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BTFO
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http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/14100780/newyork-attorney-general-declares-daily-fantasy-sports-gambling
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>>63479863
I was first faggot

>>>63479859
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good riddance, hopefully other places outlaw them too
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>>63479878

I'll be posting in this thread
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>>63479878
shit thread tbhfam
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>>63479863
Lel. I've been waiting for this.
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>mfw the thousands of ads will finally dissappear
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This should be a sticky. Today is a great day for sports fans everywhere
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>>63479909
probably not though, they'll just have to add a "not valid for residents of NY" disclaimer
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God dammit.
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>Go after draftking and fanduel

>Not that one Rich Eisen does commercials for
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today is a good day
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JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
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Nice freedom you got there murica
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Its like when there was all those Poker sites 6-8 years ago
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>>63479909
yfw replaced by more truck and boner pill commercials
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Finally we can go back to non-stop truck and retirement commercials.
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That's PUNTERRR
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This won't stand unfortunately.
They will challenge this and win.

In the Internet Gambling Act, as signed by congress, there is a specific exemption made for Fantasy Sports Leagues.

The only way this is going away permanently is if congress amends the law.
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>>63479965
It technically isn't a league if it only lasts one day
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>>63479950
Don't forget boner pills
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>>63479949
>When you take a bonermoth pill and you end up in a Coma
#Pray4Lamar
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>banned in Nevada
>banned in New York

just 48 more to go
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It's a nice start
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>Eric Schneiderman

OY VEY GOYIM! Your business is illegal under Jew York state law! You need to give me 50 shekels to continue operating in my state!
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>>63479972
It will go to court either day
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>>63479991
I love how these tards stumble over their lines but they decided to use it in the commercial anyway
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>>63479990
Are these attourney generals retarded?

They are internet sites.
They don't exist in ANY specific state.
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>>63479965
Not a lawyer, but I'm not sure that would apply. Actual wording of the fantasy exception to the law:

‘‘(I) All prizes and awards offered to winning
participants are established and made known to
the participants in advance of the game or contest
and their value is not determined by the number
of participants or the amount of any fees paid
by those participants.
‘‘(II) All winning outcomes reflect the relative
knowledge and skill of the participants and are
determined predominantly by accumulated statistical
results of the performance of individuals (athletes
in the case of sports events) in multiple realworld
sporting or other events.
‘‘(III) No winning outcome is based—
‘‘(aa) on the score, point-spread, or any
performance or performances of any single
real-world team or any combination of such
teams; or
‘‘(bb) solely on any single performance of
an individual athlete in any single real-world
sporting or other event.


Aren't these sites based on number of participants?
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>>63480003
The users do
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>>63480003
That's why they're not arguing the sites can't exist. It's just that they can't do business with people who live there.
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>>63479990
They're already illegal in about five other states. Wyoming for the worst reason of all.

>The Wyoming state lottery banned FanKings because they run their own daily fantasy contests
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>>63480005
They explicitly follow all of those rules.
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>Eric Schneiderman
/pol/ is always right
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>>63480032
Then I suppose we'll see what the lawyers come up with.
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>>63479863
Does it mean that we'll no longer have commercials for it?

PLEASE TELL ME THIS.
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but my job
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Ahh the casino lobby paid off the politicians

This country is literally garbage
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Non-lawfag here. Why is the lottery still allowed to exist (apart from the fact that the government makes money form it)? That's gambling that requires less skill than online sports drafts.
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>>63480032
What about III bb ?
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What is wrong with americans?

How are you so dumb that you celebrate something being banned?
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>land of the free
>literally the biggest government in history
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>>63479863

I have mixed feelings about this
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>>63480061
Fantasy contests are based on leagues of players, not single individuals, so they're obviously obeying that rule.
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The only thing good that could happen is Yellowstone erupting. I fucking hate statists.
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>>63480077
This

Somalia is GOAT country
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>>63480060
most of the state lotteries fund scholarships so I'd guess they argue it doesn't cause overall harm or something, not a lawfag either though
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Why does the government insist on telling us how we spend our money? Why don't they just allow gambling? I legitimately don't understand it
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>>63480060
>Why is the lottery still allowed to exist (apart from the fact that the government makes money form it)?

You just answered your own question.
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>>63479863

>Schneiderman

Dirty NY kikes have to stick their hands into everything. This was cutting in to their lotto and horse racing profits so the Jews do what they do best and Shut It Down. I don't even play this shit and this decision pisses me off. Big government interfering and sucking the fun out of everything because they can't get their cut. At least the ads will stop hopefully.
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>>63480091
>i-it's not as bad as somalia!

good goyim, vote republicandemocrat you blithering ignorant zilch
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>>63480097

because you live in a country full of morons, look at the reactions in this thread.
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missing the big picture as to why gambling is illegal to begin with
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Been playing Draftkings for a couple of months now. Regularly win money in NBA games. I never got the hate for it around here desu. If you religiously follow a certain sport it's easy to win some money playing those games, cuz a lotta ppl don't follow sports that close and just enter whatever.

But the reality is that this just affects New Yorkers. There are fuckhuge investors backing Fanduel and Draftkings. The NBA, Disney, NFL, NASCAR, etc.. If some AG wants to get all uppity that's cool, but DFS isn't going away. They have enough powerful people backing them to fight and win.
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>>63480097
>Why don't they just allow gambling?

Because the casino lobby gives the government lots of money to preserve their monopoly on gambling.
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>>63480071
enemy of my enemy is my friend
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>>63480085
That's interesting. Point (aa) deals specifically with a team or teams, and point (bb) deals with a single individual (NOT individuals).

It seems like they should win because of that loophole where it falls somewhere between (aa) and (bb) by being a group of individuals that are not a team. Weird but very creative.
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>>63479863
so does this mean i wont see their ads during every fucking commercial break now?
TYBNYJEWS
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>>63480005
This is actually an interesting discussion we're having now
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>>63479863
SHIEETT. Rushing to withdraw my $3,000 from my account. Fuck my state,
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>>63480071
Why do you celebrate your country being overrun by shady gambling institutions? What is so great about it?
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This thread makes no sense, I genuinely don't understand why people would ever celebrate this

Even if you don't like it this is the government stopping interactions between willing adults, it can never be a positive thing
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Why are so many people scared of the gambling boogey man? Who fucking cares if it's gambling or a game of skill, it's somewhere in between, but really who fuckin cares?
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>>63480071
Nothing more annoying than talking about a sport only for MUH FANTASY fags show up.
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>>63480097
See >>63480108

And because many of the people that still hold power are moralistic fucks from the baby boomer era still holding on. When they die off, it'll swing back the other way.

>tfw my generation will ban gay marriage, diagnose homosexuality as a disease, and legalize gambling everywhere
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Enter Promo Code "KEKED"
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No shit.

Fantasy sports is gambling, it's legal not because it isn't gambling, it's legal because fantasy sports were explicitly exempted from the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006.

Only one way to kill this shit.
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>>63480156

They have the freedom to choose whether they want to spend their money that they earned on gambling. We have our government saying they know better than us
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>>63480141
It's not really that creative. They didn't design their contests based on that law, they wrote the law specifically to allow their contests. The loophole was created by them for them.
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>>63480169

It only affects New York residents, and a couple of other states don't allow their residents either. So since these sites have your billing address, if you're in one of the 3 states that it's not allowed they won't let you play.
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For real not allowing online poker is one of the most fucked up things about the US
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>>63480117
Yeah, the AG fucked up hard too. They sent a cease-and-desist letter but so far haven't outed why it's illegal.
The only argument one could make is that it qualifies as "sports gambling" but it's bit of a stretch based on the letter of the law.
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>>63480169
Its more that we are happy we dont have to see these commericals three times in one segment block, the fuckings advertising for these sites is everywhere and its annoying.

I dont see what wrong with them either I just dont want to see a ad for the fucking thing everywhere I turn
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fantasy sport leagues are exempt, daily fantasy isn't
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>>63480156
This
FanDuel/DraftKings ads are fucking tame compared to commercial breaks on BP sports.
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>>63480220

So it's gonna go back to pick up truck commercials and shitty movie trailers?
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>>63480212
It's why your country if full with degenerates while mine isn't.
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>>63480212
Agreed m8. I can only play on shady sites now because the government kicked all the legit ones out. thanks america
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>>63479996
How is Comcast and those monopoly cable companies legal?
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>>63480057
I actually really enjoy Matthew Berry's commentary and stuff. I think I'd be pretty upset if he got the axe.
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>>63479909
>>63479950
>>63480046
>>63480145
>>63480220

>thinking that getting b&d in one state means the commercials are gone forever
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>>63480201
>The loophole was created by them for them.
'no'

DFS didn't exist till after UIGEA
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Daily fantasy is fun as hell. This AG just trying to make a name for himself.

Anyway, I look forward to makin a little money tonight.
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>>63480057
How does someone who has studied Finance in top business schools get a job on TV?
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>>63480234
Its not better but one less is better than one more
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>>63480097
See

>>63480058
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Why is it exactly that /sp/ hates fanduel and draftkings? Is it all their commercials or what?

I mean the reality of their contests seems to be something that autistic /sp/ neckbeards would love. Using muh advanced stats and math to figure out optimal lineups.
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>New York
>relevant
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>>63480263
The UIGEA carve-out was made due to lobbying by sports leagues, specifically the NFL.

>2015
>not realizing that DFS and sports leagues have been in bed with each other from the start
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>>63480268
Using your lineup in a gpp. Thanks senpai.
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>>63480324
>the financial capital of the world
>not relevant

How is it like living in some irrelevant shithole you call a city?
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>>63480316
probably because these threads are mostly filled with fish who signed up for the sites thinking it would be super easy and lost their money
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>>63479881
>unironically being a statist
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>>63480316
Because not everyone's a degenerate gambler. Some of us have Christian morals.
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>>63480367
t. 16 year old who just found /pol/
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>>63480367
bait
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>>63480343

>muh rich people

Nice "culture" you have there, amigo.
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>Andrew Cuomo banning something because he can't accept the fact that people other than him are swindling money from people

No surprise desu. I want out of this Hellhole.
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i'm gonna be a little upset if Michigan goes next, fanduel hockey and baseball is a nice little time waster i do at work

just like when real money pokerstars went down, another little fun time waster
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>>63480316
>Is it all their commercials or what?

pretty much
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>>63480071
I don't get it either tbhfam, perhaps they're just butthurt that they lost money or something
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>>63480113
why is it? enlighten me senpai
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>>63480316
Lots of young liberal college aged "fuck capitalism, government needs to do more!!!" pseudo-intellectuals from reddit browse and post here unfortunately
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>>63480097

Because the endgame of the state is the expansion of its own power.

You could be supporting Rand Paul right now to stop this, but you idiots went full-in on Donald Chump because of memes/edgy things he said about Mexicans.
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>>63480112
this so much amerifats are sooo stupid its toooo funny.
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>>63480071
I fucking hate fantasy. I hope every single fantasy sports garbage gets banned. Fantasy fags are the single biggest cancer of sports fans I've seen. They don't even follow the game. They just decide to play fantasy and act like they know about sports so they can impress their friends.
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>>63480071
Because fantasy sports is fucking stupid and their commercials are annoying as fuck.
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>>63480123
and how is it your enemy?
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>>63480181
>mfw the only things I know about the NFL are because of fantasy and that's all I can contribute to a conversation
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>>63480461
because their commercials are awful
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>>63480448
>Rand Paul

xDDDDDDDDDD
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>>63480169
>Britcukk is the only libertarian in the entire thread

have I stumbled upon some kind of bizarro 4chan?
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>>63480328
>The UIGEA carve-out was made due to lobbying by sports leagues
Yes, to maintain the legality of FANTASY SPORTS, not fucking DFS.

DFS would have been legal BEFORE UIGEA, but it didn't exist until AFTER.

Arguing that the exemption was "for dfs by dfs" is full fucking retard
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>>63480181
kill urself. not like you have anything else important to talk about pussy
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>>63480071
>>63480459
basically this. even though I play fantasy leagues and enjoy them I hate seeing that shit plastered all over the tv, I don't want to hear a single word about fantasy football while I'm watching the game.

Can you imagine all the announcers during the World Cup just talking about spreads and stats that only matter to gamblers?
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>>63480489
Shut the fuck up you maple dick fagboi
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>>63480387
Fuck you. Cuomo is based. Then again, it's not hard to be based when the reference point is Bill Dekekio
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>"I'm a normal looking guy like you and wearing normal looking clothes like you do and I won $2,538,832 in one month on Fanduel"
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>>63480475

That's no way to treat a man who filibustered to end the Patriot Act and protect your freedoms, Anon.
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>>63479878
fuck your bread. that's not how it works. it's whoever starts getting the traffic. eat shit m8.
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>>63479863
>Schneiderman said, in the letters, that he has been "concerned to learn from health and gambling experts that daily fantasy sports appears to be creating the same public health and economic problems associated with gambling, particularly for populations prone to gambling addition and individuals who are unprepared to sustain losses lured by the promise of easy money."

fuck off
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>>63480108
This. It's easier to collect money from a plot of land than overseas internet servers. Fuck big government, fuck liberals, and especially fuck the kikes.
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>>63480504

My Dad went to Fordham with Cuomo. According to him he's always been an enormous douche.
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>Less opponents I have to play against
Feels good man. Thanks Jew York for the help.
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>>63480513
>something should be illegal because stupid people might spend their money on something I don't want them to!
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>>63480003
you are a moron
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>>63480459
>I don't like this, so it should be banned
>STOP LIKING THINGS I DONT LIKE

no better than the people who constantly cry and demand that /pol/ and /mlp/ be deleted
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so the only argument against fanduel is annoying commercials?

do you want beer banned because they have equally awful commercials?

and it's not like the end of DFS is the end of football commentators mentioning fantasy points, there's still millions in leagues to pander to
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>>63480566
I don't think on principle it should be banned

but I'm not going to lose an ounce of sleep over it, given it benefits me directly.
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>>63480566
ends justify the means
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just liberals getting what they want
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>>63480169

They are mostly celebrating because they cant stand the commercial. Neither can I but I dont agree that this stuff should be banned
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>>63480097
because "experts" said that gambling is dangerous and ruins families. :)
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>>63480484
Thought it was pretty weird too, wtf America

People can go spend their whole paycheck at Habib's Scratch-Off and Lotto stand but I have to go on a boat into international waters to bet on a sports game
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>>63480560
Is that you, patriot pony?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FFVWEQnSM
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>>63480448

>Rand

If i wanted an SJW candidate I would just vote hillary
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might move to nevada or new york desu senpai

I can't take much more
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>>63480071
Liberals and retards. Liberals are fighting for censorship and retards want all things that are fun banned.
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>>63480619
but it doesn't, rather the means (freedom) justifies the ends (gambling staying legal)
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>being able to throw away your money on shady, rigged betting sites is something people think has anything to do with freedom or liberty
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>>63480097
Casino Jews don't want to let that happen.
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>>63480183
>implying this could ever happen when "muh right side of history" is considered a valid argument
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>>63480736
>I can't win so the game must be rigged

lol hi fish
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>>63480736
leave it to an american to tell someone how to spend their money classic, i love how ameritards are literally the dumbest scum of the earth.
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>>63480736

There's literally nothing stopping you from picking a winning lineup.
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>>63480212
This. Bring Pokerstars back desu
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>>63480769
I've never played
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I think they'd probably use that information about the employees using insider information to win big in the other company as some kind of evidence that it's not a true fantasy game based on skill.
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>>63480220
Do you want pick up trucks and beer banned too? How about Samsung and Apple? Microsoft?
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>>63479863
I live on the border of New York and New Jersey. Could I set my lineup in New Jersey and be ok, or is this a ban based on residence?
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People thinking government gives two fucks about you getting fucked out of money.

They just want their cut.
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>>63480734
You're missing what I'm saying. I want the commercials to end, if that means giving up gambling freedom then so be it.
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>>63480736
>it's up to the government to stop me from losing my March Madness bracket money through the internet
No. I should be able to do whatever dumbshit I want with my money as long as the sites keep their end of the bargain on fairness.

How we let congress ban online poker, I'll never know. That's not a game of skill, but guessing how many TDs someone else will score is?
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>>63480736

How is it rigged, stupid?

It's a combination of luck and skill.
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>ITT NEETs on /sp/ are mad others make enough money to have fun on things like this
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>>63480815

I don't like beer commercials, so we should do prohibitio 2.0 to stop them. So be it.

Are you guys really this fucking retarded?
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>>63480803
Wouldn't the insider information thing mean it is based on skill? If having access to the lineups used by the best players gives you a big edge, then that implies the best players possess a skill which makes them profitable.
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>>63480842
I wouldn't mind that desu
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>>63480841
i make shit money and i still have fun on it

it's more about picking the lineup and going through the stats really

but they're just mad about the advertisements
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>dumbass niggers here trying to shill their site here

kek
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>>63480820
employers from this sites play on other sides with inside informations which gives them the edge. not long ago the guy who works for draftkings got second in millionaire maker on fanduel. it's rigged.
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>>63479863

Muh VPN

get fucked
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>>63480864
I made a profit too and had fun. I think these retards don't do research, lost and got mad.

All commercials are annoying as fuck, so that argument is shit.
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>>63480848
That the game was vulnerable to that manipulation suggests that it is unfair in design. Those people weren't winning based on sports knowledge, they were winning because they knew what other teams were picking.
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>>63480869

1. Those guys got busted and employees from both companies are not allowed to play anymore. These companies are still relatively young and are making up rules as they go along.

2. Other than that, my chances of winning cash are still good. Somebody else having an edge (not saying it's right) doesn't stop me from doing my homework and picking the best lineup I can pick.
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>>63480904
That doesn't mean the game was unfair, it just means someone cheated. The patriots try to cheat every time they can, it doesn't mean football is designed unfairly.
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>>63480869
1) I think each company banned their own employees from playing on the other sites
2) How is it insider information if it comes from somewhere else? Put together your own collection of fantasy predictions and publicly available numbers and use it. The draftkings employee did it better
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>>63480042
Thissssss
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>>63480904

Obviously it happened, but don't understand how a guy knowing what other teams are picking helps him.

If he has knowledge that 60% of users and picking Drew Brees as their QB, does that mean he is gonna pick Drew Brees as well (or not?) You gotta assume most users are morons so how would an insider use that info to his advantage?
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>>63479878
Your thread sucks lol. KYS, ma man
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>>63480736

>tfw I know someone working on a math phd at an east coast ivy league who uses department supercomputers to run an algorithm he built to pick winning teams

Hes made a fuck ton of money.

No point in playing when you play against bots, scripts or fucking employees of the other company.

>mfw all these fan duel shills posting in this thread

shouldnt you faggots be betting on draftkings or something? gtfo my board.
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I would trade DFS for Pokerstars desu senpai
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>>63480991

I call BS. How the fuck is this "supercomputer" picking winners against the spread?
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lol i just made an account today too. At least it's only NY for now...
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Stuff like this is why I always laugh at americans when they brag about their freedom.

I'd take gambling, drinking at 16 and legal prostitution over being able to deny the holocaust anyday :^)
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>>63480993
agreed tbqh
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This shit was actually fun. Fuck those jew kekolds
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>>63481023
You don't have to pick winners against the spread, you just have to pick the best performing players. That's the point of DFS, you aren't playing against the bookies, you're playing against random idiots who don't know as much as you.
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>>63481031
Fucking this. Why are all of you so brainwashed by our government?
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>Kek York

I'll be playing Draft Kings alllll week long
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>>63480949
I doubt it's the crux of the argument but it seems like it could come up as establishing reckless behavior and lack of foresight on the part of the companies. They didn't have proper safeguards against it.
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>>63481062
>department supercomputers to run an algorithm he built to pick winning teams

This is what the guy posted.

FanDuel isn't about "teams", it's about individual player achievements. The Patriots might destroy the Rams in this simulation, but Gurley would run all over their defense.
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>>63481094
>implying lotteries haven't been rigged
>states still allow powerball and pick-5
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>>63480991
whoa thats cool i use almost the same thing on fantasypros for free and its made me money!
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>>63481122
I'm sure they'd bring it up if they were going against lotteries but they aren't
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>>63481140
Because the states are partners with lotteries.
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>>63481140
They arent going against lottery because they get their cut

They are going against Fanduel and Drafkings because they arent getting as much of a cut as they like and people are making money but not them.
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>>63481163
>>63481168
I'm aware of this. I'm just saying they're going to bring up the employee betting most likely.
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>>63480448
>not fully supporting Bernie Sanders
shiggy diggy
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>>63480150
>yfw both companies are actually pyramid schemes and declare bankruptcy as the result of a massive run on their moneypool

>yfw it could all have been prevented if the jews in charge of DK/FD would have just paid off the jews in the government
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>mizzou shit happens
>takes 13 hours for the news story to reach 1k comments and 6k shares
>NY AD says DFS are illegal
>30 minutes

everything that is wrong with this country
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>>63480459
Kill yourself faggot
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>>63481674
>Mizzou affects only the couple thousands students who attend that school
>shitty daily fantasy sites harass millions

Come on man
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>>63481764
fantasy nigger detected
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>have a great lineup all performing well tonight
>good chance to win some decent money since I should be able to get between 300-330 pts
>Andrew Wiggins is a late scratch
>my lineup officially ruined
>mfw
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While I think gambling should be legal, fuck Fan Duel and Draft Kings.
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>>63479863
surprised it took this long
its clearly gambling, not that theres anything wrong with it
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I just want Pokerstars back. The U.S. sites suck now. Bovada tournaments are pretty good though.
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>>63481050
W H O
H
O
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>>63482346
>tfw when a degenrate gets his due
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>>63480543
I don't even doubt that. I'm just saying as a politician he's aight. I don't have to eat dinner with the fucker. Also I took some classes at fordham this summer. Nice campus in the middle of the ghetto in the bronx.
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why does /sp/ have draftkings/fanduel so much?
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>>63480057
Is this picture implying she finishes in the money 90%+ of the leagues she joins? What in the fuck?
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>>63482777
Because they're a scam and their incessant advertising
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>>63480296
Cause she met a hedgefund boyfriend in school and now can just get pretty every day in front of a camera.
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>>63479949
boner pills would be cool if they had coupon codes. Use coupon codes Tittyfk and get $15 free pills
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>>63482835
how are they a scam?
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>>63480025
desu if would be cool if we had state meme leagues like the state lotto, California is big enough for it to work
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>>63480233
my favorite EPL team is shadybett.ru
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>>63480493
I remember when fantasy sports used to be for turbo statistics autists
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>>63482927
>titty fucking
overated meme fucking
>not hot dogging a high test bunda
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>>63483017
"high test" literally is a meme tho
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>>63480541
also fuck conservatives too

Jew York already banned dodgeball remember that
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>>63480316
its rigged, 90% of the time someone related to the website wins
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>>63481050
hottest pic Ive seen on the internet desu
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>>63480183
>tfw my generation will ban gay marriage, diagnose homosexuality as a disease, and legalize gambling everywhere

stop projecting,all of it will be legalize
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this nba lineup won 50k tonight
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>>63483109

That's not true. The big winners are usually totally random single entry people that get lucky as hell.

The sharks play like 100 entries in games and bank on being in the money more than they're out of the money.
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>>63483652
takes lots of skill to pick that lineup to be honest (desu)
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>put int $20
>spend 3 weeks get up to $250 and think I'm hot shit
>3 weeks later down to $15

What a creative and fun way to lose $5 this shit is
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>>63483695

or being a cavs homer lel
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>>63479998
That's probably intentional to make them seem like REAL AUTHENTIC PEOPLE.
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So if it's a game of skill then it's not gambling? How is poker gambling then?

I play daily fantasy sports and there's definitely skill involved. When I started I was shit, but once I figured out what I was doing wrong I was able to improve big time. Either in the money or close to it in any contest I enter, barring an injury that fucks me over.

But ultimately I don't see the issue either way. It does take skill but that shouldn't matter. DK and Fanduel are both taxed, winnings are taxed, it's being as closely regulated now as anything.

People have fun casually gambling, and for those who have a serious problem, well that's their problem. I mean alcohol is legal and we aren't trying to bring back prohibition cuz alcoholics don't know when to stop.
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>>63484424
skill doesn't get you a royal flush. luck does
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>>63484520

They're actually quite similar, DFS and poker.

There's a fuckton of skill involved, but ultimately you can always lose to someone who gets lucky as shit.

But yeah, gambling being considered evil and shit is so dated. I waste my money on booze, video games, clothes, my gf, gas, and all kinds of other shit. If I wanna drop a couple bucks in a fantasy game every once in a while that's my business.
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>>63482407

>playing on jokerstars

shit was the worst, worst fucking callstation players on any site, constant suckouts because all 9 other players would call everything.
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>>63482818

probably gets the insider info from whoever's dick she sucks at those sites.
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>>63484615
>not wanting to play with calling stations

know how I know you suck at poker?
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The difference between the poker sites and the DFS sites is the investors behind them. Poker sites were a Vegas creation. Big money but not big influence or rep. The kinda guys that'll bail when shit goes down.

Fanduel and Draftkings are business partners with our sports leagues. From Adam Silver and the NBA, to NASCAR, to Disney and ESPN and so on. You think some AG trying to make a name for himself is gonna win this war? If shit really wants to hit the fan this will eventually go to the Supreme Court and take several years.
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>>63484632

>I can't do math

9 people one of them is always going to catch.
retard
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>>63484671
lol you're such a fish lmao
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>>63484615

just tighten up your range idiot
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>>63484424
>blah blah blah

Get a real job you fucking failure
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>>63482346
>even buying Wiggins

lol
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>>63482407
T H I S
H
I
S

I don't give a damn about DFS
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>>63484720
good goy
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>>63484520
You're retarded if you think poker involves no skill.
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>>63484720

I make $64,500/year.

Daily fantasy is a hobby, not a way to pay my bills.

>>63484757

He was literally a last minute add. I had a lineup with Derozan and changed it to Eric Gordon, and then was like nah Wiggins can get me some boards and maybe a block or two. Just fucked it all up senpai.
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>>63484801
People can't get it through their heads that others can play this as a hobby for fun and make some money here and there. They automatically think everyone on these sites are playing thousand dollar buy ins and are addicted. Fucking annoying desu senpai
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>amerifats whining but going out ultimately just going out with a whimper
same happened with muh online poker. vegas runs gambling or whatever they want to classify as gambling. anyone/thing on their shit list radar is F-ed in the A
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>>63484830

I only play with money I plan on losing. I'm not dropping 100 bucks into contests or anything because I have a lot better things I can do with 100 dollars.

But yeah man, just a hobby playing the small games for fun. Even if it's a 25 cent game I'm all into all the NBA games that night following them to see how my boys are doing. It just makes it more exciting following a game I already love.
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>>63484888

>implying I'm not celebrating

lmao
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>>63479990
EVERYONE knew Vegas wasn't having that shit.
Back in the day, the DuelKings/FanDuel owners would have gone "mysteriously missing".
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You think if sports betting became legal that rigging would intensify?
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>>63484888

Online poker had anonymous investors (Vegas investors) who wanted no part of a legal battle.

Daily fantasy has mega huge television networks and literally our sports leagues, and the owners.

Apples and oranges. If they wanna kill DFS it'll get taken all the way to the Supreme Court, and that'd likely take years. In the meantime, elected officials can do what they can to ban it for the residents in their state, but no federal ban is coming any time in the near future.

My prediction, DFS wins and is legal in every state, but it takes a couple of years to sort out. If you're in Nevada or New York now you're SOL.
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>>63484916

No.

Because sports betting is illegal (mostly everywhere), is as rampant as imaginable, and no Vegas rigging has been found in quite some time...in any sport.

Legalizing it would regulate and tax it, it'd bring more watchdogs and the IRS (who catch every fuck up). If anything, legalizing sports gambling would clean up our sports.

IIRC there were rumors about Jameis Winslow shaving 1st half points last year w/one of his buddies placing bets.

That shit doesn't happen if it's legal, because every single bet is recorded along with that person's information. Any tampering is caught a lot easier when everything is in the open and regulated as opposed to being done on shady sites and backroom bookie joints.
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>>63484424
>So if it's a game of skill then it's not gambling?
No.

It's gambling, but fantasy sports were exempt from the US's online gambling law
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>>63484992

>no Vegas rigging has been found in quite some time

Tell that to the Sacramento Kings.
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>>63485795
The only reason anyone still bitches about this is because the Kings have been in the toilet ever since it happened FIFTEEN YEARS AGO.
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>>63479863
>based Conan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKVrj_rN6dQ
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>>63484992
Illegal or legal betting

It's all geared to get rob degenerate gamblers
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>>63484424
Gambling has ruined sport from the beginning of time
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Had over $4 in winnings.

fuck them
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>>63485924

Doesn't matter. He said that Vegas hadn't rigged any matches in a long time and that's not accurate.
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