Alright, /sp/.
Let's play a game.
Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali are now both at their absolute prime.
They have a fight tonight.
Who do you bet on?
Ali obviously.
Tyson's borderline retarded, Ali would just bait and goad him the first 3-4 rounds, get Tyson to waste all his energy, and then dominate him from the 5th-8th. Tyson's only hope is to catch him something huge (a big possibility), but Ali was so fucking fast defensively. I doubt Tyson would even be able to get close the first half of the fight
>>63573049
Depends, Ali had a weak chin and Tyson was fast enough that if he catches him once with one of his power punches on the chin it's probably over
>>63573120
I completely agree, but every time tyson missed, he'd be catching a jab to the face that connects more times than not, ali's jabs were bone crushing.
>>63573192
Ali definitely has the advantage no question
Fuck my dick is diamonds with Holm's boxing wrecking Lousey and all the upcoming prizefights
>>63573120
>Ali had a weak chin
What the fuck am i reading
Ali was faster, had better footwork, and more reach.
>>63573238
he just hardly ever got hit. His dodging is unbelievable, sometimes he'd just put his hands down and sit there dodging head shots for like 5-10 seconds
>>63573325
>he just hardly ever got hit
So you've never seen a single fight he had in his 30's then
>>63573336
fair enough, but I dont think anyone can take a prime tyson upper cut that fully connects, and stay standing at the very least.
>>63573395
Why, Foreman and Shavers both hit harder than Tyson and neither of them could finish Ali
>>63573327
GOAT
>>63573408
thats debatable, and they werent as quick. I still think ali would win, but I doubt he'd do it tanking tyson's shots to the face, especially not an ali in his prime
>>63573451
Well no, Tyson wouldn't land a punch on prime Ali
>>63573430
That was an exhibition match when Ali was washed up
You can see the guy wasn't even trying to hit Ali because he didn't even try for body shots while Ali was doing that retarded rope thing
Also it looks sped up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN5LfPtwSG8
>>63573327
This is A okay when Ali does it, but when Mayweather does similar things he's considered a coward and runner.
Tyson is basically Liston without the reach. Ali would win imo, but it would be close.
Mike Tyson is a truly great fighter but way overrated by the general public.
Ali, Foreman, Holyfield, both Klitschko's, Louis, Frazier, all beat Tyson.
The good question would be who wins between Tyson and Marciano (given modern conditioning and diet), that would be a fucking amazing fight.
>>63573238
The truth
Also people remembering sluggers back then should take note than in Ali's time boxing was mostly stand there and trade blows
>>63573519
The one time where I've actually wanted to see Larry Wilmore lead a panel on something.
>>63573527
Except gayweather doesn't do that. He literally just runs away
>>63573451
>thats debatable
No it isn't, Foreman is the biggest puncher in the sports history.
How well would Buster Douglas do against Ali?
>Tyson himself says Ali would beat him
>Hurr i know better
>>63573657
>Tyson himself says Ali would beat him
That pretty much settles it.
>>63573327
Staged as fuck
Any boxer with a brain would just hit his wide open gut instead of aiming for his head
>>63573519
I love Tyson.
He's such a cool guy.
>>63573622
Whatever you say pal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NESTgp5fyTE
I'm pretty sure Tyson was bigger than Ali in their primes.
Ali in the first Liston fight weighed 210 1/3 lbs. Tyson in the Spinks fight weighed 218 1/4 lbs.
>it's another Ali v Tyson debate
Bruce Lee vs Tyson
Who wins?
MARSHALL LAW v MIKE TYSON
Who would win?
>>63574678
Tyson desu, because boxing.
Even in this movie, Jet Li stops using Kung Fu and switches to Boxing to kick his opponents ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wesCVcnMTQ (Start at 1:41)
>inb4 using choreographed fiction as an argument
3 Mike Tysons vs 1 Silverback Gorillas
Who would win?
>>63574901
the three gorillas.
>>63574901
if anything goes and the tysons are prepared to die then my money's on the tysons senpai
>>63574678
Bruce Lee vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Who wins?
>>63574403
That's a pretty small size difference for a heavyweight fight.
Even in his youth, Tyson's ferocity died down after the fourth round. Combine Ali's stamina and prodigious recovering ability he would start fighting back in the 5th round and dominate by the 10th.
>>63573120
Do you jest? His chin was one of the strongest in his time. He took blows from both Foreman and Ernie shavers, two of the hardest hitters you can find. Only person with a better chin than Ali was Chuvalo.
>>63575356
This, I'm like 6'3 200, but I can go up to 210 or down to 190 in under a week
>>63573786
Maybe, but I wouldn't be surprised if that guy was pissed at Ali's audacity and just wanted to punch his silly face
>>63573786
ali was a little shit and would be basically constantly trash talking/fucking with his opponent the whole match.
>>63573120
lmao, ali has ate shots that would take down a fucking building
as for the op, just watch the first round of clay-liston 1, ali was just too elusive
>>63576732
That's Earnie Shavers, right?
Who wins between Larry Holmes and Lennox Lewis in their primes?
>>63577420
yeah
his fight with holmes was amazing to watch
>people falling for achilles ali bait
come senpaitachi come on
>>63573302
>>63573327
hooooly shit
also don't forget about ali's amazing dance moves
>>63573120
Ali took punches from the hardest hitter to ever live ( George Foreman)
If I'm not mistaken Tyson's camp wanted no part of a 40 year old Foreman when Tyson was in his prime..
>>63573302
That's gotta be fake right????
Not even sure Floyd Mayweather or Pernell Whitaker could do that with minimal effort.
>>63572998
Ali beat Smokin Joe Frazier, who was just as brutal of a slugger as Tyson. Mike never beat a guy like Ali.
>>63573120
>Ali has a weak chin
>rope a dope on Foreman
You are retarded.
>implying either of them could win against Mayweather
Tyson would obliterate Ali, anyone that says oherwise is a nostalgia faggot.
>>63579331
This tbqh
>>63573786
Ali is literally close to brain dead now
>>63579076
Roy Jones Jr. could do that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L4PeAjwk5E
>>63579076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efBcVKmbLs8
35:25
that's the fight ali kept yelling "what's my name", cuz terrell didn't call him muhammad ali
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRCVwsIokEw
mike tyson is cool
>>63572998
Rhonda Rousey.
>>63573049
>Tyson's borderline retarded
Ali's IQ is 78.
>>63573527
The difference is that Ali hit after dodging. THAT is boxing.
Gayweather just runs away, takes 1 punch every 5 and somehow the judges still favor him.
Shitty boxer, shitty person, shitty fanboys.
>>63574853
>boxing
>kick
you wat?
>>63579076
nigga was fast as hell
>>63579470
Roy was a freak of nature. But the way A bigger guy like Ali was able to dodge all those punches with minimal effort is insane. He's barely even moving his head wtf.
>>63579795
>>63579956
Cont:
I got more.
Is Ali better than bonecrusher Smith? Smith was the first boxer to go the distance with Tyson. Tall guys with long arms gave Tyson fits.
>>63580117
And just to make it a hat trick.
>>63573049
/thread
People always say Tyson lost the Douglas fight, not that Buster won. Unlike his previous matchups, Buster knew how to fight Tyson. Holyfield knew how to fight Tyson, even way back when, which is why Tyson avoided fighting him.
>>63572998
>Tyson in his prime
>Losing to anyone
Pick one and only one.
http://coxscorner.tripod.com/beat_ali.html
>The one great swarming heavyweight that I would give little chance to beat Ali had they both met in their primes is Mike Tyson. Ali had the perfect ring psychology to defeat Tyson. In Muhammad Ali: His Life and Times by Thomas Hauser, all five people associated with Tyson picked Ali in a dream fight over Tyson. That list included Tyson trainers Kevin Rooney and Teddy Atlas, former manager Bill Cayton, and former D’Amato champions Floyd Patterson and Jose Torres. In the Sept 1988 Ring when Tyson was undefeated and at the peak of his popularity, I had a letter published, "Tyson Versus Heroes of the Past" where I noted Ali's "amazing speed and footwork would easily frustrate Tyson." When Tyson was finally defeated for the first time it was the stick and move tactics of Buster Douglas that defeated him in Ali like fashion.
>Tyson was at his peak at a young age while Ali hit his peak as he matured physically. What if Ali and Tyson both met at age 20? The story here might be different. Tyson peaked early, had the explosive, speed, power, head movement and good defense to get inside on the fighter then known as Cassius Clay. The young Ali had not filled out yet and his ability to take a punch was not quite what it would be later. The left hook of Sonny Banks and also the left hook of Henry Cooper dropped Clay. Tyson was far and away superior over those men in speed, power, punching accuracy and combination punching. Against a young prime Tyson, Clay/Ali is going to get hit with consecutive power shots after being rocked. The 20 year old Tyson knocks out the 20 year old Clay who had not yet reached his prime years.
>>63580415
He was figured out as far back as the Quick Tillis fight, Tillis just didn't have the skills to pull off the win
Tyson would win the first match
Ali would win the next two
>>63580841
Tyson couldn't fight on the inside.
>>63579924
Here's another example of RJJ being insanely athletic.
