>“He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.”
How does it feel knowing that left wing users practically control Wikipedia, which is the main source of information in the 21st century?
In theory Wikipedia is a great thing, but in reality it has a huge user base of left wing supporters and SJWs that are actively changing history and politics to suit their views.
Should there be an alternative to Wikipedia?
>>73379967
That's probably the key. I don't think you can ever get enough motivated right wing and crentrist people to work for these sites, and we're reaching a point where alternatives may be possible.
Of course, the media will circle the ideological wagons and declare anything new to be "dangerously right wing", but I think we've seen that there is such a growing backlash to the PC and SJW left that that no longer matters. There's so many people willing to get on board. If Trump can have that many supporters, we can create a better Wikipedia without the bullshit.
The leftist will try their usual Shane tactics that have worked for decades, and, just like with Trump, they'll futilely cry that "they can't keep getting away with this! Why are they able to have their own opinions! This isn't happening!"
Now you just got to find a way to create the damn thing in the first place.
>>73379967
yeah but most of the stuff we take for granted was probably warped in its own time too
if you think wiki is bad remember that before the printing press all the world's knowledge was literally contained in a few select libraries
>>73379967
If you try to clone Wikipedia with the sole intent of avoiding leftist revisionism, you end up with a complete shithole like Conservapedia.
>>73379967
Meh, I find wikipedia to be staunchly neutral like 95% of the time, and I browse news articles on stormfront, for reference. Focus your energy elsewhere, this is pretty low priority.
>>73379967
Yeah it's fucking amazing how blatant they are and no one is doing anything. I mean just look up the alt-right article.
>>73380391
>yeah but most of the stuff we take for granted was probably warped in its own time too
This is true too, thing is now we have the means to not let that happen. Or maybe we don't and I'm just being delusional. But yeah an alternative would be helpful.
>>73379967
I have modified finnish wikipedia many times. For some reason bad things aren't mentioned on cities pages etc
I don't see how wikipedia is remotely left leaning. If you can give some examples of leftists bias within wikipedia I would be pleasantly surprised, and im talking featured and good articles here since those are the ones supported by the wikipedia administration.
>>73381112
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Moore
Nowhere in this article does it mention paedophilia.
I have found this quite a bit when reading wikipedia
Look at this shit.
>The Gamergate controversy centers on the harassment campaign conducted primarily through the use of the Twitter hashtag #GamerGate, revolving around issues of sexism and progressivism in video game culture. Gamergate is used as a blanket term for the controversy, the harassment campaign and actions of those participating in it, and the loosely organized movement that emerged from the hashtag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy
The Left has come to dominate all forms of information consumption in the last decade. It's planned and discriminatory in its nature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JournoList
>>73381112
are you fucking kidding me?
see >>73381508
Go look at any article on jews for good measure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery
>Historically some Jewish people owned and traded slaves.[3] Several scholarly works have been published[4] to rebut the antisemitic canard of Jewish domination of the slave trade in Medieval Europe, Africa, and/or the Americas,[5][6][7][8] and that Jews had no major or continuing impact on the history of New World slavery.[7][8][9][10] They possessed far fewer slaves than non-Jews in every Spanish territory in North America and the Caribbean, and in no period did they play a leading role as financiers, shipowners, or factors in the transatlantic or Caribbean slave trades.[11]
It's an orchestrated attempt to stifle the flow of information using jewish sources. These biased articles will become the next generation's tool for learning history
>>73381112
Look up the article on gamergate.
>>73381112
They deleted the wiki page on cultural marxism despite being incredibly detailed and well sourced.
>>73379967
>which is the main source of information in the 21st century?
Why don't you faggots just sign up and edit it yourselves?
>>73381112
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy
>>73379967
>“He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.”
But that just means that he who controls the present controls the future, which happens to be fucking obvious.
What's with this retarded quote, who said that?
>>73384053
They just edit it back and ban you. Even if your entries are sources and theirs aren't.
>>73380666
satan has spoken
>>73384053
Right wingers are notoriously dumb so good luck even figuring out the basics haha.
That's just a proverb from fiction though, it's not real. You might like the way it sounds, but that does not mean that it has any bearing upon reality at all.
I'm pretty sure that he who maintains a massive arsenal ensuring abject annihilation for anybody against it in a state of total war while simultaneously retaining and utilizing military and economical force projection objectively controls the future, and the present as well, and it doesn't matter one single bit what anybody reads or thinks about anything.
Also, Wiki is only a source for lazy/hobby laymen. It's useless to anybody seeking a full understanding of any given topic. There are no shortcuts to knowledge, anybody who is serious about a subject must still crack books.
>>73384360
Orwell of course. Whenever some half-cocked youth acts like they've just discovered some magical truth, it's always going to be Orwell or Nietzsche.
>>73380273
Stop using the term ''right wing'' as if it was something positive.
Right wing = conservativsm, liberalism, globalism, capitalism.
All of these things are anti-white.
Right wing =/= Nationalist.
Oh, and if you're not a nationalist.... Then what the fuck are you doing on /pol/?
>>73381112
Adolf Hitler
National Socialism
Nationalism
Vladimir Putin
Viktor Orban
George Soros
Barack Obama
Donald Trump
My favorite article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism
>OY VEY IGNORE TH EVIDENCE
>WE JEWS ARE INNOCENT
>WE DIDN'T REALLY TAKE OVER RUSSIA AND KILL 60 MILLION PEOPLE
>IT'S ALL JUST A CONSPIRACY
>>73384056
Nothing on that page is inherently leftist, leftism denotes how power is theoretically derived and exercised.
Also, some of us were here when it started, it was basically a re purposing of previous raids to false flag feminists by pretending to be minorities, and this raid was themed about Zoe Quinn, all of the early gg posts were all about her and her nudes and laughing at her.
Autists spammed it until it got banned
(enraging newfags who had not been around long enough to know that 4chan has always occasionally banned stuff that gets spammed to fuck, such as the statement "prove me wrong" which used to result in an auto-ban) and the the newfags exploded into a movement and basically became chanology 2.0.
If anything, the wiki is just milqtoast garbage as it does not adequately describe how vapid and mindless gamergate's origins actually are.
I get why you lie and PRfag on rddit, but there's no point doing so here, at ground zero, since we're the fucking ones who created it in the first place.
>>73386931
>Part of a series on: Antisemitism
And btw, it's not ''leftists'', it's the CIA. They have masses of people who work full time ensuring no ''dangerous information'' gets published on Wikipedia. A prime example is the 2014 ''ukrainian revolution'' article, it's basically nothing but 100% parroting of U.S/EU/NATO propaganda, with zero facts about what happened. Not a single mention of Soros, State Department or NUDELMAN
>>73387034
>Nothing on that page is inherently leftist, leftism denotes how power is theoretically derived and exercised.
I do not accept your premise. To it, I say: no.
That is a lawyer tactic and I will not let it prosper. You will not put something forth as truth, then quickly switch subjects in the exchange to prevent any discussion on it. You will not define "leftism" like that.
Also just look at all these legitimate, non-biased, and actually backed up sources on the page.
>>73380619
>Conservapedia
What's wrong with it, ahmed?
>>73379967
I use wikipedia daily in my work as an engineer. It is a great tool because it is supported by Sources.
If you search feminism you will find feminist viewpoints.
However if you search bernoulli Equation you will find truth.
Dont search obvisiously stupid terms like scientology or sjw
>>73388021
>it is supported by the Sources that are permitted to remain on the page by the SJW crowd who watch the page for every change.
>>73379967
It is real and is an issue. I've a few examples I'll post. But first to be clear it isn't only a left wing bias. Companies pay editors to keep their pages free of anything toxic. A guy who did this made a thread on here though didn't give too much away. So yes, You have people paid to edit wiki for companies or governments. This is one kind of wikijew. The other common variety is those who do it for free. They focus autistically on SJW related stuff and cultural marxism related. The SJW stuff they always go with the pro-sjw narrative, see articles on gender pay gap, gamergate and related. The second group who do it for free are much more involved. They are generally Marxists who's main objective is to censor anything that dares mention cultural marxism, even when said article makes clear that there is contention over the issue.
Most recently relating to the last group mentioned above, I linked somebody to a page of the 'Long March through the institutions', a term for bringing about change within the current (socioeconomic) system by working from within it. This quote and approach was endorsed by a Frankfurt School theorist. Wiching half an hour of posting said page it was deleted and merged into another page. It still shows up on google and the URL given is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_long_march_through_the_institutions
I actually just checked again now and it is back up, so watch this space. But if you click on 'view history' on the wiki page you can see it was edited 27th March, merged with another page. It has since been restored.
pic related.
Other examples are cultural marxism and creeping fascism.
>>73386684
Where did I say right wing was positive? Or any of those things you're projecting?
>>73388324
You're arguing from the perspective that the absence of ''right wing'' in Wikipedia is ''bad''. You didn't explicitly write the sentence: ''I think Right-Wing is good!'', but that's the undertone of what you replied to OP with.
Let's make one and call it whiteypedia
>>73388438
The absence of objectivity in Wikipedia is bad. Read this:
http://chronicle.com/article/The-Undue-Weight-of-Truth-on/130704
>>73388543
>Let's make one and call it whiteypedia
You're not white enough to contribute, sorry.
>>73388185
This page is delete.
>>73388641
Ok Mr Chang
>>73388603
''Left wing'' and ''right wing'' are not a set of rigid ideologies that balance eachother out, creating objectivity.
Jesus christ, the battle is fucking lost isn't it? When even people are who supposedly against the madness are this fucking stupid it must be fucking lost.
>>73379967
Would it not be better to destroy it or take it over? Find out who are the major moderators, see if they are committing a crime ie piracy, drugs or any such thing (Leftists dont pay for anything if they dont have to and most of them are criminals)
Then report them.
>>73388838
Easier said than done. Many of them go to lengths to hide their true ID. There are many accusations of socket-puppetry too.
Reddit is actually doing pretty well in this, at least as far as documenting it goes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/2qrof3/after_over_7_years_on_wikipedia_the_cultural
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3f6fey/wikipedias_sjw_crowd_manages_to_delete_the/
So, should i try to fight and be stomped on and ridiculed or just switch to the side that is winning in hope i will get some Vaseline to smoothen the assfucking?
>>73381112
The article on black wall street desperately tries to save face about niggers summoning up white pride and as a community attempting to protect a rapist.
>>73389751
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=captain+america%27s+quote+on+planting+like+a+tree+or+whatever
Just go to that homie and read the picture.
>>73390113
Yes, but that is a superhuman walking propaganda symbol from the 60-80s (can't remember).
And it isn't real
>>73381508
>>73381785
Good finds. The bias is often pretty subtle, for example Jewish myth of King David is treated as fact. You must read pretty closely to discover this is just mythology. Now look at King Arthur. Made very clear from the outset that it is a myth or at least mythological. The same holds true of most articles on Jewish history, often taking the bible as a primary source.
This isn't exactly left-leaning bias but a nice example of how the language used in an article can misrepresent the facts.
The above holds true of many articles related to marxism, socialism, sociology, social liberalism and general other quackery that is treated by teh wikijews with far more credence than it should be, while things perceived as even potentially right leaning are held to much higher standard.
>It's an orchestrated attempt to stifle the flow of information using jewish sources. These biased articles will become the next generation's tool for learning history
You absolutely put your finger on it here. But it's not just jews that do this.
>>73386684
>Right wing = conservativsm, liberalism, globalism, capitalism.
kek. You're a leftist right? Why didn't you just go for the old fallback of right wing = fascism. And how about you define 'left wing'? Go on. Humor me.
>Oh, and if you're not a nationalist.... Then what the fuck are you doing on /pol/?
Are you for fucking real lad? We've been driven off every other site on the net. Go fuck yourself.
>>73390535
>kek. You're a leftist right? Why didn't you just go for the old fallback of right wing = fascism. And how about you define 'left wing'? Go on. Humor me.
Are you retarded? The so called 'Right wing' IS conservatism, liberalism, capitalism and globalism, these are ideologies and philosophies associated with the political term ''right wing''.
/pol/ is a nationalist board, nationalism is in opposition to all ''right wing'' ideals, philosophies and ideologies.
>We've been driven off every other site on the net.
Yeah and you'll be driven off from here too, fuck off back to Tumblr or Reddit where you belong, anti-white.
>>73388438
It is bad. Any time when a single ideology controls history, that's bad. And yes, the people who are in control of Wikipedia have the same ideology. A left wing ideology of social justice cultural Marxism.
>>73390791
Oh, I didn't realize I was dealing with political illiterates.
>>73386931
Now I see why the gov is going to ban memes
They tell history better than wikipedia.
Do colleges still discredit wikipedia as an unreliable source?
>>73390755
We read your post the first time. When someone asks you to explain you shouldn't just repeat what you said
>>73391161
There's nothing to explain? ''Right wing'' is a political term that acts as an umbrella term for various schools of thought and ideologies. Such as for example conservatism and liberalism.
>>73379967
>le right wing meme
Right wing capitalism mixed races and created globalism, but now it blames left wing.
>implying left wing vs. right wing is even relevant in EU/USA
Switzerland is pretty mixed, more than Sweden and it got Christian wing.
>>73390755
What ideology do you think this is here? Traditional right wingery in the terms you describe it? Couldn't be further from the truth. You forgot to define leftism too.
The sheer number of shills ITT saying there is no left wing bias is pretty impressive.
>>73391855
>The sheer number of shills ITT saying there is no left wing bias is pretty impressive.
No one said anything like that, you are just being a retarded child reacting to something because your fee fees got hurt and then you inject an additional million different meanings into what said person wrote to begin with.
All I've said is that retardedly using the terms ''left wing'' and ''right wing'' for good and bad, without actually understanding the terms and what they refer to and mean, and the fact that BOTH refer to ideologies that are ALL anti-white, makes people stupid.
>>73391235
First of all, going back 100 years or so the liberal party were the ones that pushed for social change against the tories over here. Secondly today's leftism is explicitly globalist in approach. IN fact from what I've seen every leftie aside a few tankies is internationalist to the core. See how the terms you're using are problematic? You're looking at a bunch of shit you disagree with then ascribing it to what you see as your political opposition.
>>73391999
And I ask you to define leftism. Because only then can we know if your definitions are impartial or full of shit.
>>73392037
Are you retarded?
>going back 100 years or so the liberal party were the ones that pushed for social change against the tories over here.
Yeah, and the tories were not national socialists who wanted to preserve the UK's racial and ethnic purity, they were globalist capitalists who cared more about profit through free trade than about preserving the genetic integrity of the british peoples, i.e capitalist and globalist.
Liberals are the same, they are also capitalists driven by greed for profit through free trade in a globalized world.
>>73392205
So because some people who supported multiculturalism were right leaning on a political spectrum that means all right leaning people are in favour of multiculturalism?
Typical leftist trick of blurring definitions to make arguements difficult
>>73392205
You're still refusing to define leftism. Is it cause you're definition will be something along the lines of 'all that is good and right in the world'?
>>73392467
I don't even understand why you're fixated on me ''defining leftism'' which is not even possible because ''left-wing'' is an umbrella term.
You also seem like a complete political illiterate if you expect me if I had tried to ''define left wing'' that I'd say it was ''all that is good and right in the world'', which is a clear sign of your inability to read another human being, I suggest you scroll up and look at my older posts and look for clues as to where I could possibly stand politically, I believe I made it abundantly clear in the post before this one.
>>73392409
>So because some people who supported multiculturalism were right leaning on a political spectrum that means all right leaning people are in favour of multiculturalism?
Of course they are. The only ideology that isn't anti-white is national socialism, which is neither ''left wing'' or ''right wing'', it is nationalist and socialist, by and for the people, and Adolf Hitler proved what wonder National Socialism is for the people, until world jewry had enough and decided to destroy Germany.
>>73392880
>The only ideology that isn't anti-white is national socialism
Pretty much any anti immigration anti outsourcing and non privatised banking system would be the same.
>>73379967
>How does it feel knowing that left wing users practically control Wikipedia,
actually thats an insult to classical libs
those who control WP now are the latest gen of psycho campus-libs
big difference
like from traditional 70s feminists to current schizo genocidal feminists
I forgot I found this peach.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Syrian_Civil_War&oldid=411877657
Syrian civil war history pages. This appeared before the war even started.
>>73392880
So you can define right wing, the umbrella term but won't leftism? figures.
>I believe I made it abundantly clear in the post before this one.
No you're just talking all over the shop. You're anti-nationalist, apparently anti-what you consider right wing. Not leaving a lot of space. What kind of commie are you?
>Of course they are. The only ideology that isn't anti-white is national socialism, which is neither ''left wing'' or ''right wing'', it is nationalist and socialist, by and for the people, and Adolf Hitler proved what wonder National Socialism is for the people, until world jewry had enough and decided to destroy Germany.
So wait are you NatSoc? Why deride the other nationalsts then? Jesus fuck Sweden.
>>73393096
Yeah, today's term is 'progressives'. Even the left will disown them. But I think this is some kind of jewish trickery. Cause when it really gets down to it most lefties do support the critical theory, deconstructionism of their culturally focused fellow travelers.
>>73393109
To be fair that's also just really poorly written.
>>73393392
>You're anti-nationalist, apparently anti-what you consider right wing. Not leaving a lot of space. What kind of commie are you?
You must be a literal retard.
>>73379967
>They say meanny things about Hitler!!!!! It's a leftist conspiracy!!!!!
I find wikipedia quite neutral. If you actually bothered to read anything about WW2, you would know that the Hitler bad fame is totally deserved
''Right wing'' is not a ''nationalist ideology'', you stupid fucking political illiterate, just shut the fuck up if you have no fucking idea what you're talking about, jesus christ.
>>73393449
It is but it checks out. It was published the day before the first protests calling for said protests. This is probably more an example of alphabet agencies being on the case.
>>73393643
is can be, and often is, just not always
>>73393585
Why is it so hard for you to answer a simple question. That's two now you've avoided.
>literally everyone and their grandma constantly saying you can't trust what anyone says on the internet and that you can't trust or source info from wikipedia
>can't use it as a source for homework in any academic setting
>suddenly kike shit starts happening harder than usual
>nobody acts like wikipedia isn't a super terrible source for information anymore
>>73393711
NO you fucking retard.
RIGHT WING = CONSERVATISM, LIBERALISM, CAPITALISM AND GLOBALISM
THESE THINGS ARE NOT NATIONALIST, THEY ARE ANTI-NATIONALIST
>>73393819
Okay, I'm a communist national socialist, you're such a smart boy!
>>73393597
Portugal shut the fuck up before we sink you, you nation of ghoulish fuckboys.
>>73379967
Jews have boiler rooms where they troll & edit shit like wiki.
Alternative is metapedia but not enough people to run it
Wikipedia can still help you with a lot of different things.
personal soldier request. lol.
anyone with a wikipedia account could have fun with this:
the bruce jenner article is very careful to never say "he"; all of his athletic achievements were by "Jenner".
ahem.
Walter Carlos did the music for A Clockwork Orange, years before he switched to Wendy Carlos. And yet, "his" wikipedia article says "she" composed the music, "she" did this, "she" did that, all during the years that she was a man.
So! Go change one or the other articles to make them consistent. I'd change the Jenner article to say "she" won the decathlon in the olympics, for example. Be subtle, not a vandal. and watch them squirm as they try to defend the inconsistency.
>>73393865
again, no
there is overlap
dont shoot the messenger
>>73380642
You're just lying here
Wikipedia pushes agenda on anything even slightly political and the editors are roughly 95% left wing activists
There are a few concepts which are absolute lynchpins of the modern "whatever it is liberals are now" worldview which are policed to a hilarious extent. The articles on Scientific Racism, Climate Change Denial and Holocaust Denial read like some genuinely raw and buzzing pieces of contemporary totalitarian propaganda.
>>73394040
If you see here >>73393888
they already call Wu a female despite being a disgusting he-she freak that looks like a monster out of a horror book.
If there was an alternative to wikipedia it would suffer from the same problems. It would be a right wing only site run by faggots who force their own propaganda.
It's human nature.
The closest thing to a truly neutral information source is Encyclopedia Dramatica. They're so open about being biased and unreliable that it actually ends up being more honest and reliable than Wikipedia.
>>73379967
Your quote would make sense if wikipedia was the only source of information on all topics. As it stands, it's so widely understood to be unreliable that not only can you not cite it as a scholarly source, mentioning you learned something from reading it is colloquially taken to mean "we both understand this is probably at least partially bullshit",
The reason that quote was so relevant in 1984 was because he was speaking about a state run media that controlled all information. Wikipedia is nothing even remotely similar to that and on top of it anyone can edit it, it's not some limited cloistered few. And finally once and for all it most certainly is NOT controlled by the jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews 923g$558123)]\!~%$8264444*@?,{==+jews
>>73381112
>>73393888
Holy fuck, is that how hard they've managed to seal the deal with Gamergate and claim it was a ''harassement campaign''? Jesus christ, how fucking disgsuting these jews are.
I skimmed through the article a bit, everywhere it's all just insinuations that it's a ''harassement campaign'' and ''misogynists'' etc. .
It's the paid shills of the U.S/EU/NATO system that did that, to suppress reaction to jewish infiltration and subversion of gaming industry to create and spread anti-white propaganda.
>>73393825
>nobody acts like wikipedia isn't a super terrible source for information anymore
Because it's not.
>>73393888
Only fucking autists care about anything as autistic as gamergate.
>>73394072
>there is overlap
What does this even mean? Right wing =/= nationalism, it's that simple.
>>73393865
>THESE THINGS ARE NOT NATIONALIST, THEY ARE ANTI-NATIONALIST
So where on the spectrum do you place nationalsim?
>>73393932
Plus metapedia is explicitly white supremacist. Not ideal if you want to show somebody something. Rational-wiki still has the cultural marxism page up.
>>73394073
>editors are roughly 95% left wing activists
you are free to edit the articles, But you are dumb as fuck and they don't accept stormfront infographs as sources
>>73387062
>Part of a series on: Antisemitism
that's a big article, bigger than other articles about other types of xenophobia, complete with lots of links.
Also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film
This a fairly new article, with one editor for all of it seems.
>>73394302
but thats fucking objective you retard
gay pride organizations dont beat and murder people
>>73394350
>So where on the spectrum do you place nationalsim?
There IS NO spectrum. The notion of a ''political spectrum'' was created by smart people to control stupid people. Liberalism is liberalism, capitalism is capitalism, there's no ''spectrum'' upon which you can place ideologies like that.
If socialism was leftist, then national socialism would be a ''le leftist ideology xD'', right? But it fucking isn't considered to be because the smart people who want to control the goyim want to associate the term ''left wing'' with = good, and ''right wing'' with = bad, hence they call nationalists ''far right''.
>>73383898
can you explain true story vs. how wiki tries to frame it? not trolling - legitimately want to know
>>73394335
what does this mean?
the sets are not mutually exclusive
(like in a circle-set visual model)
>its that simple
yeah, and PI is exactly 3, because text on internet
where nationalism is pervasive, ubiquitous tradition, it would necessarily be right wing in that place by meaning of the terms
>>73394506
neither do whites
niggers and muslims do
fuck off nigger
>>73390755
>liberalism, capitalism and globalism, these are ideologies and philosophies associated with the political term ''right wing''.
You have to be a troll, nobody is this retarded and ignorant.
>>73394302
Your picture provides accurate definitions of those terms, bravo.
>>73394440
This will stay up. Despite there being no objective reality in the claim. This is really the heart of the bias. The moderators are largely left wing and apply a much higher standard of proof/evidence to 'right wing' articles.
>>73394506
what about black power groups?
>>73394440
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
I've watched this article evolve from baselessly saying it was a conspiracy theory ran by anti-semites, to it being propaganda made by anti-semites in the 60s, to it being propaganda made by anti-semites in the 60s with a source which turned out to be a paper made by a 16 year old Jew, to it being possible propaganda made by anti-semites, to it being funded by Ford and distributed through Hitler.
>>73394259
>it's so widely understood to be unreliable that not only can you not cite it as a scholarly source
That's because you guys are fucking idiots. You're an idiot. You're such a fucking idiot I wish I could punch you and every other retard who thinks this.
The reason they rejected your essay in school was not because Wikipedia is an unreliable source of information. They rejected it because WIKIPEDIA IS NOT A SOURCE OF INFORMATION.
How can you faggots not get this?
All Wikipedia does is give you links to sources. That's all Wikipedia is. You're supposed to click on the little blue numbers to get the actual source of information.
Quoting wikipedia and expecting to get a good grade is like ''quoting the library''. You guys are fucking morons.
I figured this shit out when I was 12 years old. Everyone in my school eventually figured it out and realized that the problem isn't that they shouldn't use wikipedia, the problem is that they weren't using the sources.
>>73394599
your post doesn't even mean anything, not going to reply until you post again more coherently
>>73379967
>Wikipedia
>main source of information in the 21st century
maybe if I want to know if some public figure is a jew, for everything else I'd rather go to a library thanks
>>73394518
And yet you're happily defining what right wing is all over this thread?
>>73394621
back to plebbit nigger
>>73394613
What was retarded or ignorant about that post? The ideologies of liberalism and conservatism, aswell as globalism and capitalism, are considered by (those who benefit from portraying it as such) to be ''right wing'' ideologies.
Of course it's a completely pointless and meaningless categorization, but amongst the masses, the term ''right wing'' IS an umbrella term for those things I mentioned.
This discussion is more meta than /pol/retards are able to manage.
>>73394730
Really because my physics professor told me specifically it was because Wikipedia was an unreliable source that only stupid fucking idiots use because it's more convenient than picking up a book and learning how shit works yourself.
Not even paraphrasing.
>>73394744
>your post doesn't even mean anything,
appeal to the stone fallacy, cop out
england-speak comprehension a problem? ESL?
special bus?
> not going to reply until
and?
>you post again more coherently
_brilliant_ cop-out
just superb
yes, stick with that and duck out gracefully
christ.
>>73394769
I'm not ''defining right wing'', I'm stating what ideologies are in public discorse understood to be under the umbrella term that is ''right wing''.
The fact that I place zero inherent value in the term ''right wing'' as it serves no purpose, goes without saying.
>>73394744
p.s.
nevermind, i see you dont know what any of these terms mean, so ESL
apologies & condolences
plenty of dictionaries online, totally free to boot.
>>73394856
Wikipedia is not a source. It references sources.
>>73394897
Again, your post literally doesn't mean anything in the english language.
>>73394897
Just fuck are you writing from a phone or did you just recently blow in from Reddit? You write like a nigger on Twitter.
>>73394851
it's not an umbrella term. right-wing means you support the king and reject the French Rev and if you don't, you're a commie.
wanting capitalism to not be destroyed by commies is not an ideology in the same way that not wanting my house burned down by bikers isn't an ideology.
Fucking hell. This is why most of you will be nothing but cannon fodder, why am I even engaging wih you? As long as you want to raise a rifle against the people the officers point towards, you'll do your job.
>>73395012
>right-wing means you support the king and reject the French Rev and if you don't, you're a commie.
>>73379967
>How does it feel knowing that left wing users practically control Wikipedia, which is the main source of information in the 21st century?
Ironically wiki media was founded by an Austrian school of economics type
>>73379967
Why don't you just say it anon. You know who is really behind it.
>>73394851
No lad, you just keep moving the goalposts.
>>73386684
You're first post ITT suggested that you DO accept these terms. You then went on to define one of them, largely in the negative and refuse to touch the other. You're sending all sorts of mixed signals. Maybe you need to step away from the keyboard?
>>73395071
you think i'm joking but i'm really not.
>>73394705
>Henry Ford funded printing of 500,000 copies that were distributed throughout the US in the 1920s. Adolf Hitler was a major proponent. It was studied, as if factual, in German classrooms after the Nazis came to power in 1933,[1]
Someone needs to put a [citation needed] in there after "Hitler was a proponent, kek.
>>73395051
>Why is no one on my totally not "Right wing" board of an anime forum as intelligent as me
>>73394979
All information is an amalgamation of other information regardless of its source. If you could not reference sources because they too reference sources then you could not use many commonly referenced sources such as the FDR
>>73395110
>>73386684
>Right wing = liberalism
What Sven. Maybe politics are different in Cuckden
>>73395111
>No lad, you just keep moving the goalposts.
WHAT FUCKING GOALPOSTS, WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT
>
You're first post ITT suggested that you DO accept these terms. You then went on to define one of them, largely in the negative and refuse to touch the other. You're sending all sorts of mixed signals. Maybe you need to step away from the keyboard?
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, ALTERNATIVELY YOU'RE LITERALLY CLINICALLY RETARDED
>>73395215
>>73394856
That's a completely different thing entirely.
You can't learn anything from wikipedia. Of course if you're learning physics you're going to read a physics book and not a fucking article on wikipedia that presents small snippets of information explaining what some physics concepts are while pointing you at the sources that back up the claims.
At no point did anyone claim that you can learn how shit works by reading wikipedia, that's not what the site is for. It's (in theory) a site that lists facts and backs them up with sources.
The only problem with the site is that their asshole mods are using unreliable sources to push their own agenda.
Are you retarded? Genuine question. Are you retarded?
>>73395174
/pol/ is not ''right wing'', /pol/ is a national socialist board that has in the past two years been swarmed by a bunch of redditors and tumblritas that think they're ''cool right wing conservative christians xD''.
>>73394984
see:
>>73394967
and good luck!
>>73395243
Sweden doesn't have politics they just roll over and take it.
>>73395320
>present anecdotal theorycrafting as if it's a fact
>get actual information that shows it isn't a fact
>ACTHTUHALLY
Fuck off.
>>73394979
What is your objective assessment of the sources section here? >>73395110
>>73394996
>ad hom
how original, youre a piece of work
>>73386931
> It is similar to the ZOG conspiracy theory, which asserts that Jews control world politics.[1]
No zog stands for Zionist occupied government and in regards to the US is absolutely 100% factual.
Ffs the Iraq war happened exclusively due to Zionist who outright fabricated and manipulated intelligence and shoehorned it in front of actual legitimate CIA intelligence simply because it wasn't giving the answers the Zionist wanted
>>73379967
It's only left wing on articles of little importance like Gamergate.
Wikipedia is shit entirely, it's in thrall to anyone who can take advantage of it's Byzantine stupid rules and provide a "reliable source" [read, a citation from the unreliable press] - this is SJWs in some cases, governments in others, and outright shills in others still.
There are alternatives to Wikipedia, the problem is that they have no real userbase - because everyone uses Wikipedia. This is the inherent problem in web centralization - when a centralized site goes to hell, decentralized alternatives won't become popular for a long time unless there's a sudden big-bang moment (like when digg users moved to reddit or myspace to facebook), but each centralized site currently in existence knows of this risk and takes steps against it (like wikipedia branching out into wikibooks, wikia [i think that's theirs?], wikipedia commons, etc, etc. or Google buying Youtube, Android, making cars, etc.)
Centralization is death.
>>73395243
Americans don't know what ''liberalism'' is, to you, ''liberalism'' is ''anyone who isn't a republican'', which actually doesn't mean much since both actual liberals and conservatives (republicans) are both right-wing globalist capitalists who work towards the extermination of the white race
>>73395343
>/pol/ is a national socialist board
I support national socialism but no it isn't.
The idea of an anonymous board on a website created to discuss anime having a unified political belief is laughable
>>73395398
So that's a yes then?
We should ban you Mexican posters. You guys are fucking retards.
>>73395502
>It's only left wing on articles of little importance like Gamergate.
yeah, plus something over 99 percent of all of that rest that connect to politics in any far flung imaginable way
RGLoucester was instrumental in shutting down the wikipedia page for Cultural Marxism. He's also very active regarding shutting people down on Gamergate aswell. I'm fairly certain this RGLoucester account is one of the many CIA psyops operatives who work full-time to control the narrative on Wikipedia.
>>73394996
just noticed this:
>Just fuck are you
>you write dumbly
oh god lol
>>73395556
>>73395556
>>73395808
>>73395574
I'm interested in some examples of what you consider to be serious political bias.
I concede it exists, but a lot of the time there's the innocent explanation that the "liberal biased" explanation it gives is reasonably moderate for making the general point of the article. (i.e. an article on airline deregulation may use a "liberal bias" anti-deregulation source, but since it's only as a citation of the fact that deregulation caused a lot of smaller airlines to go bankrupt or get gobbled up by bigger ones it's not a serious problem, because that did factually happen, even if deregulation was good overall.)
Their policy on reliable sources was not built for the internet age. A Kotaku article on what people are saying on 4chan is considered more reliable than an archive of the actual thread in question.
>>73395808
23% isn't a majority.
Also strawpoll should be taken with a grain of salt
>>73395808
>>73395842
>less than a quarter of /pol/ is NatSoc
>/pol/ is a Nat SOC board
Retard.
Also for every 10 people who say they are NatSoc I see one who has any modicum of understanding of what Nat SOC actually is.
The vast majority of NatSoc on this board have no understanding of it outside of limited buzzwords much like your average Marxist
>>73395908
woops, there is no liberal bias whatsoever on WP now that i am not feeling inclined to look any up
>>73379967
Wikipedia is not a great thing its just mereley a jewish tool
>Make wikipedia
>write your version of history
>and manipulate information of everything else in a way you only show the bare minimum
>pass educational laws that encourage the student to investigate and "learn by himself"
>Since most of the students are lazy shit their sole source of information ends up being wikipedia
>They get the politically correct half assed jew approved version of everything that doesn't make them learn nor teaches them any studyng/reading/writing skills
at least thats what is happening here
>>73396133
/pol/ is a natsoc board
>>73387828
Creationism, historical revisionism regarding right wing figures and founding fathers (Hitler was a leftist, Pinochet dindu nuffin, Founding Fathers were fundamentalist Christians), articles devoted towards petty bullshit such as atheists being supposedly fat (based 100% on public figures and without citing any statistics).
>>73394593
"True story"=Gamergate is serious business and feminists chimped out for no reason. Wiki version=Gamergate is 100% sexist harrassment campaign, Both versions are retarded and biased. IMO the whole debacle is internet autist bullshit that normal people shouldn't care about either way
>>73397062
I couldn't care less about any of that internet autist bullshit
>>73386741
Tell me what an unbiased article about George Soros would include. If you want unbiased articles about Orban and Putin than learn Hungarian and Russian you lazy fuck. Also lol on Hitler.
>>73397158
so?
and?
>>73395502
>It's only left wing on articles of little importance like Gamergate
Have you read the Adolf Hitler page? Or any WW2 page?
>>73397400
If you'd like to provide me with choice of "left wing bias" against a man who's accepted across mainstream culture to have been rather bad, I could do something more useful than picking through it myself and trying to guess what you're getting at. (Because it could be anything from subtle bias reflecting current culture to "Actually the holocaust was a lie and Hitler was only responding to Polish aggression."
>>73397400
>>73397665
Although I'll stick on that I regret my initial phrasing: It's left wing on a lot more than Gamergate, I was trying to get at the fact that the problems with Wikipedia go far, far deeper than "muh left wing bias" to the point of allowing all kinds of insanity. Focusing only on left-wing bias while allowing say, Israeli bias [independent for the most part of left/right, although generally left-wingers in Britain side with Palestine] to go unhindered is ridiculous.
>>73395243
Liberalism isn't right wing. But it isn't left wing either.
Keep in mind Sven, and me, are here using the European definition of liberalism.
In America liberalism has been twisted to just be synonymous to left wing, but in Europe it still refers to classical liberalism.
Which does not really fit either of the left or right wing taxonomies, but if it did it i would say it would have to be right wing since free market capitalism and by extent classical liberalism accepts social differences as natural.
>>73393879
/leftypol/
>>73397993
"Twisted" is the wrong word. Everyone realized progressives were fucking retarded so the progressives changed their name to liberals. So it's more like "hijacked". And since then they've been consistently changing the definitions of words to suit their cause, like "racism=prejudice+power"
>>73398409
Fair enough, I don't know the history of the word's corruption. Hijacked then.
>>73398409
If you have autism, it's great fun to think about the mathematical implications of rearranging "Racism = Prejudice + Power" to find the definitions of Prejudice and Power.
>>73398556
To be fair, I'm only referring to the situation in America. But there are still many classical liberals around who fall for the trap and associate with SJWs. In recent years most of them have been ejected by the regressive left, and some end up on the alt-right.
>>73379967
Why the fuck don't we raid Wikipedia?
The Leftist do it all the time.
They even get honored on the news for doing it.
>>73400051
>EVIL NAZI ALT RIGHTERS GAMERGATERS VANDALIZE WIKIPEDIA INJECTING HORRIBLE RACISM AND ANTISEMITISM! MORE AT 11!
>>73386684
>capitalism
>anti-white
It's not like I would hope for something better from a swede, but I swear to God, I wish your country's whole population would die.
>>73379967
>the main source of information
The use of wikipedia has been steadly declining over the years, not even google is putting their pages up as the first results anymore.
There's a reason they're costantly begging for donations, on the private side as well people are dropping their support.
>>73400195
Who the fuck cares what they say? It's not working anymore.
>>73400195
We could pose as anti-semitic black panthers, and revise only Black Liberation Theology posts to reflect our Hebrew Israelite Truth.
;^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9yK-DyTrRM
>>73400639
>#notallpocs
>#internalizedracism
>#whitemenmademedoit
etc etc
>>73400639
And then the guys that run wikipedia and other lefties do some good old fashioned doxxing (cuz someone will obviously post on /pol/ something along the line of "OPeration WikiPill" or someshit)
OP has a great argument.
JEWpedia is a place where editors who doesn't apply to the mainstream views get banned with no reliable cause whatsoever.
just check some topics as coprophilia or zoophilia or 9/11 Terrorist attack on the twin towers in Jew York.
just look and tell me
>>73400734
More like
>you can clearly see in these pictures, that shakespeare was Black, and Lincold was Black, and England was Black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBdk5hDadYE
>>73400802
Just putting the idea out there, but you know, if you want to shut it down, make sure to remind people how by offering suggestions for how to ruin it.
>>73401142
Nigga, it happens ALL THE DAMN TIME!
Is not so much as "giving an idea" as it is "telling a fact"
>>73394429
>you are free to edit the articles, But you are dumb as fuck and they don't accept stormfront infographs as sources
I've never been on stormfront, is it any good?
you apparently have no idea how wikipedia works
anyone can sign up as an editor
anyone can edit
but senior editors have authority and most of them are left wing activists
they brigade anything political, delete any edits they disagree with, and block any editors who try to fight their narrative
so no, you can not edit wikipedia, not unless the people who control it allow you to
>>73401272
muh editing the shoah
>>73401272
Stormfront is basically the global experts on racial science, since that is taboo in mainstream academia (and wikipedia).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#Race
>The biological validity of race is disputed.[36] The current mainstream view in the social sciences and biology is that race is a social construction based on folk ideologies that construct groups based on social disparities and superficial physical characteristics.[37] Sternberg, Grigorenko & Kidd (2005) state, "Race is a socially constructed concept, not a biological one. It derives from people's desire to classify."[34] The concept of human "races" as natural and separate divisions within the human species has also been rejected by the American Anthropological Association. The official position of the AAA, adopted in 1998, finds that advances in scientific knowledge have made it "clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups" and that "any attempt to establish lines of division among biological populations [is] both arbitrary and subjective."[38]
>Sternberg
>Sternberg
>Sternberg
Every fucking time.
>>73379967
I'd suggest going to metapedia, they offer topics on race, culture and ideology, and other things you wouldn't find on wikipedia
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
Just fucking edit it if it's wrong, use the discussion page and check the history.
>>73381112
Look up "white pride"
