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Hillary shills are raiding us.

Pic related, something posted to the Trump General from last night. We tried finding the original post on Reddit but they must've deleted it since they probably found out.
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It's hilarious how /pol/ acts like this bunch of edgy kids who never get offended at anything and the moment something like this happens they're the first to whine to the mods.
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>>520803
>lmao fuck liberal cucks who need safe spaces
>m-m-m-MOOOOOOOOODS! shillary posters are invading our safe spaces!
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Get fucked /pol/fag. Your board is cancer.
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>>520809
>>520810
.02 cents have been deposited into your account
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I find it unlikely that actual Hillary supporters would organise something like this. Sounds like people who just want to fuck with /pol/.
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>>520815
Nice thought terminating cliche. /pol/ couldnt exist with out them, but its why youve been BTFO. throughout all of history. And always will be. Have fun being a lonely loser cuck.
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>>520827
It was literally posted to Shillary's subrebbit, by the head moderator
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>>520803
But where's the proof?
It's probably just meant to scare you. Ignore it.
Spamming Hillary porn won't make Trump supporters switch, so just ignore it if you don't like it.
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>>520803
>We tried finding the original post on Reddit but they must've deleted it
Yes, I'm sure that was the reason.
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>>520837
Conspiracies abound
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>>520840
just look lad /pol/ is infested by shills
http://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-pac-spends-1-million-to-correct-people-online-2016-4
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>>520870
You know you can just have your own thoughts though right, like you don't have to listen to what people on the internet say
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>>520810
There's a difference between voicing your opinion and violating >>>/global/rules/4. This applies to all parties involved.

>>520837
It wouldn't be the first time Hillary and/or their supporters tried to cover up their wrongdoings.
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>>520873
It's fake. The mods of that sub don't even sign their posts. There are several other things off about it.
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>>520809
/pol/ in a nutshell
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>>520876
Maybe but better be safe than sorry. >>520870 is enough proof that Hillary wants dissenting opinions to be silenced, even if that violates US law.
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>>520803
>blocking out names
Kill yourself redditor.
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>>520803
You guys are a bunch of fucking pussies.
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>>520803
>"trump general"
Why do you need a hugbox chatroom for one political camp? Either have a thread for the election or just fuck off to reddit.
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>>520870
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>>520873
>no raids
>not even intra raids
>/pol/acks still allowed to raid this many boards
nice hugbox
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>>520803
>political campaign pays posters to purposefully drown out any and all content, post rule-breaking spam all hours of the day
>"lmao fucking /pol/fags getting mad over their safespace haha get fucked!"
Making two dozen threads per hour and evading bans is a little more noteworthy than simply posting an opinion others disagree with on the board. If it were any other board, action would have already been taken.
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>>520910
>/pol/
>raiding boards
This has never happened. Just because someone claims to be from /pol/, that doesn't mean they actually are.
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>>520803
>they must've deleted it since they probably found out.
aka you made a troll image, are you proud of yourself?
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>>520920
Shouldn't you be astroturfing on 4chan for money?
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>>520912
When will action be taken on the Stormfront invaders?
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Everyone on 4chan thinks /pol/ is a joke, nice.
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>>520922
Why would they publicly post about their astroturfing and then delete it, instead of posting it in a private subreddit?
I can see you're butthurt your fake image fucking sucks lol.
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>>520925
Stormfront and /pol/ are not the same, even though the former likes to pretend that the latter is.

>>520927
I'm not even OP but you still bit the bait hard.
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>>520925
>"Is ___ white?" threads not allowed, as per the sticky
>get made every fucking day
Racial discussion's fine and all, but I often see threads which appear to serve no purpose other than division.
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>name and relevant information blocked
Hmmmm
It's almost as though someone was protecting the identity of their false flag account
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>/pol/tards being this butthurt that someone has a different opinion than they do
>While insisting they're somehow better than SJWs who do the exact same thing

I for one am ready to see Hillary Rodham Clinton be the first female POTUS.
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>>520944
See >>520873. Paying to shill and spam is not an opinion.
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>>520947
>ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A SHILL I'M NOT BEING PARANOID WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE /pol/?!?!

Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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>>520948
See >>520870. She admitted it.
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>>520949
See >>520871. Or don't, since you're just going to keep whining like a baby since you're literally incapable of accepting that not everyone on this site is a Stormnigger.
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>>520951
see
>>520815
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>>520951
Stormfront != /pol/

It's not my problem that you fall for Stormfront nonsense or that you ignore basic truths.
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>>520953
So you have literally no argument except to spout buzzwords at me? Awesome. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.

>>520956
See >>520925.
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>>520957
>some Stormfront retards spam /pol/ means /pol/ = Stormfront
No one can be this naive.
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>>520957
>/pol/ is stormfront
>????
>Hillary's campaign astroturfing on 4chan is okay
>complaining about this makes you SJW
>additional unneeded insult

Great argument you're putting up here m80. The only confusing part for me is why you'd chose to do this.
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>>520962
He does it for the money, of course.
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>>520925
The problem is it looks like it worked. Eternal Anglos.
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>>520951
>since you're literally incapable of accepting that not everyone on this site is a Stormnigger.
When you can accept that not everyone who disagrees with you is automatically a shill or an SJW from reddit then you will be making progress.
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>>520925
>current year
>pic dated 2013
The stormnigs have won.
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>>520962
>/pol/ is stormfront
You're right, this place could be 8gag /pol/, but the fact that you feel the need to whine about this nonstop makes it obvious you're a stormfag

>Hillary's campaign astroturfing on 4chan is okay
But it's okay when it's about Trump, right?

>complaining about this makes you SJW
Complaining about it nonstop and refusing to accept that other people have different opinions than you makes you exactly like SJWs

>additional unneeded insult
Are you saying I triggered you? Wew, you sound like you're 12

>Great argument you're putting up here m80. The only confusing part for me is why you'd chose to do this.
Maybe because everyone else is sick of /pol/tards like you being unable to accept that 4chan isn't your personal hugbox?

>>520967
>When you can accept that not everyone who disagrees with you is automatically a shill or an SJW from reddit then you will be making progress.
Nigga, I honestly don't give a shit about Reddit, the fuck you on about?
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>>520803
>submitted just now
I realize this shit works on /pol/ but you need to try harder with people that have been on the internet longer than two weeks.
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Or how about we just not care?
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Thread theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dghay5K3B4M
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>>520975
>But it's okay when it's about Trump, right?
If you can't tell the difference between an actual thread and a shill thread you're even dumber than you're making yourself look here.
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>>520975
>But it's okay when it's about Trump, right?
No one is astroturfing for Trump.

>Complaining about it nonstop and refusing to accept that other people have different opinions than you makes you exactly like SJWs
So like what you're doing right now.
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>>520983
You never answered my question.

>>520985
>No one is astroturfing for Trump.
Have you even left /pol/? There's always thinly veiled Trump threads on boards like /v/, /tv/, etc, and everywhere you go on the internet there are Trump fanatics posting their propaganda. Just because you somehow think all of 4chan loves Trump doesn't mean there aren't people "shilling" for him.

>So like what you're doing right now.
I'm not the one constantly making threads complaining about people having different opinions.
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>/pol/ asking if something is "okay"
/pol/ confirmed for hugbox
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>>520987
>You never answered my question.
You asked three, all of them pretty retarded
did you know there's a wikihow on tying a noose? you should check it out.
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>>520989
Thanks, I'll submit it to the e-how subreddit and earn karma on it.
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I fully believe that there's shilling being done on /pol/, including shilling done by Trump-supporters.
It's just naive to say that there's no Trump-shilling.
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>>520987
>Have you even left /pol/?
I don't even go there so thanks for proving my point.

>There's always thinly veiled Trump threads on boards like /v/
>like /v/
>/v/
Who cares, kek?
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>>520989
Again, you didn't answer my question. Throwing a tantrum doesn't make you right.

>>520992
Acting like you suddenly don't care only makes you look like a retard, FYI. Thanks for proving my point.
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>>520999
>Again, you didn't answer my question
Again, you're still not hanging in a door-frame by an old rope
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>>520999
Why would I care about Trump threads on /v/ when /v/ has far bigger problems?
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>>521001
Yes, yes, continue to insult me and post smug anime reaction images. That'll surely prove your point.

>>521002
>Why would I care about Trump threads on /v/ when /v/ has far bigger problems?
See >>520985
>No one is astroturfing for Trump
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>>521004
Yes, yes, continue to insult anons and post smug laughing reaction images. That'll surely prove your point.
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>>521004
That doesn't prove astroturfing. If anything, it's just /v/ acting like /b/ as usual.
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>>521007
It's so obvious that those threads are Trumpfags shilling for him, don't even try and deny it.

>This much damage control
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>it's another /pol/ vs the Internet thread
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>>521012
/v/ is riddled with underage posters. You're taking it too seriously tbqh senpai.
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>>521012
>Trumpfags shilling
>trumpfags, genuine supporters
>shilling, making threads for their candidate of choice
Find me a real Hillaryfag, I've been looking and only see ironic sarcastic support at best, paid robo-posts at worst. The difference between a candidate-general thread and a shill-thread is actual support.
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>still going on 4chan /pol/ in 2016
Wow, you might as well be wearing a big hat saying "I'm a proud redditor"
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>>521021
>/pol/ is stormfront!
>/pol/ is reddit!
which is it though?
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>caring about /pol/
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>>521024
>Anonymous is one person
XDD
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/pol/ needs to take it easy
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>>521020
2x Obama-voting registered democrat and Hillary supporter here.

Can I help you?
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>>521020
>shilling, making threads for their candidate of choice
So the hundreds of daily Trump threads posted all over isn't shilling, but one Hillary thread is, just because you don't like her?

>Find me a real Hillaryfag
If I did, you would continue to deny it.

>I've been looking and only see ironic sarcastic support at best, paid robo-posts at worst. The difference between a candidate-general thread and a shill-thread is actual support.
Who's to say they don't support Hillary for real? And who's to say every Trump poster actually 100% supports him and isn't just posting Trump threads to rustle jimmies/create memes?
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>>521026
So /pol/ is a mixture of hyper-rightwing nationalists and hugbox liberal sjws, and this board is spontaneously generating new Hillary2016 threads despite both groups being decidedly against her. These aren't shill threads whatsoever, despite her campaign funding 'correct the record' being a major news story, and complaining about this sudden influx of new threads is just whining.
That's what you're maintaining?
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>>521030
>So the hundreds of daily Trump threads posted all over isn't shilling, but one Hillary thread is
One daily thread that rolls over into the next one as the old one is deleted, VS dozens of Hillary threads getting created in the span of minutes. There's no way you aren't just trolling at this point.
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>>521024
4/pol/ has become infested with reddit, look at the fucking catalog there.
Literal YLYL threads there.
People responding to obvious b8, like those "So your against illegal immigration, Splendid when do you leave!" memes that get posted daily but still manage to get 500+ replies almost everytime. etc
They even advise shilling on reddit even though it's fucked them up so badly.
/pol/ is beyond saving at this point
All the best /pol/ users fled to 8/pol/ during December 2014.

Stormfront hasn't shilled on /pol/ in years by the way
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>>521033
>One daily thread that rolls over into the next one as the old one is deleted, VS dozens of Hillary threads getting created in the span of minutes.
So it's only okay when it's about Trump? That's what it sounds like.

>There's no way you aren't just trolling at this point.
I wish I could say the same about you.
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>>521037
>All the best /pol/ users fled to 8/pol/ during December 2014.
Is that where SpaceElevator went? I miss that guy.
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>>521033
>One daily thread that rolls over into the next one as the old one is deleted
There's over 25 Trump threads on /pol/ right now. Unless we're just talking about generals. Then Hillary has 0 threads.
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>>521041
>That's what it sounds like
In what world? the Trump general thread is full of relevant video links, policy information, updates on the campaign, if you're someone interested in the campaign at all it's a good place to go.
Hillary threads get made with a single piece of copypasta and get saged off the board with a dozen "fuck off" posts before the OP makes a second, third, fourth, and fifth thread all cluttering the board at once.
What even is your argument? You seem to hate /pol/ intensely, so I'm not sure what the point of you lurking a "can we do something to make /pol/ suck less" thread even is, apart from rustling jimmies.
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>>521024
/pol/ is the place where stormfront redpills people who got banned from reddit or feel uncomfortable posting their actual opinions on reddit.
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>>521050
I also hate there being a plethora of basically similar threads, I'm all for the Trumpgen but having a dozen or more threads from people who could just as easily have googled an answer or asked in the general is pretty irritating.
I miss scrolling through the catalog and seeing at least half a dozen interesting threads on widely different topics, maybe once this election is finally over things will settle back down.
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>>521054
My fucking sides
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>>521054
Major kek
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ITT trolls trolling shills shilling shills trolling trolls
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>>520803
>Hillary shills are raiding us.

The saddest thing is that there is actually someone out there who would post these five words completely seriously.
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>>521051
>In what world? the Trump general thread is full of relevant video links, policy information, updates on the campaign, if you're someone interested in the campaign at all it's a good place to go.
Why do you need a general? Are you afraid of people posting opinions that differ from yours? Why not just have a general election thread, where you can discuss whatever candidates you want and try to sway people from the other side? Generals encourage a hugbox mentality, since any differing opinions are typically discouraged and, in some cases, silenced.

>Hillary threads get made with a single piece of copypasta and get saged off the board with a dozen "fuck off" posts before the OP makes a second, third, fourth, and fifth thread all cluttering the board at once.
You ever think maybe those threads get posted because of how easy it is to trigger /pol/?

>What even is your argument? You seem to hate /pol/ intensely, so I'm not sure what the point of you lurking a "can we do something to make /pol/ suck less" thread even is, apart from rustling jimmies.
My point is that so many people are sick of babies like the OP asking for help because not everyone agrees with him. The fact that you're still trying to defend that kind of mentality proves how pathetic /pol/ really is.

Now, since it's obvious you're never going to listen or even consider what I've said, I'm going to leave the thread so you can feel as though you've "won", although I'm sure many people would disagree with that statement. Have a good day and stay mad.
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>>521070
Except even the mainstream media published news of Hillary paying shills to defend her.
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>>521076
>I'm going to leave the thread so you can feel as though you've "won"
Oh wow
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>>521076
>Why not just have a general election thread, where you can discuss whatever candidates you want and try to sway people from the other side? Generals encourage a hugbox mentality, since any differing opinions are typically discouraged and, in some cases, silenced.
Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy doesn't apply to 4chan.
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>>521085
The 4chan format encourages disagreeing replies. You can't have those if you try to segregate posters by their opinions.
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>>521076
>You ever think maybe those threads get posted because of how easy it is to trigger /pol/
It only took a few hours before you directly stated your defense of rule-breaking shitposting
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>>521083
Ah. Nevermind, it looks like you lost.
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ITT: Liberal damage control
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*ghostbumps the thread*
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>>520916
>because someone claims to be a hillary shill
>doesn't mean they actually are

Think about it, and just don't answer to threads you think are shills.
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>>521093
4chan used to encourage disagreeing replies, before boards were split up into a million boards.

Sub-boards are basically like generals. They breed hugbox mentality.
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>>520926
>"We will have an army of angry basement dwelling neckbeards to fill the internet with our message 24/7"
It is scary how 100% to reality this is right now.
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>>521301
>he actually fell for the bait
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>>520929
>Stormfront and /pol/ are not the same, even though the former likes to pretend that the latter is.
I actually feel bad for the part of /pol/ that wasn't totally crazy rightwing fanatics but sadly they overrun the board and heavily influenced the culture.
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>>520962
Actually, why allow only one site to have paid posters? If anything /pol/ really needs more diverse topic discussion and well actual discussion. Just /ss/ spamming the board won't do that.
Congratulations, you are once again just a little cog in the machine, brick in the wall, cuk in the shed or whatever you would like to be called.
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>>520982
Here is another theme because this thread will last a little longer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY
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>submitted just now by REDACTED
>1 upboat (from the poster)
>signed "Head Moderator"

bull fuckin shit
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>>521310
very appropriate
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>>521027
Those were wise words by moot but most of /pol/ is too far gone to not be triggered spam 24/7.
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>>520803
>censoring an image to try and make it harder to find
Yeah, let's ban all that Hillary discussion, this obviously isn't a shit stirrer.
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>>521307
About halfway through, your post stops making sense.
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>>520803
>/pol/lacks complaining about raiding
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>>521345
/pol/ has never raided. And tu quoque is not a valid argument.
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>>521348
What do you think the origin of "/pol/ is leaking again" is?
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>>521348
/pol was a gud goy n dindu nuffin
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>>520829
Trump isn't the only other candidate. Billary and Dump are both bad decisions for virtually the same reasons.
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>>521364
This is some poor bait.
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>>521365
Translation: "I can't come up with a good response to this post so I will simply dismiss it."
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>>520809
Success brings weak-minded people
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>>521371
You know what else brings weak-minded people? Failure.
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>>520944
Spamming and causing thread derailments isnt an argument you fucking retard


I'm all for /pol/ being a polotics board but the other side has to play fair as well and give sources and facts insted of just shit
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>>520944
Dumb frogposter
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>>520985
>no one is shilling for trump
Come on nigga
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>>521378
Like this?
>>520829
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>>521383
>anyone on /pol/
>playing fair
>giving sources
>not just accusing sources of being jewish, sjw, academic liberal media
What
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>>520803
>self.hillaryclinton

hmmm

I'm not up on the workings of lebbit, but this seems like you made this post yourself.
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>>521445
Won't stop /pol/ from believing
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>>521445
>>521449
Nah, actual Redditor here. Self just means that it's a text post instead of a link to some other site. A "self post" because it's content created by the actual user.
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>>520975
Wow you're an idiot
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>>521450
>/pol/ admitting to be reddit
Who would have thought. Of course, there's still absolutely no reason anyone saving that screenshot would redact any of the information.
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>>520975

The board is for political discussion, It leans towards Right-wing politics for memes but it will and always will be a Right-wing board


/pol/ is pro trump because he's the current most POLITICALLY INCORRECT Candidate

People are welcome to voice different opinions but shitposting none stop "???? is racist" and other shit (you) baiting memes isn't an other opinion
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>>521457
>Of course, there's still absolutely no reason anyone saving that screenshot would redact any of the information.

To troll, duh? Means you have to actually go to Reddit to find out what's being said. Heh, for all the Reddit hate it sure is easy for Reddit to troll you guys. That's why we keep doing it.
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>>521462
>UNIRONICALLY TAKING THE NAME OF THE BOARD COMPLETELY LITERALLY

HOLY FUCKING SHIT. ARE YOU STUPID? THE BOARD WAS JUST NAMED "POLITICS" FOR FUCKING YEARS.
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>>521467
It was just news when the stormnigs took it over.
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>>521473
NO, NEWS WAS THE NAME OF A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BOARD, YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT. LEARN YOUR GODDAMN 4CHAN HISTORY.
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>>521467
>>521481
Ease off the caps, anon, it's never once made an anon look correct
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>>521559
>HIS KEYBOARD DOESNT EVEN HAVE CRUISE CONTROL
>LAUGHINGSHIFTKEY.GIF
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>>520827
Yeah. Smells like a false flag.
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>>521024
reddit is stormfront.
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lol uv'e never had sex
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>>520803
>something posted to the Trump General from last night
Try harder. https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/image/H0K2tsOvAO77suwbNFAoAg/order/asc/
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>>520809
>edgy kids
>>520810
>imgur filename
>>520944
>frogposting
>>520975
>Nigga
>>521054
>le redpill stormfront boogeyman
>>521450
>Nah, actual Redditor here
>>521611
>kek vrigin xDD

/qa/ is literally Rebbit.
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>>521644
https://www.reddit.com/r/hillaryclinton/search?q=4chan&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all
Check that out, no results. Good one, /pol/
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>>520925

There was never a "Stormfront invasion" in any significant number.

Look at the links in those threads.

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t922140/
>9 posts
>"4chan? isn't that the pedo bunch?"

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t863802/
>one guy with 12 posts talking about Anonymous the actual group and its evolution, not 4chan, most people disagreeing

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t610021/
>5 posts
>one guy talking about one thread on 4chan, like thousands of people do on other sites (some political)

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t900887/
>same as above, some people talking about 4chan like they do on other sites
>"4chan is a bit much for me. I have a weak stomach and there's too many degenerates/reprobates on there."
>"Yeah, and 4chan is the board that frequently organizes DDOS attacks against Stormfront. I don't know how you slipped through, but you are leaving NOW."

4chan has always had people like this.
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>>521656
Are you new? Stormfront purged tons of 4chan related threads, and those are just examples. He's not saying there's tons of them, he's saying that back when it was a somewhat smaller board there were dedicated shills, enough to make a difference. Just like 4chan after raids were banned, organization is elsewhere in chat rooms, because posting something like >>521644 in a publicly accessible forum permanently archived isn't smart (not that stormniggers are smart).

>4chan has always had people like this.
Not really. You must be new. They only grew in number after Hal Turner. Shoopdawoop, happy nigra, Pools Closed, nigga stole my bike are clearly all only superficially racist. Even stormniggers said so.
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>>521656
And also your picture explains what happened. News was a tiny insignificant board. Stormniggers made it their base of operation, and made it grow in size as a go-to place to anonymously discuss stormnigger shit. It snowballed into /pol/. It was tiny before. 4chan may have had people like that, but not in any significant number.
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>>521689

The guy was framing it like they only came in 2012-2013, now you're saying they came in 2006-2007? To me it makes sense that /b/ always had some people like this since it's anonymous and it was always a place for the worst things you could find on the internet, they were probably the ones posting Wyatt Mann memes the most. Then they moved to /n/ once they had a board specifically for it.
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https://archive.is/IJQc6
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>>521699
>The guy was framing it like they only came in 2012-2013
I'm not that guy

>now you're saying they came in 2006-2007
I said after.

>To me it makes sense
Wether or not it makes sense to you doesn't make it true. That was mostly an affectation and form of hazing and keeping people away. /b/ was extremely judgemental of it's own user base. It's not like the current 4chan hugboxes where there is a board consensus. Even memes were debated if they were forced or not. You in fact, could not find a lot that /b/ could agree on except the value of anonymity and making fun of retards. Having agreement was unusual. /b/ would argue over the most inane shit. And usually the people who lost were the stupid people that were easy to trigger, and easy to mock, because everyone jumped in to pick low hanging fruit.

It's extremely clear that old /b/ racism was just superficial and edgy. It was called an internet hate machine because it was an equal opportunity hater of things. It's not like the current boards, where some things are sacred cows, and the board would jump to it's defense.

There's also the fact that /b/ was mostly just a bunch of nerdy losers, and nerdy losers weren't mostly neo-reactionary before gamergate. 4chan got a huge flux of traffic especially during that time, because 4chan was known as that place you could post shit anonymously at, dox, organize raids, etc when they were getting mass bans from other places on the internet. We know what happened after that though, but that doesn't mean they weren't brought here with the same ideas you have.

You wouldn't know, because you're new.

>they were probably the ones posting Wyatt Mann memes the most.
/b/ thought they were stupid and worth of ridicule, just how you post reddit and tumblr screen caps on /pol/ today. Hence Hal Turner.
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>>521711
shut up cuck
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My point is that even if most people only did it to be edgy, there was always your "Stormfront" boogeyman. People have beliefs, and they always posted on the internet, especially on places like /b/ which always considered the cesspit of the internet.

>neo-reactionary
Using buzzwords like that doesn't really lend your case more credibility, neither does trying to frame anyone who disagrees with you as a "nerdy loser". People have been complaining about idiots way before 2014.

>I said after.
Then how would you explain that they were already here when /n/ was deleted in 2007? Anyway, you agreed with me that people like that have always been here in your second post anyway, so I don't know why you keep arguing.

>You wouldn't know, because you're new.
You sound like a Redditor who just read ED and want history to fit your ideals.

>Hal Turner
And of course Hal Turner, one guy, is the only thing you can bring up.to prove your point.
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>>521737
This one 'old anon' you posted could have been just another shill trying to influence opinions.
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>>521703
>using archive
You are not in china and have crucial websites blocked. Stop being an 8gagger and link the sites directly you spam over 4chan.
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>>521745

You mean like you?

>durrrr all of old /b/ was really proper and PC I swear on me mum it's inconceivable that people would go on an anonymous board to talk about things that are not PC

If anything you're the shill. It's always the same lies with you.

>muh Stormfront
>muh GamerGate
>muh /pol/
>muh "neo-reactionaries"

Kill yourself retard. I can barely even find actual "Stormfags" on /pol/ or /b/ now, let alone on other boards, yet I'm supposed to believe that they're the major threat to 4chan while you shitters keep whining about them endlessly on /qa/ and everywhere else and pushing your own brand of bullshit, making you more annoying than they could ever be.
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>>521737
>People have beliefs, and they always posted on the internet, especially on places like /b/ which always considered the cesspit of the internet.
/b/ was not mainstream back then. The first real media coverage it got was hackers on steroids. There was also a culture of lurking before spewing your shit everywhere unlike now, where 4chan really is just a dumping ground for awful shit.

> buzzwords
It's accurate. But good job with the reddit accusation.

>neither does trying to frame anyone who disagrees with you as a "nerdy loser"
Do you lack reading comprehension? I mean, are you a complete fucking idiot?

>People have been complaining about idiots way before 2014
Is that how you gauge newness or something? I don't get what you're getting at.

>Then how would you explain that they were already here when /n/ was deleted in 2007?
I only said after Hal Turner, I didn't give a date. You're trying to pin me as 2013 guy. I'm not, as I already said before. That doesn't make his point invalid though.

>You sound like a Redditor who just read ED and want history to fit your ideals.
No, that's you. Any actual oldfag is fed up with /pol/ reading ED and trying to claim it's legacy as their own.

>And of course Hal Turner, one guy, is the only thing you can bring up.to prove your point.
It was a high profile raid at the time, and yes, it marks a turning point relative to the discussion. But I'm sure you think /b/ making swastikas with nigras on habbo constitutes deep seated beliefs, and not just being edgy as fuck.

You literally based your opinion on what you think makes sense to you. I mean, you basically pretty much admitted to being new, and now you're trying to accuse someone else of revisionism.

>>521745
Or he could be an actual oldfag. Not that's there's many left, considering 4chan is both much larger than back then, and I've guessing by now most oldfags have stopped using 4chan regularly.
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>>520803
> Censoring out the only details which would allow verification instead of exposing your enemy
> Not a false flag

The depths of /pol/'s retardation is breathtaking. They will eat this shit hook line and sinker everytime. Fucking faggots to the last.
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>>521751
>durrrr all of old /b/ was really proper and PC I swear on me mum it's inconceivable that people would go on an anonymous board to talk about things that are not PC
Where was that even implied? Old /b/ would have hated everyone. This is something you newfags don't seem to get. It's not that they would have acted nice. It's that they would have attacked anything and everything. You would get the same Shillary and Bernie cuck posting as you would now, but there would be at least as much posting about how retarded Trump and his supporters are. Old /b/ much more readily attacked anything than it defended anything. Who came out on top after being chewed up by /b/ was the least retarded person, and everything sent to /b/ would get chewed out. That's the difference with /pol/ and current 4chan.

It was the same with stormnigger tier racism. It was mocked for them being retarded, which is well documented. 4chan memes were intentionally retarded, often intentionally edgy and not PC, and for the lulz. 4chan was plenty politically incorrect. That doesn't mean 4chan was right leaning.

/pol/ is so caught up in their narrative of tumblinas, safe spaces, and SJWs that they perceive that anything not PC must be leaning hard right and infographic tier retardation.

>actual "Stormfags"
You do realize the term stormiggers is used much more loosely than people who actually post on stormfront and came from stormfront, right? Or do you actually believe every time you say JIDF, there's an actual hook nosed jew rubbing his hands together shilling behind a computer while logged onto the JIDF website?
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>>521775
>edit
>delet
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>>521787
>>521768
Do you faggots ever just stop and review? Like, are you legitimately this happy to waste this much time typing out all this TL;DR bullshit in the vein hope of winning some inconsequential argument.. On 4chan of all fucking places? Is this genuinely the pinnacle of your day you sad autistic fucks?

Imagine if you had put all this passion into learning how to interact with people. You'd have all sorts of better things to do with your time than this. Dayum shame.
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>>521791
t. normalfag
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>>521792
If not being a raging child makes me a normalfag, then sign me the fuck up.
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>>521793
t. normalfag
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>>520985
>No one is astroturfing for Trump.
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>>521791
>>521793
Why are you even on 4chan?
Fucking normals.
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>>521787
>Old /b/
>not electing Trump for lulz
Search your feelings anon, you know it to be true
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>>520803
you guys are janus faced hypocrites
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>>521768
>It's accurate.

It's also a buzzword used in specific circles.

>I don't get what you're getting at.
That these people were here way before "Gamergate" in 2014, you obviously weren't here before if you don't think that, peple had been doing about the exact same things for years before that.

4chan has always been "reactionary" in some sense. They wanted to conserve the internet as a Wild West free of social norms where they can say and do whatever they want. Then moralfags came in, they brought their need for political correctness, they wanted to add more regulations and censorship on the internet which threatened to turn the internet like real life

So if "reactionary" here means "returning to a previous state in society", then 4chan has always been like that since they always wanted to keep the internet like the old web and not mainstream. PC and regulated to prevent hurt feelings, which is a reactionary position. If you mean "neo-reactionary" as in "Dark Enlightenment" then I don't know how many people really subscribe to that or could be called that, but these kinds of things have been around for years, if anything modern /pol/ and /b/ have too many people who have mundane boring politics instead of stuff like this

>You literally based your opinion on what you think makes sense to you.
Because I was too young to think of things in that way, and I didn't come here that much. It's just funny to hear people saying that /b/ was somehow free of "Stormfags". This is one of the first images I saved when I came here: >>521751

>>521787
>as much posting about how retarded Trump and his supporters are
Probably because there's already the rest of the internet if you want to do that now, it's been so polarized that you have political factions trying to take up as much space as they can. Even /pol/ and 4chan in general have plenty of anti-Trump fags though

>stormiggers is used much more loosely
The original argument was about a Stormfront invasion.
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>>521439
like this?
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>>520829
>but its why youve been BTFO. throughout all of history. And always will be. Have fun being a lonely loser cuck.
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>>520944
http://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-pac-spends-1-million-to-correct-people-online-2016-4


http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/politics/2012/10/china%E2%80%99s-paid-trolls-meet-50-cent-party

Super interesting
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>>521797
Stop being retarded. Showing genuine support for a candidate is not the same thing as being a paid shill.
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>>521749
It's just a link to attempt of 8gag to take over a site
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>>521907
t. trump shill
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>>521899
You mean like all of the other candidates?
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>>521920

How is it relevant to this thread though? All they're doing is creating their own board on voat, like you can do on 8gag and Rebbit.
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>>521924
Bernie made the grand total of $1,867.42
Hillary made $153 million

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/27/1475811/-Bernie-Sanders-comes-clean-about-his-paid-speaking-fees
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/242740-bernie-sanders-2014-speaking-gigs-netted-less-than-2k
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/bernie-sanders-reveals-he-earned-186742-in-speaking-fees-compared-to-the-clintons-153m-a6861951.html

And he gave that to charity

So Bernie makes $1,867.42 then gives it to charity
Hillary makes over $153 million and pockets the money

But nice try, bootlicker
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>>521932
Bernie earns $174,000 a year as a US Senator though.

Hillary earns nothing because she doesn't have a job besides campaigning for office.
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>>521942
>Booklicker gonna lick

So a guy that makes $174,000 being a Senator is worse than some hag that was the Secretary of the State up until 2013(Former U.S. Senator from New York
From: January 3, 2001 – January 21, 2009) that makes her money giving speeches and making more money than the Senator?
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>>521944
Some old senile commie Jew is better than Shillary. My fucking sides. Just fucking burn this world to crisp already
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>>521951
>I have no retort and I must comment
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>>521944
Bernie has been a Senator for 30 years though. What's 30x $174,000 ?
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>>521932
>>521944
So you're agreeing that all the other candidates have made money from public speaking? Super interesting.

I'd bet that the only reason trump decided to finally run this year is so he could bolster the amount he gets paid to speak as a consolation.
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99.9% of shilling on /pol/ is /pol/ trolling itself as an excuse to post more maymays
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I know /pol/ contains edgy racist assholes and goosestepping neo-Nazis, but don't make excuses for this pathetic bullshit. I condemn ALL forms of political deception, whichever side it tries to shill. It's completely unjustifiable and seeing all this lazy, unapologetic acceptance of this conspiracy to degrade a forum is disgusting.

This kind of rabid, anti-intellectual back stabbing concedes any kind of moral authority. Just like censorship, it's an admission that you can't compete honestly, with reasonable arguments. This strongly implies that you're in the wrong and you know it, and when these cowardly tactics are exposed, you lose support from any reasonable witnesses that might have converted if you'd just been honest and persuasive.

If /pol/ is so wrong then why can't you debate them? Present your argument. If you're met with shitposting or logical fallacies, or inferior arguments, then you've won. You'll gain sympathy for your side from any impartial observers.

Instead, you lie and cheat, and then openly, gleefully admit it, as though these things are perfectly fine if some of the people you are lying to are distasteful bigots and idiots.

>NO BAD TACTICS ONLY BAD TARGETS
There's a good reason this "end justifies the means" attitude is mocked by your opponents. Please try to figure it out before you make yourselves look even worse than the Trump supporters.
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>>521922
>t.
Fuck off, normalfag.
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>>522025
>neo-Nazi
This word doesn't mean what you think it means.
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>>522029
Please enlighten me. I've seen support for Hitler and the Nazi ideology on /pol/, and lots of general racism and homophobia. While I think it probably means slightly different things to different people, even amongst those who identify as neo-Nazi, I assumed it simply described that kind of extreme bigotry, combined with openly and loudly being a Nazi sympathiser.
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>>522033
Nazism = National Socialism

Those people are definitely nationalists but they sure as heck aren't socialists.

And these days "neo-Nazi" is another term used against critics of Islam (along with the pathetic misnomer that is "Islamophobia") despite Muslims being the greatest sympathizers and/or supporters of Nazis in history.

Hitler himself loved Islam due to similarities it had with Nazism. In Germany today, very old German people are arrested simply for being linked to the Nazi regime back in its heyday, however flimsily, while Muslim invaders (oh sorry, "migrants" or "refugees") shout ADOLF HITLER, SIEG HEIL, etc. in the streets of Germany while benefitting from police protection.

If you want to not lose credibility, then stop using the term "neo-Nazi". It has become another meaningless insult to silence any dissent and opposition.
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>>522042
How are they any different than socialists? Except socialists believe in multiracialism, while nationalists believe in ethnic nationalism, but both support economic socialism.
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>>522045
Where on /pol/ do you see anyone favoring socialism, communism, etc.?
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>>522045
Not that Anon, but I don't think socialism has anything to do with opinions on race, it's only concerned with the ownership of various aspects of society.

People who believe in multiracialism or racial tolerance/inclusivity call themselves progressives, liberals, multiculturalists or (more radically) social justice warriors. If I have it correctly, all progressives are socialists (or at least economically left-wing), but not all socialists are progressives.
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>>522049
Plus socialists are against capitalism, private property, etc., which rarely fits the description of "neo-Nazis".
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>submitted just now
You have no idea how easy it is to read what's going on in this picture and I don't even use reddit. The person who posted this also upvoted it themselves and then took the screenshot probably just so they could post it on /pol/.

Are you fucking telling me anyone actually fell for this minimum effort bait?
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>>522072
Nice catch. I have to admit, I was taken in by it. I'll try to be less credulous in future but it really is very plausible. I'd be surprised if people on all sides aren't doing this (but more covertly). After all, the first three replies ITT were quite accepting of this tactic and tried to make excuses for it.
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>>522080
>After all, the first three replies ITT were quite accepting of this tactic and tried to make excuses for it.
Ah, those were just trolls goy
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>>522072
4chan is now the site of the easily trolled. Not the hive of actual trolls it used to be
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>>522089
this sums it up succinctly
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>>522086
>>522089
Just because OP is trolling doesn't mean it isn't actually happening, which it is since Hillary brags about paid shills in the mainstream media.
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>>522093
You reply = you got trolled
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>>522093
Stupid goy
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>>520803
I like mein kampf :3
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I don't normally visit /pol/, and I don't like Trump at all, beyond his tendency to violently trigger SJWs. But in the hour I've been lurking there I found this image, obviously fabricated to defame Trump. Here is the video proving it false, although it's really not necessary as this image would have been spammed everywhere if it were true, along with the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI

There's no way to prove this was done by a paid shill, and plenty of people hate Trump enough to do this for free. But it does say a lot about the mindset of some of the anti-Trump people. And the fact that OP's image was fabricated to defame Hillary supporters (by suggesting they're shilling on /pol/) shows that anti-Hillary folks are resorting to these dirty tactics too.

Whoever wins this election, a lot of people are going to be very upset.
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>>522072
Redditor here, the real smoking gun is that the edit button is available. This is undeniable proof that the person who took the screencap is the poster of that "evidence."

It's a pretty poor effort desu.
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>>521028
What do you think about her destruction of Honduras?
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>>522128
It also makes it a better troll/shill. I hate seeing shit threads like that stay up for hours when a better thread could've been there instead.
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>Head Moderator

This reminds me of the guy who hacked Polytron's website and said he was the "head moderator over at /V/ and leader of 4chan.org and Anonymous". Probably the same troll.
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>>521751
>all of the racist bubble being in the retard bubble
hehe
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>>522568
>the newfag who posted that diagram didn't notice it
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>>523005

I did notice it dumbass. I'm not saying everyone on 4chan was a racist (or a pedophile, or anything else, the guy who made that image obviously wasn't one), I'm saying racists have always been here, ironic, unironic, joking, casual, just doing it to be edgy, or any other kind.

Meanwhile cunts like you keep pinning it on Stormfront invasions, /pol/ boogeymen, "neo-reactionaries", and you can't even differentiate between whether it's joking or serious anymore because for you it's all "/pol/" propaganda.
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>>523019
LIke it matters if it's "ironic" , "joking" or "serious" if it's leaks all over the site and makes every board into race themed shit flinging.
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>>523031

It does matter if I can't even call you a double nigger because Redditors think it's some /pol/ thing. And if you don't like race-baiting or offensive comments, ignore them or report them if they're off-topic instead of crying about it constantly and jumping on anyone who does it, which only derails and shits things up further.
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