>Hillary believes this is controversial to say
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/731107990514880512
What's your point Hillary?
>>73882623
>>73882668
It's a subjective thing. What defines a "good job"? Trump is being ambiguous, as always.
For women it's offensive, because women never take statements at face value. They always think someone means something else, because that's how they communicate
So here, the women think Trump is implying that women are currently doing a shit job, which might be true, but of course it's a very blanket statement that needs facts to back it up.
Truth is, Trump was responding to someone that asked about the pay they'd get if they worked for his company to which he responded with "yeah if you do a good job, you'll get a good pay", there's nothing behind the statement at all.
Ah fuck it, why even bother going in depth.
Can't stump the Trump and all that
>>73882623
what the fuck?
how can you possibly disagree with that?
dumb bitch
>>73882623
>You're gonna make the same if you do as good a job
That's actually not true. Employers often leave it up to their employees to ask for more pay instead of just giving it to the people who deserve it. And men are more likely to ask for it.
If women want equal pay, then LITERALLY all they have to do is ask. Not whine and moan to Obama and Bernie, who have both cited the absolute bullshit 77 cents misinformation. Just fucking ask (or tell) their employer.
There are no reasonable solutions the government can give us. They'd have to ban asking for raises, or demand that every time a man gets a raise, a woman gets an equal raise regardless of whether she deserves it or not and vice versa.
>>73882749
Yes, that's why I am a #Cruzmissile, supporting a True Conservative who has clear and precise policy positions and never wavers in his commitment to conservative values and defense of Our Greatest Ally
So now her tactic is to just repeat good things Trump says?
Reminds me of the congressional hearings where she just smiled condescendingly and changed her story every 2 minutes.
>>73882887
good post
>>73882963
>Women are less likely to ask for shit they didn't earn.
In what fucking world?
>>73882623
>you will make the same if you do as good a job.
This is triggering to shilllary. From her perspective, women have always been discriminated against. Women have always been denied equal pay. This is a fact she's going in with.
Trump says "you will make equal if you do as good a job"
To shillary, that's basically saying trump believes women aren't doing good work and won't get equal pay until they do.
She's taken aback
>>73883076
In the business world many feel too intimidated to challenge authority by asking for higher pay
>>73882623
What an outrageous statement!
I guess she's implying he implied women don't do as good job as men, but then why would he hire women?
>>73882623
>wants equal pay
>gets equal pay
>still insists that they're not getting equal pay
>>73882623
If this is Hillary on the offensive Trump might actually win.
Good fucking god how tepid.
>>73883076
kek
Isn't the fact that Hillary finds this offensive kind of implying Hillary is saying she won't do as good of a job? Her marketing people are terrible and if she wasn't a woman she would be Jeb-tier at best.
>>73882963
You're wrong. All things being equal, single unmarried women in the work force make sometimes up to 8% more than men.
http://content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/apr/09/genevieve-wood/what-pay-gap-young-women-out-earn-men-cities-gop-p/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/02/24/childless-women-in-their-twenties-out-earn-men-so/#5185cfc86bb0
>>73882623
Women make exactly the same as men, when doing the same job. There is no difference at all.
>>73882623
>I HAVE TO WORK AS HARD AS A MAN?!
they're not even hiding it anymore
>Say something completely logical that makes sense
>Hillary pretends its off the charts fucking crazy.
Is she retarded, or just desperate guys?
>>73883345
She's intelligent. She knows the left are too dumb to do the 3 minute google search it takes to disprove the "wage gap", so she'll use it to appeal to emotion and garner votes.
>>73883076
You've got that the other way around. A woman is less likely to ask for shit she DID earn than a man is to ask for shit he earned. More men get raises or higher starting pay (by virtue of just manning up and asking for it) and, as a result of this, men make slightly more on average than women in the same line of work.
>Women confusing earnings and wages again
I hate everything
>>73882985
fairly uncommon
Scrolling down Shillary's twitter... almost every tweet is about Trump. It's actually hilarious how desperate she is
>>73882623
He pays his female executives a ton, she pays them 62% of their male counterparts
Yeah whoever's managing her account is a Trump supporter
>>73882887
The fact is that most women do not find it offensive either, and she doesnt need to pander to women because they're allready overwhelmingly in favour of socialism.
The whole "women card" feminism bullshit is actualy a really fucking retarded play from the left because they allready lead women votes by 2:1 even before it, and all it does is alienate men.
The left would actually had been better off politicly without third way feminism, preaching its universal diversity gospel straight up instead of involving feminism into the mix.
>>73882623
Hillary's "I'm le first woman president and I'm a champion of women's rights :DDD" shitick is going to bite her in the ass.
It's so fucking fake. She's been in the political spotlight for decades, and she thinks a year before elections that she can just reinvent herself and put out this image of being the next susan b. anthony?
this statement shows a misunderstanding of the wage gap concept- nobody has said women get paid less in the same position as men, the problem is that women are rused into lower paying positions socially, or denied good positions
>>73883410
Yeah, sure. Sure they do. Every statistic says otherwise, but sure.
>>73882623
>mfw when literally every repsonse is an anti shillary one
>>73882623
I would disagree with Trump's statement. Much of pay depends on things that don't have to do with doing a good job. I also believe that if you focus too much on doing a good job, then you aren't spending enough time trying to get paid for doing nothing.
However, thisdoesn't have to do with your gender.
I think the gender paygap is down mostly to different genders valuing different aspects of their lives differently.
More women value their homelife more than their jobs. Sure some are the opposite, but in general women are more likely to value their family over their work.
It makes sense that women, being sure all their children are their own, and having intrinsic value ( to their spouses ) would not feel so driven to acquire value as earners.
Sure, maybe this tendency ruins the name of women as potential workers, and influences the way opportunities are allocated, but if it is not due to a valid reason, woman will be able to overcome the perception as a group on their own.
>>73883613
>Every statistic says otherwise
https://www.med.upenn.edu/gastro/documents/WhogoestothebargainingtableTheinfluenceofgenderandframingontheinitiationofnegotiation..pdf
http://www.ne.su.se/polopoly_fs/1.99257.1346412310!/menu/standard/file/anna_sandberg.pdf
And it's not even just money, some women got upset they were stuck being teachers' assistants when the men went on to be teachers, and blamed it on the patriarchy. It turned out the whole time it was because the men were asking for those jobs and the women generally weren't
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/29/AR2007072900827.html
Basically, women expect people to be able to read their minds and know what they want without having to say it. It's the same attitude they take into relationships.
>>73883603
>the problem is that women are rused into lower paying positions socially
No. They land lower paying positions because they bitch, whine, moan and complain about objective falsehoods.
>>73883603
>nobody has said women get paid less in the same position as men
that's literally what they say
>>73883640
Damn, Trump's "internet people" really did a fucking number on that one.
Hillarious.
>>73883603
>Rused into lower paying positions socially
Because of the patriarchy right. . .
>>73882623
If you work as hard, you get paid the same? seems like very sound advice to me.
>>73883603
You mean to say, women ruse themselves by picking useless majors in college. Women are more likely to get into jobs like child care, nursing, etc, in which these jobs pay less compared too jobs llile mechanic engineering, computer coding, nuero science, etc.
If you're saying women apply for high paying jobs, submits her resume, but the manager then offers her a janitorial job instead, them you're an idiot.
Explain the ruse you speak of and why its so effective on women
>>73883841
actually, they don't moan or whine about their pay as that study above shows because of a spooky culture of corporate obedience
>>73883640
>mfw when
>my face when when
>>73883816
>Basically, women expect people to be able to read their minds and know what they want without having to say it. It's the same attitude they take into relationships
Dear God This! This is exactly right!
>>73882623
>friend of woman BTFO
>>73883816
>https://www.med.upenn.edu/gastro/documents/WhogoestothebargainingtableTheinfluenceofgenderandframingontheinitiationofnegotiation..pdf
>First paragraph, "Using a new experimental paradigm (undefined at that)..."
>http://www.ne.su.se/polopoly_fs/1.99257.1346412310!/menu/standard/file/anna_sandberg.pdf
>"Women earn less than men all over the world." Shit's bias right from the FIRST SENTENCE. And guess what? Both the author's are fucking women. FROM SWEDEN.
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/29/AR2007072900827.html
>"Women working full time earn about 77 percent of the salaries of men working full time, Babcock said."
You expect me to believe THIS source when they have THIS DEBUNKED SHIT in it?
Jesus man... At least read the shit you copy-paste. I didn't even have to go passed the first paragraph of each to find fundamental flaws.
>>73882623
>Trump thinks people should get paid based on their work!
>He's not offering womyn a "vagina bonus"!!
Tipity top kek. She's helping him
>>73882887
Dit neger is spreken de waarheid. (kanker) kristal helder.
MAGA/MEGA - Trump & Wilders
>>73882965
Damn canada your really stepping your shitposting game up
Watch out emufuckers you have competition now.
>>73884103
To follow up, here's one of the, """""experiments."""""
>In one early study, Babcock brought 74 volunteers into a laboratory to play a word game called Boggle.
>>73883603
>nobody has said that
Bullshit. Whenever the wage gap is mentioned, these bitches literally believe that if a man is being paid 20 dollars per hour, she's only making 16 per hour for the same job.
They think there's a vast conspiracy against women where they're always paid less
Trump will make women great again, possibly better than before.
>>73884036
hurr what is a typo
calm down
>>73882887
a++ explanation right there.
You should make the same no matter what job you do and how well you do it.
Trump is a fascist. Or Hitler. Or a commie. One of those bad ones.
>>73882623
God forbid women should have to put in equal work to get equal pay. I work in a warehouse and do a hell of a lot more work than the women, all of whom are put into easy positions because they just don't have the same output as men. They get paid as much as I do, and it's ridiculous.
>>73883841
They are whining about it in the political space rather than the workplace. Basically, they are crying to daddy because that is arena where they enjoy the greatest leverage over men.
They're not even willing to prove they deserve more to their own employers, because they don't even need to make a case for daddy to be convinced. Just cry harder.
>>73883076
Kekkers.
Women in a corporate setting are actually not very confident, it's harder to manipulate people individually and you have to be able to prove what you are saying.
You have no way of forcing the other persons hand with emotional arguments or threats.
>>73884103
It's me again, I kept reading, because fuck you, bullshit poster.
From the studies...
We find that men are more prone than women to initiate a negotiation, which is in line with
our first hypothesis. However, the gender difference in the study by Small et al. (2007) is
three times as large as in our study. We speculate that this may be due to differences in culture
and gender norms between Sweden and the United States. Also, in contradiction to our second
hypothesis and the results of Bowles, Babcock, and Lai (2007), we find that the gender
difference in the propensity to initiate a negotiation is statistically significant when the
negotiation counterpart is a female, but not when the negotiation counterpart is a male. The
fact that our results differ from those of Bowles, Babcock, and Lai (2007) might be due to
differences in experimental design. We conclude that more research is needed regarding
situational factors influencing how the gender composition of the negotiation dyad affects
gender differences in initiation of negotiation
I'm starting to think that Hillary is a plant for Trump. Anyone else? Nobody can unironically be this shit of a candidate by accident.
>>73883390
This, people in general don't want to spend time gathering the truth - if you're a woman and this fits your narrative why would you?
>>73884330
Or she had another stroke.
>>73884301
So women in the workplace are less confident? Maybe that is what all these feminists should look at, to be honest. Workplaces tend to be more macho and man dominated, so this makes sense. Feminists will argue, then, that women 'feel oppressed' in the workplace or some shit.
But I agree with Trump on this one. In fact what he said was basically the definition of equality, and Hillary doesn't apparently like it.
>>73884103
Then how about a study from the US Department of Labor?
https://www.shrm.org/Advocacy/Issues/CivilRights/Documents/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf
It debunks the 77 cents bullshit after accounting for shit like majors, grades, hours worked, age, region etc.
But it doesn't entirely debunk the wage gap. It just cuts it down from 23% to around 6%.
If women do a better job and you can pay them less why do people hire men?
>>73882623
>all the replies are about how the Clinton Foundation pays men higher than women on average
>>73882887
>For women it's offensive, because women never take statements at face value.
this so much...
>>73884418
Oh no! Not 6% I mean, that's just statistically irrelevant!
>>73884407
>tfw just fapped, ate a hot pocked with ranch dressing, playing some videogames, browsing 4chan on the side and smoking myself to death
>harm I've done to anyone: 0
>harm niggers do to people: ∞
Yeah no.
>>73882623
it's so obvious Trump is baiting her it's hilarious
now she will literally be muh woman card, but I'm a woman reeeeee, penis taxes now, etc. until the election
normal people will get sick of that shit
>>73884418
Also, I bet if I read through THAT study I'm going to find some pretty vital flaws there, too.
>>73884060
For some reason I want to fuck her
>>73882985
AT THIS POINT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!!!!
>>73884620
me too ameribro
>>73882623
It's already illegal to discriminate against women and pay them less.
>>73884559
Oh, wait, I did. I just skipped to the summary at the end...
As a result, it is not possible now, and doubtless will never be possible, to determine reliably whether
any portion of the observed gender wage gap is not attributable to factors that compensate women and
men differently on socially acceptable bases, and hence can confidently be attributed to overt
discrimination against women.
>>73884509
I bet if I post
http://www.monster.com/career-advice/article/women-salaries-equal-outearn-men
then differences of 6% and under suddenly becomes relevant
>>73884060
Every time I see this I'm reminded of that goofy ass fat cat people used to post all the time
>>73884791
>If I keep randomly copy-pasting studies I've never read eventually I'll get one!
You're batting 0/4 right now. You sure you want to do this one, too?
>>73884407
Try harder Australia
>>73882749
Trump’s implying men do better work than women, which could be an average overall work statistic from his companies. If the men of Trump’s organisations are actively setting the bar for what constitutes good work, then women should at the very least aspire to that level of expectation. But if they don’t then they should be paid less.
I can’t imagine Trump employs any waste in his workplace. I reckon the men and women of Trump’s organisation work equally as hard and get paid equally as much–with exception to those who negotiated their salaries. I think Trump was blindly retorting to the ‘MUH 72CENTS’ meme with something more impactful and neutral.
>>73884518
eeew
you sure did me some harm alright
also you have a moral obligation not to harm yourself and you sure failed to perform it
>>73882623
All those redpilled comments
>>73884877
>Trump’s implying men do better work than women, which could be an average overall work statistic from his companies.
Or, amazingly, men do a better job.
>>73882623
Ahahahhahahahahha
Holy shit if she wins the dumb america stigma is proven as real
>>73884858
That's not actually a study
>>73883603
>the problem is that women are rused into lower paying positions socially, or denied good positions
OR MAYBE THEY VOLUNTARILY SEEK THOSE POSITIONS OUT OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE.
Why the fuck does every situation have to involve a victim and an oppressor? The outcomes are maybe negative, but the fact that they're a result of individual agency is positive. If these are the choices that women are voluntarily making, then there's nothing we can do to curb the outcomes that isn't inequitable.
>>73882887
>Truth is, Trump was responding to someone that asked about the pay they'd get if they worked for his company to which he responded with "yeah if you do a good job, you'll get a good pay", there's nothing behind the statement at all.
So its just the media kiles spinning thus to make Trump look like he was lambasting women for not doing a good job.
Fucking jews.
>>73882623
Wasn't there an article stating tat Hillary actually pays her female staff 30% less than her male staff ?
>>73882623
>Women should be able to do unsatisfactory work for the same pay as men who work harder.
>>73882623
WHAT THE FUCK!!!
SHE JUST ADVERTISED TRUMP!?!?
>>73882887
>which might be true
statistically it is true. That's why women in the US earn 79% of men. Because women work less hours, work easier jobs, etc. They get paid less for doing less work. Trump doesn't see any problem with this, because women should do equal work if they want equal pay. But Hillary thinks it's sexist because she thinks women deserve equal pay even if they don't do equal work.
>>73882963
Even before getting into negotiations, etc, just accounting for some factors like hours worked and field, women make 95% of what men do. Part of that 5% is negotiations, but most of the gap is just women not wanting to work as hard as men do
>>73884964
I know it isn't. I just scrolled through it.
>>73885024
>That's why women in the US earn 79% of men.
Except they don't. Even accounting for the hours. Studies are already posted ITT proving otherwise.
>>73882623
I hate this bitch more and more. It's a non-issue.
He might as well be saying "You're gonna make EQUAL if you do AN EQUAL job." - Donald Trump on women and equal pay
Seriously, who can't fucking comprehend what he's saying (besides Hillary)?
>>73884994
>he believes in free will
so sorry for you
consider that no choice can ever be made without outside influence, in the case of a job choice this is even more obvious since women are bombarded with "muh family muh kids muh nursing" memes since childhood
>>73884418
Then it is just wage negotiation at that minuscule point.
>your growing depression when Shillary shits out a new whopper three times a week that liberals nod and agree with when just 20 years ago any one of these statements would have ended her political career for being fucking insane
>>73884927
Fucking hell she's getting torn apart
>>73885024
or it's what >>73884509 said and 5% isn't even worth fretting over. It's still taking an average of every single job ever, it's just weighting that against certain factors. It's still too general a statement the the discrepancy isn't even that large.
>>73882749
>>73884877
That statement was in response to some dumb bitch asking if she would get paid the same amount as a man.
>>73882623
>mfw hillary accidentally shilled for trump
>>73885148
She's like that senile hippy grandma you just blankly stare at until she remembers what she just said.
What did it mean by this?
>>73883640
Kek
>>73882749
Aussie first one to troll as always...
>>73885131
>women are bombarded with "muh family muh kids muh nursing" memes since childhood
Or maybe it's worse than that and they're born with it and culture has zero to do with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiJVJ5QRRUE
But again, they're still making those choices voluntarily. Unless you were to usurp their will and force them to take higher paying positions you won't get the outcome you want. Any proposals to "fix this problem" are going to involve paying people more money for less valuable work, or forcing people to do things involuntarily.
>>73885024
Have a graph
>>73885158
Fact of the matter is trying to "correct" a 6% difference (if it's even that much) isn't even a practical or reasonable thing to try.
Fact of the matter is there's always going to be a difference and it's going to fluctuate. But feminists won't be happy unless they get "equal to or greater than" every time.
And that shit is 100% fucked up. Which is EXACTLY why I'm pissed.
>>73882965
Little late to the party, aren'tcha?
>>73882623
>Muh love & tolerance campaign
>All she does is attack Trump through ads funded by Saudi prince money & posting out of context quotes
>>73885131
Who is bombarding them? No one is fucking bombarding them. Even the fucking JEWS don't bombard them with what you just described.
I'm a left leaning voter who thinks Trump is a populist and even I don't think there is anything wrong with what he said.
>>73884854
?
>>73882623
Doesn't't Hillary pay her female workers less than men too? Just curious.
>>73885314
or maybe we could try and stop the essentialist mindset from dominating discourse and start viewing people as simply people?
>>73885232
The pay is based on how good of a job you do. This is irrespective of gender. A shit job = shit pay, a good job = the negotiated pay, an excellent job = pay rise.
I'm starting to believe the women in Hillary's camp want to get paid more (than men) for doing less (than men). That business model will cripple industry.
>>73885327
Fucking boilmakers.
>>73885394
>who thinks Trump is a populist
> Populism
> noun
> 2. (lowercase) any of various, often antiestablishment or anti-intellectual political movements or philosophies that offer unorthodox solutions or policies and appeal to the common person rather than according with traditional party or partisan ideologies.
> 3. (lowercase) grass-roots democracy; working-class activism; egalitarianism.
> 4. (lowercase) representation or extolling of the common person, the working class, the underdog, etc.:
>implying this is a bad thing
>>73885279
why does bernie get all the cute girls
>>73885438
this one
Why can't Trump step up and crush the wage gap myth?
No balls.
>>73885612
Ever since that fucking Bioshock game this shit has been on the liberal blacklist.
>>73885612
populism is cañcer, a subversive branch of demagogue trickery
dishonest and based on emotions elevated above rational analysis
I thought /pol/ would be against that
>>73885526
>or maybe we could try and stop the essentialist mindset from dominating discourse and start viewing people as simply people?
Sure. And to do that you have to dump all of this identity politics garbage that seeks to fix "problems" that you can't actually fix because they're just aggregate outputs of how different we all are. There's nothing that actually needs fixing in relation to differences because there's no overbearing entity that's producing or enforcing these outcomes.
It's just the result of our individual actions leading to a collective whole.
This may seem defeatist in how I'm presenting it, but that's exactly what is taking place on topics such as "The Gender Wage Gap".
>>73885578
Boilermakers always seem to be in really, really high demand. Pay is pretty good too. I wonder why there are so few female ones.
>>73885718
>wanting Trump to put attention on fictitious issues
wew lad. I guarantee you that Trump would BTFO of Clinton when it comes up in the debate. He doesn't need to say anything about it until then.
>>73882623
What is wrong with this?
>>73885327
>tfw want to be a carpenter
>>73885857
Will there be a Clinton v Trump debate soon?
>>73885785
Populism is just a buzzword. Appealing to the will of the people is the whole point of a Republic since your representatives are SUPPOSED to be REPRESENTATIVE of those that elected them.
It's a linguistic boogeyman that gets associated with certain negative things without recognition that it's a rather innocuous term.
Its meaning and context of that meaning depends entirely upon what it is that appeals to the public in question.
>>73885918
September.
>>73884927
>that one faggot trying to shill4Hill
>>73885895
Do you have an attractive sister?
>>73885612
It's pandering to the voters with shallow or misleading policy promises. There's usually nothing of substance to their campaigns and speeches besides what they think the average joe voter wants to hear. They never make good leaders but occasionally make good candidates.
>>73885751
I wouldn't know, never played the Bioshock series.
>>73885964
Oh man I can't wait its going to be fucking awesome. I want blood to be shed.
>>73885993
kek
>>73885811
why did you advocate ending essentialism and then spout essentialism? we're all inherently different and so on? do you just agree isms are bad without knowing what they are?
>>73882887
/thread
>>73885000
Yeah. It's not even Trump being le ebin troll or pandering to (often justified I'm coming to understand) Misogynistic statements, he simply gave the cross section between a Trump statement and a politician's statement, i.e something both blunt and non-committal.
Is this the end for Hilary?
She literally called an egalitarian statement sexist. There should be no rational people left who actually support her.
>>73882623
"You're gonna make the same if you do as good a job" implies that the default is that women don't do as good of a job and thus make less rightly so.
He's digging himself into a deeper grave with women, and this problem will sort itself out come election day.
I dunno about in other industries but in finance this is definitely true. You think the industry gives a fuck about what you have between your legs? They care about what return you can generate.
Say what you like about bankers bonuses omg they're killing poor people or some shit but you can't say they don't work in the most meritocratic industry.
>>73883503
>The whole "women card" feminism bullshit is actualy a really fucking retarded play from the left because they allready lead women votes by 2:1 even before it, and all it does is alienate men.
Leftist men had their balls removed over a decade ago. They no longer respond to traditionally male psychological triggers.
More free advertising for the Trump campaign. These salty elites brainwashing and peogramming is FAILING.
People are using their brains and making up their own minds. Trump is the savior. WW3 gas the kikes edition. Mutual destruction for Zion and Islam.
>>73886184
But she's a woman! We gunna have the first female president! That makes Trump sexist for running against her, don't you know?
>>73886040
>It's pandering to the voters with shallow or misleading policy promises.
That's not what the term populism means. That's the meaning you have assigned to it.
So again, you're just reinforcing that what you think "Populism" is gets tainted by what you consider the will of the public to be and how anyone attempts to appeal to that will.
Populism is only "bad" if the will of the people is "bad".
>There's usually nothing of substance to their campaigns and speeches besides what they think the average joe voter wants to hear.
Also not populism, but your stereotypical politician.
>They never make good leaders but occasionally make good candidates.
Good luck providing an example. Every candidate ever elected by majority vote is essentially a "populist" in that they appealed to the common man.
This group includes: Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Jimmy Carter, Abraham Lincoln, and Andrew Jackson.
>>73886188
No it fucking doesn't. See >>73882887
>>73882749
>check flag
it all makes sense
>>73884036
>ATM Machine
>PIN number
Are you stroking out yet you spaz?
>>73886076
>we're all inherently different and so on?
My point was that the differences are going to lead to different outcomes. There's a disconnect between what people who champion equality claim to want and the practicalities of ever being able to achieve it.
>>73886188
most women work in customer service roles such as cashiers whilst males tend to do manual labour with longer hours.
>>73885638
Ohhh, I can see what you mean!
>>73886188
if person A does a good job then they'll make the same as someone else who has done a good job.
He just outlined the condition necessary for equal pay to happen, everything else you said is just you interpreting it negatively.
Trump has said alot of stupid shit, but this is as neutral as it gets.
>>73884176
Typos are still mistakes, little guy.
>>73884407
There he goes again
>>73885821
my gfs father is one...
relative to the country and purchasing power its actually a good job expecially in autumn and winter.
>>73884060
Yea I'd want to fuck her.
>>73882887
This family. Hilary is going to learn the hard way like everyone else
>>73882887
>For women it's offensive, because women never take statements at face value. They always think someone means something else, because that's how they communicate
FUCKING THIS
FUCKING ROASTIES REEEEEEEEEE
>>73886333
haha you fat moron never reply to my post again
>>73883058
Fuck off, tumblr.
>>73882623
Shilldog needs to lap up every word that dribbles out of the Trumpman's mouth before she gets indicted by the FBI
>>73882887
>never take statements at face value
More like, not in context. I'm a guy, and figured out the implication right away. But yeah, context.
The next US president is going to be shit either way, whether it's Hillary, Bernie or Trump.
>>73886734
Cry more bitch nigger
>>73886734
Does it really feel that good to be an idiotic shitposter?
>>73886820
I have literally never been on tumblr in my life
>>73882749
It's not subjective. If you do the same amount of work of the same quality and don't get pregnant on a whim, you will make equal pay. If a man were to take maternity leave, he most certainly would take a financial hit.
>>73882623
hillary is courting the retard vote
she is an enemy of the state
>>73885620
Cute girls are used to getting something for doing nothing of value.
>>73884901
>eeew
Underage or cunt?
>>73883076
Women are less likely to prove that they deserve a raise. When they do ask, there argument is always based on their personal wants and needs (i.e. need more to pay for kids college)
Men are more likely to bring in evidence, such as what competitors are paying, projects they have completed above and beyond their job description, examples of how they have saved or made money for the company.
It is more difficult for the boss to reject a raise of say $10,000 when you can prove you made the company an extra $100,000.
>>73883479
And this will be hillarious if trump brings it up in a debate. Just to watch her try to argue her way out of it.
>>73885232
Most assuredly a Brock shill
>>73886421
literally who says "PIN number"?
>>73883248
with this tweet, Hillary says she does't have to do as well as Trump
>>73883248
They don't have a choice. Trump is bringing out white males like crazy. He stands to shift the traditional black and Hispanic votes by 5-10% margins despite all the attacks.
The woman card is the only one left. Hillary NEEDS 65%+ of the woman vote just to break even.
>>73882623
>Donald: Equal pay for equal work
>Hillary: WAAAAAH! Equal pay period!
Fucking hell.
>>73882623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjWBXbGVyQU
>>73884620
>>73884726
>>73886591
fuck or hatefuck?
i'd want to hatefuck her only.
>>73885024
>2011
This bullshit will never go away.
>>73891560
wanna fuck her, so when i'm about to cum i can scream WHO'S THE NOMINEE- WHO'S THE NOMINEE NOW?!
>>73884488
>All the people asking for proof
>When they show proof they just change to "muh tax returns"
>>73883198
Some pay is more equal than others.
>/pol/ will just think you're a troll if you try to educate them on the societal structures that hold women back
>>73884927
kek
>>73892854
>believeing that women are held back in
>THE CURRENT YEAR
>>73884477
This is what I always say. If a company could reduce payroll 23% by just hiring women instead, 100% of them would do it. Men unemployment would be 40%.
It doesn't happen though, so it's obviously not true. There are ZERO companies that WILLINGLY pay more for a man, if they was ANY CHANCE at them paying a woman less for the exact same outcome. Zero.
>>73882749
Jesus you Hillary shills are so obvious. At least the JIDF and Berniebots have some basic understanding of the culture here. You guys are fucking retarded.
>>73883603
>nobody has said women get paid less in the same position as men,
Yes, actually they have been trying to say that and it is a sizable misconception of objective truth that exists within our collective culture.
>the problem is that women are rused into lower paying positions socially, or denied good positions
Nobody is rusing women into low paying jobs socially, they chose those jobs, in all the sense that people can be rational actors and have free will in our society.
Women are absolutely NOT denied good positions. In fact they are highly sought after.
The 'wage gap concept' is objectively wrong and a harmful misconception in the public mind no matter how you look at it.
>>73892854
Educate us then
>>73882887
We literally have a women in our government who believes in the paygap myth and sexism on the workfloor.
Pic related.
It's pretty crazy that people like her are only 'fighting' for more women in high positions like CEO and shit like that but never for women in other fields like plumbing, electricians, construction workers or other jobs that are covered by pretty much males only.
>>73895113
it's not his job to educate you shitlord
stop sealioning
>>73883864
Not only that but they say
>women are paid less in the same position EVEN WHEN FACTORING IN EDUCATION, EXPERIENCE, AND HOURS
can someone explain how anyone gets the data for that, considering businesses don't have to release stats on employee experience, education, and hours?
>>73895174
Well, if you think that is bad remember that Mexico has a woman in the senate who wants to ban pepe and other memes
>>73895174
Why do they always look like psychos
>>73885327
>drillers of earth
Hello Pajeet
