Give GamerGate a permanent stickied general thread that constantly updates on /v/. They can post there. That can be their containment area. Problem solved.
REMOVE all the other vidya boards, all of them. We only need /v/. Fuck the generals, fuck the old game circlejerk board, fuck pokemon. Have all the concentration and manpower on one board.
Then, have the rest of /v/ heavily moderated and remove all the crap that has been ruining the board.
Ban the fucking consolewars
Ban the shitposting
Ban the /pol/ memes
Ban e-celeb threads
Ban anything not vidya
Give ids to everyone
Give flags to everyone
Disable phone posters
Just totally nuke fucking /v/ of all fun, and watch the dumb-asses leave in droves. That would solve ALL THE PROBLEMS.
There is no real point to /v/ at this moment anyway. May as well have infinitychan take over all of /v/ for their good deeds. We sure as hell aren't using it for anything worth while...
>remove all the other bidya boards
I'm gonna stop ya right there. /v/ is fast enough as it is. Removing the sub-boards would cause /v/ to crash. Not physically, but in terms of discussion.
>>556640
Okay, so leave /vg/ as the containment shit board? Or remove /vg/ so we have actual content in /v/ and instead remove the pokefur board and /vr/?
How to fix /v/:
>Remove the superfluous /v/'s. No more /vp/, /vg/ or /vr/.
>Delete generals
>Decrease thread limits, something like 50 replies
We're like already 80% of the way to fixed.
>>556634
>Give GamerGate a permanent stickied general thread
> watch the dumb-asses leave in droves.
Seems counterintuitive
>>556654
Then WHY can't we have this??
WHY?
Why are we still talking about how WE can fix it? Shouldn't the janitors/mods/owners of a site be the ones to worry about this shit?
Is Hiro so dense that he can't see this would be beneficial? I just want a place to talk about games. /v/ is seriously home to some of the stupidest people on Earth.
>>556655
Do you remember what Prohibition did?
It would be one single stickied thread on an entire board. If they posted anywhere else, they would get insta-banned on site. Sounds fair enough to me.
I don't see why we aren't able to talk about corruption in media and journalism in the modern scene. Fuck the whole anti-feminism shit. Censorship of this type will just cause more issues.
>>556658
Banning GG has kept more idiots off than a sticky but feel free to link me to the Wikipedia article for the Streisand Effect if you think you still have any cogent points left.
>>556634
No, 8gag, you're not allowed to organize the harassment of female game developers here; go do that on your own site. /v/ doesn't want you either based on the recent sticky.
>Hiro makes a thread on /v/ to find out if GamerGate should be allowed
>Fails to label what the thread is about, no mention of GamerGate
>Fills up with shitposting, porn and solutions on how to fix /v/, yet no comments on GamerGate.
>Thread gets closed.
Jesus, can one man be any less competent than Hiroyuki? Maybe we just need a new owner.
What fucking now?
>>556662
There were comments on it and a poll, they said they didn't want it.
>>556661
The sticky didn't have anything to do with GG, all thanks to fake moot.
Even the polls were misleading by not mentioning anything regarding GamerGate.
>>556666
check em.
>>556667
Can you really say /v/ is at all great when you can't even have gets/dubs, etc?
>>556666
You would think that if /v/ cared they would have mentioned it without being deliberately prompted.
>>556666
>Gaming journalists and content creators are video game related and should be allowed.
Looks pretty clear to me.
>>556673
with results:
>1. True.
>73 votes (35%)
>2. False
>134 votes (65%)
>>556672
It wouldn't have made any sense to mention GamerGate because it's over.
>>556676
Did you guys fix gaming journalism yet?
>>556675
I would say that is a decent enough amount of votes to warrant at least a single stickied containment thread for GamerGate on /v/
>>556677
>gaming
>>>>>>journalism
>>556677
Yeah didn't you hear, they fixed video games forever.
>>556678
>no means yes
And I thought rape culture was just a meme.
>>556677
We made it such that it will never procreate again.
Was this post really ban-worthy? hiro had just removed his stickied thread discussing exactly this. Why are meta discussions allowed sometimes, but not others?
Mods, you coulda just deleted my thread and given me a warning instead of a full short ban too :(
>>556685
Don't expect anything of value to be taken from the sticky.
He's a hack anyway. Couldn't title the thread right and fucked up the entire board.
>>556668
Nah, I was acknowledging the quads. Sorry for the confusion.
>>556682
>35% doesn't matter and is a soft wind in the sky
Like I said earlier, I do not see how one (1) thread couldn't be dedicated solely for GG. Ban anything that spills out of it, but leave it be.
Besides, this thread was made in the middle of the night for Americans. I am sure the number would be a lot more and possibly higher for both figures, give or take, but especially for the for journalism side.
>>556688
I know, thank you kind sir.
Still, just another example as to how shit /v/ is.
>>556690
>Like I said earlier, I do not see how one (1) thread couldn't be dedicated solely for GG. Ban anything that spills out of it, but leave it be.
Because that would promote the harassment of women in gaming.
>>>/v/340447737
>>>/v/340448165
>Threads like these are fine on /v/
>Meanwhile, threads about gaming journalism isn't
What a great board, guys!
So, you're from 8gag but don't feel it's a safe space for you anymore after Jim fed cuckwheels to the pigs? Here are some alternative sites on which you can make your own boards for organizing r̶a̶i̶d̶s̶ ethics in video games journalism:
https://8ch.pl/
https://16chan.nl/
https://endchan.xyz/
https://www.reddit.com/
>>556694
>Because that would promote the harassment of women in gaming.
>But bashing niggers and jews is okay
What kind of fucked up shit are you smoking?
>>556703
>Jim fed cuckwheels to the pigs
>>556703
I'm not even from the infinitychan. I fucking hate the layout and the site is a complete joke.
I like it here, but I hate the lack of direction, dedication and overall moderation, ESPECIALLY on /v/. Some boards are fine, but /v/ is total garbage. Is it bad to want it better?
>>556706
Sometimes i think about becoming a janitor for /v/ and flag everything that upsets people the most, but i dont want /v/ to feel like a job.
>>556664
That's because /v/ is still occupied by SJWs. Of course they're going to proxy the hell out of polls.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant, so they want to keep their corruption quiet.
>>556704
Pretty sure that's against the rules too.
>>556710
I might someday, they aren't accepting atm so I guess I am in the clear. Can sniff the bullshit out pretty quick.
And I agree with you, but with how shitty /v/ has become it is rarely enjoyable anymore. Here mostly for other boards.
Fuck off with gaber gate, ita all fucking cancer
>>556713
Fuck off, it's as much against the rules as the console war faggotry.
No one ever bans that shit, and the nigger/jew/cuck crap is even less monitored.
/v/ is honestly the worst board on this damn site.
>>556715
I am sure it is less cancerous than what is on /v/ 24/7.
>>556712
Admit the Holocaust happened.
>>556634
Gamergate itself is not video games related and thus does not belong on /v/ especially as a fucking sticky.
Discussion pertaining to hilarious and shitty video game journalism such as the guy from Polygon who couldn't play Doom worth shit is video game related.
E-celeb discussion that revolves around video games is video game related, anything else you have fair complaint about.
>>556717
>No one ever bans that shit, and the nigger/jew/cuck crap is even less monitored.
That's strange, because people have complained about being banned for it.
It's /v/, there aren't enough hotpockets to delete every rulebreaking post, if that were even a good idea.
Allow GamerGate discussion on /pol/.
Ban GamerGate discussion everywhere else.
Keep /pol/ on /pol/. GamerGate was started on /pol/ and they drew in /v/ to talk about it.
There is literally no possible topic that should ever be banned from /pol/. Let's talk about that. Why the FUCK is GG Banned on /pol/?
>Give them a home, that will remove the cancer
'no'
>>>/v/340448626
>>>/v/340450426
>>>/v/340448156
>Shit like this is still up
>Meanwhile no GG allowed
Great board, guys...
>>556725
>GamerGate was started on /pol/ and they drew in /v/ to talk about it.
Except that's totally wrong you idiot.
It was /v/, /pol/ joined the band-wagon later on for shit and giggles.
You now have 3 threads, 8gagger.
Return to your hole.
>>556724
Maybe the issue is /v/ itself and not the moderators?
Too many dumbnuts to handle.
>>556737
If someone posted a blatant GG thread it would be up as well, get to work shitposter
>>556743
The real issue is how to recruit 50 janitors without 10 of them being Nazis.
I wonder how many janitors /v/ has. I do report threads, but they usually take a while to get removed. More janitors would seem to be a decent idea, but there are probably too many as it is, and the more you add, the harder it is to manage them. Too much bureaucracy. I think any action on the mod/janny side is just filling holes in a ship. After a while, you gotta ask yourself if it's not better to just find a new ship.
Just piggybacking on your thread.
>>556742
I am not even part of the movement, I just believe that if we follow what is posted in OP then /v/ would be a million times better.
Besides, why can't you leave instead? I doubt you are anyone of great worth and probably are just another classy shitposter from /v/ who enjoys making threads about meme and /pol/ memes.
I'm sure Funnyjunk would love your commentary.
>>556746
No, the real issue is that you complain about tertiary bullshit getting removed from your board. Why? Just fucking discuss video games or don't go to /v/ at all you fucking moron.
>>556746
You are an idiot, just listen to >>556750 the board is meant for games not unfunny jokes, console wars and /pol/ garbage.
It's always better to have more mods, but what is the point if the entire community is shit? May as well have fucking Nazis, gas the entire board.
>>556748
That's fine, any criticism is welcome as long as it's reasonable and sane.
Like I have mentioned many times, there needs to be drastic changes to wipe out a lot of the trash that resides in /v/.
If we were to follow what is posted in OP, even if its the list part, then I can assure you that the entire board would be a much happier place to be in.
Mods/janitors can only do so much. Doesn't help we have an incompetent owner, too.
>>556745
Not if it was fucking contained in one stickied thread like I have mentioned a billion times you illiterate moron.
>>556754
that wasn't the point, I was saying those threads you mentioned are still up because of incompetence rather than mods condoning it
>>556749
Your post is all over the place so I don't really know how to respond. Good job.
I view GG as shitposting slacktivism that has no place on these boards. Giving it a prominent, permanent space is tantamount to approval and look what that did for every other general.
When has the creation of a general solved anything? Do we have fewer generals today than last year? Do we have fewer generals than even fucking last week?
Has the quality of anything improved because of generals? Is /int/ better today than it was last year? What about /a/?
Surely /jp/ has been aided greatly by its recent influx of generals dumped onto it from a mod moving /a/ threads there. You can't find a stronger community than on /sp/'s segregated-by-team-and-sport rooms. Why would you want to talk to someone that doesn't share your fandom, right?
This GG thread of yours would not be a part of /v/, but a chat room for idiots to find the outrage du jour so they can post more off-topic screenshots into the rest of /v/.
You have your place to discuss GG and every other nonsensical crusade. Go to it.
>>556756
I honestly don't even care about GG, I just think it would benefit to have a containment area so there wouldn't be any leaks or derailment of other threads. Like prohibition...kind of.
My main concern is to have /v/ be about actual video games. The entire board is a mess and nothing is being done. People want change, but the people in power aren't doing jack shit.
It's frustrating.
>>556761
Do you think a permanent rolling sticky for My Little Pony on the front page would increase or decrease the number of pony fans in /v/? It is not very difficult to figure this shit out.
>>556763
I had no idea that MLP was video game related and culturally entwined with video game media and culture...is there anywhere online to read some in-depth articles about this? I am very interested in learning more and I want to enrich myself.
>>556761
I understood your motive, sorry.
My point was that containment areas don't work because more and more of them are created as time goes on and it becomes a part of the culture that discussion must be focused into them. This sounds like a positive thing for something as corrosive to video game discussion as politics, but it's a double-edged sword; you're also telling the internet that /v/ is open for GG discussion and kids will take it as approval from mods that it belongs on the rest of the board.
You can make a Jojo thread on /a/ even though it has a general and that's okay if you're starting a discussion. Likewise you can make a new thread to talk about Transformers on /toy/ even though there's a general for it. I don't know how successful either of these threads would be but it's acceptable behavior.
But this would be a sticky with a banned subject occupying a board that doesn't need or want it. Do you think the pros outweigh the cons? I don't.
>>556772
They're both popular among losers on the internet.
That said, it's a simple question: do permanent "containment stickies" attract or repel the target demographic to the board?
>>556774
>I understood your motive, sorry.
Damn it. MISunderstood.
>>556774
In the end, I am just one person giving some free solutions and critique for anyone to evaluate or use.
Maybe it isn't the best choice to include the GG crap, but I was trying to think of what could be beneficial in a short time period. My main push would be the list that is in OP such as removing shitposting, console wars, etc.
In the end, what I say won't even matter. That is just how it goes and I have to accept it.
>>556775
I don't have any figures on me, but I am sure it depends on the quality of the community, the content and overall outlook of the site.
Maybe it would work, maybe it wouldn't. Does it really matter at this point in time? /v/ is horrendous anyway, with constant /pol/ posting and off-topic threads. If it turned out negatively I would highly doubt there would be any real difference as to what we see today. Might have a slight increase but there will always be other dumbasses making stupid meme posting and console war threads.
>>>/v/340456843
I just love great content, don't you?
All races equal. Peace and harmony.
>>556701
Except Hiro said yesterday we should be allowed to talk about what we want. Mods doing this once again goes behind Hiro's back
>>556788
He meant what /v/ wanted as a collective, not what any given individual of /v/ wants. Otherwise there would simply be no rules and you could post whatever the fuck you wanted.
>>556719
Lmao
>>556788
>Actually believe this bullshit
What do you think the mods are for? They are there to enforce the site. Hiro is most likely saying this shit to get on people's good side.
Either that, or he is a complete moron who can't even manage a few mods, let alone AN ENTIRE SITE like 4chan. Fucking hell...
I doubt he really wants GG stuff on here anyway, since they helped expose a lot of the skeletons in his closet to the western world. I doubt most people on this site even know what he did to 2channel users.
>IDs.
Fuck off.
>>556741
No you're the one that's totally wrong. The quinnspiracy was a /pol/ thing. GamerGate was started on /v/ by all of the same peolpe as the Quinnspiracy 5 Guys Burgers And Fries shit. It was NOT /v/ grown. You're a fucking retard.
You already have your own giant sticky. It's called r/Kotakuinaction
>>556815
Why don't YOU fuck off? You sure as hell aren't contributing anything of worth with your shitty comment and I am sure whatever you would post on /v/ would mirror your contribution here.
Want to give me a better answer? Give me your best solution to this problem at hand.
A purge of /v/ is necessary for all the shitters to leave. IDs are just one solution suggested in a larger picture.
>>556821
Isn't it possible that the same people posted it on two different boards?
>>556827
It is absolutely possible because that's literally what happened. Nevertheless, the original discussion on how to fuck feminism in the ass via Zoe Quinn was a discussion that begun on /pol/. "GAMERGATE" was started by those same people, on /v/, afterthefact, using a Hashtag Joke that a journalist used to describe this controversy over Zoe Quinn, Leah Alexander, and other literally who's.
>>556824
There are other sites you can go to, ya know? You don't need to ruin this one with your generic bullshit. There is Le Reddit.
>>556794
He doesn't care. He wants the site to be for us. That's why he bought he it. He knew he wasn't gonna make a profit off of it he even admitted to it.
And no, the mods are not here to enforce the site. They are here to delete anything they don't like and ban anyone they don't like. They are beyond corrupt
>>556834
Same fucking goes to you, ala 8ch. They don't have registration or IDs.
Maybe both of you want the same thing. "4chan just with this one thing I want different".
>>556832
So it was just /vpol/tards
Thanks for confirming what I already said, dumbass.
>>556634
>REMOVE all the other vidya boards
No, they have their uses.
>Ban e-celeb threads
And if need be, create a /cel/ board. It could help clean up /v/, /vr/, /tv/, and /hr/.
>Give flags to everyone
No need for that IMO.
Yes to the other points.
And Thread IDs for /vg/, please. There's zero reason not to have them on that board.
>>556834
>generic bullshit
>wanting actual content
You fucking goof, you are no better than an idiot child with downs. Sorry that not everyone enjoys memespouting bullcrap every hour like you do.
You are /v/ personified.
>>556719
Holocaust happened, not everyone is an tin foil infowar fag, so cry more SJW.
>>556842
Just took what everyone said in the big thread with Hiro and made a super post. That is all.
Purge /v/ to the max.
>>556845
Like I said, get off this site. It's obvious you've only been here a year. When you can't handle heat, get out of the kitchen. Hopefully you had a father or male figure in your life to tell you that.
Fag.
>>556855
Everybody who disagrees with me is different from me too! It's okay.
>>556634
You have a whole board dedicated to your activist cancer on >>>/8gag/ yet you refuse to use it and bring it here.
>>556712
>m-muh SJWs
i like how everyone you disagree with always fits in ONE group
i support gamergate and i dont fucking want it on /v/
>>556861
Hiro says what is allowed and isn't, not you
>>556863
don't move the goalpost, nigger
>>556855
Okay big boy. I will go cry home to mommey.
Call me a faggy all you want, still doesn't solve the butthurt you are feeling.
We are talking about ways to fix /v/ here, not about your internal issues.
>>556858
I am not even from that site you idiot, learn to read the thread before making an intelligent comment.
>>556866
>Fix /v/
I have yet to hear something logical.
>>556872
Then post something!
Where do you think you are? We are all desperate to know what would be the best for /v/.
As long as it can get better, anything is fair game.
>>556861
>I-I-I-I support GG, honest!
Bullshit you do, otherwise you'd be finding a way to get it a sanctioned thread on 4chan.
>>556877
>proving me right
>Fix /v/
>>556634
HAAHAHAH that first request makes me laff
>le gamergate is important may may
it's like having a gay parent that screams he needs to have pink glasses
holy shit kill yourself
>>556634
>wanting to bring back the cancer that was gobler gate
>>556634
Get rid of eceleb threads and keep goobergobblers away
You can't fix /v/ because you can't fix the video game industry.
>>556634
Is GG still a thing? (that's a genuine question). I think unbanning would be fine if there was a sticky, but I haven't heard anything about it for the best part of a year now.
>REMOVE all the other vidya boards
They're too much of their own thing at this point. If /vg/ was deleted, people would just keep making the generals on /v/. /vg/ is used nearly as much as /v/ is now. /vp/ went to total shit sometime in the past year or two, but before /vp/ Pokémon discussion on /v/ was damn near impossible. /vr/ is comfy sometimes.
>Ban the fucking consolewars
As much as I hate it, it's on-topic. Consolewars is an inevitable part of gaming discussion: it's never going to go away. Maybe a general would help, but then again all the newfags who start the threads wouldn't find it?
>Ban the shitposting
It's already against the rules, we just need more active moderation
>Ban the /pol/ memes
Ban it if it's off-topic or shitposting. If someone uses "cuck" in the middle of an otherwise good post, I don't care
>Ban e-celeb threads
Off-topic shit should be removed, and this definitely is off-topic. Better moderation on /v/ is what's needed.
>Ban anything not vidya
See above
>Give ids to everyone
Why?
>Give flags to everyone
No fucking way. The whole board would dissolve into nothing but shitposting about the flags.
>Disable phone posters
Yes
>We sure as hell aren't using it for anything worth while
>implying /v/ has ever been used for something worthwhile
>>556887
This is a shitty meme and I hope you don't use it again.
>>556888
1 (one) overwatch general thread on /v/ instead of 5 (five) different overwatch threads at once
This thread is why we\re called cuckchan
Someone give me any proof at all that Thread IDs cut back on shitposting? If you were around for any apreciable amount of time, you would know that people used to shitpost with tripcodes. Lanced Jack, Nigba, Manly Tears, Toxic Jester etc. IDs solve absolutely nothing and will only harm legitimate discussion as dedicated shitposters will always shitpost regardless.
I stress, the major reason why 4chan became successful in the first place, was that each post was judged solely on it's merits.
If you really want to cut back on shitposting, maybe start by removing (You) as faggots treat it like an ego boost.
>>556634
>Give ids to everyone
this is like saying we should ban hamburgers in clapland
>>556893
>c-cripplechan's laughing at us?
who cares? they have 6 users
>>556888
No discussion of "e-celebs" on /v/ would be like not allowing discussion of specific teams or players on /sp/
>>556634
>Give GamerGate a permanent stickied general thread that constantly updates
>Ban anything not vidya
>>556888
Thanks for making good points and being civil about it. Gives me hope that /v/ might become bearable in the future.
The points in OP was an amalgamation of requests from Hiro's sticky from /v/. It may seem severe including all, but it would totally purge the shitheads from /v/ easily.
As long as some of the stuff is decided on, then that is groovy to me.
And yes I think GG is still around. I don't even care about it, but I thought it would be best to have a contained thread for them to do there shit so they can't spew it anywhere else but meanwhile claim to be content. Win-win.
>>556892
It's a fad. I'd prefer a flurry of threads for a couple weeks before it dies down than spending the next two years having to see OVERWATCH GENERAL - /owg/ #1789 DANK MEMES EDITION
HERE IS HOW TO ACTUALLY FIX FUCKING /V/
1)Ban /pol/ Shitposting. Better yet, do something like GR:15 and ban all politics to /pol/.
2)Ban consolewars
3)Giving ID's and Flags to everyone is ONLY good if the /pol/ ban is active. Otherwise everyone will post poo in loo xD memes.
4)E-Celeb can go.
5)Don't disable phoneposters because it will just lead to more shitposting about it being disabled.
Also, Keep goobergate banned.
Congrats, you fixed /v/, the most cancerous board on the fucking website.
>>556894
Do fences stop people from passing a certain area?
>>556880
>damage control
>>556910
the only damage you're controlling is yours
>>556900
That works tho.
If you confine the GG shit to one thread and ban anything that permeates out of it, then you are gold.
It's literally a concentration camp for those fools.
>>556907
Sounds good except
>5)Don't disable phoneposters because it will just lead to more shitposting about it being disabled.
How will they shitpost about not being able to shitpost if they can't post in the firstplace?
>>556913
A general would be fine but not as sticky
>>556634
Ban the Barneyfag too.
>>556899
It's sort of different, though. I'm don't visit /sp/ particularly often, but when I do see threads about particular players, it's usually a discussion about their skill level i.e. are they good or shit? When individuals are brought up on /v/, it's never about their skill as a gamer or gamedev .I think it's fine to talk about a developer in a thread about one of their games, or mention a video about some game or whatever, but what I hate is a thread created specifically to shitpost about some non-vidya related drama about some literal who twitch streamer or whatever.
Basically, I'm not saying never talk about people, I'm saying to not talk about people if it's totally off-topic. The way /a/ handles this is actually decent i.e. people within the industry are discussed but only really within the context of their work.
>>556634
The only thing you need is to ban frogposting and you missed it
Fuck you
>>556912
>resorting to the 'I am rubber you are glue argument'
Ha
>>556889
>Implying this is a meme
Why EA and Activision?
Why DLC?
Why Season Pass?
Why so many glitches?
Why so cynical in this industry?
Why AAA video games are so bad?
Why the marketing department taking the place of the developers?
Why you can't see how bad this industry is right now and how that affects /v/?
>>556919
>implying there is anything wrong with frogposting
smug anime girls on the other hand..
>>556916
Keeps it out in the open so we can watch them
>>556908
Only if it's high enough and fencing off areas which pride itself on freedom is moronic.
Thread IDs in this instance is a half metre high fence made of chicken wire.
>>556921
Autism the Post
>>556925
I am just saying, most fences can be easily climbed over, and a lot of people do climb over them, however it also stops a good amount of people from not entering.
It is simply nature. Same way IDs would only help for the majority, but it would still be helpful overall.
To all of you in this thread who are against GG on 4chan, why is that? Do you disagree with GG or do you think it's not vidya related enough to be on /v/?
>>556926
Then explain why /v/ is so shitty if you are that smart!
>>556930
> however it also stops a good amount of people from not entering.
Stifling discussion does not "help the majority" you colossal moron.
A lot of what people consider shitposting, is an opinion that they don't agree with.
Yeah, the chicken wire fence may deter some shitposters, but it will also deter actual legitimate posters as well.
>>556915
With there computer.
>>556934
Well you got me there!
Jokes aside it just seemed like a bunch of text that was unnecessary. Some autistis are actually quite smart, so it could be a complement.
>>556938
Then they aren't phone posters anymore and just regular posters.
And if they shitpost they will get banned. New /v/ sounds amazing, doesn't it?
Just add IDs. Fixes 90% of the problems.
You fuckers that want to ban every goddamn thing are cancer.
Create a board specifically for Video Game culture for dicussions of things like E celebs, Youtube channels, events (E3) basically anything indirectly about actual games.
Discourage daily repeating threads. Seriously, please permaban the cocksuckers who post E3 hype, Morrowind, New Vegas and PC Masterrace threads every 3 hours. That shits wearing my patience.
>>556937
>IDs will also deter actual legitimate posters
Fucking how? Are people this paranoid?
>>556944
>Create a board specifically for Video Game culture for dicussions of things like E celebs, Youtube channels, events (E3) basically anything indirectly about actual games.
You basically described /v/
>>556945
I'm too invested to leave but if I had to have an identifier I'd just turn on a tripcode permanently.
Once again, another thread on /v/ that is talking about these important topics gets pushed to archive.
The mods on /v/ are a joke. Can they not see we are trying to make it a better environment for not only us but them as well?
Sure, they can give the excuse that "well we follow Hiro's word!"
...but then what about shit like Hiro posted in pic related that says mods should have no say and that the users of /v/ themselves should have the power to choose what they talk about?
Talk about a twisted mess...
>>556948
I'm of the opinion that creating more boards does nothing (see /mlp/ and /co/). Either purge it with extreme prejudice or explicitly allow it.
The only reason /v/ is in this mess is because of really inconsistent bans and autosage; how are people supposed to know the rules if no one knows when they're broken?
>>556945
Let's say someone posts a controversial opinion, any subsequent post in that thread is now tied to said controversial opinion. The content of the posts are now judged on the posters history in the thread rather than it's content, going against the whole purpose of anonymity.
Now, say someone burns their Thread ID early on in a thread by posting a controversial opinion. What options do they have, Stop participating thin the thread, ditch their ID so they can participate again or double down and start shitting up the thread even more.
Ban "what went wrong" threads
Ban "now that the dust has settled" threads
Ban "what did they mean by this?" threads
Ban "WE WUZ KINGZ" threads
Ban drawfag threads
Ban Toddposting
Ban THICC
Just purge all the crap from /v/ someone...please...
>>556741
/v/ spammed Five Guy Burgers threads, and discussed how shitty her game was. That activism shit started elsewhere and made its way to /v/
Just moderate, it's not that fucking hard. The shitposting is through the roof, as are the fifteen plus threads for a single monthly release despite the existence of /vg/. There are incessant threads being made that consist of nothing more than JUST, >defend this, wojak posting, blatant false flagging, and flavor of the month memes. Not to mention porn threads hilariously reaching 400+ replies before being deleted, if at all. Ever since the tortanic, there's been a culture developed around the idea of game or studio failing and it's allowed the worst possible shitposters to fester like a cancer because no one's doing a goddamn thing about it.
The rules don't need updating so much as moderation activity does. It's not a console war when people are having a legitimate discussing regarding the specs and line-up of certain consoles, but you can't even do that without being called a shill. It makes sense that people would want to discuss gaming related youtube channels, but the majority of e-celeb threads lack any substance whatsoever. Instead of making another board in addition to excess we already have, send it to the fucking /trash/. The board exists for a fucking reason. 4chan does not need to cater to every goddamn ideology or topic on the planet. A hundred people spouting alternative names for angry joe does not justify the creation of an entire board when the site can barely care for the ones that have already been established for years. Feel free to disable phone posters, and feel free to add IDs, it's not going to stop several people from jerking each other off while they pretend to argue with one another. And it should go without saying the flags are terrible idea that would only give burgerfat/eurofag posters more things to shitpost about.
Just fucking moderate, at least to start.
>>556961
Jesus, it's not like you are handing out your passport and house keys.
If you are that concerned about it then you might have some serious troubles.
If we needed mandatory photos of ourselves, fingerprints and place of residence then of course I would be concerned, but and ID...come on man.
/vg/ posters are a different breed from /v/ shitters though.
Most /vg/ posters who go to the board for a few specific generals don't want to share a board with fucking underage faggot /v/irgins
>Give flags to everyone
>Ban the /pol/ memes
Won't work btw
>>556662
you got it all wrong.
Hiro understood what GG is about and decided not to care about it, like everyone who's old enough to post here.
>>556968
I agree fully but I have learned too that if the community is garbage then the moderation will be more difficult.
Why bring home a barrel of rotton apples? I feel the board needs a massive purge.
>>556634
Gamergate is still relevant?
>>556634
>containment
The greatest cancer on the site and you want to do it with another of the greatest cancers? Are you stupid? Fuck off 8gag.
Couldn't we just remove /v/ altogether and just have /vg/ instead?
/v/ is home to so much crap that I think we would be possibly okay without it...
>>556893
>she hasn't read whore.txt
These are all brilliant ideas. Also let's delete /pol/ and give IDs to /b/ while we're at it :')
>>557002
>give IDs to /b/ while we're at it :')
didn't they do this for a while
>>556981
Not really, these threads are being made because Hotwheels stepped down as 8gag admin recently.
>>556705
The admin of 8ch, Hotwheels, is now the former admin of 8ch, and now the owner of 2ch Jim Watkins and his son Codemonkey are in full control of the site. So glad I got off that boat 2 weeks beforehand.
>>557017
based hotwheels am i right
>>557033
People can shit on moot for many things, but his system of strictly controlling the amount of boards that are here is one of the main reasons 4chan endures while every single clone dies.
>>557019
>So glad I got off that boat
>you were on it in the first place
Gamergaters are weak minded people who are easily led by a crowd.
just delete /v/ its the only way
>>556634
>how to fix /v/
>Give Gamergate a permanent stickied general thread
Yeah, that'll fix /v/ in the same way that if I take a giant shit on top of my car, the engine will start working.
>>556634
>Give GamerGate a permanent stickied general thread that constantly updates on /v/
Why not just make a general on /vg/?
>>556634
>I want nicknames and subreddits xD
Fuck off.
>>556634
No.
/v/ is already too fast, don't ruin the other boards.
You retards have got to be the stupidest motherfuckers in the world. You faggots have no idea how to turn /v/ good. Fact is, /v/ is a paradise now compared with the shit show it would inevitably become if we implemented your shit suggestions.
First off, anyone who suggests ID's, let alone flags, can immediately fuck off this website. Don't come back. You won't be missed. Seriously, get the fuck out.
Secondly, I went through the trouble of going to /v/ catalog and seeing the threads with 100 replies or more. Not one of them is about e-celebs. NOT. ONE. You can do this experiment yourself at any time and you will never find out more than 1 or, in very exceptional cases, 2 e-celeb threads with 100 replies or more in the catalog. Go fuck yourselves, this is a literal non-issue. Stop getting triggered like babies and hide threads you don't like, or alternatively, don't be huge pussies and just learn to scroll past them.
Third, yes, there's a ton of stupid shitposting all over /v/ on a daily basis, /pol/ shitposting, console war shitposting, "is she right" shitposting, "what's the vidya of [non-vidya thing]" shitposting. Hey, you stupid faggots, you aren't being revolutionary by saying that this shit should be deleted. Guess what: It already fucking is. /v/ gets threads and posts made at the speed of light, mods and janitors aren't fucking omniscient, sorry you'll have to see a shitty bad thread for all of 5 minutes before it gets dealt with. Again, the solution is to hide (and report) or move past it.
We don't need to add any more retarded rules or board changing lines of code, all we need is for the mods to moderate the rules that are already fucking established.
Get over yourself, /qa/, in fact, go fuck yourself, you just want to bitch and whine to feel important and you know it. And containing GG to a single thread was never the solution, let alone making it a fucking sticky. Jesus, you're a fucking retard, OP.
>>556662
Wait, so that's what that awful thread was fucking about from the beginning? It was you stupid faggots trying to get shit GG threads back? You seriously thought that shit would fly?
Literally 90% of the people that were here in 2014 to witness your shit daily threads don't want you back. What the fuck made you think you would actually succeed? Even in the off-chance that you managed to filibuster Hiro for five centuries until he finally gave you permission to put a GG thread, it would take all of two days before they were banned again.
You /qa/ faggots only get away with the shit you do because no one else bothers coming to this shithole, I hope you retards realize that.
>>556685
Meta-threads are fucking shit and a billion times more annoying than this big boogeyman of e-celeb threads you faggots love crying about.
The only thing Hiro did wrong was listen to you faggots and make a sticky to appease you in the first place.
>>556725
100% agreed, /pol/ can discuss GamerGate all they want, I didn't even know that subject was banned over there. Let them waste their time with that shit.
>>556754
So, should we also make a stickied thread for console wars and a stickied thread for politics discussion and a stickied thread for nintendo love/hate? Should we make a stickied thread for every fucking subject that should be bannable so that we "contain" it? How fucking retarded are you on a grade from 1 to 10? Sorry but you can't go lower than 9
>>556778
>but I was trying to think of what could be beneficial in a short time period
Stop trying to think. You're not very good at it.
>>556944
Splitting /v/ further is not gonna help. It never has and never will. And if you think people will stop making threads about E3 and e-celebs on /v/, you're out of your god damn mind. All you're doing is creating double dipping.
>>556778
>but I was trying to think of what could be beneficial in a short time period.
Stop doing that, it is fucking cancerous. The websites history is filled with idiots doing just that and where has that gotten us? Fuck the short-term, think of the long term instead. /vg/ was a short-term solution, generals are a short-term solution. What has they brought us? Nothing but cancer and /vg/ only further caused generals to spread on the site and generals themselves have only caused the site to slowly decay and lose every single cultural aspect it had and suck all the fun and discussion the site had. FUCK THE SHORT TERM, FUCK RETARDS, JUST FUCkING BAN THEM INSTEAD OF CATERING TO THEM LIKE A BUNCH OF LITTLE CHILDREN WHO THINKS OF NOTHING BUT FRIENDSHIP AND ACCEPTANCE.
How to fix /v/:
Use the report button, you morons.
(And the mods could and should be better, because I see some threads stay up for hours and hours and even end up getting archived.
>>557410
Dumb namefag.
>>557122
I could see that, but people might bitch that it isn't "video games" and instead about video game culture, hence it should be on /v/ instead.
Having a general on /vg/ for it might be the best and easiest solution.
>Literally 90% of the people that were here in 2014 to witness your shit daily threads don't want you back.
Times change, if anything there would be more interest in it now since all the stupid shit has blown over. GG is all about corruption in the media now, not dumb feminization bullshit.
>>557404
People do, you clown, it's the mods that are confused and don't understand what /v/ should be or not because of people like you.
/v/ is video game culture, so GG should be allowed.
If you want to talk about video games themselves, go to /vg/ or /vr/ .
>>557560
How about instead you go back to 8gag and then everyone will be happy. /v/ doesn't want GG because it isn't video game related.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10428015/r
>>557192
So I guess it's fine when a trap thread stays up for over 2 hours? Or when an icarly thread sticks around for over an hour and a half where people shitpost about pedophilia and feet?
A lot of the points you made are somewhat correct, but to say that /v/ doesn't need fixing is beyond retarded.
It's true that the mods and janitors do delete threads, but there is too much lenience towards so much bullshit. The board known as "/v/" is a shitfest where video games are barely even mentioned. It should really just be for video game culture instead. No one would complain. The fact that mods and janitors actually delete threads about video games should really give you an idea as to how fucked up the board is.
Just allow GG talk, e-celebs, YouTube threads, Twitch posting and everything else under the umbrella of "video game culture" and if you REALLY want to talk about video games, go to one of the actual other boards where they do.
/v/ isn't really a fit place for actual video game talk, that is why so many other boards were made.
Stupid Berserk poster, not even /a/ likes you.
>>557573
Except it is video game related idiot
>>557583
It's not a videogame discussion.
It's related but that doesn't make it a valid /v/ subject.
It's also a political movement.
Political activism has never ended well on 4chan, because the majority of 4chan's population doesn't want activism on this site.
Look at Chanology or even Anonymous "hacker groups".
They all spawned on 4chan and eventually were thrown out, because we do not support these people.
We are not serious enough for a serious movement.
>>557573
/v/ is a shithole where most of the content isn't even remotely related to video games.
Race posting, bashing woman, /pol/ and /tv/ posting, anime and porn, constant e3 threads, e-celeb threads and all the other shit are all fine for /v/, but GamerGate talk that is about the corruption in the video game media is not?
Stop acting like a pig who enjoys wallowing in their own shit and let people who are actually responsible and who want a better future for the places they frequent do the work here. You go enjoy your pig-pen for now.
Besides, I am not even from 8worldz, I hate that place.
I just want /v/ to become a better place. I don't even care if GG comes back or not, but I hate to see the fallacies people bring up like you do.
Ban all the crap and let only video games be posted, or make /v/ about video game culture.
>>557585
But /pol/ posting and posting about niggers and jews is alright?
Glade to see the extreme right are at it again, you fucking piece of nazi shit.
And don't go telling me that those kind of posts are "all for fun" and "just a prank, bro!".
>We are not serious enough for a serious movement.
Wow, who would have guessed? Of course not, /v/ is mostly filled with unintelligent autistic manchildren who cross-post from /v/ and /tv/. If we had better rules, let alone a better understanding of what /v/ truly is about, then most of the shit heads would leave.
You guys just want your own safe space on here and don't want actual change that can be beneficial.
>>557585
>It's related but that doesn't make it a valid /v/ subject.
What is a valid /v/ subject?
>>557598
>I am /pol/ or support it
Nice implication, you faggot.
Yes, this place would be a lot better if you and /pol/ left.
>>556634
>Give GamerGate a permanent stickied general thread that constantly updates on /v/
you can't be serious right?
>>557603
GG is still video game related, and 100% video game culture related, which /v/ is: Video Game Culture. You can fight me on that, but it is the truth and people don't understand that.
/pol/ posting never-ever has anything to do with video games or video game culture.
Not having GG on /v/ is total censorship and it just goes to show you what 4chan really stands for.
>>557598
>And don't go telling me that those kind of posts are "all for fun" and "just a prank, bro!".
Also, yes, even if /pol/ believes what they say, it is just shitposting. GamerGate is actual activism, and a real movement.
>>557611
That is even more of a reason as to why it should be allowed. It is an actual video game movement that gets banned, meanwhile /pol/ posting is allowed and almost encouraged because of how many shitters make the memes and jokes constantly.
It's a one-sided farce that is not for video games.
>>557470
dumb anon
>>557605
Thanks for your constructive criticism.
What are your ideas of making /v/ great again?
If you wish to look at Hiro's /v/ thread, here it is:
>>>/v/340366735
Might slow your browser down for a little bit before loading completely.
>>556634
The fact that you're talking about a containment thread and then talks about removing containment boards is kinda baffeling
>remove /vp/
Don't you remember japan time? /v/ would be absolutely flooded. That's not a good plan. Same goes for /vg/. Cancer somehow forms there so there's less on /v/
Giving GG a containment thread would be a good idea as long as they fucking stay there. I remember when they made their own general of it on /v/ and it leaked to every other thread. So I was kinda glad when it got banned because it was fucking annoying
>Ban the fucking consolewars
>Ban the shitposting
>Ban the /pol/ memes
>Ban e-celeb threads
>Ban anything not vidya
>Give ids to everyone
Yea, that's agreeable
>Give flags to everyone
I wouldn't mind it, but I can imagine shitposting ensuing like on /int/ because of a certain opinion+flag. I don't think it'd be good for discussions
>>557692
>The fact that you're talking about a containment thread and then talks about removing containment boards is kinda baffling
It was more based on the idea that /v/ would have more people posting about actual games and less about irrelevant topics.
I would like /vg/ to stay, but like I said, there might be more talk of video games on /v/ if it was removed. It is a difficult situation: do to merge /v/ and /vg/ so we get more game discussion, or do we leave the cancer containment board but sacrifice game discussion on /v/? I believe if the mods enforced the right rules, we would be fine.
The GG thread should only be allowed if they contain themselves. Think of a concentration camp or ghetto. If it is stickied and is continuously updated and monitored then I don't see a problem. In the end, /v/ is a board about video game culture and not really a board about video games, so GG really should be allowed right now in some form.
>Give flags to everyone
This might not be my number 1 choice either, but all I did was take popular decisions and suggestions from Hiro's stickied thread on /v/ and make an ultimate solution in OP. I believe it can be left out, too, but that is up to the majority.
>>557716
I think the shit about e3, articles about the industry, game sales, and the like might be better served by /vi/, or video game industry.
The shit is very common in video game websites and magazines, so a straight ban isn't the best option, but maybe separating it from the more gameplay related parts might be better.
>>557765
I would agree with you, but /v/ really isn't about video games anymore.
It's video game culture.
There is a clash of what people want /v/ for. It is usually:
- /v/ is only video games
- /v/ is only video game culture
- /v/ is a shit post board
This causes so many issues and might confuse the mods/janitors on what to do. Obviously the mods are corrupt and whatnot but the ones that are actually doing a good job probably struggle since what /v/ stands for is not set in stone.
Since /v/ is video game culture, stuff like gaming interviews, e3, game sales, Twitch, YouTube gaming, game devs on Twitter, GamerGate and anything else related to gaming culture should be allowed. This is where it gets confusing, because some of it is allowed and some of it isn't. Even then, what is allowed sometimes gets banned. There is too much confusion as to what /v/ is.
I just want structure. Hiro needs to decide what /v/ is and then enforce rules, good moderation and then let the community finally enjoy the board.
>>556675
>internet polls are infallible
V, everyone.
>>557782
/v/ is a space for all three of those things, sorry you hate it. Feel free to fuck off.
>>557692
I miss Japan time.
It wasn't always just Pokemon.
>>557818
Of course not, but it was one of the triggers. Remember when pokémon trainer was revealed for Brawl?
>>557585
>, because we do not support these people
Because everyone got bored. Don try and rewrite history just because 80% of 4chans current pop was post chanology.
>>557822
I wasn't here for brawl actually
>>557826
Right. When Pokémon Trainer was revealed /v/ exploded with pokémon threads. The front page was filled up all the time with pokémon related threads. Of course, it is video games, but you'd want something else than just pokémon on /v/.
I'm glad /vp/ exists. I can go there to enjoy pokémon threads and other vidya on /v/
I do miss /tr/ though
>>557811
I guess you are misunderstanding what i said?
If /v/ is all of those things, then why does certain stuff get deleted or banned?
Be more constructive with your replies. This thread is on how to solve the /v/ issues, not add to them.
>>557823
Exactly, it got serious and everyone was in it for the fun.
It was never a serious effort and it died after a while, just like GG is doing now.
>>557852
But that's not the same as "They were thrown out"
Which really only happened because of the soc threads on b imo. But that was all one giant stain on 4chan in general. The info on scientology's evil shit was fun though.
>>557852
GG will always be prevalent since it is about corruption in the video game industry.
Might be named something else or might not be labeled, but it will still be there. People don't like it when corrupt people or wrong-doings intrude on their interests.
>>557898
>it is about corruption in the video game industry
lol
it stopped being that a long time ago
pity because i was with them when it just had started with the whole zoey thing
>>557930
It still is, I believe even more so since a lot of it has died down in the media.
Is Hiroyuki ever going to address this again?
He seemed gung-ho about fixing issues but is now completely silent. I hope he doesn't push it under the rug and call it a day...
>>558099
He asked /v/, they don't want it, the issue is addressed.
>>558101
uhh what are you talking about?
/v/ was pretty adamant that they wanted changes. Are you solely talking about GamerGate shit, cause I am talking about what was in Hiro's thread.
>>558101
No actually /v/ wanted things changed. There was just so many replies in that thread.
I seriously hope Hiro doesn't just abandon thisn
The vast majority of /v/ doesn't give a shit about these supposed issues and over 40% of people who were polled on it told you fags to fuck off.
Hiro is right by "putting this under the rug". He's realized you few fags that bitch non-stop in this board don't speak for all of us.
>>558192
Come on dude...
Most people in that thread of Hiro's were for removing the shitposting, /pol/ posting and e-celeb threads, but I guess your views speak for everyone now.
Nobody likes that caner, it's ruining /v/. Jokes on you, though, cause Hiro took interest and will make changes whether you like it or not.
>>556634
Fuck off to your containment subreddit >>>/8gag/
>>558103
If you're talking about addressing the suggestions from the /v/ thread, I agree. The 8gag shilling on /qa/ that prompted it (of which OP is an example) was addressed.
>>556659
>Banning GG has kept more idiots off
It has actually invited more idiots who came to /v/ under the delusion that their kind would be welcome.
>>556676
Yeah, you're not allowed to talk about video game related things unless it is just released or just happened.
You people are insufferable and transparent.
there is no need to have a /v/
/vg/ should be /v/, go find the general and talked about the game there
delete /v/
/vg/ is good enough
>>556775
>They're both popular among losers on the internet.
4chan was only successful due to "losers on the internet".
You don't fucking belong here.
Go back.
>>557081
No, the only reason why 4chan remains is because it is full of manchildren afraid to leave their hugboxes.
We have a culture of anons hating other anons merely for using more than one board.
>>557585
Fuck off scum.
Painfully obvious that you came to /v/ after gamergate was censored.
Allowing discussion of gamergate related stuff on /v/ is more or less the least of what anons should be concerned about and those who isolate this and kneejerk basically out themselves as the normalfags who came to 4chan after they found out about m00t sperging over being discovered that he and his chumps were personally involved with others who were involved with the whole gamergate early internet explosions shebang, and thought that 4chan would be a safe space for them.
You are a part of why /v/ has been exceedingly shit for the past two years.
>>558334
What about games that don't have enough traffic to hold a general?
What if the fanbase is too fragmented to get along in a single thread? Do they get two or is one side just screwed over?
What about people that are asking general vidya related questions on /v/ that don't involve a specific game?
What happens when an event like E3 comes up, would there be a /e3g/ or would discussion not be permitted?
What about issues that are console specific like PS4 servers being down or Nintendo Direct? Will there be console generals too? Won't this cause significantly more shitposting than what already takes place on /v/?
Aren't there more than 100 games discussed on /v/ throughout the course of a week? If there's more generals trying to be made than available this will screw over many people and result in constant contentless bumping and circlejerking, which will deteriorate discussion.
>>558351
go suck a dick
>>558342
>Painfully obvious that you came to /v/ after gamergate was censored.
Joke's on you, I don't visit /v/ because it is trash and it has been since long before GG
GG is just another way you faggots found to infest this website with reddit users and other scum
At least /b/ mostly keeps its users contained.
But /v/ always has to spill over to other boards.
You gamergaters kept trying to push your shit movement on us /a/nons despite /a/ not giving a shit about you, as if everyone had to care.
I remember that, back in september 2014.
Every day there was some faggot from /v/ shilling his political views, it's like you people are fucking vegans or something.
We hate you.
>>556634
How to remove cancer from 4chan as a whole
ban phoneposters
ban anyone who watches video and visits sites related to atheism
remove flags and IDs
Pretty much it
Tumblr whales are scared to come here and to be honest it's pretty funny to see them on /cgl/ talk about their periods and how much their love sucking on their used tampons
Meanwhile you're like a roach that slithers around and spreads its diseases and eggs
We need a can of Raid to fix this
>>556634
>Give GamerGate a permanent stickied general thread that constantly updates on /v/.
Stopped reading there. Hello 8gag.
>>558342
>gamergate was censored.
>>>/8gag/
>>557008
They did and it was the final nail in the coffin for that place
The only way to fix /v/ would be a nuclear option.
Mass and permanent bans of people deemed problematic.
>>557008
They did and then it was removed because it did fuck all and only created more shitposting.
>>556964
>"what did they mean by this?"
The worst on any board
While we're at it how about
>What is the ___ of video games?
They're just stealth off topic threads that aren't even subtle.
People say /v/ is awful now but I think everyone is forgetting how terrible it was in 2011 and 2012 where generals were rampant, way too many off topic threads that reached bump limit, everyone wanted to be the next "popular" trip fag, Katawa Shoujo being the final nail in the coffin that lead to /vg/ being made.
/v/ now needs to be moderated better but few years back it was a free for all shitfest, as I post this a Todd posting thread got deleted but back then 3 more would have been going and they'd all hit bump limit.
>>559100
You're right, but I think no one took /v/ even remotely seriously back then, so people didn't care in the slightest. Now, some people see that there is potential for improvement on /v/, so they call for improvements.
>>556634
>no fun allowed
autism at it's finest /v/
So I guess that thread Hiro made was all for nothing. Swaglord went over the line with /v/ today and tried to treat it like /s4s/.
This fucker needs the boot already
More so please create a safe heaven for us.
Just need better moderation just like any big boards.here
>>559656
I'm just about convinced that many of the mods are simply bad people to begin with.
