http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/262293,Polish-resistance-veterans-sue-German-public-TV
>A lawsuit over a controversial German mini-series that depicts Polish underground fighters in WWII as being anti-Semitic kicked off on Monday in a district court in Kraków, southern Poland
>The case against German public television channel ZDF and producers UFA Fiction has been brought by Zbigniew Radłowski, a 92-year-old veteran of the Home Army (AK), and an international association of former AK soldiers
>They say the series contains scenes suggesting the Home Army was complicit in crimes against Jews, while Germans are presented as the victims of World War II
>They are demanding an apology on all television channels which screened the series, or for the first broadcast on other channels that bought the drama to be preceded by a statement that Germans were the only nation guilty for the Holocaust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZHqbzyDcRs
>>81589134
Why do they care if they're portrayed as anti-Semitic? Would anyone in Poland think less of them if they were?
>>81589315
Because it's basically not true and pure propaganda.
Home Army never displayed any anti-semitic behaviours, in fact, they helped with hiding Jews from Germans and cooperated with Jewish Combat Organization.
Germans are trying to whitewash themselves, while portraying Poles as the bad guys.
>>81590003
#Never5get
Polish were extremely antisemitic at the time, just like everybody else except the Anglos.
Also:
>Fake story following a handfull of people
>They say all Polish freedom fighters were antisemitic
And all Jews fled to Poland and survived the Holocaust? All German women were nurses?
Polish butthurt at its finest
Stop whining Poland jesus fuck.
What if Germany would sue the other way around for all the inaccuracies over Germans you have shown on TV ?
You would have to scrub German toilets until you are 80 just to pay off those reparations.
>>81589134
yeah germans are always like that. very evil people, the scum of this planet
>>81590293
>Polish were extremely antisemitic at the time
Doesn't matter, the show still portrays shit that didn't happen.
>>They say all Polish freedom fighters were antisemitic
There is only one group of Polish parisans that appears in the show, and they are portrayed as a bunch of illiterate, anti-semitic, greedy bigots. If this isn't a propaganda, then I don't know what is.
>all the inaccuracies over Germans you have shown on TV
Which exactly?
>>81590293
One of the Polish guys literally says "we'll drown Jews like a bunch of cats", I'm pretty sure it happened irl.
>>81591074
>bunch of illiterate, anti-semitic, greedy bigots
Sounds like all the Poles I know
Didn't Poles also get incredibly butthurt over "Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter" or was that other people?
>>81589134
>>81590003
>>81590141
Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMs1dwNu_eI
>>81591074
>Polish parisans that appears in the show, and they are portrayed as a bunch of illiterate, anti-semitic, greedy bigots.
To be perfectly fair, that's kinda how it actually was? Members of the polish resistance cracked down on and lynched a whole fuckload of jews in 1946 before the commies could clamp down
also
>polish
>illiterate
>polish
>greedy
I dunno man sounds about right
>>81591399
"Generation War" is the English name of "Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter".
>>81591556
Ah ok
The Kielce Pogrom was an outbreak of violence against the Jewish community centre's gathering of refugees in the city of Kielce, Poland on 4 July 1946 by the Polish Communist armed forces (LWP, KBW) and plain-clothed agents in the presence of a crowd of onlookers, which resulted in the killing of 42 Jews.[1] Polish Communist courts later tried and condemned nine people to death in connection with the incident.
As the deadliest pogrom against Polish Jews after the Second World War, the incident was a significant point in the post-war history of Jews in Poland. It took place only a year after the end of the Second World War and the Holocaust, shocking Jews in Poland, Poles, and the international community. It has been considered a catalyst for the flight from Poland of most remaining Polish Jews who had survived the Holocaust
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielce_pogrom
are they trying yet again to convince people that the holocaust happened.
>>81591514
>Members of the polish resistance cracked down on and lynched a whole fuckload of jews in 1946 before the commies could clamp down
What the fuck are you talking about
>I dunno man sounds about right
Well then you know shit about history.
Most of Home Army members were well educated, patriotic young people, often former members of the Boy Scout Association.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadeusz_Zawadzki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Bytnar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Rowecki
Besides, it's the alleged "antisemitism" that is the main issue here.
>>81589134
Why can't they handle the banter?
Who cares?
>>81591695
>by the Polish Communist armed forces (LWP, KBW) and plain-clothed agents in the presence of a crowd of onlookers
Yeah, exactly. By them, not by the Home Army - member of which, by the way, they were hunting down, imprisoning and murdering.
So what does event caused by Soviet lapdog commies after WW2 have in common with war-time Home Army?
>>81592146
Prov it wasnt like that then complain.
>>81589134
But there were many anti semites amongst them....even after the war Poles killed jews in progroms, e.g. in Kielce.
>>81591074
>bunch of illiterate, anti-semitic, greedy bigots
Isn't this the normal Polak?
>>81589134
Is it a good series?
English subtitles?
>>81593217
It shows why Germany invaded Poland, they were pretty anticivilizing and barbaric.
>>81589134
>the fucking greasy kikes in Germany are portraying us as anti-semitic
How fucking dare you?
old poles still butthurt about ww2
As if Hitler didn't give them like 6 fucking years to ally with him
>>81593217
I thought it was great.
>>81591405
Kekkles
>>81592030
It happened, just not the way Jewish media portray it. Half of victims were Poles.
Gib reparation money, Hans.
>>81594082
>WE WUZ KILLED
>>81589134
With good reason,they've basically slandered the Polish side to the point of no return,claiming that the Germans were just "doing their duty" while the Polish were the unsung deviants and hateful partisans.
My grandparents survived the war.
They were from Krakow.
They said that the German army that came to Poland were trying to help the Jews by taking them to Palestine, but the Polish Home Army insisted that they gas them instead.
The Germans fought the Home Army bravely for a couple of weeks - often hiding and shielding Jews - but the Polish managed to capture a lot of Jews and then sent them to Auschwitz.
Fuck the Poles.
>>81592529
I do.
>>81594452
>claiming that the Germans were just "doing their duty" while the Polish were the unsung deviants and hateful partisans.
I don't see the problem here
>>81591074
You spout shit that didnt happen all the time
Like germany started the war and your people werent harrassing and terrorizing the local germans which you occupied
Its your own medicine
>>81589315
that part of the resistance literally dindu nuffin
Yes the Germans were unsung angels who gave candy to the children and bread to the common man.
This is what they want us to believe. top kek.
>>81590429
Pretty much this.
Poles were anti Semitic lol
It was common all over the place back then
>>81590429
get fucked we won the war (on paper) so we get to be white knights in media
>>81589134
They turned on the propaganda machine after a conservative party won in your elections. Enjoy
Christ the arrogance of these German swine.
>>81590141
Let me fix that for you
>work camps
>the employer and the employee
Working is a far worse fate for a Jew than death.
>>81595087
Thats true but the butthurt happens because they depict the resistance as anti-semitic and those guys played fair, unlike soviets, germans, ukies, commie resistance and far right resistance. It's a bit like blaming Rommel for Auschwitz
>>81595298
Arbeit macht frei
>>81594986
>Germany
>Portraying themselves as angels
There is no other group in the world that demonize Germans more than Germans
>>81591514
>sounds about right
Because you're historically illiterate.
>>81592992
The burden of proofs lies with you, not me, friend.
>>81593137
>But there were many anti semites amongst them
Again, bullshit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Army#Relations_with_Jews
>after the war Poles killed jews in progroms, e.g. in Kielce
Kielce was carried out by commies, who also were against the Home Army. See >>81592855
What other "pogroms" were there?
>>81593431
Hitler wanted an "alliance" in exchange for giving him neutral Gdańsk and a vast chunk of Polish land between Germany and Prussia. Only cuck would agree for such terms.
>>81589315
Germans are trying to imply Poles were just as bad as them while simultaneously showing Germans as victims of the war. It's pure bullshit. it's like showing innocent German family get blown up by Yugoslav partisans - it's just propaganda.
>>81594712
>harassing and terrorizing the local Germans which you occupied
A a fabricated claim which was published by Hitler who needed to invent a solid to justify the impending invasion of Poland.
>>81595683
It's Danzig
>>81589134
>poland: best friend of the jews
>>81590429
>What if Germany would sue the other way around for all the inaccuracies over Germans you have shown on TV
And in return,they've sue them for causing the death of 6.5 million ethnic Poles and the destruction of 63% of all of their material property
Also,which inaccuracies did you have in mind?
>>81589134
>while Germans are presented as the victims of World War II
I haven't seen the actual thing, but there's no way public broadcasters like ZDF would depict WW2 Germans as innocent or victims in relation to muh sacred six gorillion nevar forget!
Probably just a misunderstanding with a single ambiguous scene about pollacks being pollacks.
>>81594478
Monsters. I hope that one of these days, Poles will pay for their terrible crimes.
>>81594712
>germany started the war
It obviously were Poles who started full-scaled invasion on poor innocent Germany.
>your people werent harrassing and terrorizing the local germans
[citation needed]
>>81595809
It's Кaлинингpaд.
>>81595809
Not anymore :^)
>>81590429
>What if Germany would sue the other way around for all the inaccuracies over Germans you have shown on TV ?
Germany literally destroyed Poland worse than ISIS destroyed Syria and killed around a third of all people in Poland. Even if all the possible lawsuits were filed Poland would always win in the end.
>>81596008
>Кaлинингpaд.
That's Königsberg
>Poland is one of the only countries to openly butt blast the EU for its undemocratic structure, lack of accountability, and its failure to properly handle crises.
>The media is in bed with EU politicians
>Suddenly new TV show makes Poles look like the bad guys of WWII
HHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>81594478
this. the truth needs to come out
>>81590293
>>81591399
>>81592030
>>81592992
>>81593137
>>81593206
ITT: Various Malte-Sorens busy defending some shitty JewDF show while Achmed and Mehmet fuck their girlfriends
>>81595298
>the employer
Yeah, except that Poles and Jews didn't really choose to be put in them.
I know you Stormfags were brainwashed by the Jewish media, but you have to realize that Catholic Poles were murdered in camps as well. Including the Polish nationalists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Rybarski
>>81589660
>implying everything seen in Sophie's Choice, Schindler's List, Band of Brothers, Saving Pvt. Ryan, The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas etc. isn't pure propaganda
Wew.
>>81590293
>hate Jews so much that invites millions of Arabs to his fatherland just to kill the aftertaste
>acuses others of being 'anti-semitic' and butthurt
holy fuck
>>81596084
>killed around a third of all people in Poland
that was soviets
>>81596254
what the fuck does stormfag mean anymore
>>81596255
>Croat defending Germans
Dobar horvat, dobar horvat, Herr Fritz ce biti zadovoljan tobom
>>81596222
See >>81596148 , Malte.
I mean yeah, only the germans hated the jews.
>>81594986
are you fucking stupid? have you seen even the movie? It's typical anti german propaganda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE5AERj_7ZsPoles are only butthurt because it shows them not as heroic, humble people (e.g. no propaganda)
>>81595809
I can't seem to find that city on the map... Did you perhaps mean Gdansk?
>>81593293
No,it just shows your overly dramatic point of view,which always tends to be debunked and in return,that leads your people to believe that they've "once again been wronged who're threatened by your superiority".
>>81593431
You call an offer of submission an "offer of alliance" ?
>>81595809
Founded and originally inhabited by Poles.Also,I wouldn't got that far to correct the nomenclature of Polish cities,given the fact that you've illegally settled all Wendish cities in Eastern and Central Germany.
>>81596254
So? Several teachers, professors from every occupied zone were put into work camps. Considerably more than jews.
>>81591074
>There is only one group of Polish parisans that appears in the show, and they are portrayed as a bunch of illiterate, anti-semitic, greedy bigots.
So what's the problem?
>>81590003
>>81590141
Lel, our jews tried the same exact thing in Hungary, telling us we were the real perpetrators of the holocaust and not the germans.
>>81595098
As a fellow "winner", let me tell you that it does not work that way.
America and Russia won. Europe lost. We simply bought ourselves a few less genocides and destroyed cities by collaborating.
>>81596365
Janezek na počitncah :^)
>>81596401
Nobody says that, but what this show portrays is pure bullshit and propaganda. See >>81595540
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Army#Relations_with_Jews
Home Army was helping with hiding the Jews from Germans, having them in their ranks and cooperating with Jewish Combat Organization.
>>81594986
>Yes the Germans were unsung angels who gave candy to the children and bread to the common man.
Well, that *is* how they acted during the early occupation, when they were still all like "brother aryans" and whatnot. Then the Americans came, and did the same.
>>81596148
>>81596386
Pathetic.
If you can't do the time - don't commit the crime, Poland.
Ridiculous that the Germans get blamed for the genocide of Jews, while the Poles get off scot-free.
>>81591405
are those proto-SJW´s?
>>81596254
>Stormfags were brainwashed by the Jewish media,
Stormfags hate the Jews
>>81594712
>harrassing and terrorizing the local germans
sounds like Merkek goverment, I thought you are into SM?
>>81589134
tfw 1 have 2/3 of this god-like movie but the 3rd broke
You poles were antisemitic though i dont get the problem who cares
>>81596148
The poles WERE the bad guys in WWII though.
if not for their stubbornness and our politicians ignorance, WWII probably wouldn't have even begun.
>>81596536
>Several teachers, professors from every occupied zone were put into work camps
Germans attempted to literally wipe out the Polish intellectual elites. They murdered thousands of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligenzaktion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_AB-Aktion_in_Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmiry_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderaktion_Krakau
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_in_Pia%C5%9Bnica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Lviv_professors
>>81596865
>Stormfags hate the Jews
Yet they buy their vision of "Holocaust", and desperately try to prove it never happened just because they hate da Joos.
The truth is that Holocaust and mass killing in camps took place, but half the of victims were Polish, not Jewish.
>>81596148
movie is older than the recent polish government you fuck.
>>81596970
Because intellectuals, public figures who don't adhere to the regime etc. are all enemies to the occupying regime. Of course he put them to death. He did the same in Germany.
Erdogan is doing the same thing in Turkey, albeit he's less blunt about it.
>>81596970
And then the liberators came and did the same.
>>81596968
british were the bad guys, without you cunts poland would have probably aligned itself to germany, usa would have a much harder time invading/less pretext to invade and the soviets would have been cut down before they got organized
>>81593431
Not only did Hitler wanted Poles to submit to him Hitler wanted to completely erase Poles and make it like they never even existed. During the entire war only time Germans ever used the word Poland was during the September and October 1939 campaign into Poland, otherwise it was always either Greater Germany or General Government (that wasn't in any way implied to be Polish)
>>81596580
If you show your enemies as bigots they win.
>>81596580
>So what's the problem?
That it's a lie.
Hey Poles, when you are so jew loving, why don't you settle jews in krakow and all the other areas that were cleaned of them?
>Implying you don't thank us for taking the trash out.
Man, finally Germany makes a good show about WW2, but then the poles sue them.
Can't make this shit up.
>>81597359
Poland suffered more than any other nation except China during WW2 and now Germans are spitting on everything the Poles did and survived. Of course they're upset I'm upset.
>>81594478
really makes you think
>>81597171
If by victims you mean perpetrators, then we can finally agree on something.
>>81597268
I don't disagree with the part we played but
>poland would have probably aligned itself to germany
lol? The whole reason Hitler invaded Poland was because they refused to compromise with the Germans because they did not trust them.
All of Poland's actions leading up to the war was out of fear of being land locked and their sovereignty threatened.
In what possible way could they have been 'aligned' with Germany?
>>81597171
Don't forget us Russians. The Slavic people were, as always, 100% innocent and right.
Honestly if it took you 70 years on the most well discussed and well documented war in history to suddenly find out OMG POLES WERE BAD GUYS TOO THEY HATED JEWS N SHIET you're kidding yourself.
Poland is historically known to have been the one European country that tolerated different religions. They even have an original sect of Polish Muslims who have lived there for hundreds of years. All the Jews escaped fucking Germany to hide in Poland.
Fuck off with your TV Show of NEW TRUTHS and SUDDEN DISCOVERIES
It's literal propaganda to make Hans think he's not the only Nazi out there. Just fucking accept your Nazi title already and move on. Germany all you have to do is say "I'm not sorry" and no one can do anything to you.
>>81597690
My grandparents were in Poland, and my other grandparents were under the tender care of the Japs. And the ones under the Japs definitely had it worse. And the worst thing about hanging out in Poland, were the Soviets, not the Nazis.
In short, you're full of shit.
>>81597690
I thought the wounds might have been healed enough for a controversial series when it first aired, but considering the current political climate in Europe that might no longer be the case.
Even sadder if this becomes some sort of political tool in a modern struggle between Germany and Poland.
>>81597880
Is this where I point out that the word "pogrom" is Polish?
>>81596478
>e.g. no propaganda
"My side was empirically proven to be scum,so that means that everyone else was too"
>>81597690
They played tough and got bitch slapped. Poland was considered a rogue nation in the 30s because of how it treated it's minorities.
Brits never cared for the Poles, all the wanted was a reason for war. Otherwise they would have actually saved Poland after WW2 from the Soviets.
>B-But our history
Jesus fucking christ, stop whining. Worse than fucking SJWs.
AK was the world first large scale terrorist organization. Glad we killed a bunch of them.
>>81589134
>70% of wealth destroyed
>largest anti german conspiracy
>lack of elite continuity, replaced by Soviet stooges
>national industry and banks destroyed through hostile acquisitions and given for free to foreign investors by those stooges
>is depicted by foreign historians as a german collaborator and co-responsible for war crimes
I think that without the Church people of this territory that used to be called "Poland" would just hang themself or murder each other for fun. Sometimes the realization of what this territory is fills me with depression like nothing else can
Of course some people can enjoy their life here, but that's only because they think they can live their lives limited just to their own private, family circle and delude themself that this is sufficient for stability and security, which in the end always proves to be untrue
>>81595756
I bet those yuge slav partisans would do it though.
>>81597232
>Croat still caressing the male German reproductive organ
Do your people have a shred of honor?You're actually worse than the Turk-loving maggots in Bosnia,and that's an achievement in it's own right.
>>81598102
>The Russian word pogrom (пoгpóм, pronounced [pɐˈgrom]) is a noun derived from the verb gromit' (гpoми́ть, pronounced [grɐˈmʲitʲ]) meaning "to destroy, to wreak havoc, to demolish violently". The Slavic term po means "to"[not in citation given], and h/grom means "harm", so the literal translation is "to harm".
Go ahead
If I was a Pole, I would be practicing arson in all synagogues in the country. The people that betrayed the country that sheltered from oppression does not deserve pity nor comprehension.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Woli%C5%84ska-Brus
The Polish dindu nufin
>>81589134
Fuck germoney media and their goat fucking propaganda
>>81596478
Thats because they have this brainwashing programm runing now.
Staat fundet.
Figth propaganda with facts and own propaganda.
Pooland is doing the same shit soviets and russians do with history.
Make shit up.
>>81597816
We've never claimed that we, were,matter of fact,we've never in all of our recorded history suffered from illusions of grandeur such as your kind has.
We weren't 100% pure,but we were a significantly lesser evil than you were.
>>81596358
>what the fuck does stormfag mean anymore
far-leftists who like hitler
jews kinda deserved it,the poles didnt tbqh
>>81597232
>Because intellectuals, public figures who don't adhere to the regime etc. are all enemies to the occupying regime
So murdering them en masse is justified? I see.
It's not like it was the only crime Germans committed against us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Warsaw_in_World_War_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_destruction_of_Warsaw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wola_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawiak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_children_by_Nazi_Germany
Add the fact that about half of Holocaust "Jewish" victims were Polish citizens and Polish Catholics.
>>81597263
>>81597816
Germans and Russians were the same scum, nobody claims otherwise.
>>81598203
>They played tough
By refusing your ridiculous claims of our lands?
>>81598102
>word "pogrom" is Polish?
Because of great amount of Jewish diaspora living in Poland for centuries?
And if Jews felt so opporessed in Poland, why the fuck did they keep living in there?
While they were kicked out of persecuted in most of European countries, in Poland they were given RIGHTS and religious freedom.
>>81595306
>those guys played fair, unlike soviets, germans, ukies, commie resistance and far right resistance
Just listen to yourself. Literally Dindu.
>poland is butthurt
This is not newsworthy.
>>81597785
they had your assurances to back them up, without that it was a choice between giving germany danzig or getting wrecked by commies. not surprised you forgot about that kek, never trust an anglo
>>81589134
Meanwhile, pro-EU Polish shills on /pol/ are still desperately trying to convince us that Russia is still the bad guy.
Eat shit. Thats what you get for sucking EU cock, Piotr.
>>81596614
Same in Lithuania
>>81591074
>they are portrayed as a bunch of illiterate, anti-semitic, greedy bigots
Of course they were. 80% of European population was peasants, were going to school until 12yo max, were going to church every sunday, and the jews were the scapegoat in the entire continent.
And from what I know the Poles are still biggots nowadays...
>>81598787
>get cucked by soviets for 45 years
>still suck their cock till this day
The National Socialists were the saviors of Europe. The loss of them was the loss of Europe.
Prove me wrong.
>>81589134
>Israeli TV channels apologize to the polands
You be surprised how many muh holocuast story my grandmother have to tell about the anti semitism she suffered by the poles.
Essentially poles repeat the buthurt of Ukrainians.
Where Ukrainians try to pretend bandit mass murderer, ethnic cleanser of Poles, sadist Bandera was "national hero fighting for freedom".
There Poles try to pretend that the bandit terrorist anti-semites, robbers, mass murderers or own people and ethnic cleansers of Ukrainians AK were "educated civil angels liberating own country".
The funny part when both countries buthurt collides.
>>81598942
>And if Jews felt so opporessed in Poland, why the fuck did they keep living in there?
I keep asking myself that question about niggers and muslims, honestly.
Either way, anti-Jewish pogrom happened in Poland. They just did. No use in denying it. No-one but the biggest idiot will blame modern Poles for it. It is simply history.
>>81596614
>>81599142
I'm starting to see a pattern here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky3rDhH4h4o
>>81595956
you should've given danzig
>>81598203
Considered "rogue" by whom?A country whose leader has solidified his power by burning his rivals alive in one of the most important buildings in all of Germany?
>>81599220
they were just german nationalists disguised as pan-europeans
God generation war really was garbage, if it had been from an American perspective /k/ would have ripped it to pieces, but because it follows MUH GLORIOUS WEHRMACHT it gets dickridden to a ludicrous degree.
Its just more "greatest generation" bullshit, I couldn't believe how far out of its way it went to say OH NO, THERE WERE NO NAZIS IN THE GERMAN ARMY, NOPE NONE AT ALL, THEY WERE JUST FIGHTING FOR GERMANY THEY WEREN'T NAZIS. NOW THE POLES THEY WERE ALL FUCKING NAZIS.
I mean I'm sure there were many people in the german army who didn't care for fascism or hate jews, but the majority definitely did.
>>81598658
Someone post the Allied investigated camps infographic
>>81598426
Some have attempted to deploy such tactics and if they did, they were quickly reprimanded and executed for inflicting unnecessary civilian casualties.
>>81589134
Polish and German people, you should unite to kill the jews instead of letting them fight each others.
Anything to make modern white nations fight each others instead of the jews is a ploy by the jews to get more into power.
Kill every jew before they kill you.
>>81593293
You fucking kidding me? We resisted your fucking agression, didn't accepted your terms like Czechs' or even Osterreich, we stood upon fall of our freedom and fail because Brtis and French are fucking pussies. And yet, you, German, "Einwohner" of country that didn't resist fucking painter who killed almost 2mln jews, dare to call Poland "pretty anticivilizing and barbaric"? Fucking hipocrite
The show's called "Unsere Mütter, Unsere Väter", or "Generation War" for burgers and bongs. Best WW2 production I've ever seen. Last time I checked it was on Netflix.
>>81594478
I kek'd, good one xD
>>81598751
>Make shit up
Their claims are actually traceable.
>>81599090
Are you trying to imply that you can't dislike both EU and miserable shithole that Russia has always been simultaneously?
>>81599211
Read the entire thing again, Pierre. It's about the Home Army, which historically was nothing like it was portrayed in this show. It's pure propaganda by Hans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Army#Relations_with_Jews
>>81599426
Gdańsk was a neutral territory, moron. How could have we given it to Hitler?
>>81599275
Again - if Jews were so persecuted by ebil Poles, why did they insist on living in there? See >>81598942
>>81598102
it's Slavic, more precisely Eastern Slavic.
You know, like in belonging to Russian Empire, where tsars literally hated Jewrieys.
Our Jews pretty much were pretty much assimilated by the XIX century, then those Russian guys came and started behaving like ghetto rats.
>>81598942
>ridiculous claims
>Danzig (which wasn't even part of Poland during that time) should return to Germany because the population is 90 % German
>Railway & Autobahn from Germany to Prussia
>For the remaining areas citizens should vote whether they want to remain in Poland or be part of Germany
>Gdynia is excluded from this vote, it will stay Polish anyway, to ensure the Poles have acess to the sea.
what's so ridiculous about it?
>>81599664
Wupping 34k AK died during your "ressistance", that 20times less than compared to actual Ressistance - Yugoslavian one.
AK is known for trying to sit out mostly, hoping Germans would beat soviets - and later for killing civilian Ukrainians and attacking own countrymen that liberated the country along with Soviets and civilians.
>>81599422
>>81599142
>>81596614
>yfw the mainstream media are picking up on our memes again
>>81589660
Every single army the Germans conquered helped capture and transport the kikes
You know why?
They all fucking hated them, for good reason
I don't know if I hate sauerkraut or vodka niggers more.
>>81599220
They were German nationalists disguised as pan-Europeans,which is easily proven by the fact that they've utterly destroyed Europe in the process of "defending her".They're the main reason why Europe has lost most of her geopolitical significance and they're also the main reason why most of this continent has fallen under the indirect control of the United States of America.
>get cucked by Soviets for 45 years
Only because they were spent in World War,your army has destroyed 84% of all of our material property,and you've also caused the death of 43 million Slavs of whom at least 180000 were intellectuals.
>still suck their cock till this day
If it weren't for your Imperial Germany and her Banks,the Bolsheviks would've never taken control over Russia.
>>81599758
its absolute shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLtxQWOvz_k
if you think THIS is the best ww2 production you've ever seen then you obviously haven't seen much
>>81599332
>bandit terrorist anti-semites, robbers, mass murderers or own people and ethnic cleansers of Ukrainians AK
Provide proofs backing these claims or fuck off, you lying inbreed Mongol.
While Bandera and his organisation were directly nationalist and are responsible for Wołyń massacre, AK never did anything of that kind.
>>81599865
No idea, my grandmother is a native polish, said she could trace her family about 100 years earlier.
but ya'know, muh ebin nazis ruined mein data
>>81589134
That's great news. Have it been anyone else, this lawsuit would be retarded, but when we're talking about actual veterans, they have the right to defend against defamation.
>>81600032
Our army wasn't ready to fight against blitzkrieg and yet German army which was trained to attack.
And again Poland at the time was in time of reforms that would make Poland, militaristic gigant, ready to fight German agression back.
We did our best.
And AK guirellia didn't sit back, you can't say that, you could count for hours: assasinations, railway sabotages etc.
And it is known that Polish killed Ukrainian... colaborants, same to Polish colaborants. We are known for being ruthless when it comes to betrayal.
>>81600007
>>Danzig (which wasn't even part of Poland during that time) should return to Germany
Pic related
>the population is 90 % German
Population of Berlin will soon be 90% Muslim, I guess it makes Berlin rightful Turkish clay.
>Railway & Autobahn from Germany to Prussia
Literally no reason for us to give away part of our own land for your railway we wouldn't be able to control.
>For the remaining areas citizens should vote whether they want to remain in Poland or be part of Germany
It already happened after WW1.
>>81599422
The arabian Mufti gave hitler the idea to kill jews
T. Bibi netanyau
>>81596309
So according to you,only 150000 people have lived in Poland?
>>81599448
By the British, French, US, Germany etc. in general all major powers. Mainly because how they were treating their minorities (e.g. 5 million Ukrainians were living in Poland during that time, facing horrible treatment & executions.
Britain & France declared war on Germany not to save Poland, but in order to weaken Germany. They didn't care for Poles, that's why they never helped them during the war and let them get buttraped by soviets after the war.
I don't get why Poles don't shit on Russia/Belorussia/Ukraine 24/7 for holding their territories.
>>81600007
>which wasn't even part of Poland during that time
we cannot give what isn't ours.
>Railway & Autobahn from Germany to Prussia
annex my shit! it's not like Sudetenland=Czechoslovakia
but in German's mind, it is real.
>For the remaining areas citizens should vote whether they want to remain in Poland or be part of Germany
There should be a vote in Germany too. Let's see how much Silesia and Lusatia would vote stay, you fucking Kraut.
I'm glad your nation will die.
>>81600446
Its ironic Pole cry about Propaganda of germans, when he is just a victim of propaganda himself, not realizing he worships the modern myth brought after fall of Soviet Union by new goverments to promote nationalism - same way as Ukrainians worship Bandera now.
AK`s greatest achivements list: terrorism against own people and civilians of other nations, banditism - robberies, extortions, pillaging, assassination of Poles, fighting other Poles.
>>81600837
Actual, "Polish Army", was fighting for their country and ended up storming Berlin among others
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces_in_the_East
"AK" was London based terrorist organization, that sit out most of the action and prominent mostly for crimes it commited - mostly killing Poles and Ukrainians.
>>81597344
We may be thankful, we may be not - that's not the issue here. Rather than that, it's about who wiped them...
>>81599332
Are you really putting UPA and AK in same bag? Are you fucking insane man? I know Russians and Poles hate each others but fuck. Never go full retard.
>>81590293
Finns wasn't antisemitic desu because there was nearly 0 jews here.
>>81600970
>terrorism against own people and civilians of other nations, banditism - robberies, extortions, pillaging, assassination of Poles, fighting other Poles
Again - provide proofs backing these claims in form of wikipedia links or whatever, or fuck off.
And again - comparing Home Army to UPA and OUN is beyond retarded. Home Army was directly commanded by Polish Government in exile and the biggest underground army in occupied Europe.
Bandera and UPA were just a bunch of edgy nationalistic fucks.
>>81601435
Same exact thing. You are just ignorant of the things AK did. In fact, AK was a more effective terrorist organization than Ukrainian ones - since it was more centralized: its no understatement to call it the first in modern sense Terrorist Organization - their activities included everything in the book. Terrorist and not "ressistance" - because their targets were not only non military mostly, but even Polish populace.
>>81601302
I feel dumb, but really dont know what are you talking about
>>81600007
>Danzig (which wasn't even part of Poland during that time) should return to Germany because the population is 90 % German
Because you've forcefully relocated the city's original inhabitants and replaced them with loyalists from neighboring German states
Also,it was the Poles who've originally founded and inhabited it.You're a rather strange people,you complain about immigrants flooding your cities and replacing the natives even though you've been practically doing the same thing all up until the end of World War I.
>>81589134
Why are poles such jew whores? Can't wait until they go after you traitors for enrichment.
>>81594478
>Polish Home Army insisted that they gas them instead.
What? I thought Netanyahu said it was the Palestinians' idea.
>>81601578
Mannerheim said that as long as Jews served in his army he wouldn't hand them over. Many of the very few kikes there actually did help hold the line.
>>81601914
Americans are the biggest Jew whores on the planet, fellow Burgerbro.
>>81600226
>Every single army the Germans conquered helped capture and transport the kikes
Poland didn't.
>>81599638
I don't hate neither Jews nor Germans, personally. I just want them to stop whitewashing their picture and spreading lies about my country in media.
>>81600894
>Britain & France declared war on Germany not to save Poland, but in order to weaken Germany. They didn't care for Poles, that's why they never helped them during the war and let them get butt-raped by soviets after the war.
True,but that still doesn't change the fact that you've committed monstrous crimes against her or are you saying that you've invaded Poland because you've felt it to be your duty to protect the innocent and destitute minorities?
>>81600849
you are fucking stupid, by using your argument (picture) half of your country should be given back to Germany because of historic affiliation. What matters is the population & culture in those cities. Danzig was German at that time, fun fact, the party with the most votes was the national socialist party because the population was desperate back then to join Germany.
>>>Ignoring the fact you took over Zaolzie from Czech Slovakia, which was 70 % polish at that time, with GERMAN help.
>Literally no reason for us to give away part of our own land for your railway we wouldn't be able to control.
You'd get money & save your country from a war that would destroy it. Moreover you would ally with Germany to destroy the Soviet Union and cease territory from them. Sounds pretty good to me. Instead you became a soviet fuckboi.
>It already happened after WW1.
Not for the areas contested. Otherwise Danzig would've never been separated in the first place. Votes were ignored for areas with German majorities.
>>81600894
Well, about that... The other half of Poles that don't shit on Nazis, shit on Ukrainians and UPA
>>81601914
It's so pathetic when americans try to weigh in on european matters. Please take your shitty meme opinion to the nearest Trump thread
>>81602097
>bosniakshit accusing anyone of war crimes.
>>81601302
>Actual, "Polish Army", was fighting for their country and ended up storming Berlin
Oh, ok, now I see who you are.
The Polish Army you're talking about was under Soviet command.
I bet you're one of the types who believe that Soviets "liberated" Europe from Nazism, right?
May I remind you who invided Poland alongside Hitler in 1939? May I remind you who's behind Katyń massacre?
In fact there is an huge controverse in poland right now because a lot of "intellectual" from all over the world are now pushing the idea that the polish population are accomplice and author of the holocaust. But the Pis(new polish gouvernement) denies this version of the history of the WWII. And now a lot of jewish intellectual are buthurt because for them holocaust= All guilty
>>81602289
The world war is, big surprise, a world matter you dumb polishit.
>>81601914
>american
>in charge of deciding who is a jewish whore
toppest of kek 10/10
>>81589134
>Be Polandball
>Have more Righteous Goyim than the rest of the planet combined
>1/4th of the entire population, including most of the intelligentsia and nobility murdered by the Nazis and the Soviets
>Anti-Semtic
>The Eternal Hun thinks he can get away with this
>>81602491
Does that make germany a grandwhore?
>>81602188
No it shouldn't be,because you've illegally acquired it during the partitions of Poland.
>What matters is the population & culture in those cities
Good thing you've forced all those that would pose a threat to your rule
>You'd get money & save your country from a war that would destroy it. Moreover you would ally with Germany to destroy the Soviet Union
"If you refuse to ally with them,I will end your existence"-The diplomacy of a highly developed and clearly superior civilization and people.
>>81602520
>The Eternal Hun
its the jewish media pushing these lies so they can guilt trip the poles into submission
>>81602564
your point?
>>81601865
>German merchant settlers
>About 1235, the town was granted city rights under Lübeck law by Pomerelian duke, Swantopolk II. It was an autonomy charter similar to that of Lübeck, which was also the primary origin of many settlers.
At least stop lying.
>>81589134
Daily Reminder that the Krauts deserved having Dresden and countless other cities burnt to cinders and should be thankful their entire race wasn't massacred at the end of the war by vengeful Slavs.
>>81602353
We've committed them as well,but we're not dishonorable to lie about them never happening.
>>81602453
But it's not about world war, it's about german propaganda. Which by the way, works hand in hand with Israel and american jews to shift the blame on poles. Please unfuck yourself you moronic ape.
>>81589134
>anti-Semitic
this meme needs to die. most jews these days aren't even Semites, and most Semites are muslim.
>>81602188
>by using your argument (picture) half of your country should be given back to Germany because of historic affiliation
Actually, half of your country should belong to the Sorb and Veleti Slavs by using that argument.
>What matters is the population & culture
Yeah, sure thing Hans.
>Invide and wipe out native Slavic and Prussian lands
>It's ours now, it's always been ours!
>Muslims do the same thing to you in 21st century
>Waah, we're victims of Muslim invasion!
Eternal Kraut, ladies and gentlemen.
>you took over Zaolzie from Czech Slovakia
We took it back after they stole it from us in 1920 when we were busy fighting off Soviet invasion.
>You'd get money & save your country from a war that would destroy it
Well, we ended up with reclaiming our western lands and now we are 99% white country. Can't say it played out so badly :^)
>Moreover you would ally with Germany to destroy the Soviet Union and cease territory from them
Well blame Hitler for being a dumbass and demanding things from his "ally".
>Danzig would've never been separated in the first place
Gdańsk was a neutral city, you dummkopf.
>>81602748
>it's the joo media goy!
Nice try Merkel. Or should I say, Fuhrer.
>>81589660
Throughout the whole movie they constantly have scenes of germans executing civilians
>>81600007
>what's so ridiculous about it?
Sudetenland
>>81603115
You know, pre ~1100 areas were so lowly inhabited that you can't say there were borders like in the picture you show. What matters is architecture, Kingdoms & high population. Otherwise they americans can say the moon belongs to them because they were first.
Also not claiming the british Islands are germans because Anglos are from germanic tribes.
>>81603426
Also presenting Germans as heroes who were made to fight for man they hated.
Somwhere about 30% truth
>>81602799
I'm well aware of that,but you seem to have forgotten that the original German,Dutch and Pomeranian inhabitants have openly refused to grant their city's keys to the Prussian ruler,mostly because they didn't want to a part of his country,or any German state for that matter.For good reason too,since the 15th century they've been trying to destroy that city's economic role in the northeastern theater(i.e. the Prussian Confederation).They were even one of the main gather centers during the Great Poland Uprising of 1848.
>>81599220
>>81601302
>mfw filthy Krauts and Rooskies are have turned this entire thread into a Nazi/Commie shillfest.
>>81589134
THEYRE WAKING UP SHUT IT DOWN
>>81596478
>literally smearing little kids' blood on his cheek like that fucking /pol/ meme
c'mon this is just lazy
>>81601302
>>81599220
>>81601827
>>81593293
>mfw filthy fucking Krauts and Rooskies are have turned this entire thread into a Nazi/Commie shillfest.
>>81591074
>the show still portrays shit that didn't happen
Just like every WWII movie/show ever. You only have a problem with it when it happens to you.
>There is only one group of Polish parisans that appears in the show, and they are portrayed as a bunch of illiterate, anti-semitic, greedy bigots. If this isn't a propaganda, then I don't know what is
Poles were just as racist as any other group in Europe. They were entirely complicit with the Germans throughout essentially the entire war. It doesn't bother you that there have been books published about obviously fake scenarios with German soldiers supposedly biting the heads off of Jewish babies or constructing death-rollercoasters in concentration camps, but when someone portrays a pole as an asshole it's suddenly the end of the world?
>Which exactly?
Already mentioned some. You can check out Saving Private Ryan, Schindler's List, Fury, Red Tails, or U-571 for some more hilariously inaccurate portrayals of German Nazis.
>>81595932
MUH SIX TRILLION
yeah and they will apologize again
they've been trying to do this ever since ww2 ended, and apologize and remove their shitty propaganda every time after it goes to court
>>81603601
Gotfried,the Wends are credited for the foundation of most of your bigger cities in eastern and Central Germany,of which Berlin and Dresden are the most known.
>Also not claiming the British Islands are Germans because Anglos are from Germanic tribes
Are your predecessors the progenitors of the same Scandinavian and Frisian tribes that've occupied most of the British Isles?
>>81603601
>Otherwise they americans can say the moon belongs to them because they were first.
yeah, they literally can do that.
btw. nice goalposting.
>>81603115
>Gdańsk was a neutral city, you dummkopf.
learn to read. It would've never been separated from Germany after WW1 if they would've been votes. It was declared as a neutral city by the Entente without asking the population.
>>81589134
I feel kind of special as two countries fighting over who hates me less.
>>81603886
>>81604147
And yet they didn't vote to join Germany after WW1. :^)
>>81596478
>evil laugh
1:47
massive kekerinos everyone.
>>81604046
I know it's difficult for your kind to comprehend the importance of possessing dignity and a fighting spirit that makes you resist foreign invasion to the brink of certain annihilation,given the fact that you're just Germanic version of the everlasting merchant.
>>81600970
>>81601302
>>81601827
>>81598356
Ok. Now Im understand with who I am talking. At first I was thinking you are trolling. Now I know who you really are.
>>81604343
Jews are like 90% Pole/Russian Israelbro
>>81603678
Nigga I live in Lübeck I'm well aware that merchants always wanted to stay independent to secure their shekels from Kings. But that doesn't change their ethnicity. It just shows that nationalism didn't play a big role back then. It started to become important from the end of the 18th centuary till now. Before that people hardly cared who was king and whatnot.
It's therefore stupid to take those allegiances as proof for our nationalistic viewpoints of nowadays.
>>81589134
>Be Adolf hitler
>Realize Treaty of Versailles will lead to another World War
>Poles will invade us
>France and Germany will invade us
>Bolsheviks will try to invade all of Europe after the commie revolutions led by jews in Germany and Russia
>Realize that it's just the jewish biological imperative at play
>Race realism is true
>Send jews to dedication camps and try best to make camps humane and fair so that later generations can know the truth before Germany collapses that jews are sophists by religion and ethnicity
>Tfw the ancestors of the Poles and Germany I tried to keep liberated from communism are still arguing with each other over who was the real racist and anti semite in war for survival.
>>81603601
Yeah sure, start flopping on issues now that you've been outed.
Germans were pushing to the east since early middle ages. >H>R>E wiped out the Polabian Slavs and Teutonic Order murdered all the Prussians, committing the genocides on par with the ones of Hitler. But once Poles started pushing back and reclaiming their territories - OY VEY, IT'S ANUTHA SHOAH!
>>81604608
Not really. Studies proved that Jews are practically arabs in white skin .
>>81604823
Not sure if sarcasm or bait?
>>81602799
>About 1235, the town was granted city rights under Lübeck law by Pomerelian duke
City rights. Based on german city laws, like many others in Poland and other places in Central Europe.
But the towns were already there, anon.
>>81604823
>I tried to keep liberated from communism
>Ally with Soviets in 1939 especially to invade Poland
Yeah, sure thing m8.
>>81604642
I'm well aware of that,but you seem to intentionally ignoring the fact that the city's inhabitants have always preferred the being an independent part of Poland than of any German state,which is also the main reason why the Prussians have replaced the original inhabitants with their more loyal replacements,mainly from Prussia.
>>81604913
Maybe the jews have a point. If it's so easy to manipulate white people into arguing with themselves maybe they deserve to be enslaved.
>>81604511
are you retarded? Danzig never was allowed to vote after WW1.
All areas that were allowed to vote won with a yes for Germany and even this was ignored in case of Silesa.
>>81596478
>anti german propaganda
Sure anon. Sure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/36th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS
>>81597171
>but half the of victims were Polish
but muh Polocaust
>>81595298
>Working is a far worse fate for a Jew than death.
>>81589315
because unlike you nazi wannabe pieces of shit in the united states and uk, eastern europe does not suck hitlers cock.
>>81605231
M8. And Germany wasn't allowed to create army after WWI.
>>81605031
>>81605121
Oh god the blue pills. Ffs Poland you were the ones the bolsheviks pinned the extermination camps on in the first place.
>>81603953
>It doesn't bother you that there have been books published about obviously fake scenarios with German soldiers supposedly biting the heads off of Jewish babies or constructing death-rollercoasters in concentration camps, but when someone portrays a pole as an asshole it's suddenly the end of the world?
Not really, because:
A/ It is a German problem to debunk the rollercoaster myth
B/ Rollercoaster is not shown in brand new "historic" show in prime time tv.
>>81601827
>AK was the real terrorist, far worse than anything, who on their own soil oppressed the Supreme Martyr of the Great Patriotic War - therefore Katyń was justified
t. Ruski
kill yourself
>>81596255
go give dalmatia to italians while you kill serb and jew children with a hammer in stara gradiška.
>>81603953
>Poles were just as racist as any other group in Europe
And the TV show portrays the Home Army, which historically DIDN'T do such things, and hence, it's a lie and propaganda.
>Holocaust didn't happen, Germans dindu nuffin
Yeah, sure.
>Report of Polish Government in Exile about mass extermination of Jews in Poland, 1942
http://www.msz.gov.pl/en/ministry/polish_diplomacy_archive/collections_online/publication_of_the_ministry_of_foreign_affairs_of_1942__on_the_extermination_of_jews_in_occupied_poland
https://www.msz.gov.pl/resource/e7497fea-f446-4f82-80b1-169d609d697a:JCR
>Report of Auschwitz prisoner, 1943
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witold's_Report
http://witoldsreport.blogspot.com/2008/05/volunteer-for-auschwitz-report-by.html
Also, see >>81596970 and >>81598942
Now please go back to some NatSoc containment general where you belong.
>>81596008
hreiðgautaland is further east
>>81604642
>Lübeck
Do you also know who originally founded and built your city?
>>81600894
>Britain & France declared war on Germany not to save Poland, but in order to weaken Germany. They didn't care for Poles, that's why they never helped them during the war and let them get buttraped by soviets after the war.
Ultra rare bullshit!
Fucking saved.
>>81605379
>what are Ukrainian Guards
>what are romanians
>what are hungarians
here's a more personal one
>what are chetniks
>>81596478
>After the door of the building was blown off we saw a daycare-full of small children, around 500; all with small hands in the air. Even Dirlewanger's own people called him a butcher; he ordered to kill them all. The shots were fired, but he requested his men to save the ammo and finish them off by rifle-butts and bayonets. Blood and brain matter flowed in streams down the stairs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDqk1Oq5FQ4
>>81605083
>take 3 polish hobos
>build a hut
>MUHH POLISH CITY founded
>German merchants come, don't care about the hobo hut.
>German settlers start to build actual buildings, put a stamp on the area with their culture and end up as being 90 % of the inhabitants.
>800 years later
>muhhh polish hobo founders
>>81605572
Here he goes again. He who's normally busy defending genocide of Albanians, Turks and Croats is now busy whining about >MUH GARRILION SERB KIDS KILLED BY USTASE FASCISTS.
Fucking joke.
>>81604823
>Realize Treaty of Versailles will lead to another World War
Next you willl try to claim that Germans weren't losing in 1918.
>Muh knife in the back
>>81605192
>Slavic anon is starting to make sense,better pull the"the white race race should stand united against it's common enemy" card to change the course of the discussion.
It's very simple to understand our message,get the fuck out Slavic land and stop attempting revision it's history in order to justify your immigrant-like tendencies.
>>81605440
The fact that Hitler allied with Stalin in 1939 to invade Poland is a "blue pill"?
>Implying I'm going to read the wall text on some shitty .jpg
>>81605121
The Nazi Soviet Non Aggression act of 1939 was created specifically so that Hitler would force Stalin to control only half of your country. This is after you bastards let the communists slaughter your own people and other Germans around the Danzig area.
>>81589134
>>81589660
>>81590141
>>81591074
>>81591295
>Generation War has generated much controversy. The Economist stated that hardly any German TV drama ever caused that much public debate.
>German TV drama
>drama
>Drama is the specific mode of narrative, typically fictional, represented in performance. The term comes from the Greek word δρᾶμα, drama, meaning action, ...
polish education at its best
>>81600856
he inspired him to mass exterminate them. Before 1941, when the yellow star was introduced, Jews still were allowed to leave Germany.
