I'm curious as to what /soc/ thinks of strippers.
> How do you feel about them?
>Or sex workers in general? >What generalizations do you perceive from stripping? >Do you have any stories or experiences to share?
tl;dr what do you think of strippers?
>>22905516
Meh, not like she's getting fucked by strangers. It's respectable
>>22905516
well since i did it for about a year when i was 18. and have the "skill,talent,assets" to scam guys out of their money. its a very smart move.but only if you dont get into the drugs and get lost in that world. but from what i saw. 80% of the strippers are trash.
nothing to say about sex workers.
Strippers are fun as fuck as long as you realize that they're not really into you and just want your money. I've found that most of them will do just about anything for enough money, and some have seemed to enjoy it. I've never fucked one, but I've had my cock sucked a few times and once ate a stripper's pussy. It was the tiniest twat I've ever seen. I couldn't resist.
>>22905516
is that stripper a man?
>>22905516
>How do you feel about them?
Did it once, left with blue balls and a "wtf?" feeling. Absolute waste of money in my opinion.
>sex workers in general?
I was with a prostitute once. It was pretty good, I'd do that again.
>What generalizations do you perceive from stripping?
Why would any sane man pay hundreds of dollars for something they can see for free at home?
>Do you have any stories or experiences to share?
Strip-club: like I said, was pretty fucking boring and expensive. I left frustrated af.
Prostitute: Found "escort" listing online. met her in a little 1 bd 1 bth cottage in a low-income neighborhood. paid $150 for a good 45 minutes of nice fucking. got to bust inside (while wearing a condom).
I love strippers.
Stripclubs are churches where you worship women.
It's not something you're supposed to get off on. You go there, sit there and just enjoy looking at women and having them rub themselves on you.
>>22905516
Almost all sex worker girls set of huge alarm bells in my head as soon as I see their eyes. Very few don't look like predatory grey wolves.
Same with porn stars and many "professional" cam whores, I've never seen a prostitute IRL because Sweden bans it and you have to explicitly look for them.
I don't think I could fuck or even touch a person like that, my inner Chekist would take over and promptly make me excuse myself.
>>22905661
Am I right about the "sexual predator" part?
>>22905516
Whores. I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with one. Same as most people on here.
What about male sex workers?
>>22906618
Must be awful to try to get a boyfriend if you're a sex worker. Somehow it feels like I wouldn't believe a word that came out of her mouth.
>>22906627
male sex workers apply as well!
I've been to 3 strip clubs ever.
One In Sydney, went with some males and females and it was just a fun atmosphere more than anything else.
One in Tokyo went by myself to see how it compared, they didn't do much dancing, didn't show much off outside of the private booth. A waste over all.
One in Vegas, this was the weirdest one for me. The performances were pretty cool.
Got a private dance and based on movies and TV I thought the rule was you can't touch the girls. She told me I could then the guards passing by looked like they wanted to jump me but they didn't. She also seems weirdly into licking inside of my ears.
THEN she sujested the "more privater" booth which she explained that I lay down and she dances standing over me.
She got into a crab walk position over me to block the camera then single handedly undid my pants and gave me an hj.
So yeah, got surprised with the most ridiculous hj ever and got an ear full of striper spit. Good times.
>>22905516
>How do you feel about them?
They are cool. Probably good looking. I don't care too much personaly.
>sex workers in general?
I love porn performers for obvious reasons. Sex workers tend to be generally pretty cool and educated people with good confidence from what I got from interviews and few AMAs. Also usually with solid understanding of psychology.
>tfw no Romanian camwhore gf
>What generalizations do you perceive from stripping?
"le stupid slut, le std, le can't keep relationships" and shit like that. It's funny as fuck how men disrespect them but would pay for service.
>>Do you have any stories or experiences to share?
D-does discussing photography and Crimean crisis with a Bulgarian camgirl counts?
Never been to a strip club before so no personal experiences. No desire to either unless it's a male one.
> How do you feel about them?
No opinion really. If they have the body that's worth the money then do that. Don't think I could ever date a stripper though, unless it was far back in the past.
>Or sex workers in general?
Same as before. As long as they keep work that way and don't slut about or coke up not on the job then it's fine.
>What generalizations do you perceive from stripping?
Failed school and someone hooked them up with the job.
>Do you have any stories or experiences to share?
I got a strip dance on gta a couple of times
>>22906794
I've read some interviews like that, they're obviously manipulative to play off of their porn persona. It's just advertising.
>>22906867
There is no (realistic way anybody would take) faking a Biology degree and the likes, or what do you mean?
>>22906904
That's not what I mean. I mean that they come off as incredibly manipulative. A lot of them also have this "glassy eyed" look like they're locked behind a mask.
>>22906920
Ah, dunno about that, I don't pay too much attention about pictures in an interview ... since I saw enough of the performer to be interested beyond look.
>>22906944
I didn't mean their physical appearance, I mean their emotional vibes.
Or do you have trouble reading people?
>>22906980
I've also read interviews with hookers that state that they never orgasm with their clients and that they desperately try not to do so, or even enjoy it a little bit, because then they can pretend that what they're doing isn't sex.
>>22906980
Well, you talked about dem "glassy eyed" looks, so I thought you were focusing on appearance. Also I am more interested in the content than form/voice, so the vibes don't matter for me. Though I forgot when I read my last one.
>Oh yeah, you’re in the adult industry. How did that happen?
>I was really horny.
You mean shit like that, no?
>>22907050
Well, obviously not all are as well adjusted as they pretend to be in build a wall of denial about their activity. That's the ones who might get damaged by the work and probably should've never started.
>>22907081
Yeah. It's nasty. I couldn't be around people who do stuff like that.
I'm madly in love with a stripper. She used to be an escort. It kills me.
It's just a way of earning money.
>>22907224
Did you use to be one of her clients?
No.
I asked to see her and she invited me to her strip club. I don't read in to it.
>>22907273
Ew. She didn't discuss things further with you?
I'm sure she has her reasons. I've got a lot of shit to work out first any way. If I still love her when I'm in a better place I'll talk to her.
>>22907332
Yeah. Reasons like feeling like she's constantly sexually dominated, humiliated and used (and not in a good way) and therefore maintains her sanity by luring guys to spend money on her so she can feel like she's in control of her life.
Fuck that shit, she's just tugging at your heartstrings and playing with you.
I'm amazed that this got so many responses. I am asking because I work in a club and I am curious as to what others think of my "coworkers". (Stating now that I wear suits instead of stilettos)
>>22907469
Do you think we're judgmental? Or little boys that can't man up and view it for what it is?
>>22905543
actually...a lot of strippers agree the only way to not be broke as fuck....is do "favors" that often have to do of a penetrative nature
>>22905758
I want to do this because I have never indulged in a stripclub and this reason sounds best because
>>22906643
I would LOVE to date a sex worker. it's a pretty huge fantasy of mine. I'm not a kekold(er) but sharing and having an open relationship would be a great excuse to have a very open relationship and get to sleep with many women in committed scheduled sexual gymnastics
>>22906749
I have enjoyed the company of professional pros', tho, for about the last year. 100 bucks on average gets you blown and vaginal penetration to completion. Some girls will demand more for more in tease or be uninvolved, but I've had a few very intimate encounters that were legit GFE with very attractive women for about 6.00 to 9.00 bucks a minute which rocks the fuck out of cammodel sites
I really want to have some regular girls and figure out how/when/if sex can stop being a commodity or how to get freebies... it's an odd way to see sex for sure.
Having plenty of fun in the meantime
Any adults out there?
>>22906794
Sorry, but you're a fucking tool.
What the guy means and what idiots like you don't realize is that 90% of it is just show. Maybe you've seen Sasha Grey's interviews on how we all perceive pornstars wrong, how she enjoys it so much, it makes her feel empowered, it is her own decision and so on?
Well nope, she just got literally pimped and forced by her boyfriend. But if they admit the truth, the industry is done for. So instead they go with the sex-positive narrative. The same way James Deen is a rapist in private but a "feminist" in public.
Yes, they are still people and you can discuss photography with them.
But 99% of the people who make their money with sex or drugs are broken lives. They're usually good at rationalizing the positives and making their income sound good by only focusing on a 10-year period. But what follows is poverty, trouble keeping a partner, and mental instability breaking free.
And my view has nothing to do with sexual morals. Just don't glorify what is almost always a shit job done by shitty people.
>>22909178
>cities numbers
>no sources
It's like, your opinion, mate.
>sex or drugs
Putting illegal and legal work into same category? Or just being American?
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20722786
>http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4370287.ece
Seems like a better job than most.
>by only focusing on a 10-year period.
You're not supposed to do a job in the low service industry for ten years, even porn acresses don't earn enough to justify it. It's a great part time employment while you're working on your degree/want money to buy shit, not a career. Just like burger flipping or being a waitress.
Also consider that most problems from sex work are unrelated to the work itself.
>>22909262
Yes, well if you are an autistic randroid then you can actually do a lot of stuff a normal person can't. Including, probably, fucking people for money without going crazy and without loosing control to other people.
But most of these girls aren't. Sasha Grey is one staggering counterexample, even with the gonzo pimp boyfriend story accounted for. I think that's because she's probably a total vicious asshole behind her mask.
The economics of porn mystify me but if you are a rational actor you should probably come as a young girl and say "please do the most degrading shit to me, the stuff that pays the most". Then do that while building your social assets, then quit doing porn and start doing something else.
But what kind of person would reason that way, especially as a young girl?
>>22909504
>And my view has nothing to do with sexual morals.
>if you are an autistic randroid then you can actually do a lot of stuff a normal person can't.
Heh. Way to push your values on others.
>But most of these girls aren't.
Most performers (okay, the studies are about actual whores, so it's probably even better for porn actors) are happy with their job, more happy than the average office drone, who are more likely to end up burned out or depressed. It's okay to have an opition but you should try to give facts a try too, you know, they are nice.
>But what kind of person would reason that way, especially as a young girl?
Let's see, you have the choice to pick your hours and get more than the average wagekek in a month for a day or you can do a shitty job and hope that your boss won't give you more overtime while youre wasting your live with some minimum wage crap and hope that some shitty customer will leave a nice tip. Mhmmm, hard choice.
How is working with entitled people and pretending to be nice to them any more degrading than sucking a dick or two? You're wasting your time and giving up your freedom in both cases, might as well get rewarded for it. Hell, unlike the average student working a shitty job, at least a prostitute can pick who fucks her.
>>22909584
*any less ...
Why is there still no edit option in this shithole.
>>22909262
I would like to hear what this sentence means to you:
When compared with the median job satisfaction scores of Australian women working in sex workers' "most likely alternative jobs," 19% of sex workers reported a higher median satisfaction score in relation to the work itself.
What do you think the other 81% are reporting? And this is not compared to being a super model, it's compared to being a waitress in a shitty motel.
And this is a survey which asked volunteers (think the ones being forced/pimped/unhappy would volunteer in high numbers), which only 75% completed (think it was all the super happy ones who got triggered?) and whose median time in the business was just 3 years (try doing that job when you're 40, and don't tell me those who work in a licensed brothel are just their while they're getting their law degree).
>>22910575
>What do you think the other 81% are reporting?
Average satisfication I'd assume.
>higher median satisfaction
>median
It's all there, man.
>And this is not compared to being a super model, it's compared to being a waitress in a shitty motel.
As I said before, such low service jobs suck, all of them do. Some just need less time and pay much better. If I remember right, about 70% people dislike their job, any job.
>And this is a survey which asked volunteers (think the ones being forced/pimped/unhappy would volunteer in high numbers)
The forced ones are irrelevant when talking about "job satisfaction", and slavery is an issues in other branches too, also there is no reason to assume that unhappy workers wouldn't be just as willing to participate, if not more so.
>which only 75% completed (think it was all the super happy ones who got triggered?)
It's pointless to assume the reasons for this, we don't have any basis. For all we know, they got stabbed by their pimps or forgot the shit because they were so happy.
>try doing that job when you're 40
Well, I don't remember any studies about that only some interviews where the oldies were just as happy. Come on, if they are still in the game at that age, they like it. Also it's probably a great way to get some selfworth and feel valuable as an more mature woman, who usually don't get as much attention as younger girls. (The whole wine and milk thing)
> those who work in a licensed brothel are just their while they're getting their law degree
Their end goal doesn't really matter. Who wouldn't want an easy job with guy pay and some power to choose over your tasks? If you're a waitress, you can't avoid a creepy, smelly old guy unless he gets physical and have to stand his disrespectful shit. As a prostitute you tell him to try another girl.
>>22910717
So if 19% report a higher satisfaction than their counterparts, the other 81% report an equal one - 0% a lower one?
>>22910783
> the other 81% report an equal one - 0% a lower one
The 81% aren't monolithic of course but realistically the amount of lower satisfaction should be either in single digits or very low double digits.
>>22910873
So let's say the score is made up of different questions and ranges from 0 to 100, with the median being 50. 19% report higher than 50. And you think the other 81% all assume 50, with your concession being that MAYBE a single digit % reported lower than 50.
And your basis for this is of course not that you're trying to justify a job that even your own studies say is rampantly ridden with personality disorders and objective shit, no, it's..?
(I assume your ID just changed)
>>22910896
>(I assume your ID just changed)
Mmmm.
>And you think the other 81% all assume 50, with your concession being that MAYBE a single digit % reported lower than 50.
It's less about my assumption and more about simple math. If 19% scored about average, there are only so many people, who can score below average for the result to stay "19% like the shit above average"
I am too damn tired and drunk to go in deeper but I feel like your mistake is burried somewhere:
>the score is made up of different questions and ranges from 0 to 100, with the median being 50
And perhaps not considering other jobs for the score. Or trying to be cheeky. Maybe all three.
> rampantly ridden with personality disorders
Just like CEOs? Or cooks/nurses having a lot druggies?
I think strippers and sex workers are great..wish I had one right now.
>>22910975
Mate if you're tired and drunk, I'd at least consider that maybe you're the one making the mistake with the math.
I mean, you spouted a lot of defensive-sounding stuff that is too far-fetched for even an actual hooker (as many druggies among nurses as among sexworkers?) - just let it be. I will, at least, have a good night.
>>22910994
Doesn't sound like the worst idea. Take care.
ITT: whores trying ta justify their whorish ways cause they're dead inside. Suck my sick penis breath
wh waste money on strippers? go to backpage escort section and buy an hour of an escort's time with 100-250 dollars. better than any amount of money spent on strippers
I feel negatively about strip clubs and brothels (I live in Nevada, and this is an everyday part of life), but I absolutely don't hold anything against strippers or prostitutes themselves. I approve of the legality of their professions in my state. Honestly, I think the men who go to strip clubs and brothels are many times worse than the people who work at them.
I don't know any strippers and have never been to a strip club, but I do know a prostitute and she seems like a pretty cool person to me: intelligent, educated, very sexual.
>>22911535
what a coincidence, I think I fucked this girl!
>>22911576
I think there are probably quite a few of then around. My impression of this girl is just that she has a very high sex drive, is open minded and understood that she could make some money from it. Lots of girls have probably gone through the same thought process.
>>22911590
tru. their minds are not as open as their legs however :^}
>>22907600
No, I don't. I just see both sides of the women in my place of employment and I can see where you guys are coming from. But not all are created equal.
>>22905516
I don't really respect them at all. They're subhuman.
