Okay /pol/ lets take a break from all the non-issues like tranny bathrooms and complaining about black people to talk about something that will effect the whole world for as long as we breath.
Several international companies are continuously cucking us by controlling the entire food supply from production to consumption.
These are modern day monopolies /pol/, why are we just doing nothing while these guys manipulate legislation to line their pockets.
Pic related, continuing
Okay here are some of the things this company has done
>created a monopoly in several developing worlds, controlling crops world wide by using artificial growth hormones which put a lot of small farmers out of business
did this in Brazil, argentina, China, India and others
>Michael R. Taylor, a former Monsanto Vice President for Public Policy is now the current Senior Advisor to the Commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration
this isn't actually evil but it's fucked up
as is this
>spent over 6 million on lobbying
>is in bed with countless senators and governors
>is part of the BIO, the Biotechnology Industry Organization which spent over 16 million on lobbying
>tried getting the Farmers assurance provision to include this: "authorizing the USDA to grant "temporary" permission for GMO crops to be planted, even if a judge has ruled that such crops were not properly approved, only while the necessary environmental reviews are completed. That's an authority that the USDA has, in fact, already exercised in the past" and only removed it out of controversy
>rose the glyphosate levels 200 times to 20 milligrams per 1 kilogram of soya in the UK, it was later found out that Stanley Greenburg was working with Monsanto even though he was an election advisor to Tony Blair
>Drew a number of Indian farmers to suicide because they were in debt to them because the seeds they sold to them were too high and then refused when the government told them to lower it
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>several US diplomats who worked directly for Monsanto approve Spain to grow MON810 which is a Monsanto grown GMO
>US monsanto lobbiers along with Spain got France not to ban any GMO, and they pursuaded the EU not to increase biotechnology laws
>In 1994 Monsanto began to produce a recombinant bovine somatotropin (rBST) branded Posilac. The administration of rBST increases the milk yield in lactating cows. From 2000 to 2005 the USDA National Agricultural Statistics Service (NASS) survey of dairy producers found that about 17% of producers used rBST. Milk from rBST-treated cows is not chemically identical to traditional milk; milk from rBST-treated cows contains slightly elevated levels of certain hormones. Cows treated with rBST have a substantially higher rate of mastitis, the inflammation of breast tissue, and more often require antibiotics.
>Monsanto paid for the campaign of the president in the white house.
obama signed the "monsanto protection act"
http://www.ibtimes.com/monsanto-protection-act-5-terrifying-things-know-about-hr-933-provision-1156079
>owns the world seed bank in Svalbard housing all natural seeds of the world while they are trying to force their mutated crap on everyone else. Why?
https://youtu.be/QHw4AxJX5Wo
>literally responsible for water shortages all around the world and the US
>sells marked up filtered tap water ie Dasani
>experimented on animals, but more specifically cut into a monkey's face to test the nerve's reaction to sweet taste
>funded the apartheid because it's profitable
>assisted and helped fund paramiltary groups to try to take out unions
>Smithfield pigs are raised in barns that hold thousands of tightly packed hogs. The floors of these barns have slits that allow waste to fall through into a series of pipes that takes it to massive open-air holding ponds.
>The pigs are injected with a cocktail of antibiotics, sprayed with insecticides, and dozens of chemicals that all end up in the holding ponds that are so toxic that if somebody falls in, they’ll be dead instantly
>they then spray the pigs waste in the air, making it someone else's problem. A problem filled with hydrogen sulfide, ammonia, methane, and over a hundred other toxic gases that gave people in the surrounding areas conditions like bronchitis, asthma, and neurological damage.
>female pigs endure constant cycles of forced pregnancy. Newborn piglets are taken from their mothers after just a few weeks. They have their teeth clipped in half, their tails cut off, and their ears mutilated, and the males have their testicles ripped out—all without any painkillers.
>Smithfield manipulates pigs’ genetics to make them grow more flesh than they naturally would, which causes many pigs to suffer painful joint problems. Smithfield also feeds animals large amounts of antibiotics to keep them alive in the filthy factory-farm conditions. Yet many animals die before they are fully grown (Smithfield sees it as just a cost of doing business).
>The survivors are often too sick to stand when they are forced onto the backs of trucks (often by being beaten and shocked with electric prods) and shipped to slaughterhouses through all weather extremes without food or water.
>these terrified pigs—weakened from their long, frightening journey—are hung upside down and have their throats cut, sometimes while they are still conscious.
>In 2006, the National Labor Relations Board ruled that Smithfield was illegally firing, threatening, and even beating workers who asked for better working conditions and a small wage increase
sources coming
>>72531066
>the river of pigs waste and blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayGJ1YSfDXs
>the rest
http://www.peta.org/features/smithfield/
http://www.upworthy.com/a-drone-flew-over-a-pig-farm-to-discover-its-not-really-a-farm-its-something-much-more-disturbing
http://www.humanesociety.org/news/press_releases/2010/12/smithfield_pigs_121510.html
>bought coffee beans for 26 dollars a pound
>only 1 dollar goes to the farmers themselves
>the ethiopian government tried to trademark the beans
>starbucks along with the National Coffee Association denied them the right to.
>artificial pumpkin spice flavor was said to be carcinogen which they tried to cover up at all costs.
>drives out small businesses by buying premium real estate within small vincinities of each other, or "saturating the market". For example, Starbucks fueled its initial expansion into the UK market with a buyout of Seattle Coffee Company, but then used its capital and influence to obtain prime locations, some of which operated at a financial loss
>>72531095
Jesus christ that is fucking absurd
In June 2003, the company illegally dumped untreated wastewater from its poultry processing plant near Sedalia, Missouri
>Company hired illegal labor because they couldn't find cheap legal labor
>they got fucking aquitted even after the fact
>In 2004, Tyson Fresh Meats had used captive supply agreements to artificially lower fed cattle prices in violation of the Packers and Stockyards Act.
>PETA alleges that workers were instructed to rip the heads off of birds who missed the throat-cutting machines. He claims he saw birds scalded alive in the feather removal tank, and he said that managers said that it was acceptable to scald 40 birds alive per shift. The investigator claims plant employees were also seen throwing around dead birds just for fun. PETA has asked Tyson to implement controlled atmosphere killing (CAK). For this reason, PETA is boycotting businesses that use Tyson as a supplier, such as KFC and distribution channels such as Sunset Strips. The video, taken by the investigator of the killings, was posted on YouTube
brace yourselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5_jLlP-Yao
>changed food labeling from "raised without anti-biotics to "raised without antibiotics that impact antibiotic resistance in humans."
>>72531095
>the river of pigs waste and blood
americans could sparta kick jews and muzzies in it for fun after Trump becomes emperor
>>72531066
>live in 'Murrica.
>think it's best cunt in the world
>be sprayed with pig shit 24/7
>your companies literally shit on you
>laugh at poo in the loo
To be honest that's evil and I have no idea why do you allow it,if it's true.
>says chickens are humanely raised while also keeping them in cages and subjecting them to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zkKirDt4WI
>nearly all the chickens have lost their feathers and are raw, angry, red flesh. The entire underside of almost every chicken is a huge, continuous bedsore
>Chickens are now bred to have huge breasts, and they often end up too heavy for their legs. Poultry Science journal has calculated that if humans grew at the same rate as modern chickens, a human would weigh 660 pounds by the age of eight weeks
http://ps.oxfordjournals.org/content/92/1/64.full.pdf+html
>although not in cages they're packed in barns having 2/3 of a square foot
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/opinion/nicholas-kristof-abusing-chickens-we-eat.html?_r=0
>mistreating workers on its Central American plantations, polluting the environment, allowing cocaine to be brought to Borneo on its ships, bribing foreign officials, evading foreign nations' laws on land ownership, forcibly preventing its workers from unionizing, and a host of other misdeeds
>carelessly exposed laborers at the Coyol plantation in Costa Rica to highly toxic pesticides on multiple occasions and ignored complaints for years
>On March 14, 2007, Chiquita Brands was fined $25 million as part of a settlement with the United States Justice Department for having ties to Colombian paramilitary groups. According to court documents, between 1997 and 2004, officers of a Chiquita subsidiary paid approximately $1.7 million to the right-wing United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC), in exchange for local employee protection in Colombia's volatile banana harvesting zone. Similar payments were also made to the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), as well as the National Liberation Army (ELN) from 1989 to 1997, both left-wing organizations. All three of these groups are on the U.S. State Department's list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Chiquita sued to prevent the United States government from releasing files about their illegal payments to Colombian left-wing guerrillas and right-wing paramilitary groups.
>caused a "golpe de estado" in some Latin American country that toppled into a dictatorship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company
>On 21 October 2007, a Brazilian peasant organization, the Landless Workers' Movement (Portuguese: Movimento dos Trabalhadores Rurais Sem Terra - MST), led a group of landless farmers in an occupation of one of the company's seed research farms, in protest against genetically-engineered vegetables and in hopes of obtaining land for landless families to cultivate. After the occupation had begun, a team from NF Security arrived in a minibus and a fight with gunfire ensued. A protestor and a security guard were killed, and some protesters and security guards were wounded.
>According to an article in the February 10, 2014, issue of The New Yorker, Syngenta's public-relations team took steps to discredit Hayes, whose research is purported to suggest that the Syngenta-produced chemical atrazine was responsible for abnormal development of reproductive organs in frogs. The article states that the company paid third-party critics to write articles discrediting Hayes's work, planned to have his wife investigated, and planted hostile audience members at scientific talks given by Hayes.
>Syngenta's contributions to US federal candidates, parties, and outside groups totaled $267,902 during 2012, ranking it 10th on the list of companies in its sector.
>Its lobbying expenditures in the US during 2012 were $1,150,000, ranking it 7th in its sector
>and illegally sold GM corn in the US
https://www.organicconsumers.org/old_articles/ge/syngenta32505.php
>artificially increased the mortality rate in a third world country by making the baby dependent on baby formula long enough for the mother to 'dry up', afterwards sold it to them, and then left them to die when the mothers didn't have access to water or couldn't afford it
>chair person said free access to water isn't a right, but backtracked because of controversy
>convinced the World Water Council to change its statement so as to reduce access to drinking water from a "right" to a "need."
>tried to get ethiopia to pay them back 6 million during a famine and only stopped because of complaints
>uses child labor then gets the Cali district Courts to not hold them liable for breaking international law
>only agreed to not use West african Child labor after they've been caught by the media
>fixed prices along with other companies
>stole vast amounts of water from San Bernardino California
>tried to sell publicly available water from Oregon at over %1000 the price they acquired it
>>72530449
Glad I live in Europe, where food and water is slightly better than totally shit thanks to stricter regulation.
Good thread keep going.
>>72530950
Do you have sources on Coca-Cola being responsible for water shortages and funding paramilitaries?
the International Labor Rights Fund filed suit against Cargill, Nestlé, and Archer Daniels Midland in federal court on behalf of children who were trafficked from Mali into Côte d'Ivoire and forced to work 12 to 14 hours a day with no pay, little food and sleep, and frequent physical abuse, on cocoa bean plantations
>uses slave labor from Uzbekistan and doesn't give a fuck
>In 1971, Cargill sold 63,000 tons of seed government treated with a methylmercury-based fungicide that eventually caused a minimum of 650 deaths when it was eaten as a food source in Iraq under Saddam's request
>>72533521
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/26/world/union-says-coca-cola-in-colombia-uses-thugs.html
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2006/mar/19/business.india1
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/08/bottled-water-california-drought
>>72530449
Read the following books concerning the faulty and misleading science that led us to the food guidelines we have today (e.g. yes, goyim, processed soybeans, and vegetable oil is much better for you than natural foods you lived on for generations)
Death by Food Pyramid by Denise Minger
Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz
>>72530449
Oh hey a MUH EVUL MONSANTO thread
fugg off SJW
>caused spike in linseed oil costs between 1916 and 1918, when the price rose from $.50 per gallon to $1.80, this company working alongside others for price fixing, and tried to price fix lysene in the 1990's
>On December 20, 2013 the SEC announced that it had charged ADM for failing to prevent illicit payments (bribes) made by its foreign subsidiaries to Ukrainian government officials in violation of the FCPA
>According to a 1995 report by the libertarian think tank Cato Institute, "ADM has cost the American economy billions of dollars since 1980 and has indirectly cost Americans tens of billions of dollars in higher prices and higher taxes over that same period. At least 43 percent of ADM's annual profits are from products heavily subsidized or protected by the American government. Moreover, every $1 of profits earned by ADM's corn sweetener operation costs consumers $10, and every $1 of profits earned by its bioethanol operation costs taxpayers $30
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-241.html
>>72534484
lmao a corporate cuck, kill yourself
Agree ... the food industry is a perfect example why crony capitalism is bad
If we have to fight one thing its this one
They are taking resources and take away the free market through bribery our politicians let this happen
Unfortunately someone like Trump is also a crony capitalist
So what do senpai?
It saddens me deeply. I know the answer is limited government and less power for politicians but its not going to happen ever.
>>72534678
can you please continue your autistic tantrums on reddit?
problem is crony capitalism
MAKE GOVERNMENT SMALLER AND COMPANIES WONT BE ABLE TO DO THIS THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT
solution isnt bigger government, its ALWAYS smaller government
regardless, i think what monstanto is actually selling is a good thing for humanity
>>72534891
why are you so mad at facts my man
>>72535023
monoculture crops aren't a good thing for crops
>>72534774
>Unfortunately someone like Trump is also a crony capitalist
he's seeking out corporate loopholes and is trying to bring production jobs back domestically, and is initiating tarriffs.
http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-donald-trump-s-tax-plan
>>72535074
>muh viruses will kill of all the crops
its not 1990, these arguments dont hold up anymore. if you stop limiting their development they will eventually come up with solutions. as i said, the monopoly is bad, but i have no issues with what they are selling
>>72535026
>facts
>muh mistreating shitskin farmers
>muh lobbying
the only thing they did wrong was bringing modern agriculture to 3rd world countries which resulted in even more shitskins.
>>72535179
how do you plan to fix genetic weakness to disease
I never trusted bigpharmalike food industries. I'm looking into growing my own food.
Actually, any NOR's know if "Nokkelhullsmerkede" or "Okologiske" marked products in Norway are what they say they are? Safe food that is not injected with a bunch of chemical bullshit?
>>72535171
dont lie to yourself lmao
this has nothing to do with taxes ...
his trade policy is probably the one i dislike the most and is the most nonsensical part about him .. his Trade policy is similar to Bernies
>bring production jobs back domestically
well should the US go back to making T-Shirts? No ... the US is way too advanced for that .. sure some jobs got outsourced but its not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things
Its just pandering to angry retards who dont understand basic economics
>>72535477
gmo's are illegal in 17 EU countries
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/opinion/sunday/with-gmo-policies-europe-turns-against-science.html
>>72535477
>EVUL CHEMICALS
>>72535341
Here is a redpill for ya. Hospitals, Vaccines, pills that save ect, are DEGENERATE. They are saving the humans that would've othewise died, thus continuing the genetically weaker human tree. Because of those help cares, humanity will not become much more resillent and stronger than we already are.
>>72535598
I'd rather consume my food the way nature intended it for me to be consumed. But by all means, go ahead and be as retarded as assuming that all the chemicals put into food nowadays are 100% safe with absolute NO downsides at all.
>>72530449
I stopped using soybean oil salad dressings.
I can only think of One regionally sold brand which uses canola oil instead.
Soybean are involved in ethanol, and you *know* how that destroys components of internal combustion engines.
>French Vinegarette.
>>72535563
companies exploit immigrant labor, which are detrimental to wages, the job market, a substantial part of the economy. If you make it so that companies cant go oversees and cant import illegal workers in, you could solve a lot of problems
>>72530449
Bump
>>72530449
Because this is /pol/, I just wanted to point out shillary loves this global monopoly.
http://naturalsociety.com/hillary-clinton-supports-gmos-again-68509/
>>72535620
>being redpilled means equating humans to animals and still believing survival of the fittest still applies
redpill doesn't exist
>>72535712
Enjoy your diseased food
>>72535958
How the hell do you think humanity has survived for so many years? I doubt there was GMO's injected into the food that was around 3000 years ago, if they could survive on nature's food, then so can we.
>>72530449
>not being a part-time self-sufficient small farmer, completely bypassing this problem
you normies are such plebs.
>>72530449
Monsanto got huge because you cheap fucks didnt fund your public universities so that you could get the seed for free dumb asses. Also monsanto is paying for my grad school and giving me spending money for rent and food in grad school. If you want to complain about monsanto donate $100 to public ag universities faggot
>>72530449
https://soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/thank-you-doc
>>72535777
Making homemade dressings with olive oil or plain cream is super easy.
>U.S gov, payments to mcdonalds average 1.2billion per year. This makes up to around 25% of the companies annual profits
>McDonald pays its working minimum wage and to avoid having to pay those workers benifits it focuses on giving part time employment.
>this contributes to a poverty rate of 16% among US fast food workers.
>Fortunately(?) for its workers mcdonalds offers a telephone service instructing its workers on how to apply for welfare
>Uses its political influence to increase its profits at the expense of people's health and the social conditions of its workers. McDonald's advertisement techniques targets children
>McDonald's pleaded guilty to five charges relating to the employment of children under 15
>In 2001, the company was fined £12,400 by British magistrates for illegally employing and over-working child labor in one of its London restaurants
>>72535958
Are you retarded?
That was rhetorical, by the way.
Since you know, you're stupid as fuck.
>>72536106
>monsanto is bribing me so they aren't complete jews, donate money goyim.
cmon now
>>72530449
>>72530645
What about Miracle-Gro? What is bad with them? They're only in business with Monsanto for RoundUp
There are tons of other companies that sell seeds too, from Burpee to Ferry-Morse to random organic companies.
>>72536106
>webm
kek
niggers need to be put back in chains.
>>72535795
the whole POINT is that yes illegal immigration, illegal workers are a bad thing but they are a seperated issue
if you change your whole economy, restrict the market and basically go further away from the free market than before just because you have some illegals currently ruining it america is doomed in the long run
short term solutions are never a good thing
Its not the 50's anymore where the US basically has no competition.
Nowadays you have strong economies like the chinese one, european union and to a certain extend india. They all have the power to rival the US on a global scale economically. Denying this is just being dumb.
What is Trump going to do? Force companies like Nike that settled down in Vietnam or Bangladesh to come back to US soil and if they dont literally remove Nike products from the US market by taxing them so high it makes no sense for them to sell them anymore?
Good one ... Heavy government inteference into an economy is always a bad thing thats why Bernie and Trump are so similiar on Trade.
Here's another red pill. God forbade certain foods for a reason. Disregard the "law" part of it, and look at the reasons given as far as the functions of the forbidden animals. Pigs, and bottom feeders and such are the cleanup crew of the earth, along with predatory birds and wildlife. When we start to eat some of them, or kill them off, we are throwing nature's balance off. Toxins that would have been removed by them now end up in our food, and we get sick.
http://www.offthegridnews.com/off-grid-foods/gods-dietary-laws-why-pigs-crabs-and-lobsters-are-bad-for-you/
>>72536327
>Miracle gro
sorry bro
>The company sold illegally treated bird food for two years before it voluntarily recalled the products in March 2008
>illegally including insecticides in bird food products
>The company also submitted false documents to the EPA and to state agencies in an attempt to deceive them
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/10/scotts-miracle-gro-violations-criminal-fines_n_1865933.html
le monsanto conspiracy xD
le evil corboration xDD
>>72536843
Yeah, every corporation should be considered evil, /pol/ just doesn't look into all of them
>>72536843
im not saying they're evil, all im doing is airing out the jewish laundry
>>72535929
>believing that survival of the fittest isn't a part of our nature, even though we have the means to evade it.
>>72537016
>believing that survival of the fittest isn't a part of our nature
we haven't been apart of nature for at least 100+ years
>>72535929
Actally it is very easy to make you look retarded.
1 man has an alergy problem with, let's say pollen from random trees.
Another man, DOESN'T have this genetical weakness.
Which one of these men would be better to reproduce if the goal was to have resillent children?
It's so obvious. If medical treatment weren't a thing today, only the strongest and the most resillent humans would walk the earth, but today we have a mixed people with loads of genetical weaknesses just due to the fact that they have been saved.
I'm not saying that we should kill the genetically inferior, by all means no of course not, I'm just pointing out a fact.
>>72537257
we have become so technologically advanced that natural laws dont apply to us
>>72535023
lol please. Government intervention is the only reason things aren't even worse than they are. Maybe things were never like this in Sweden but here, up until Teddy stepped in, your employer could basically murder you and get away with it.
Frankly the real problem is simply a human population so high that it requires vicious industrial practices like this to sustain itself.
>>72537182
What the fuck does that even mean? Just because we live in cities doesn't mean that we aren't apart of nature. What ever way you look at it, we are animals, just like any bear, cat, dog or stingray. The only difference is that we have a much higher brain capacity than the other animals (Except from Dolphins, those can come close to our intelligence and capacity, had they not been limited by their water apapted limbs) We eat, we sleep we drink and we shit, we mate and we drink milk from our mothers when we're babies, just like EVERY other fucking animals, (Expet from those that doesn't drink milk from their mothers, I forgot the term).
Survival of the fittest is a thing in the animal life, and it really is a thing in our human life aswel, we have just went against nature with our lifesaving medical care.
Monsanto is doing good for all of us.
>>72537359
Refer to >>72537543
It's not that natural laws don't apply for us, (Which is a very retarded thing to say by the way)
It's that we have the means to go against it, in some regards, such as life saving medical care.
>>72537257
Why don't we go back to live in caves and dying in our 30s. Thinking like that would have helped to counter pandemics like the spanish flu or the black death.
>>72536843
cuck
>>72537523
that has nothing to do with government, it has all to do with the laws in place
government =/= laws
until you learn this, we will not be able to have a meaningful discussion
>For a change in direction, let's hit up 'the most evil corporation IN HISTORY' -- which was totally the East India Company. You think United Fruit was bad for getting a few marines sent to Central America? These guys manufactured wars with India, Burma and China. You think Nestlé is bad for sucking up all the water in some African regions and selling it back to them? These guys literally had their own beer created (India Pale Ale) that they used to destroy India's native water replenishment. You think Bayer is bad for selling bad drugs infected with HIV? These guys addicted the entirety of the Chinese population to opium so that they could have a monopoly.
>They owned an army, owned land, and were slavers extraordinaire. They trafficked drugs, guns, people, and resources cheerfully certain that Asians were subhuman anyway so it didn't matter.
>They directed policy, founded colonies, and conquered an entire continent -- in addition to being far and away the richest and most powerful corporation in history, they've probably had the biggest impact on world history of any company.
>Only disbanded after the British Empire assumed direct control of India after the Company's mismanagement caused widespread revolts and massacres -- they finally filed for bankruptcy after the government essentially had them nationalised.
this is from the last thread we had on corporations
>>72537652
thanks for keeping the thread going
>>72537758
Refer to this, this explains why you're retarded. >>72537543
>>72537819
Always on the job for calling out retards when I see one!
>>72537797
Government is the source of law., It writes law. It enforces law.
Why am I even responding to you.
>>72537857
no it doesn't. Why don't you leave your home and go to live in the woods already?
>>72530449
nobody is stopping you from buying some land and growing your own food. now stop complaining like a little bitch.
>>72537989
yes, but once the laws are in place, the government should never interfere, ESPECIALLY the market
less government and taxes -> more economic growth
>>72538113
Why don't give me some good points on why we're magically not apart of nature.
Look man, I know you're like 12 years old, but atleast try to act a bit Un-retarded when you are on a grown up board.
>>72531066
>live in VA where Smithfield is headquartered.
Feels bad man.
>live in VA where Edward's is headquartered
Feels great man.
>>72538160
What the fuck are you even saying you lolbertarian retard. Laws are government intervention.
>muh economic growth
cuck.
Don't bother responding.
>>72538416
no, laws are not government intervention.
you mentioned that an employer could basically kill their own employess and get away with it
your solution would be to add more government or to legalise it to stop murder being legal?
it's pretty simple but when all the burger gets between your neurons it can be hard to comprehend simple concepts
>>72538416
Goverment corporate cuck who listen to everything the man says.
I bet you support the war on drugs aswel. Fucking retards.
It's crazy when some $1 street meat in Thailand tastes better than anything you can buy in NA. Get rid of this fake ass shit.
>>72531066
Damn that's disgusting.
>>72537819
Also, thank you OP for pointing out how fucked up these big corporations are.
>>72530449
Friendly reminder Monsanto (formerly DOW chemical) is run by Jews.
Friendly reminder that any and all GMO products are listed as NON-KOSHER. There is a reason for this, and its because this shit is designed to fuck you up.
Nice thread, fact-based discussion. Really brings out the shills though...
Long Live!!!
I'm not going to defend or attack Monsanto, but let's set them aside and focus on genetically modified food. I must admit I'm confused by the hate lobbied against GMOs.
In the past when we would breed plants, we were shotgunning it with respect to the genes. With modern genetics we can be more precise.
Yes this may mean bringing in genes that may be particularly difficult to find in the given species or may not be in the given species, but so the fuck what? We're not doing it for the heck of it, and we know what these genes are when we do it.
What do we do it for?
Increasing yield feeds more people.
Increasing pest resistance allows us to use less chemicals.
Increasing nutritional content improves the health of those consuming the given plant. For some, as with golden rice, this is heaven sent.
What we have is a bunch of "natural must be better" idiots who don't understand genetics or history, but all think they do, whining about imaginary bad guys in a lab somewhere. It's by definition a first world problem, because in third world countries you don't whine about what feeds you.
>>72540294
muslims cant eat that stuff either, how is it that even mudslimes know the danger of GMO foods and unnaturally grown animals
>>72540385
It's a little bit more about the shit ton of pesticides not the grade 12 arguing omg gmo's un-naturaal
>>72540385
>because in third world countries you don't whine about what feeds you.
except you do when monsanto privatizes the agricultural business and creates a monopoly in your nation and does anything in their power to make sure you're not with a nationalized product
>constantly flip flopped on the harmfullness CFC's until NASA called you out
>contaminated washington west virginia's water supply with Teflon-processing aid perfluoro-octanoic acid aka c8 which causes kidney cancer, testicular cancer, thyroid disease, high cholesterol, pre-eclampsia and ulcerative colitis
>thousands of people have taken them to court over this, and it turns out they knew about the direct correlation between cancer and c8 years beforehand
>In 2005, the company plead guilty to fixing prices of chemicals and products using neoprene, a synthetic rubber
>>72541327
Hey guy, I know a lot of people might not be paying attention or anything but what Monsanto does to food and animals is absolutely bananas and it's guaranteed if masses weren't so subservient they would walk over to their headquarters and hang the people in charge by neck until dead.
>>72535777
ethanol breaks down motors with rubber gaskets and debris in them because it dissolves them. It actually makes them run better but if the engine is old or poorly maintained then the chunks of crap it works loose get caught in valves or filters and jam up the flow, like an embolism.
>>72541327
keep up the good work btw /thanks
According to the EPA, Dow has some responsibility for 96 of the United States' Superfund toxic waste sites, placing it in 10th place by number of sites. One of these, a former UCC uranium and vanadium processing facility near Uravan, Colorado, is listed as the sole responsibility of Dow
>actually merged with Dow and now can access a substantial cut of 3 different industries
>>72541929
this is all from wikipedia if you're really interested, im just compiling them
>>72540385
>Increasing yield feeds more people.
Increasing pest resistance allows us to use less chemicals.
Increasing nutritional content improves the health of those consuming the given plant. For some, as with golden rice, this is heaven sent.
When you realize the people who come up with these projections are the same people who watch HWIYM and post Bill Nye quotes on Reddit you'll start questioning this shit too.
People are fucking retarded and they have no humility, that's why 'natural must be better' has some merit.
Just go out and look at the built environment where you live and ask yourself whether you would prefer to take a walk in a forest designed by Steve Jobs or some cucked architect (pic related for example), OR one that just kinda happened. D
Sometimes humans are worse than pure chance... Once genetically engineered plants catch on we will begin to retroactively erase the richness of the planet that we, as a race, were conceived on. GMOs, as you understand, outcompete natural plants and there are no sensible solutions to containing the seeds if you intend to grow them on an industrial scale. Essentially it's trading the natural world, which we don't really yet understand, for maxing out at 12 billion people instead of 11 and making some money for elderly men. And one day when you walk outside, instead of seeing oaks and rhododendrons that have 100,000s years (up to millions of years) history on the planet, you'll see 'McTree' copyright 2140, designed by some art school faggot who hasn't worked a day in his life and will certainly be forgotten within 100 years.
You don't see the scale of GMO, because it creeps in on you as a way to 'feed the people'. Shortsightedness
>>72541987
let's keep going on DOW
>On the night of December 3rd, 1984, thousands suffocated from 27 tons of methyl isocyanate that leaked out of Union Carbide’s pesticides plant . At least 3,000 people were killed that night, several thousand more in the following nights, and yet more in the years to come.
>People neighboring the site depend on pumped ground water for all their water needs. Consequently, the negligence of UCC has led to extremely high rates of cancer, children born with physical and mental disabilities, and women with severe reproductive problems.
>What’s happening now? Almost a quarter of a century later, the gas and water-affected people have still not received adequate financial compensation, medical treatment, or clean drinking water. Survivors have condemned the Indian government for their inaction.
>because they didn't like the boycott they got from manufacturing napalm so now they strictly make chemicals that make products
>Dow Chemical Company spent $10,650,000 on lobbying in 2013. Nineteen out of the 33 (58%) lobbyists employed by Dow Chemical previously held government jobs. The top issues lobbied were Energy & Nuclear Power, Environment & Superfund, Agriculture, Taxes, and Manufacturing.
>The Dow Chemical company controls a political action committee that has been active in every election cycle since 1990.
>As of the first quarter of 2014, Dow Chemical had given $632,940 to federal candidates and groups. This included over $100,000 to the Republican Governor's Association and large sums to the National Republican Senatorial Committee and Republican State Leadership Committee.
>Dow gave $1.45 million to federal candidates in the 2012 election cycle, with 68% going to Republicans
>>72533388
You do realize Europe imports a lot of grain from North America right? You also use the same fucking seeds for the shit you grow
>>72543640
What do I care if we use the same seeds? In the current situation I'm mostly worried about pesticides and processing (especially meat processing) , in this regard Europe is still alot better.
>Burger King has stood firm and said no" to a demand from the Coalition of Immokalee Workers (CIW) that the company pay a penny more per pound for its tomatoes. That would double (tomato pickers') wages and cost BK $250,000 a year. ...Just after Thanksgiving of 2007, the Florida tomato pickers held a large rally outside Burger King headquarters in Miami. Now it's surfaced that three weeks later, BK sent a note to suppliers saying it may no longer buy tomatoes from south western Florida."
>VP created a fake profile to talk shit about the CJW on youtube under the name activist2008 or surfxaholic36
>spied on farms by using "a woman using the name of Cara Schaffer contacted the Student/Farmworker
Alliance, under the guise of a student at Broward Community College. Although her eagerness aroused suspicions, she was allowed to participate in two planning sessions. Internet searches revealed that she was not a college student, but the owner of the firm Diplomatic Tactical Services.
>a Burger King executive told me that the company had worked with Diplomatic Tactical Services for years on 'security-related matters' and had used it to obtain information about the Student/Farmworker Alliance’s plans -- in order to prevent acts of violence. 'It is both the corporation’s right and duty,' a company spokesman later wrote in an e-mail message to me, 'to protect its employees and assets from potential harm.'
Burger King spent $135,289 for lobbying in 2010. $53,000 went to two outside lobbying firms with the remainder being spent using in-house lobbyists.
>>72530449
>mfw my diet consists of magic mushrooms, hemp seeds, and san pedro cactus
>also lizards and birds that I catch
Living in the desert is fun
>>72543909
The pesticides are also mostly the same. Roundup is pretty much the most widely used chemical on the planet
I'm allergic to monsanto vegetables. Any time I eat something that I haven't grown myself or purchased at a farmers market...
I start to projectile vomit and have blinding migraines for HOURS.
Fuck monsanto. Monsanto has made my life a fucking living hell.
>>72544504
Seems legit
>>72543909
IIRC the seeds are tainted in some way (as in, have pesticides/chemical nature ingrained in the seeds themselves), but I could be wrong. If they are "tainted" they should be fine as long as you wait a few plant generations to eat them.
Again, I could be wrong so take with grain of salt, friend.
>>72530449
You can thank the free market for this :^)
>>72544586
No genetically modified seeds will always be "tainted" which is why Monsanto sues the fuck out if any farmer that dares to save part of his crop to replant
Also those seeds generally just get mixed in with everything GMO or not. The only exception is certified organic but that's a pretty small part of the grain market
>>72536189
Lets add on to this
> International Franchise Association (IFA), a U.S.-based trade group for franchisers, and as of 2014 had a representative on the IFA's Executive Board. The IFA lobbies for laws and policies favorable to franchisers, including opposing the NLRB joint-employer rule, fighting various provisions of the Affordable Care Act, and opposing efforts to raise the minimum wage.
>McDonald's is also a member of the National Restaurant Association (NRA), a restaurant industry trade group that has been heavily involved in campaigns against the joint employer rule, the Affordable Care Act, paid sick leave, raising the minimum wage, and other campaigns against raising jobs standards for workers. The NRA is a member of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC).
>CEO pay rose 580 times while employee wages stagnated
>makes employees work off the clock, unpaid and even go as far as taking hours off the timecard
>requires employees to pay for their uniforms, which subsequently lowers their wages
>refuses to give employees basic safety equipment when handling hot food and burning yourself while on the job is so commonplace that once an employee was told to put mayonnaise on a burn scar
>pushed hard to pay teenagers less than minimum wage, who make up the bulk of their workforce
>In 1972, as the Nixon administration pushed for the inclusion of a "subminimum" wage for teenagers in a new minimum wage bill, Sen. Harrison Williams (D-NJ) noted that McDonald's founder Ray Kroc had made a $255,000,now 1.5 million in contribution to Nixon's re-election campaign
>fought hard against proposition 72, which would require employers to give minimum wage employees health benefits alongside other big service sector corps.
continuing
>>72535777
Don't use vegetable oils except olive and coconut, and olive for salads only.
>>72545500
>fought hard against nutritional labeling in the 70's and in 2006 you were only allowed to see the caloric value of a sandwich after you've bought it
>does everything in their power to make sure no one can see the nutritional value of their food
>claims to be for animal welfare while giving their chickens .55 of a square foot of breathing room and allows 5 in every 100 cows to be fully conscious when dismembered and skinned
>PETA tried countless times to get mcdonalds to stop torturing the animals when killing them, they responded by continuing to insist in counter campaigning that "industry practice" only seemed cruel to the "inexperienced observer" and was actually "for the animals own good". Furthermore, their critics "simply did not understand animal welfare".
>McDonald's PAC spent a total of $1,071,627, including $735,875 to individual candidates, at the federal level in the 2014 election cycle. Of candidate contributions, 55 percent went to Republicans and 45 percent to Democrats
>McDonald's reported $2.1 million in federal lobbying spending in 2014
>>72531095
>the companies get rid of the pig shit by spraying it into their air and letting americans breathe it in
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
So this is what americans are talking about when they say they're inhaling that fresh freedom in the air!
okay everyone im done for now, i'll probably put another thread like this up in a couple days
>>72545500
>requires employees to pay for their uniforms, which subsequently lowers their wages
This is commonplace for most retail/restaurant jobs. It puts a dent in your first paycheck, but after that, it isn't a big deal.
>>72530950
>funded the apartheid
Good.
I love these threads, Monsanto probably has the most aggressive shill team I've ever seen.
