loveless sex is objectification and objectification of others is universally regarded as bad and immoral. discuss
I feel objectification happens when there's no respect. I can fuck someone's brains out regularly and feel no attachment but still respect them as a human being. Maybe I'm in the minority
>>23819322
You're still using them as a sex object which is not respectful. That's means you have a "use" for them. But objects have use, people don't. People are just like you, useless. Interacting with others serves an objective, however, in which case the interaction itself is the object serving a purpose, not the other person.
>>23819309
Boobs r gud tho
>>23819390
So? I never said they weren't. Physical desire is healthy. Nobody wants to shag an asexual. This is entirely a conversation about afterwards.
>>23819425
Nah. Your premise is flawed, as has been pointed out. So long as both (or all) parties are aware and there's respect all around, there is no objectification. Stop imposing your moral standards on others.
>>23819309
>loveless sex is objectification
Bullshit premise. Nothing to discuss.
I think all sex that's enjoyable is objectifying. I've never had romantic feelings for girls I wasn't attracted to, so I think all sexual relationships are objectifying to some extent.
>>23819309
consensual objectification is perfectly cool
non-consensual objectification, much like non-consensual sex is not cool
therefore consensual loveless sex may be objectification, but it's okay
>>23819309
False.
>morality
>>23819309
Your first problem is you aren't defining "love" in your moral-conundrum context. As-is, we can define "love" as a plethora of meanings, and therefore we never reach your moment of "objectification" which you claim would be immoral.
I can love someone as a friend. My friend and I could also fuck like bunnies. The love is there - just not the love you're thinking of. As such, we are not objectifying each other.
>>23819309
>objectification of others is universally regarded as bad and immoral.
[citation needed]
Objectification is actually universally practiced. It is a broken society that would condemn it's own primary basic function.
>loveless sex is objectification
Sex is no more or less special than any other human activity. If you hug someone and do not love them, is this objectification? Or are you simply guilty of not loving your fellow human beings by default?
OP is a virgin.
