Would the middle east be better off if we left Gaddafi alone?
>>81478795
No, the Middle East would have been better off with Hussein alive
>>81478795
yes. also saddam.
Should have colonized Libya after his death. Exploit it's resources for the benefit of the civilized rather than the subhuman Arab savages.
>>81478927
Could you explain? This stuff is very interesting to me.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/18/muslim-brotherhood-official-former-clinton-foundat/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork
Look at this
>>81479177
Because it is such a shitty place they need a iron fist to keep them in line.
Libya would burn alone, destroying iraq was the mistake.
>>81478795
Gaddafi would implement Hard Gold currency to whole africa and USA would die economicly just like europe.
He also wanted to sell oil for gold, thus almost impossible to keep him alive, since USA lives off other countries riches by stealing the resources via fake-paper money dollars.
Would the middle east be better off ?
Whole africa would be better off and middle east.
>>81479380
basically this, iraq wasn't really a global problem until we decided to fight the longest and most pointless war in our history.
>>81478795
Saddam was holding that shit together.
Not so sure about Gaddafi tho.
>>81478795
Getting rid of Gaddafi practically destabilized whole northern to central Afrika. His estabilishment heavily supported the development in those countries.
It is impossible for burgers to not realize that, so a purposeful destabilization as always you fucking kikes.
>>81479177
Gadaffi was the leader of Libya...in Africa buddy. He kinda was important as being a gate keeper to Europe. Sad am was tje major player in the Middle East.
>>81478927
This.
Now AFRICA would've been better off if we hadn't fucked with Gaddafi. He was the one who was holding back the nigger tsunami from Europe.
>>81479177
Most arabs are animals, Saddam was a very good dictator which kills lots of terrorists. Arabs respects violence and strenght. Not freedome and democracy.
>>81478795
that niggers dead goofus.
>>81479799
I heard that killing saddam allowed groups like the taliban to get stronger and form easier
>>81478795
THE NIGGA LITERALLY SAID
"WHEN THEY KILL ME, IT WILL ALL GO TO SHIT."
OF COURSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF, IT'D HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF IS SADDAM WAS ALIVE TOO
A BUNCH OF BRUTAL, WORTHLESS INSANE SANDNIGGERS CAN ONLY BE REIGNED IN BY A FUCKING KING TEN TIMES AS BRUTAL AS THE AVERAGE CITIZEN.
>>81479068
Saddam was coloring outside the lines though, I think he would have gotten worse as the years went on
>>81479380
>to keep them in line
And in their own borders
>>81479177
At the begging, civilizations need an iron grip until the people can rule by themselves, then that grip is loosen and loosen until you get to the Original America, later people go back to being savages and you must implement that grip again; it's the cycle of left and right, happens because people are imperfect.
If you go and spread democracy to a population that is not ready for it then the only thing that you are getting is even more suffering.
>>81479964
Taliban are in afganistan, the formed after soviets left so they became political power. The only "mistake" they did is to destroy all the heroin poppies about 90% of the heroin crops fields got destroied by talibans. This was reason enough to invade it, in order to maintain the heroin - cia trade to pay off the chinese depts which USA ows to the chinese.
>>81480245
>until the people can rule by themselves,
it never happend, people are to serve the rulers.
"original america" started with a genocie on native american indians, which try to refuse the iron grip of europian colonizers, just like aztecs and mixtezs refused spanish colonizators.
you theory is pure bullshit, USA is controled with IRON grip, aka cops which can shoot you without being persicuted.
>>81478795
Yes. USA/UK and France keeps trying to bring 'democracy' to those savages.
Their culture can't cope with it and it causes chaos. What they need is a strong dictator.
Getting rid of Gaddafi and Saddam was a fucking disaster.
Fucking around with foreign countries is stupid.
>>81479471
>USA lives off other countries' riches by stealing the resources via fake-paper money dollars.
Explain?
>>81478795
Yes.
>>81478795
If Gaddafi wasn't taken out, Libya would have ended up like Syria with a prolonged high intensity civil war with hundreds of thousands dead and over a million refugees
Libya has resulted in less than 1% of the bloodshed in Syria and much lower intensity occasional fighting in the struggle for power in the country
>>81480245
wrong, its race+shitty borders made by british empire/european powers
>>81478795
>Libya
>Middle east
Ahh, American education.
>>81478795
He wanted to create an African Union that would become a regional power, capable of defending its own interests. USA just wants to strip the region for all its worth; so he had to go.
>>81480782
>Fucking around with foreign countries is stupid.
It depends. The intervention in Libya was stupid, but our wars in Sahel (Centrafrique and Mali) were successfull, and we needed them to securize our uranium supplies
>>81479999
Quads of truth, and can confirm.
>>81478795
The middle east would be better off without the Bush or Clinton families.
>>81480805
US basicly prints useless paper as "world" currency which everybody try to collect and swap this fake paper money with natural resources.
It is like a robbery without guns. And without people realizing they are being robbed.
>>81478795
it was a fuck-up removing him, a fucking disaster, western military intervention going tits up yet again, why do we stick our noses in all the time?
he was a dictator sure but he had an army and he had established power, would have crushed any rebel fanatics that tried to gain momentum. the same rebels we were helping find this guy are the same cunts that are part of isis. we created a breeding ground for these rebel groups to gain power without being stopped and now look at things.
sure the middle east is fucked, anywhere dominated by islam is going to be a barbaric cesspit, but we have completely fucked up and destabilised a region where so much fucked up atrocities, alot worse than anything gaddafi ever did, are now part of everyday life
>>81479177
Apparently he tried so start an official African bank.. Which would've improved the financial situation in Africa.. Not beneficial for America or Europe o guess
>>81481199
>>81481199
>African Union
Nah, Union is what USA wants, but he wanted to sell his oil for hard gold. He also had 140 tons of gold and 200 billion $, jews cant let him have this fun.
>>81481388
Perhaps the dumbest thing ever said by any human in any forum ever.
>>81482003
Whoops, was meant for >>81481402.
He was a bulwark against islamists, but hillary we came we saw he died clinton just couldn't resist settling a personal grudge, even if it meant an entire nation would go to the dogs and islamic terrorism would proliferate
>>81482046
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
>>81480689
All that bait.
Mohammed pls go.
>>81482003
>>81482046
Of course it is dumb and stupid, because it is truth and truth shouldnt be heared by the goyim, right ?
>>81478795
Middle East would do just fine if you stopped backing up Israel and let muzzies be.
>>81482512
kikeland is pretty much the only successful & sane country in the middle east, though
>>81478795
yes
>>81478927
>better off
>started several wars
no
>>81480000
Fucking god damn dem digits made my dick hard
>>81478927
>>81479068
Saddam was a CIA puppet
>>81479999
And these
>>81482351
>muhammad
oh boy, here we go namecalling like a child.
>>81479471
>since USA lives off other countries riches by stealing the resources via fake-paper money dollars
We're all in it together Hans. Exxon/Mobil, British Petroleum, Wintershall, Royal Dutch Shell, everybody. You're sucking from the same tit asshat.
>>81482693
yes, be he was only pretending, like putin.
erdogan is also playing a puppet, be i know hes up for something, he just needs that dollars.
>>81478795
The middle-east would be better off if we just glassed them all and made them christians
>>81479999
The worst part is we did it multiple times, MULTIPLE TIMES
>>81478795
Maybe..? Maybe not..?
But we definitely would be
>>81479999
quads of truth
>>81482496
I still fail to understand why precisely the money is worthless. If it's because they let the national debt increase perpetually, and it's gone this far already, why can't this just go on forever?
>>81482779
>We're all in it together Hans
Yes i know. I was just trying to explain to the kids how explotation and robbery works.
What they gonna do about it ? Iam just a honest person. Thats all.
>Would the middle east be better off if we left a North African Leader alone
The middle east would even be better off if you Americucks hadn´t attacked Mossadegh
How Gaddafi a gate keeper? Did he limit emigration?
>>81482779
Relax Fatty McFat
Actually the middle east would of been better off if iran's shah would of still been in power. everything went to ape shit when the shah went down
>>81478795
Let me answer your question with another.
Is OP a raging faggot?
>>81481241
Yeah. OK. We had a bit of a scrap in Sierra Leone a few years ago and it sorted stuff out.
Here's a movie about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5jWaU-fbo
>>81480000
>>81479999
THOSE FUCKING DIGITS!!
>>81483140
Money is like a coupon for Gold that YOU own if you put it in your bank.
Rich people cant carry around all that gold, theirfore they carry around lots of coupon. This coupon is worthless paper but it does represent the GOLD you put in the bank. Most people wont use that GOLD so much, so the bank decided it can print more of this coupon to pretend it got a lot of GOLD in the treasury. It also can take BRICKS and put lil bit of GOLD on it so it may look like real GOLD.
Money was born, when people didnt took all the gold out of the bank.
US basicly cant have so much gold to back up the dept let alone to back up so much money aka coupon which represent that GOLD.
So they bound that dollar to oil, which is kinda, liquid currency. Basicly useless you need hard currency. But people believe in it, and collect it and give up their wealth thinking "money" makes them wealthy.
Same like native indians in latin america swap gold for pearls, because spanish told them they are "magical" moombodumbo voodoo.
Money is religion.
>>81483360
Yes. As long as we paid him pennies he kept subsaharians down.
