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Can get keep one of these running as we watch the country disintegrate in real time?

>Venezuela president Nicolás Maduro declares state of emergency
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/14/venezuela-maduro-emergency-powers
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/15/americas/venezuela-slide-into-crisis/

>Venezuela’s right-wing opposition coalition, the Democratic Unity Roundtable (MUD), turned over 1.8 million signatures in support of a recall referendum against President Nicolas Maduro to the National Electoral Council (CNE) on Monday.
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11960

>Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro urged supporters to launch a general strike and "rebellion" if the opposition succeeds in ousting him from office in a referendum.
http://www.dailysabah.com/americas/2016/05/02/venezuelas-maduro-calls-for-rebellion-if-opposition-ousts-him-in-referendum

>Dying Infants and No Medicine: Inside Venezuela’s Failing Hospitals
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/16/world/americas/dying-infants-and-no-medicine-inside-venezuelas-failing-hospitals.html?_r=0

>Mobs in Venezuela have stolen flour, chicken and even underwear this week as looting increases across the crisis-hit OPEC nation where many basic products have run short.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/13/venezuela-looters-target-chicken-flour-amid-worsening-shortages.html

>Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro announced undefined “military exercises” for the embattled nation, just a day after pledging to prolong his government’s special emergency powers.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-14/venezuela-plans-army-exercises-as-maduro-seeks-to-prolong-powers

>The United States is increasingly concerned about the potential for an economic and political meltdown in Venezuela, spurred by fears of a debt default, growing street protests and deterioration of its oil sector, U.S. intelligence officials said on Friday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-usa-idUSKCN0Y42MT
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>Venezuela's president threatens to take over idle factories and jail their owners following a decree of emergency powers this week
http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2016-05-14/maduro-threatens-to-seize-idle-venezuela-plants-jail-owners
http://www.reuters.com/video/2016/05/15/maduro-threatens-takeover-of-private-com?videoId=368503990
http://www.dw.com/en/venezuelas-maduro-sees-conspiracy-of-the-bourgeoisie-in-factory-shut-downs/a-19258912

>Pope Francis has sent a letter to President Nicolas Maduro urging him to work to solve the country’s problems.
http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/05/02/pope-writes-maduro-to-demand-action-on-venezuelas-woes/

>Opinion: Bolivarian socialism is quite obviously the worst economic policy anyone has tried to impose on a country since Robert Mugabe decided to take Zimbabwe back to the Stone Age.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/05/14/congratulations-to-bolivarian-socialism-at-least-venezuela-hasnt-run-out-of-tear-gas-yet/#6bede92e450a

>South America’s first high-speed train, powered by Chinese technology, was supposed to crisscross Venezuela to bring development to its backwater plains in a model of socialist fraternity. Now all but abandoned, it has become a symbol of economic collapse — and of a strategic relationship gone adrift.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/05/15/business/chinese-bullet-train-project-in-venezuela-stalls-as-alliance-derails/#.Vzi5B5ErKM8

>Venezuela accuses US of plotting coup as Washington warns of 'imminent collapse'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-accuses-us-of-plotting-coup-as-washington-warns-of-imminent-collapse-a7029386.html

>Venezuela accuses US of plotting coup as Washington warns of 'imminent collapse'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-accuses-us-of-plotting-coup-as-washington-warns-of-imminent-collapse-a7029386.html
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>"Washington is activating measures at the request of Venezuela's fascist right, who are emboldened by the coup in Brazil," Maduro said during a Friday night broadcast on state television.
https://www.rt.com/news/343010-venezuela-emergency-us-plots/

>Venezuela's socialist government on Thursday condemned the impeachment of Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff as a U.S.-inspired mockery of popular will and a menace to Latin America's now-diminishing leftist bloc.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-politics-venezuela-idUSKCN0Y32U5

From Venezuela:

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Nicolas-Maduro-Declares-Emergency-to-Face-Foreign-Intervention-20160514-0002.html
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Behind-the-Food-Lines-in-Venezuela-20160514-0035.html
http://www.vtv.gob.ve/
http://www.tves.gob.ve/
http://www.vive.gob.ve/

oil price:
http://www.bloomberg.com/energy
http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/crude-oil.aspx
http://oilprice.com/
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He ordered to take the factories and plants that have stopped production and threatened to jail their owners .

There is no way this will last. He wants to cut imports in half with a default above of them . And they live of to imports given by Brazil in exchange of oil. To worsen the situation now Brazil has turned to the right. They won't even be able to print currency.
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Should we invade now ?
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>>74095728

There will probably be a coup I think. The higher ranks are loyal to the goverment because they are tied in cases of corruption , but the rest of the military is eager to act.
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>>74095399

of couse Maduro is blaming the fall of Dilma in Brazil and the election of Macri in Argentina on "US-supported fascist bourgeoisie"

extreme socialists who think economics is right wing propaganda can't understand that factories would be forced to operate at a loss under govt price controls assuming they are even able to get electricity or import what they need to run them

USA is their main trading partner though, they sell us around 750,000 barrels of oil per day
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>>74096016
It's about time desu.
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>>74096336
I really dont see why South America shouldn't cooperate with the USA desu. I think it would be beneficial specially if Clinton loses this Election.
But that's just my opnion. Maduro, Morales, Dilma and Lula can be all hanged for all i care.
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Maybe they should try socialism for a change.
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>>74094921
You see the problem is that venezuelans are the ones tha must DO something about it, amd seeing how they havent done SHIT in the past 10 years or so i said venezuela is in for a long tume being shit.
Todos andan ahuevoneaos y no hacen un cebillo
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Any livestreams? Surely somebody is looting or rioting somewhere in Venezuela right now. Let's get a proper happening thread going
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>>74094921
>Can get keep one of these running as we watch the country disintegrate in real time?
You'd have to wait a really long time before the country actually collapses. It has been limping forward despite all this shit for years now
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They should do something badass since they're all fucked anyways, like a massive intelligence dump.
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>>74096680
Because who will you blame for your shitty economy if its not "THE BIG BAD CAPITALIST" who wants to enslave us all
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>>74094921
I wish the situation fucking fixes, our country is beign overrun with fucking Venezuelan inmigrants, they are the worse type of Inmigrants after muslims. Belive me you wouldnt want this people in your country, they are louts, ingrates, everything bad that happens to them is somehow Panama citizens fault. They hang out just with other Venezuelans, they dont try to integrate. And most important 80% of them are fraudsters and money launderers, you just have to see our news at 6pm you see they always arrest groups of Venezuelan scammers. My country is going to hell thanks to them.
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>>74097860

that sucks dude

i want to fuck your MILF VP though
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>>74097860
God I'm so fucking sick of this shit as well. My country is already shit enough, we have the niggerest country next door and now we get flooded with venezuelan criminals? I haven't met a single venezuelan who didn't dabble in something illegal, I swear to god, they all come here with boats filled with stolen oil or tons of dirty money. They even crashed a few banks and fucked our already shitty economy. Maduro can suck a big fat cock, hope he gets removed sooner rather than later.
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>>74098519
Not that dude, but I fap every night thinking of her...

and to think she isn't the MILFiest politician we got...
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>>74096680
>I really dont see why South America shouldn't cooperate with the USA desu.
You can't just "cooperate" with them. They still poison you even after you side with them.
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>>74098641
>>74097860
At least they aren't in Panama's "Pais Amigo" treaty, else we would have been overrun bu the fucking chamos already.

Chamas look pretty good thought and if Colombian girls were a headache of competition to Panamanian woman, Venezuelan girls took the game to a new level.
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Lets go to Venezuela with as much toilet paper as we can. We'll be kings. Then we'll exchange it for a nice loli. And in her 16 birthday with the consent of her parents we'll get married.
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>>74099436
I remember reading this factory owner was required to be in stock of toilet paper but there was little to be sold and it would get stolen however not cooperating would result in it being seized by the socialists
He bought a bunch of toilet paper off the black market and the police stopped him before taking a several thousand dollar bribe in order to let him go
tl;dr toilet paper is a luxury sold on black market and police are corrupt
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>>74097860
>>74098641
so Venezuela is like our Mexico

>their bringing criminals they're rapists
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>sell 1 toilet paper for 2 gorillon
>use the money as toilet paper
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>>74100687
See man, this is why I don't think mexicans ain't so bad at all, they're resourceful little fuckers. Thanks chico.
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>>74100457
>implying Venezuela isn't also our Mexico

It isn't just Mexicans that are coming to America.
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>Doctors kept ailing infants alive by pumping air into their lungs by hand for hours. By nightfall, four more newborns had died
Fuck
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We are literally eating dogs, cats and hunting birds due food scarcity
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I want to go to venezuela take 3 of the nicest 18 years old and bring them as my wifes.
I have $50k the only thing stopping me is the fear of not coming back
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>>74102196
And yet you are still using the internet?
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>>74101956
mexicans: 15 million
others: 1 million

yeah all latinos are the problem right m8?
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>>74102196
Join a militia, get ready to give the referendum teeth. We can offer you support, god knows the cia hates maduro
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>>74102343
Yes. However this internet provider is the most shitty in the whole continent.
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>>74102568
just 2mb right?
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>>74102621
yes
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>falling for mainstream jew media
Average protest for *social justice and equality.......I mean freedom.
https://youtu.be/vUtP0QfA1zc
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>>74102344
Never said problem, but yes all latinos are trying to come to America. Mexicans are all over south Cali and Texas, but Costa Ricans, Venezuelans, Columbians (I see less Columbians usually) are all over Texas too.


Point is: it isn't just a Mexico problem. It is a Latin American Government problem.
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Socialism/communism should be illegal like Nazism is
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why the fuck would you think socialism would work after seeing us collapse. Venezuela deserves everything it gets for voting for idiots that got them into this mess! sad!
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>>74097517
this

It was admitted that even Castro of Cuba had this exact same mentality.
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>>74095006
>has the country on basically a socialist dictatorshio
>says that the impeachment in Brazil backed up by the vast majority of the population is a coup

Brazil should just invade this shithole, free the people and take the oil as a freedom fee, I doubt the population woldnt want this
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>>74102765
stop talking shit
there is a million of your here too (south america as a whole)
If you have a problem with mexicans and central americans that´s fine but don´t bring us in or we kick your companies out.
Having China as a trading partner has been better for us anyway
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>>74102813
socialism isn't a problem in Venezuela, corruption it is. We have had a socialism governments since 1959
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>>74103084
>implying that socialism doesnt leads to corruption
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>>74102813
I'm with you,why the fuck are people allowed to walk around with sickle and hammer flags but not with swastikas
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>>74099289
>they
>disregarding Russia and China
>implying you're not disinformation agent of communist movement
>canada
>justin trudeau
>if you kill your enemies, they win
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>>74103164
>implying that capitaism doesn´t do the same
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>>74103084
>socialism isn't a problem in Venezuela
You never read anything about Lenin's strategy.
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>>74103284
>mplying that capitaism doesn´t do the same

Absent a huge war or something, capitalist countries seem to be able to produce toilet paper though.

Every time it's "massive scarcity / queuing up for TP / eating rats and dogs in the street" it's always pic related
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>>74103007
Get mad all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that socialism is like a plague to latin america. You should be thankful that your country isn't in as deep of shit as the rest of your neighbors.

And millions of (US) Americans in south America is business a usual. The south Americans that end up here are usually looking to resettle. That should speak volumes to the countries they hale from.
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>>74103284
>implying that capitalism has more corruption then socialism
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>>74103284
Corruption belongs of comunism's plan to take a nation. Capitalism have any.
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>>74103511
He is right thou, glad that Brazil never entered in a communist dictatorship because US backed up the right wing dictatorship.
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For his part, Chomsky has repeatedly stated that Chávez ushered a revolutionary break with Venezuela’s political past, especially regarding the social policies of the state toward the poor, echoing the foundational Chavista discourse of "Bolivarian revolution."

In an interview with Spanish newspaper Diagonal in March 2006, Chomsky declared that "for the first time, the country is using… energy resources for its development… in construction, health." Likewise, in a 2005 op-ed for Mexico’s La Jornada, he wrote "it is only now with President Chávez… [that] medicine has become something real for a majority of the poor."

Last month, speaking to Venezuelan economist Miguel Ángel Santos, Chomsky repeated his point: "For many years Venezuela was dominated by elites that… harvested all the benefits from the oil bonanzas while marginalizing the poor… Chávez came up against that."

JUST
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>>74103284

If you make it illegal to freely exchange goods, people will exchange favours instead. It was like this in the Soviet Union, you had money but nothing to buy with it, so it call came down to the connections you had. This is why corruption is the inevitable result of a socialist economy.

You cannot have corruption if you make it impossible for a government to give out special favours.
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Why hasn't the US "liberated" Venezuela yet? They have lots of oil and their civilian population would almost certainly support the US over their commie government.
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We need a wall, when does the massive horde start trampling across Mexico trying to reach the promised land?
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#TemerSaveBrazilFromSocialism
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>>74103708
God I hate that jew, worthless scum and all the numbfucks who praised because "LEL FUCK USA" makes my blood boil.
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>>74103284
Free market capitalism with small government is incorruptible.
>politicians constitutionally bound to not pass economic laws
>no lobbyists benefitting from buying corrupt puppets
>no crony bail-out
>no crooked government funding
>no hidden agendas or alliances when building government infrastructure
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>>74102196
Seriously?
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B-b-b-ut Salon told me that socialism in Venezuela worked.

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/06/hugo_chavezs_economic_miracle/
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>>74102196

Hang in there Venezuela-bro
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>>74103895
ANTIOQVIA
FEDERAL

DEUS
VULT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gngKQ48a8zQ
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>>74102765
Because there's not a future here unless you belong to the elites
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>>74094921
Mixed feelings desu. I live in the DR, getting lots of qts that will do anything for money, but we're forcasted to get like 200,000 refugees.
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>>74103945
They haven't given it a chance yet, there are growing pains and what not.
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Why are latin americans so incapable of governing themselves? Only time the countries there seem to thrive is when they have a right-wing strongman in power that throws commies out of helicopters.
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>>74104050
They're literally asking for less money than Haitians for jobs now. We have like 100,000 already.
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>>74104233
To be fair we have the fastest growth in the Americas. Us and Panama are doing alright.
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>>74103613
Hey now, I'm not denying that US Imperialism played a big part in how South America is today.

But hey, you let the jew in. Now you know better. Just don't let the Chinajew do the same.

>>74104036
Yep, very sad. My friend has been slowly moving her family over for the past 10 or so years, and they all tell the same story.
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>>74104005
kek, some nice whores there. Althought I hate the foreign worship mentality they have here. If you are blonde and tall most bitches will crawl to you. Fuck, I hate this country genepool.
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>>74104233
Because we're not supossed to have a democracy here. The right to vote was a mistake.
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>>74104233
we're not white
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>>74104233
Corruption.
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>>74103201
Jesus Brazil calm down there
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>>74104233
The elites are selfish assholes ever since Spain left
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>>74103201
S A V A G E
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>>74104233
No work ethic same reason the rest of the world sucks.
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>>74104287
How much longer until it's not politically correct to deport Haitians in your country?
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>>74104050
200,000 Venezuelan refugees? Must be crazy, considering you have a whole mess of Haitian refugees. A friend's father had a ranch in DR, when he went to visit he told me his dad had about 20 haitians working on the ranch and his grandpa was vicious towards them, I lost my shit talking to him over the phone picturing my friend and old man and beating up haitians on a ranch with a stick or whip, even though he had slightly dark features himself.

>>74104029
Some of us don't speak spic, wtf man, there aren't even cc! Don't do that mexibro.
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>>74104364
People love what is exotic.

In Germany is pretty usual to see the opposite.

Look mediterranean and get laid bruh.

Besides that shit does not fly as much in Antioqvia. If there is something paisas do not lack is self-esteem.
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>>74104393
That's not an excuse. Italy and Japan are also extremely corrupt, with organized crime being powerful social and political forces, and yet they are functioning, stable, and developed countries.
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>>74104582
Whenever the US and Europe decides we're being racist again. As of now it's going smoothly. Not seeing that much Haitians now desu.
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>>74104758
Never said it was an excuse, it's an explanation.
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>>74104881
But, as I said, other countries can be corrupt but also able to govern themselves, so "corruption" is not an explanation.

I blame nigger genes and lewd culture.
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>>74104617
Yeah. They come here with their clothes on their backs only and they still think they're better than us for some reason.

As to the Haitians, pretty much everyone hates them. I'm literally seen grafitti saying "Haitians go home"
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>>74104758
Socialism with all the fucking welfare state, gives room for the government to be mroe corrupt and steal more money.
Free Market economies (Australia,Hong Kong, Switzerland as a example) have the lowest cases of corruption, while socialism has Cuba, Venezuela and fucking North Corea.
You have to be a fucking blind ethiopian not to see the pattern.
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>>74104617
Shhh only dreams now.

You Won't Believe What We Saw In Socialist Venezuela
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOQb7Y5QVO8

Venezuela crisis: Blackouts, protests and looting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-Qrvw6Jz9c

Venezuela’s Chaos: Every day is like Insane Black Friday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isO52VeBUaQ

Venezuela's crisis worsens | DW News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsEc0EruEXw
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>>74104881
It's a shitty explanation. Here in my state its an open joke that our politics are corrupt, but things still get done.
Sure it depends on the level of corruption, but the question is what allowed for that level of corruption in the first place.
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>>74105022
Blame on the Portuguese, dont even knew how to manage their country and holded Brazil for such a long time.
I wish my family had stayed on Europe, good to know im not the only one making bad life choices
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>>74105246
FARC have literally bought the President of Colombia, when you have a guerilla group capable of buying the president of your country, then you can talk about corruption.
>my state
kek
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>>74104233
double nigger blood on both side as well as injun savage blood,just too stupid too make it in America. The whites there dominate society.
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>>74104233
>Catholics
>not white

there's your answer
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>>74105126
Thank you so much.
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>>74105433
>le right winger president who is the emboidement of oligarchy and upper class is a communist meme

jesus, hang yourself mouthbreather,
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>>74104582
We already did a cleaning wave a couple of months back, that scares them off for a few years. They'll never fully leave, though, there are rich families here that depend solely on Haitian slave labor
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>>74099317
Venezuelan girls hate Panamanians, if you somehow look foreing like me, then you have chance, they are also massive gold diggers.
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>>74104233
>One of the most powerful social norms which still guides much of life in Latin America dates back to the colonial system where it was known as “obedezco pero no cumplo,” or “I obey but I do not comply”. This was the adage used by Spanish colonial officials to refer to their attitude towards laws emanating from Spain and still characterizes many attitudes towards laws in Latin America today. Why would such a social norm emerge in Latin America and not in North America? We know of no academic study of this but one reason might have been that unlike the British crown that extracted little out of North America, the Spanish crown benefitted hugely from flows of gold and silver. Thus they were in continual conflict with local elites one who would grab and benefit from these resources. Thus colonial elites pretended to obey but tried to undermine the intent of laws from Spain.

>http://whynationsfail.com/blog/2013/10/29/what-are-institutions.html
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>>74105708
Same here. They're really stuck up.
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>>74105792
No wonder why Brazil is much better than the palces that Spain raped, jesus fucking crhist spainiards are the cancer of western civilization.
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>>74105126
Incompetent ancaps never followed up on that video.
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>>74105792
Thanks for the source Vicente. It's pretty much this. I would add the rampant inequality that breeds socialism and subversion also. And that socialism breeds dictators... It's an endless parade of shitleaders ruling until a critical mass of shit erupts and then shit implodes and repeat it until the shit end of times. Cant wait to leave this place.
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>>74105792
>let's find some reason to explain why shitskin countries are failure but not mention IQ
>I know, let's just blame it all on "extractive institutions"

It's not like opposition to what are perceived as unjust laws is exclusive to Latin America.
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>>74098641
>we have the niggerest country next door
come on, we're like half continent away
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>>74106055
>when your country heads to a collapse, political and economical and yet you are wasting money you dont have in a olympics game.

You are only slightly better because of the amoun of land that you have and white settlers. Any country with that amount of land will be somewhat sucessfull unless is run by niggers.
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>>74105792
That.... actually describes the filthy cucarachas here perfectly. They often don't do anything overtly wrong to your face but you can tell their is a resentment under the surface.
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Thanks OP I've been hoping for a venezuela general for a while now
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>>74106801
The fucking south and southeast is what keeps this fucking excuse of a democracy going, every 100 reals that Sao Paulo gives to the government it just gets 6 reals back, this shit makes my blood boil..
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>>74103084
>socialism isn't a problem in Venezuela
It is thou
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>>74095728
Columbia should invade desu
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>>74097380
It's low-key habbening all the time senpai
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>US Intelligence spends decades toppling leftist governments in Latin America
>told to fuck off
>Latin America elects socialists
>it fails
you only had to listen
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>>74106553
>Everything I know I learned from /pol/ memes
consider killing yourself
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Exiled Venezuelan here. Please, fuck me up senpai
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Our new Foreign Minister has already btfo Maduro. Looking good!
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>>74097860
Every single time I've tried to integrate with Panamanians they end up fucking me off. You're right about the money laundering, but my family came here working hard as fuck and even though we're not doing great, we're staying here trying to get ahead. Most people nowadays come to work at cafes or shit like that to pay for college, and believe me. Most of us want to see money laundering cunts from our own country imprisoned. And dude, it's not just Venezuelans laundering money. Literally every country in the world launders money in Panama

Don't talk to me about intolerance when you people have an isolated culture that doesn't accept other hispanics. You treat us like niggers way too often, and you can't deny that shit
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>>74103084
Feel the Maduro!!!
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>>74102695
Buenos días señor guerrilla. Cuánto le pagaron por este post?
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>>74104233

We have forced voting + an average IQ of about 85. It will always be shit that way. If voting were voluntary we could have maybe a chance to elect governments that at least tried to be responsible.
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>>74097380

if anyone has some streams pls post them

i havent found any but im not really looking either
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>>74096366
>desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60mLvBWOMb4
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Lit "Atlas shrugged: The country"
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>>74105058
Slavery is still legal in your country?
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>>74102277
>have $50k the only thing stopping me is the fear of not coming back
Do it Peru!
D o - I t
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>>74102277
I belive in you Peru
Dont let your dreams be dreams
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>>74107299
>spoot the paulista
Thas how countries work my friend, they take money from more developed areas to invest in the underveloped ones.stop complainig and keep paying your taxs
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>run your corrupt leftist police state down the shitter
>f-fucking americanos!

I need that comic of the guy shoving a stick through his bicycle wheel
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Late to the party, is this essentially a parallel to what's going on in Brazil, Commies getting btfo?
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>>74105246
>level of corruption
Well we in the US have a lot of checks and balances. Your police department fucks up bad and the FBI is going to do a raid. City can't manage their finances then the State takes over. All this infrastructure adds up to increase stability and decrease corruption.
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>>74100833
Sure man, not all of us are fuckers neither we think you as our enemy even thought I like to provoke those who only see the bad side of our fuck up society and country. Take this comment from a guy who's traveled into the US since always -I live in the border with California and have visa as all middle class does here. Have a good day.
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The oposición is just plain dumb, they have to take RADICAL actions to get this fucker out but is like a fag fighting against the mountain from GOT.

The only way i see this goverment out is that some country take action and remove him.

>>74102196
mmm... dude for real say the things as they are.

We have food (cow meat, chicken meat, pig meat, fish) but the price is too damn high.

Rice, spaghetti, corn Flour, toilet paper, soap, toothpaste, deodorant, etc. is very fucking hard to find (you can buy it in the black market for alot of money)
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>>74109003

and then If i decide to say "Pinochet was right" people will call me facho ( facist fucker ), act offended and try yo ruin my life.

Venezuela is a good example of what would've happened if Pinocho didn't shoot the reds out of Chile even if it only lasted for a few years
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>>74114959
But Pinochet was the ONLY latin dictator that did right wing dicatatorship right
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>>74094921

I can see where this is going.
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>>74115047

I know that he wasn't the only one , Jesus it was just a comment based on the similarities between Venezula and Chile in terms of economy during the 70's and 80's , we both sell natural resources be it oil or copper
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Another toppled government, im proud of you America :3
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>>74115373
It's for the best, You Are Gay
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>>74115616
For the best of America.
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>>74115739
What else matters?
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>>74113672
Much worse, but the same cause with cheap oil and more gov expenses
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>>74109003
Yeah, because an inevitable reaction to an imperialist power trying to force a particular ideology on them is to go too far the other way.
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>>74113879
>The only way i see this goverment out is that some country take action and remove him.
This is what america has been doing for years now, first they killed Chavez and now have created unrest to the boiling point that they are now.
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>>74115862
They learn that socialism is bad one way or another
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>>74115933
Yeah, its bad because it takes money from the kikes that you support, just look at your education and health, you are the richest country on earth and have the worst public system.
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>>74115862

I was that or being taken by Russia or China and turning into their south american commie enclave

I'd take the murica intervention option any day
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>>74113879
>toilet paper
What do you use then?
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>>74115373
We didn't even have to do anything this time, it just collapsed all on its own
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>>74116069
>worst public system.
Yes, but the best private system.
>Get cancer then a US research hospital with clinical trials is your best bet
>Want a good education then a US university
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Civil War when?
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We are going to make it bros, r-right?
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>>74116296
>it just collapsed all on its own
You know they will never believe that.
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>embrace socialism
>country goes to shit
>blame capitalists

every time
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>>74094921
have they run out of shit to fuck up yet?
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>>74096680
>I really dont see why South America shouldn't cooperate with the USA desu.

because USA does not care about the best interests of south america. cooperation, who the fuck are they, latam's dad? south america should keep looking for its own best interests as leftist proposed, excpet without the cancerous leftism
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>>74116346

That's why so many retards are saying "MUH CIA SHILLING" at times when we get another protest or strike.

>>74116340

YES, YOU GUYS STARTED THE FIRE
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>>74116316

Ahora mismo , en mayo

http://www.cinemark.cl/movies/capitan-america-civil-war
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>>74116296
Sure thing m8 ;)

>>74116346
Yeah, is unthinkable america toppling government with secret methods right? its not like there are documents proving it or anything.... oh wait....
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>>74116316
Refugees sailing to the Dominican Republic, mostly to Santo Domingo, Santiago, and a City of Juan Bosch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGujF9dVquI), when?
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>>74116531

You get me there
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>>74116298
None of what you said is accurate, this is not the 90's anymore.

Your universities are garbage that function solely to make money.
Europe is miles ahead in public health, if you get cancer in US you will be paying for it for the rest of your life.
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This collapse is actually pretty interesting.
Shows you that the biggest worry in a situation like this is mass starvation. Plus lack of medical care.
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>>74116590

In Chile, many people thanks CIA for bringing us based Pinochet senpai
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>>74116757
I wonder if /k/ is watching how shit hits the fan for future reference
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>>74116730

everyone comes here for cancer treatment you dunderpate
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http://www.salon.com/2013/03/06/hugo_chavezs_economic_miracle/
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-the-lies-being-told-about-hugo-chavez-427990.html
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/09/chavez-victory-beyond-latin-america

more like these
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>>74103859
>someone is using my OC
You are the best, oldest ally.
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>>74116757

Also the lack of support from neighboring countries
when the Earthquakes/Tsunamis hit Japan some years ago they received support from countries like mine, but now that something like this happens to a south american bro nothing happens , nobody moves
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Check out this FREE healthcare, guys!

>“I doubt that anywhere in the world, except in Cuba, there exists a better health system than this one,” Mr. Maduro said.

>“It is like something from the 19th century,” said Dr. Christian Pino, a surgeon at the hospital.

>"The death of a baby is our daily bread,” said Dr. Osleidy Camejo, a surgeon in the nation’s capital, Caracas

>“Some come here healthy, and they leave dead,” Dr. Leandro Pérez said

>“This is criminal that we can sit in a country with this much oil, and people are dying for lack of antibiotics,” says Oneida Guaipe, a lawmaker and former hospital union leader.

>The day had begun with the usual hazards: chronic shortages of antibiotics, intravenous solutions, even food. Then a blackout swept over the city, shutting down the respirators in the maternity ward.

>Gloves and soap have vanished from some hospitals. Often, cancer medicines are often found only on the black market.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/16/world/americas/dying-infants-and-no-medicine-inside-venezuelas-failing-hospitals.html
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>>74113879


how can i make money out of venezuelan misery? could i smuggle products into venezuela for sale
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>>74116813
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>>74117038
Why don't they use rain water to clean up the blood?
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>>74115373
pay debts greecy greek
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>>74116875
Sure thing m8, i bet people love to get 250k in debt for attempting not to die instead of getting it almost free in most of europe.
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>>74117038

sad! venezuela had the worlds best health care early 20th century, or so ive been told
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>>74116877
>make money from oil being a gorillian dollars per barrel
>IT'S AN ECONOMIC MIRACLE, SOCIALISM WORKS
>oil becomes dirt cheap due to overproduction
>FUCKING CAPITALISTS
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>>74117135

also from the article:

>At the University of the Andes Hospital in the mountain city of Mérida, there was not enough water to wash blood from the operating table. Doctors preparing for surgery cleaned their hands with bottles of seltzer water.
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>>74117038

Even my regional hospital is better, holy shit
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>>74117247

Jesus christ,
that's terrible
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>>74117247
I know I read it, but it still doesn't explain why they didn't clean the blood with rain water.
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>>74116877
This really reinforces the point that socialism works until they run out of other people's money

Now we realize that most of that social spending didn't build anything for the long term and they didn't save when they had the opportunity
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Is this a good time to bring Gringo Dollars to Venezuela and do some sex tourism?

I'm asking for a friend.
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>>74117370
because they a lazy fucks...
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>>74117038
>“I doubt that anywhere in the world, except in Cuba, there exists a better health system than this one,” Mr. Maduro said.

Jesus fucking Christ, the delusion of these "people"
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>>74117370

because they ran out of rain too
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>>74117247

There's a biggets dry in Venezuela right now, even the nature mother is against commies m8
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>>74117469
No, you'll be robbed and killed. Venezuela has one of the highest murder rates in the world, and as the political crisis gets worse it will only increase.
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>>74117038

can't make this shit up
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>>74117509
>because they ran out of rain too
Damn socialism!
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>>74117585
Maybe I should bring antibiotics and look for sick qt3.14s in the hospital? :^)
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>>74117491
the world for them if they say a bad thing about the government is going to be a lonely ditch
>>74117509
top kek
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>>74117606
This lady needed kidney dialysis. Machine was broken. So ladies feet turned black and she developed a blood infection (sepsis). She was going to die, but they might have cut off her feet first.
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>>74117469

no , you (or your friend) would get Chagas and die in a horrible way some years from now,

If you dont know what Chagas is let me tell you ; one of those terrible but totally eradicable diseases that only exist because they are endemic to the poorest parts of south america
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>>74117679

I would rather go to do that in Damascus or Latakia dude
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>>74117679

post venezuelan qts
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>>74117750
Really?
Very interesting.

A friend of mine has family in Chile, says it's bad ass.

I dunno, Venezuela has some hot miss universe contestants, might be worth the risk.
>>74117877
thank god someone who gets it!
>>74117754
i'm a burger, mind dumbing that down for me? gracias
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>>74117038
this place is nightmare fuel
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>>74118036
srsly doe

yes. yes it is. fuck.
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>>74118068
I'd rather take my chances at the hospital in Silent Hill
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>>74117955

The bug that carries it can't live in our hot-desert, cold-windy weather.
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>>74117469
At this point there's probably a 60% chance of you getting robbed and/or killed as a tourist in Venezuela.
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>>74117469
It would be kind of easy for you to marry a venezuelan woman and give her a green card though
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>>74117877
>Jungle monkeys
>qt
enjoy your zikadengueaids
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>>74099180
Isabel is cute! CUTE!
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>>74118164
at least you wouldn't die covered in roaches or something fuck
>>74118165
Jesus Christo its a disease carried by some fucking bug?!? gross
>>74118174
so you're saying Argentina is the safer bet?
>>74118236
I'm firing up the dating sites now! Or should I get a columbian? I have some friends from there that look white to me.
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Can Zika save Venezuela?
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>>74118398
Argentina is a much safer bet. It's not run by socialist retards anymore. Chile is the best country in South America, though.
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>>74117210

So did Cuba, supposedly. Chavez literally gave his life to prove it.
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>>74118412
ask Bill Gates. That Zika thing is from those Genetically Modified mosquitos he brewed up for the kikes
>>74118476
I should go to Chile. I hear good things about it from a lot of people. Argentina is pretty bad I heard. If Venezuela is worse...jeez. I wonder who could be behind stealing all the wealth of the nation?
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>>74118398
I don't know, I prefer Colombians but obviously I'm biased
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>>74118398

not exactly , the bug ( know as Vinchuca) lives in dirty beds and pillows , it feeds on blood during night, then it starts shitting , the parasitic worm that lives in the shit carves its way into the skin and starts living inside the human , then nothing happens for a few years
Then , the damage dealt at the electric parts of the hearth ( that the worms feeds on) becomes too much and kids randomly die of heart attacks

And yes , Argentina is much safer bet and the country has some beautiful places
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>>74118398
>so you're saying Argentina is the safer bet?
One of youtube vids posted in this thread said that right after they left the airport a guy was robbed and killed at that same airport! So, yes don't go!
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Maduro has a Saddam vibe about him.

He could invade and occupy Guyana just to deflect from his own failings at home and to secure more resources, as well as whipping up populist support. War is always a go to for despots on the brink.

He wouldn't attack Columbia as they are too close to the US and Brazil would easily steamroll the Venezuelan military so Guyana is the only nearby country realistically he could take over.

Then again, it's simply more likely he'll be overthrown and then a civil war between his far-left loyalists and the new right-wing government will ensue.
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>>74118674
I'm a burger that never leaves the house , so I can only judge based on porn and movies. Not that the US is degenerate :^)
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>>74118793
I would go with a Colombian from the center of the country (not a paisa, she will take advantage of you)
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>>74118778
for the love of Christ third world countries are disgusting....just fuck why can't I live in uncle Adolfs Germany and keep borders in tact.....fucking sick...thanks for the visual, anon :^)
>>74118781
wow...that doesn't sound so hot....come think of it I've seen an anon from there post and he said police would steal your shit if you got food from somewhere, stuff like that
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>>74118791
>Then again, it's simply more likely he'll be overthrown and then a civil war between his far-left loyalists and the new right-wing government will ensue.

His soldiers are starving and stealing goats. He can't go to war like that.

>>74118793
>I'm a burger that never leaves the house
Me too. Why would you ever leave? Just buy an oculus next year when they get gamez!
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>>74094921
Why doesn't Colombia invade Venezuela? This shit is sad
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Russia general. Sanctions on state oil the thread
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yeah, it's pretty shit here

haven't had a glass of milk in like, 6 months now.
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>>74119150
We can't even manage our own country properly
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>>74119212
What did you eat this weekend?
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>>74119264
Embargoes
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>>74119150
Invade for what?
Just let them kill each other or die
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>>74119150
It's best to leave the socialists to die a slow death than mercy kill them.
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>>74118985
Thanks for the advice, anon. Funny thing is my Columbian friend married a religious gringa here, of all things. She's a nice girl, but I'd still take a grill from Columbia anyday.

>>74119073
oh shit, nigga, have you seen the new HTC rig?!? the little bit that I've seen looked really cool. Sure, the games aren't there yet, but it looks like a really good start.
> I heard VR porn is the killer app
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>>74119275
Let's do a Uruguay general
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>>74119212

Wish I could share my fridge with you :/

Magic internet portal guns when ?
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>Soon Venezuela will be a rare flag
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>>74119212
If I threw a BBQ there and invited a bunch of pretty grills would :
a) they'd show up and we'd have an orgy on the floor, g
b) frito banditos would shoot me dead and steal muh burgers
c) I'd meet a nice grill and find a nice stay at home wife
?
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>>74119324
that's really sweet, anon, no jokes.
I ve helped out a bunch of anons in my time here. 4chan brings out the best(and worst) in people but I guarantee if it were possible we'd help out lots of people in need.
>and get scammed too but whatevs
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>>74119307
>HTC rig?!? the little bit that I've seen looked really cool
Don't watch the Giant Bomb VR reviews on the rift and vive. It will totally kill your VR love.
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>>74102196
Stay strong friend. I've got family there and I know what is happening. Take Maduro down and kill him with all his motorizados.
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tl;dr the situation for me pls
been out of the loop
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>>74119212

hey Venezuelanon. hope you are holding out okay

do you have any livestreams of shit going down you can share with us?

I'm also looking for state-run commie sources to see how they are spinning events as well as independent media from Venezuela

or at least some pics of Venezuelan qts you can share

i'm also looking for some people interesting in OPing these threads on a regular or semi regular basis (as long as they dont turn it into a socialist circle jerk) cause I'm lazy and not very good at it either
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>>74119607
>googled Giant Bomb Vive review
>first result:
>"VR with gamepad is fucked up"
>probably not a paid reviewer
yeah the tech isn't 100% there, but it gets better every day...one day, anon...one day..
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>>74119264
Vegetable Lasagna and Pigeon-sized roasted chicken

My family is not exactly well off, but we can get the more expensive products. No lines there.

>>74119443
>c) I'd meet a nice grill and find a nice stay at home wife
Most girls here are HUGE FUCKING SLUTS to anyone not brown. However, NONE of them are "stay at home" wives. They are latino, meaning they are bitchy by nature.
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>>74119212
Why aren't you removing Maduro?
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>>74102695
>qt girl at 3:30
hands off my waifu
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>>74119212
shit dude, come live here we have dairy out the ass and they wont turn you away.
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>>74119901
>They are latino, meaning they are bitchy by nature.
These are interesting insights. Are they bitchy just to test you if you're going to put them back in their place? I feel like they would and then fuck you silly.

Still, nothing is worse than the poisoned mind of a western woman, anon.
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>>74119891
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OknS2wfHi9E
You were warned!
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>>74119983
Is Argentina safer than Venzuela? I 've seen a lot of racist "white" girls there that were really pretty.
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>>74119983
>we have dairy out the ass
So does every country that works.
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>>74119923
>girl
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>>74120273
Yes, in every way
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>>74120273

much safer and whiter
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>>74120145
yes, you warned me! I'm checking it out now. I'm sure the games are ....not great....but at least there are games and it's a functional system....it's definitely just a beginning...who knows if they can make decent games with it before the next console comes out that works better
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>>74120428
>Yes, in every way
I don't know about that. Argentina guy was popular on the prepper forums because of advice on how to deal with shtf.
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>>74120412
would dress her up like pocahontas and proceed to berry
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>>74120145
this geometry wars type game looks like the best I've seen so far. I'm hoping some other developers are working on releasing some for this thing.
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>>74120558
Fuck you she is mine, i am closer to her
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Do not fool yourselves. Brazilian military has been undermined and underfunded for decades. We cannot hold a struggle against Uruguay for half an hour.
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