lol he's not even Lebron yet, much less Kobe, Duncan etc.
>>63681265
A Kobe and Pau on the cusp of a 3peat. Swept em.
>>63681209
but by the transitive property this means you think Lebron is better than Jordan, which is utterly false.
>>63681272
I meant in the Finals
please come home to Charlotte bb. Fuck it disgust me. BOTH these guys are from the tarheel state.
>>63676222
>>gets into the paint because zone defense and offball double teams are literally illegal
>>stern literally moves the 3pt line up to fit into Jordan's range
where did underage b&s invent this nonsense from? Literally the entire offense of most the superstars today is running full speed to the basket and throwing yourself into a defender for a foul.
Lebron is the goat f a m
>>63681328
No one challenged Jordan after Bird got old, and he dodged Hakeem to play Baseball. It was a weak era. LeBron would shit on MJ like he shits on Kobe and Wade.
>career 21 ppg 6.9 ast and 47% FG and 1 ring is enough to be called GOAT
shows how awful the NBA product is right now
>>63676222
>Jordan a bad perimeter defender
you dun fucked up now
>>63681378
>no one challenged
>weak era
I know you're personally just trolling but it's amazing actually you see underage b&s that actually believe this nonsense.
Lebron has played his entire career in the weakest conference in NBA history, on par with Kareem's early career. Jordan's era was full of top 50 all-time players and first ballot HoFers. Lebron struggled his entire career against guys like DeShawn Stevenson's Wizards and Dwight Howard's Magic and an old ass Celtic team that was only good for 3 years.
It'd be one thing if Lebron at least played in the West, but then of course he'd never get out of the first round. He'd be TMac all over in that regard.
>>63681378
>Hakeem only played basketball for two seasons
Jordan made the era look weak because he KILLED people every single year. In reality there are many all-time great players from that era, just nobody gives a shit about them because they sucked compared to Jordan. LBJ doesn't have that kind of dominance.
>>63681378
>2-4
>advanced stats
>playing his entire career in the weakest EC in NBA history
>needing to run away from your team to join two of the only elite guys in your entire conference
>2-4
>>63681408
You're trying to tell me Curry and LeBron wouldn't make guys like Patrick Ewing look stupid?
Russel Westbrook could dunk Ewing out of New York.
LeBron's Finals opponents were many times better than any team Jordan ever faced in the finals.
This is a fact.
Tim Duncan is better than Michael Jordan.
>>63681433
Westbrook would get called for travel before he even got within the arc. They actually called that stuff back then. Lebron could play, but he'd just be a stronger Clyde Drexler that's a worse shooter. Absurdly predictable on offense when he's not getting calls. Gurry would actually have someone playing defense on him, unlike today.
Worst defense PG era in history.
>>63681447
Duncan's team only accounts for half of Lebron's embarrassing finals failures. He didn't even win finals MVP the first time and the second time he was 58 years old and the third best player on the team. Try again kek.
>>63681447
The only team that was probably better than any team Jordan faced was the 13-14 spurs.
>>63681491
Mavs would sweep all Jordan's teams like they did Kobe's
>>63681505
and Darko Milicic and Andrew Bynum would have been a dynasty if they played together. ok 11 year old namefag.
>>63681433
Yeah and Dwight Howard would probably dunk on Bill Russell, but only the most blithering idiot would say Duhwite is a better all-time player. Everyone is more athletic now because the steroids are better and frankly the human race has evolved to be faster and stronger. You can only be judged by what you do in your era and what LBJ has done is win a few MVPs, collude with two other stars to make an all-star team in one of the worst conferences ever, and go 2-4 in the finals.
>>63681536
It wasn't the worst conference ever. They literally dismantled a championship team in the Celtics. What's your metric for conference strength? The play of the lower seeds? Who cares.
>>63681536
>Human race has evolved
nigga we havent evolved for like 50k years
>>63676382
>3rd all time
7 years in the league, he's got plenty of time for that to drop. Longevity is the statistical enemy. Let's wait a bit before GOAT status.
>>63681606
My friend I'm sorry but you're a stupid moron. Look at every olympic record over the years for the past several decades: it's only trending up. Look at what athletes can do these days compared with even just a few decades ago. Look at how much more physically impressive the average young adult is today (obviously you have to not include the fatties when you calculate the arithmetic mean).
>>63681576
I said one of the. The c's had a pretty good team yeah sure they gave each other a run for each others' money when they played. What about after that? The Bulls without D-Rose most of the time? The Magic? The Hawks? The Sixers? The Pacers? All of these teams are jokes and you know it. Metric for conference strength? How about number of championship caliber teams? Most years there were 1 or 2 at most.
>>63681708
LeBron destroyed the Pistons, too. By himself. Only LeBron is getting out of the East for the next few years. Why do you think Iguodala moved out west? Dwight? They want a shot. The East was made weak by dominance.
Wade is the X-factor here, but he's too old I think.
>>63681908
Two facts (not opinions for) you:
1. Lebron is the best basketball player of his generation by far and doesn't have much competition within his conference.
2. Despite this he's not done all that well.
Put those two facts together, and voila it adds up to the fact that in terms of 'dominance' he's probably 4th or 5th all time.
>nobody in the east will beat the cavs for the next few years.
perhaps. It is a bold take but it would really only serve my argument if you turned out to be right.
>>63681908
lol that piston's team was shit
you fucking dickriders....
>>63681223
>gimmick offense
You mean the triangle?
>>63676346
honestly I was expecting an australian flag, what a disappointment
>>63681237
Dirk beat Durant and WestGOD, Godbe, and Wade, Lelbron, and Bosh all in the same playoff run. Dirk is obviously the fucking GOAT PF.
>>63681708
>My friend I'm sorry but you're a stupid moron.
Yes evolution has made us break previous records. Not better access to training, drugs, and medical treatment.
>Look at how much more physically impressive the average young adult is today
Yes being fatter then ever is impressive. Shows we have mastered agriculture.
Not sure how you can call someone a stupid moron, when you yourself are a retard.
>>63683726
>inb4 Tim Duncan
Fucker played center for most of his career
>>63685337
Then who the fuck was David Robinson
Curry will never be as good as Jordan
Fuck off faggots
>Curry
>Under Armour
>Jordan
>Jordans
the winner is clear folks
>>63676222
MJ
>so awful at gambling the mafia killed his dad and David Stern had to give him a 2 year secret suspension to let everything blow over
Steph
>dad is still alive
>>63680609
> Have you seen Pele's old games in La liga? fuck even ronaldo, zidane and beckham dont compare to the current spanish sqauds
>>63676027
>better shooting
Jordan averaged 30 per game his entire career while shooting 50% from the field. Jordan also maybe the best midrange shooter in nba history. Unlike Curry, Jordan can actually play defense, and isn't just a one way player. Watching the Clilper/Warriors game the other night, it was painfully clear after Paul torched Curry in the first half, the plan was to hide him on defense the rest of the night. The guy was basically Steve Nash tier playing defense.
>go stand in the corner in D and just don't do shit
Btw, by the time Jordan was Curry's age, he had like 5 scoring titles. Curry has none.
>>63685519
curry
Most importantly
>white
You curry faggots where saying the same thing about Lin.
Let's just appreciate Curry for what he is
I don't think it's possible in today's NBA to stack a team that can win 5+ championships in 10 years. Even the Heat couldn't do it with Lelbron. While Curry may never get 6 championships he's undisputably a better Michael Jordan at everything on and off the court other than dunking.
>>63686175
THIS
Is Curry black? Looks Dominican/Cuban
>>63686226
Because what is defense?
>>63686274
He somehow has the athleticism of a Black but the intelligence of a White. If there was ever an argument for race mixing he's it. The perfect human being.
>>63680996
Jordan is a huge cunt off the court that has nothing to do with his on court performance.
>>63686175
>>63686258
Linsanity was amazing. That Toronto game where they were about to lose and someone posted "finally this can be over you retards were wrong" and then Lin hits a game winner was amazing.
>>63686226
And winning finals mvp's.
:^)
>>63686368
>Get low intelligence from your black side
>Get less athletic features from you white side
>race mixing
>The perfect human being
I wonder who can be behind this post
>>63676065
interesting since the bulls were a higher rated defensive team the year after jordan went to go play baseball, but go on...
pip also won 55 games that year without the GOAT lel. how the fuck can you lose the GOAT ever and win 55? makes zero sense, unless your premise is incorrect. jordan never sniffed a win total like that without scottie.
not only is mj not the GOAT, he wasn't even the most valuable player on his team.
>surpass jordan to be #5
>goat
lel, still has 4 spots to go
Is amazing how 1 championship can make someone so overrated so fast
>>63676027
There was literally no such thing as a Warriors fan before 2014. Worse than Royalsfags.
>>63676027
I like Curry but you're a faggoty underage queerboy if you think he's better than Jordan.
Not as dynamic offensively, one-trick pony. Undoubtedly the greatest 3pt shooter I've ever seen though.
Nowhere near as clutch, nowhere near as defensively gifted, nowhere near as complete a player, can't drive the lane for shit, physically weak and it's doubtful he'll come close to approaching MJ's longevity
Underage faggots need to leave.
>>63676027
I really like Curry and he is insanely fun to watch but if he had come into the league when Jordan did he would have been broken in half his first season. The amount of punishment players endured in the 80s would make all these "dominant" players of today's era look like the pussies they are. If Jordan had played in a less physical game with no hand checking he would have averaged 60 points a game and won 12 titles, the dude is without a doubt the greatest athlete of all time.
>>63687256
And lost in tje second round of the playoffs.
Meanwhile
Curry wasn't even the best player in his only finals. Hell he wasn't even the second best player. Curry was basically a sidekick to his first title.
>>63687399
Seriously
Remember how last year everyone was on Kawhi Leonard's dick? How Tim Duncan was the GOAT? How Tony Parker was the best PG in the league?
>mfw with all the constant Warriors and Curry dicksucking the tide of public opinion is slowly turning against them
>mfw everyone's going to have to root for the despised LeBron again by the time the Finals come around
>>63688443
LeBron hate was always a shit meme
>>63688525
>LeBron hate was always a shit meme
how new are you? better question, how OLD are you? everyone hates lebron over the age of 19. he's a smug nigger who pretends he's the greatest thing ever, but can't deliver shit but excuses. the lebron hate wasn't a meme, the lebron love is a meme because everyone knows that's what sparks the faggots who think we're being serious about it.
>>63688525
it was real when he bolted to make a big 3
Curry isn't even on Michael Jordan's level
>>63682071
No he's just facing tougher competition than Jordan had for his finals.
>Suns
>Slowtime Lakers
>The Jazz
>Twice
>George Karl
Only OKC was that bad.
>>63680996
Bruh, Curry's shooting 70 % in the paint.
>>63685374
Some fag who got schooled by the dream every year until they tanked for Duncan
Curry is literally unstoppable
Jordan was taken out of games by Detroit but Curry is literally and objectively unstoppable. Nothing you do can stop him. He can't be stopped.
>>63689546
In the first half of that clippers game CP3 was piledriving curry's boy pussy into submission on both ends of the court
get him into foul trouble and attack him on d, boom hes a non-factor
>>63676027
>113 tasty replies
i'm warming to this meme lads
>>63690559
How many points did Curry end up with in that game?
>>63690559
anyone becomes a non factor when you 'attack him on d' and 'get him into foul trouble'.
you really do have a high basketball iq
>>63690581
they got away from attacking him off the dribble, the entire second half was give it to blake and watch him try to beat everyone on the other team. The offense wasn't organized for the clips past midway through the 2nd. Now i really hate the clips but they did absolutely shut curry down in the first half by doing that, then they stopped in the second (probably because doc is a tard.)
>>63676027
>implying either one of those players is the GOAT
>>63687474
This the dude can only chuck 3s that's it
>>63681248
>Believing in jinxes
>>63694645
Kobe respects it. Why can't you?
>>63681346
so much this.
harden is my nigga, but a lot of his game plan revolves around getting the tag.
that shit didn't fly during the 90's with big gorillas like malone and ewing guarding the paint. if you some 6'2, 180lb mulatto from the suburbs, you gonna catch a black elbow to the nose and be done with that shit.
>>63687432
royals have always been here butthurt faggot
>>63676131
> "only shoots 3s well"
He can also drive to the basket, has handles, and he is one of the best passers
>"is somehow better than the player who has 10 scoring titles, 6 finals mvps, 8 nba defensive 1st teams, 3 steal titles, 5 regular season, and dpoty award"
You do realize that it's the start of the season and Curry is JUST entering his prime. He is only 27 and will get better. He is already on the path to win MVP this season and he will win more rings/titles in the future.
> judges entire career of MJ to 27yr old Curry and doesn't look at potential
Great analysis
>>63705135
Literally nobody is going to stop this warriors team
>>63681433
The New York Knicks of Jordan's era would give the Curry a NYC-style mugging, breaking him in half. Look how scrawny Curry is and how buff Jordan had to get to be able to get past the Bad Boy Pistons and the Thug Knicks.
Scottie Pippen has a permanent scar on his head from a hard foul from the dirty Piston.
>>63694018
100 points.
50 rebounds.
20,000 women. :D
>>63676222
>i'll leave the choice to you
MJ, no question about it
>>63688579
>>63686417
>Jordan is a huge cunt off the court that has nothing to do with his on court performance.
So what? Don't have him over for dinner then. IMO as long as a guy isn't killing schoolchildren on his days off, I couldn't care less if he's not exactly a pleasant person. Judge athletes by what they do on the field/court/ice/cage, not what they do off it.
>>63709878
leave curry to us
>>63681708
>Look at every olympic record over the years for the past several decades: it's only trending up.
That's not evolution, you massive idiot.
>>63687256
>not the best player on the team
>has every scoring title from the championship years
>>63714227
No one could sweat on a guy driving the baseline like Ewing.
>>63708187
Bulls almost did without rose
>>63676027
>confirmed
you haven't watched much basketball.
/thread
>>63688443
this pretty much. ill never be a fan of lebron, but his hoop game is nice. one of the most complete players in a long time. curry can play literally one position, and can barely guard the 1 guards in the west. he aint stopping a single 2 guard.
>>63681403
T-Mac made the finals
>>63676027
You know Jordan is the true GOAT when faggots like op are constantly trying to dethrone him with whomever seems hot.
curry is better at everything compared to jordan except defense.
>>63676900
Holy shit. Some of those dunks are insane.
so has curry surpassed james yet?
>>63700628
>royals
>always been there
Naw, son. You faggots were literally wearing Cardinals hats 3 years ago. Just like Warriors fans were wearing Lakers jerseys.
>>63686368
Colin Kaepernick is half nig and half white and he had two steller years before regressing to shit.
>Michael Jordan Age 39-40 stats
82 GP 37 MPG 1.5 SPG 20 PPG 3.8 APG 6.1 RPG
>Stephen Curry Age 26-27 stats
80 GP 32.7 MPG 2.0 SPG(A Career High) 7.7 APG 4.3 RPG
Despite edging 40 years old he played 82 games with a average of 37 minutes putting up similar stats with MVP Curry. Jordan's crown is still going to be on his head until basketball is dead
