Should I join the military /pol/?
Not unless you like diversity training.
>>81397873
>wanting to be a welfare queen
>>81397873
Do you need taxpayer-funded sex reassignment surgery?
Then yes.
>>81397873
Only if WW3 does actually happen.
French news currently shilling for people to join the reserves.
Ironic, the same scum rioting and throwing shit at the cops expect some poor prick from Corsica just trying to get through his day to protect the when mudslimes start really showing their savagry.
>>81397873
If your're asking if you should join then you aren't ready to.
>>81397873
Current active duty here. Where are you at in life right now that has you thinking about joining?
>>81398682
>Where are you at in life right now that has you thinking about joining?
Graduated
>>81397873
as along as it's not the chair- I mean air force
>>81398888
College or high school? If college, become an officer. Also, what branch or career field are you interested in?
>>81399294
Just graduated high school, Marines or Navy, Either infantry or something with planes.
>>81399294
>>81398888
No, just no. If you graduated from anything you shouldn't be thinking about the military. Look into trades if you want to do physical shit and work with your hands. The thing is, the military will try to tell they'll give you all kinds of skills, but it won't. Don't be another person in uniform regretting their decision. It sucks
>>81397873
Fuck no.
>>81399627
If you go officer route you have a choice of Naval Aviation or Marines. Need to get a scholarship for ROTC or OCS after college
>>81397873
Are you stupid? I only ask because if you can get into mechanical or communication service you can find work when your time is up.
>fighting for israel
[spoiler]good goy[/spoiler]
>>81397873
Armyfag here.
Get in now before ww3, so you can be better trained instead of being thrown into the field right after training.
Also cav scout>infantry
>>81399294
How do you become an officer after college? Went to a college with not ROTC. Is the Navy impossible to join?
>>81397873
I graduated from high school in 2012. I've spent the past 4 years as a living yo-yo doing odd jobs. Never committed to the whole get buried in loans college route (only received 10 grand scholarship for a liberal art school....psshh). Moved across the country to restart life with family in California from New Hampshire (the weather is nice, but the people are mostly dirty mexicans or white collar status-quo shills who've never made anything with their own hands but paperwork). No relationships or friends really. My dog has cancer. Been unemployed for months now. Camped in the woods alone last night to get my head around some shit. Honestly the big thing stopping me from joining the Marines or Army is the possibility of Trump getting elected. I don't care for Clintoris either, but he's insane and definitely would start a war for wealth....my biggest regret wasn't joining right out of high school...I'd be through it now.
>>81402130
enlist then OCS, but don't do it. How could you have a degree and do something that stupid to yourself.
>>81402130
As long as you have a college degree you are able to go to OCS. You could have a fucking degree in basket weaving and become a commissioned officer.
>>81398282
how high are you nigga?
>>81397873
idk I think the chance of being cannon fodder is too high.
>>81399627
Well, if you want infantry, do Marines. If you want a job with planes, the Marines also has that; the Navy does not. I'm in the air wing as an enlisted maintainer, so I could answer questions you might have.
>>81398164
>You know what welfare means
If you actually want to see combat you should join the FFL,
>>81402309
bruh if you gonna join the military, then aim high...
train to become a green beret or navy seal
not joking.
get your ass on the track so you can have a shot at being one of the best.
>>81402443
I don't plan to because of the hair thing, but I figure if WWIII ever happens I should think about what I'd do
>>81397991
you are half correct.
lots of bullshit classes.
>don't rape
>don't upset people
>>81403383
what you should do is get a decent job per your degree and buy a gun, provided you live in a non-cuck state.
Already did. Air Force reporting in.
>>81403671
How is it?
>>81399684
true with few exception.
engineering branch you may learn to be:
mechanic, plumber, or electrician.
heavy equipment operator. nothing too exiting.
otherwise..
>ready to be a cop afterwards?
>>81402600
How is it?
>>81403818
Good mate. Life has never been better to be honest.
>>81397873
As an officer, sure! Great benefits, constant training and education, and lots of interesting work and travel opportunities that you couldn't get on the civilian side (or not without more experience). Regular promotions and a career path ate great too. More sense of camaraderie at work too, civilian side is more competitive and so people are more cutthroat.
If you enjoy life, don't enlist. Do go Air Force or Navy. They have the best base locations and most collegial office cultures. Avoid combat related occupations unless you crave personal growth through hardship and suffering. Or if you just plan on staying in for a short time and want to be able to tell people, "I've seen some shit..." Those occupations are also the most likely to attract assholes as well.
Like with anything, the more hands on research the better. Do ROTC and try to meet as many service members as possible.
>>81402470
correct.
however beware, if doing ROTC it will eat tons of your time during college, and take a few summers.
If you have a hard degree, you will hate it. and might just ask for Guard/Reserves in the end.
a "Real" degree pays better than the military, and no B.S. or people to deal with.
Do you amount to anything?
>>81403671
lucky bastard
i still got a year of college left before I hit up OTS
>>81397873
>living in USA
Yes
>>81397873
What branch and what service.
I can give you a real idea of what joining the Navy under an engineering career would be like. Not the most glamorous, but a true understanding.
>>81402309
guaranteed house, food, and paycheck.
and in the end you'll have at least 4 years of job experience, and GI bill if you want to attend college, or just pass it on to your own kids someday
>guaranteed instant improvement in your situation.
one of my sergeants was homeless when he joined
>>81397873
You probably have less chance of getting shot in an overseas war zone
>>81403841
It has its ups and downs as with any job.
Upside: Valuable mechanic experience on a aircraft with has a decently sized civilian work force which companies will usually hire veterans right out of their EAS because they have to spend no time training them. I can earn many certifications that can translate back into the civilian work force as well, such as my forklift operators license. I travel a lot and get to see much of the world. The wing itself is a more relaxed sector of the Marine Corps, so life is a little more easy going speaking in a militaristic sense.
Downs: Long hours,(11-15 hour days) ran ragged, constantly fucked in the ass, usually work the weekends.
All in all though, I wouldn't give this up for anything. I get shitty pay, but considering I have minimal cost of living expenses, I save a lot more than I was back as a civilian. Also, deployment pay is dope.
>>81403383
don't worry about the hair.
mine was once long... now I don't even comb it.
>the life experience makes up for fashion
>>81397873
Do you want to go fight and die im some shitty country because some sandnigger is too pussy to pick up a gun and fight for himself?
>>81403117
Lmao theyre all shitskin
>>81404738
how much is deployment pay?
>>81402576
...one of our cannon fodder
takes out waves of enemy.
>odds of dying are relatively low also.
great medical care, in a pinch air support, and a chopper out
>>81404429
fuck, you sound like the jewish recruiters who almost fucked my life up
How bout the navy?
>>81403117
>be France
>cant find enough brave Frenchmen to defend France
>have to create special force for foreigners to join and fight for France
Fuck France, bunch of surendering pussies.
>>81404457
/thread
t. did 3+ years ROTC as an engineer major
>>81397873
JOIN THE MARINES YOU FUCKING PUSSY
>>81404966
Listen, I don't mean to undercut Army boy here. But that's not what you want to do.
Wouldn't you rather not be cannon fodder and make the same amount of money?
If you want to join, join the Navy. Get a job, don't get shot at, and still get benefits.
>>81403117
>fighting and dying for a nation you werent born in
>forced to learn to that nation's language
>citizenship of said nation is not guaranteed
Ultimate edgy teen, lowkey cuck - tier
>>81405095
This.
>inb4 someone says being US military is fighting for da jooz
>>81404875
yup!
3rd worlders who signed a contract to be French someday.
>when they could have bum rushed the border, and said "I'm Syrian'
>>81404429
This nigger is full of shit and never served a day in his fucking life.
Avoid military service in any capacity unless you enjoy ass rape and mental illness.
>>81405214
But what if I want to get shot at
i would join if there was a war worth fighting. nowadays we just fighting to have our own countries flooded with invaders anyway
you're giving your life so ahkmed and pajeet can have your country. no thank you
the only war i will fight will be a revolution
>>81405343
dont tell the recruiter that, they dont let nutcases into the military currently
>>81405343
I mean fucking shit, if that's what you want. Then join the Army straight up.
>>81405343
>implying the army sees action
top kek. if you wanna get shot go for a police job in some nigger city
>>81405592
Australia at it again
You ever seen a naked man ride a horse?
>>81405343
But why tho?
>>81405313
>t. commie draft dodger
>>81405313
Wtf, fuck the military
>>81405143
lol.
i'm Civil
transferred & spent 4 there
now a designer, a guard on side.
>>81405700
I like the feeling of the adrenaline running through my veins
>>81405144
not everyone
is meant for the USMC
>they have a very "fraternity" style and culture
>>81405724
I already did my time, nigguh.
>nevar agin, tho
>>81405737
The military does suck, but you need to get it through your head that you're going to have to do this shit.
A lot of us older guys already did it already. We did it because our country called us.
WW3 is coming, better get your boot size ready. We'll keep your girls safe when you leave, don't worry.
>>81405775
cool, I'm an Electrical Engineer with a comfortable job making 60k/yr in bumfuck nowhere with plenty of free time and no one bitching at me or trying to convince me to sign my name on retarded contracts
>>81405944
lol
>>81405929
>t. welfare queen
what's better ROTC or just enlisting after college and going into OCS?
>>81406070
crazy sick pic
>>81404966
Well, it's tax free. That's what makes it great. Depends on your rank what you get paid.
>>81406078
later, ROTC is like doing both at the same time. If your degree is basket weaving then do ROTC and you'll have a good time.
>>81406070
I have no idea why you're even pretending to talk shit. You're country is in such a mess and you're getting ready to host the Olympics.
Christ have mercy on your people. Not even thinking about the innocent other people coming to your shithole country. Christ have mercy on them all, not even your shitty statue can save the souls.
>>81405214
I'm a Marine, faggot.
>>81406487
....sorry
>>81405970
and ~once year
visit exotic location... sit and push papers there :/
change of scenery
and second set of employeable skills
>>81406450
You don't even begin to know, gringo.
I want to do ROTC while in college.
I would like to major in Accounting and join the Army Reserves as a Military Police Officer after I complete my degree and ROTC.
Subsequently, I'd like to become a civilian Police Officer.
Would ROTC prepare me for a career as a Police Officer and look good on my resume when I apply to police departments?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
>>81397873
Maybe if Trump wins. It's not worth it, though. Really, just enjoy your life.
>>81406078
OCS:
basic 2 months, ocs 2 more month=office
done and over.
ROTC:
4-5 years, of getting up at 5am.
10-15 hrs per week of army-ish junk
and no soldiers there, just college kids playing boyscouts.
>pushing papers
Sounds like quite the life skill, welfare queen
>>81406627
Oh don't worry buddy. I'm sure your country will redpill a lot of people.
I'm beyond feeling sorry for dumb white people. Let them go to your horrible country and get a taste, I'm well aware of the flavor.
>>81406487
thanks for your service
>>81406487
Easy there motivator
>>81405313
lol it makes me laugh that people think they deserve some sort of extra respect cause they joined the army
army is literally boys school for cuckolds who never grew up
>>81406661
Yes, surprisingly you actually have a plan and a good one at that. Although, with that kind of foresight, I feel like you could do better with your life and maybe aim higher. Engineering, Law, Medical, etc..
>>81406773
>>81406078
but OCS is dependent on your packet...
ROTC is guaranteed commission, plus they pay for your school.
>>81406487
your use of punctuation...
got a but buddy?
YES and redpill are you move up ranks and then we can have a coup
Yes...If you do, Join the infantry or stay the fuck home faggot. We don't need another fucking POG shuffling papers for us in S-1 or another nigger in the kitchen.
>>81404966
Also, just notice that not once have I told you to actually join the military. The cowards who hide behind the "lol government cuck fodder" are the ones who are telling you what do to because they themselves were too shitty of people to be able to say they served. Besides, I live off their tax dollars, so everything they say makes me laugh. No one told me to join the military, I did it myself. The choice is yours. I can only tell you how life is in the military.
I'll be back in a little bit, I have to go get a haircut.
>>81406070
That's true, but the benefits actually suck dick when you get out.
No one understands you or anything that you used to do.
The GI Bill is worthless because not even a college degree takes away the veteran stigma.
The VA is broke and understaffed, so you wait three to six months for appointments.
Employers think you're unhinged and unqualified, no matter what your credentials.
You can get a free breakfast at Denny's on Veterans Day, though.
>>81406773
>no soldiers there
lol, there are green-to-gold candidates in ROTC as well as the Cadre who run the program. Typically NCOs in the Cadre are multi-deployment vets
>>81403475
>be a decent person while representing your country
>bullshit
>>81406843
How can I be calm when I'm in the only branch of service that has authorized capes for ceremonial wear?
>>81407053
ROTC is NOT guaranteed commission
Someone didn't read their contract fully
If Obama doesn't want as many officers, you may never commission
>>81406661
I know 3 cops that do Mil on side.
yours is a safe plan.
my E-4 assistant, makes nearly as much as me as a new engineer.
Cop pays alright.
>>81407053
but don't they pay for your school only if you recieve a scholarship?
>>81407013
Law enforcement occupations are payed very well in my area.
With the pension, I'd be able to retire around the age of 45.
>>81406627
>Gringo
REEEEE you're not Mexican
>>81406661
Don't do accounting, do actuary as math if you're into accounting
How fucked is the GI bill guys?
>>81403117
I heard FAMAS's suck is this true?
>almost joined marines
>realized I might serve under Hillary
Wew lad
Royal Australian Navy reporting, best navy in the world.
>>81407094
nigger it's midnight on a saturday
>>81407153
small school
4 cadre, 3 staff.
maybe one or two green-to-gold.
the rest young kids.
and most of those are just there to bolster numbers.
so "contracted" can practice moving/directing troops
>>81407090
kek
>>81397873
I'm thinking about it too but in Canada; so it's less exciting but safer(?) I suppose?
I'm almost finished a degree in economics with math and I would most likely enroll in the officer program too. I don't see it as such a bad thing like some people on /pol/ do.
It's in part due to the fact that I want to develop the discipline they would beat into you and because I don't really want to do meaningless jobs. I'd rather have a bigger influence in what happens here (as I progress, hopefully).
My point is, it depends on your end goal. Some people here have a negative perception of the army but you need to see if it fits with what you see out of yourself. Personally, I'd first finish college or some trade schooling before applying so you have experience in some things and would know for sure you don't want it.
>>81407339
what about without the pension?
You may need more foresight than I originally thought. Pensions are fading away
>>81407094
>"I'm not telling you what to do, but those people telling you to do the other thing are a bunch of fucking coward cucks REEEEEE"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQAXX08A-s
>>81407281
Thanks for your input.
I've been browsing numerous forums which gave me an idea of what the best pathway to becoming a police officer would be.
Reserve duty seems to be a big plus.
>>81404875
>>81405095
>>81405263
Say what you want but the point stands. If your #1 priority is seeing combat and killing shitskins, the FFL is the best way to go at this point in time. The U.S. military is not going to see widespread combat outside of Special Forces for a long time.
>>81407461
Your second part is obvious. MS1s and 2s don't need contracts and the 3s and 4s have to learn to be officers somewhere, unless you think LDAC teaches you everything (lol).
>>81397873
>Do you think politicians are good people?
Then why kill people because a politician told you to?
You just want to play with the big toys and kill brown people cuz it makes you hard. Grow up.
>>81407557
I'd still live an upper middle class life.
>>81407090
warzone:
civilians are hired to do shit jobs.
MPs act as infantry.
Cooks armed escorts and prisoner handling
...even pogues are necessary to function
:'( pushing papers not glamorous, but planning wins the fight as well
>>81407236
That's great!
>>81407557
>Government jobs exist
>Make less but have pension to make it up
>No pension
How does the government expect to compete with the cooperate world at this rate? This is just pathetic. I guess America is over
>>81407236
Its a boat cloak warfighter
>>81407743
Also, ex-legionnaires are in extremely high demand among mercenary groups, and with Africa undergoing a huge population boom over the next two decades Mercenaries are going to get a lot of action as the ineffective governments will be unable to deal with the increasing anarchy that the population boom will bring.
>>81407875
you pretty much answered your own question. hopefully you knew that.
>>81407754
>Then why kill people because a politician told you to?
Sounds like someone doesn't understand the military
>>81408018
True, I mostly meant though how the government hopes to fix this.
>>81407453
best navy? ...still a navy
mop, paint, clean, all maintenance.
wave pilots good by...
and once in a while shoot a gun at guys miles away.
>doesn't seem too military
>>81407459
...Hawaii much?
...Guam, samoa, Japan, Korea?
>>81406487
What unit? I was 3/8 India
>>81408263
You have absolutely no idea what the majority of sailors do, don't you?
For someone targeting a CS Degree would joining the military be a good idea?I was interested in the AirForce and have no clue on how im going to start my professional life once i finish college
>>81399684
Army spotted
>>81399627
Have you taken the ASVAB? / what grades did you get in high school and did you take advanced classes?
>>81408195
Personally, I don't think they're planning on fixing it. They just need more irresponsible politicians to give them more money, i.e. the conservatives we have today, not true fiscal conservatives
>>81397873
Hell yeah, join. If you like shooting and want to wreck shit, Army or Marines. Just want to serve and get the limited benefits, Navy. Only way I'd suggest Air Force is if you were going to pilot, and that isn't something you just sign up for.
>>81397873
If you have to ask
no.
Post ASVAB scores
got a 98, went infantry.
>>81408387
>For someone targeting a CS Degree would joining the military be a good idea?
Fuck no.
>have no clue on how im going to start my professional life
Military service permanently fucks up your professional life because every resume screener who sees your experience automatically assumes you're a degenerate trigger puller.
Everything you heard about military service making your resume look good is a bunch of premium-grade bullshit.
>>81408513
u smaht
>>81408387
You'd make less money, and you would have less applicable experience, CS jobs would rather see you work a contract for a year with microsoft or some shit than military. IT would be smarter than military.
>>81408617
Trigger pulling IS a professional life. Documented combat experience is worth its weight in gold to PMCs.
>>81408513
I just want to do infantry, should I even bother studying?
>>81408374
I have not a clue!
army, shoot, move, communicate.
60lb ruck, marching, gun range
not bathing, sleeping outdoors.
>kinda like a hunting trip
>>81404731
>>81408513
I bet whoever was supervising you at the time tried to act like a 98 wasn't a big difference to some clown with a GED who can't remember to bring his pt belt to pt
>>81402309
>but he's insane and definitely would start a war for wealth...
What the fuck? Not for wealth; certainly not for personal wealth. Clintoris ALREADY has started wars and done arms favors for personal wealth.
>my biggest regret wasn't joining right out of high school...I'd be through it now.
>>>I would join for 4 years and leave
You have bizarre misconceptions, and only shitter parasites join for 4 years.
>>81408802
The ASVAB is stupidly easy. I was an average student in HS, got mostly Bs with an occasional A or C. I didn't study at all for the and showed up to take the test hungover on 5 hours of sleep and got a 98. If you can tie your shoes without hurting yourself you will get an 80+
>>81407459
It's 2 o'clock on a Sunday
>>81408842
>On Shore
Eat, sit behind a computer and write spread sheets, do some training, eat again, more spread sheets, home
>On Ship
Sit behind a computer, stay at that computer, still there, eat, back to that computer, eat, co rounds, sleep
Pretty much a normal job unless you're a boatswain or a clearance diver.
>>81408791
>Mercenaries
Degenerate
>>81408617
employer assumes:
good under pressure
responsible
team player
leadership experience
>unless its a liberal: "all baby killers"
>>81408791
>Trigger pulling IS a professional life.
Don't make me laugh, kid. If you think you're fucking Rambo, then take a second look at your balls and remember that they're just as tiny as everyone else's.The PMC bubble popped in 2007, so unless you're some faggot Bat Boy, you're not going to get that 12-on-12-off tower guard contract with Academi that pays absolute dogshit.
>>81408802
Also, to answer your question, the higher you score, the more likely your recruiter is going to be willing to help you out and get you any MOS you want. Some recruiters go their entire TDY as a recruiter without seeing a 95+ ASVAB so when my recruiter saw my score he pretty much moved mountains to get me an infantry contract(it's not as easy as pol would have you think, most of the braindead retards go to supply or cooks or shit like that, not the grunts). He's not going to want to risk losing such a high score to another branch that can offer you better opportunities like the Navy/Air Force.
>>81408791
>CS degree
>PMC
>Muh PMC makes more
Sure and you won't ever have a wife who is faithful, money isn't worth that much, 120,000 is plenty for me senpai
Just go CS and get a masters in business you'll be making enough money to buy anime figures for yourself and your loving wife for life.
You should become a missionary and commit your life to Jesus
>>81397873
Yes, vet here. Had the time of my life in the military. Just don't be an idiot and sign up for a bonus. Do your 3.5 years, and decide if you wish to stay or not. Enjoy the time you have in service, don't fuck up, don't take anything personal, and DO NOT GET SOMEONE KNOCKED UP. 7/10 service, would do again.
-1 for the bullshit you have to deal with daily, but it's tolerable.
-2 for the shit leadership you have to deal with, completely dependant on your unit.
Other than your typical bullshit and shitty leadership, military is a pretty fun ordeal if you're a U.S citizen.
>>81407754
Sounds like someone doesn't know how to use the three seashells.
>>81409208
Nah.
Employers assume you have PTSD and need to be working security somewhere far away from them.
This is all contingent upon whether you get your resume past the automated screening process that can't read your credentials, too.
>>81404731
based aus
>>81409137
from before was on field/training.
staff duty: exactly what you described
but lots of powerpoint to the commander
>>81409161
nice buzzword.
>>81397873
You better have a high tolerance for bullshit because that is what wartime military is. Going into peacetime, it is going to be even worse.
However, you do get healthcare in one of the shittiest healthcare systems in the world.
You do have the option of getting your schooling paid for.
Depending on where you're applying to, your prior service may benefit you for getting hired. So take a cushy poggy position that'll actually benefit you in the real world.
>>81408617
pilots have great post service opportunities mate.
>>81408513
>t. future special forces
>>81397873
Do you want to risk fighting in Hillary's military? It will just mean a lot of seminars about not raping women while sitting between a tranny and a 90 lb female before getting shipped off to arabistan then given orders to stand down while watching ISIS fire mortars at you through your binoculars.
>>81407743
FFL fights more than americans? Source?
>>81409456
>three seashells
kek
Loved that movie.
>>81409287
>yes!
getting ready for the next crusade
>>81409673
Trust the nose. The nose knows.
>>81402600
What are the other Marines like? Like, not the ones in the air wing? Any stories you can share?
>>81409792
Jews tend not to live in Muslim countries
>>81409651
Nah I've been out for 3 years now. I just did my time as a grunt. A standard 2 deployments/16 months in Helmand and got out after 4 years in 2013 when peacetime started to loom, and the military started becoming irredeemably Obamified.
>>81409471
That falls under the category of assuming we're all baby killers
>yfw only around 10% of active duty infantry will see actual combat
Rhodesian Light Infantry
>>81409641
That's true.
Most service opportunities set you up for failure, but being a pilot is not one of them.
It's also one of the toughest gigs to get.
>>81397873
I'm planning on joining the military but only if Trump wins.
One more question for any pilots here is the road to becoming a pilot difficult?Its something i was always interested in and the reason i even contemplated about joining the airforce.As someone who wears glasses would it even be worth attempting?
>>81409669
stop it.
you're scaring me. ...4yrs more on my clock
Lads, tell me if this is a redpilled plan.
>go to uni
>train hard as fuck to become a green beret
>graduate from uni with degree in EE.
>get an 18X contract - no ragrets
>my previous training will have conditioned me to be successful in the program
>hopefully dont wash out and enjoy my time with the SF.
>If I intend to make a career out of the military, commission as an officer before contract ends
>>81410021
you have to have a bachelor's degree, no exceptions.
>>81409819
All varies. All aspects of the marine corps are different. It varies at company levels and unit levels. You can have insanely tight-wad chains of commands where every field day is a white glove inspection and shit or like mine where they check our rooms maybe once every month or so.
Stories I can share are just on my side. Never had any involvement with the infantry side or paper side. I really only know the wing, man.
>>81409844
I remember hearing about stress cards being issued during Basic Training back in 07' when I was still in. I imagine it's gotten way worse under the nigger's helm.
>>81410152
No.
t. degree in EE
>>81410021
Becoming a pilot takes typically 3-4ish years. Basic flight school and then the aircraft you get assigned to pilot
>>81409944
pilot not the toughest gig:
mandatory Crew rest
not specially smart
don't have to lead troop or deal with them
only answerable to a couple other pilot.
>however, back-strain from long hours in cockpit
>>81397873
If you have sighed the draft paper, you wont have a choice soon.
>>81410152
Why not officer than 18a if you're reaching for the stars?
>>81410250
How come? Is EE not so good? Or did you mean the military thing?
The US military is being cucked by jews and obama. Maybe if trump gets in join.
>>81410152
If you're majoring in electrical engineering, then you'd be stupid to waste your time on military service after obtaining that degree.
Go skydiving a few times while you're in college if you want to flex nuts and pretend that you can be one of the characters in Call of Duty.
>>81410007
do it for love of country/people
>not love of president/government
look who is in now.
>>81397873
i want to join the marines 2bh
ive been working out fairly hard but ive still a long way to go
>>81410338
I said it was one of the toughest gigs to get, you illiterate nigger.
Being in an aviation unit isn't a walk in the park, either.
>>81410021
some allow laser surgery
need 20-20, but can wear glasses
after you are in your eyes don't have to be perfect anymore
>>81410250
if the job market is good for EE, then at least I'll have that going for me once my contract ends (if It doesn't work out)
But I'll have one hell of an experience, and cant say i didnt try (hence the no regrets)
>>81410435
>>81410368
I don't want to be a pog, I would like being out in the field. I've read about the SF a little bit, the unconventional warfare aspect really interests me; travelling, language, diplomacy.
>>81410540
ex marine grunt guy here. What is your current 3 mile run time and how many pull-ups can you do?
>>81397873
Fuck no.
The military couldn't even defend itself from feminists and faggots, so don't waste your time, or your life, in that shitty institution of pussies.
I feel younger anons still in school have an overly romanticized view of what working in the private sector is going to be like (you're going to be able to choose a job you enjoy, make shit tons of money, work low hours, 2 weeks of vacation, great private healthcare, etc.). The vast majority of college grads won't have sweet lives. There's struggle on both sides.
Having worked in the private sector after college, I find life in the military to be much less stressful because there's more security. I'm able to choose a job I find interesting and that's stable, I know what my pay is going to be like for the next 20 years and approx when I'll get promotions, o know I'm unlikely to be laid off like I would of my company closed or moved to Mexico, I know what my healthcare is going to be like of something goes wrong, I know I'll be able to get another degree or send my kids if I want, if I need a lawyer I can get a good one without losing an arm and leg, and I know what my retirement is going to look like )and there's more).
Also there's a lot of value I associate with doing work that I know is important to my country, and I get to work with people I consider to be some of the best the nation has to offer.
Best job I ever had.
Tldr: There are a lot of intangible values that you need to consider before choosing private employment over government. Private sector can be a roll of the dice which you may not win.
>>81410248
basic in '11
I heard about those.
but never seen one, searched for pic.
I want a few to pull out at times as a joke.
>>81410435
Went to boot camp with a guy who made around 130k a year as a computer/IT specialist
>why would you give that up?
>"I wasn't happy"
Some people see the military as their true calling. Those are the kind of people the military need to keep it going. The marine corps as such a horrible retention rate of good NCOs because of the absurd fucking rules and statutes in place that no one wants to re-enlist and commanders stand there scratching their heads asking "why won't he re-enlist?" After they've just given him an NJP and non-rec for having a tattoo that shows a quarter inch outside of his PT gear
>>81397873
I am seriously thinking about joining the coast guard since I just graduate highschool
Any one got any advice for the coast guard?
>tfw going to basic for the Airforce in September
>tfw got a crew chief job
>don't even care if it's a tough job, get to fix badass planes and then get a civvie job making bank down the line
>>81410519
There is no doubt in my mind the country I love will vanish if that fucking harpee gets into the white house.
Trump or bust bro
>>81408938
>trump
>war not for personal wealth
how high are you nigga?
>Clintoris
yeah I know dawg
>4 yrs
got to test the waters first boi. I might stay.
>>81397991
It's the worst
>>81410579
...army aviation unit here.
if you are directly involved with arcraft... walk in the park.
other-mechanics and support, no sleep for you.
also discipline and PT standards, are Laxed as Hell
>>81397873
Do it pussy!
>>81409843
What about Palestine?
>>81397873
Yes, just don't be a puss and get a RASP contract and go 75th RR
>>81410902
25 minute 3 mile on a good motivated day
about 6-8 pull ups.
im not obese but i am fat, thats changing though
>>81410937
Tatoos are ghetto and jewish as fuck.
>>81402600
The navy has its own air divisions fucking jar head
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>>81410338
>back-strain from long hours in cockpit
>>81410877
>travelling, language, diplomacy.
You can do all that shit as a civilian and not have to worry about brain damage, destroyed knees, and a failed marriage.
This dumb plan of yours boils down to you wanting to flex nuts and pretend to be Captain Price from Call of Duty.
The 18X program is designed to attract retarded children like you so you can wash out and be assigned as per the needs of the Army.
Seasoned soldiers attempt to make it through the SF training pipeline and fail, so what makes you think you're more special than them?
>>81410949
Yeah, join the Navy.
>>81397873
Every man should at least try and get in once. If you can't get in, keep on going to another career.
Don't listen to this welfare queen shit either OP.
>>81410975
If you ever have an opportunity to work as a loader on a plane, do so.
Makes me sweat when I think about how cush my life would be loading cargo and then babysitting it on the way to various sweet locations around the Pacific or Mediterranean.
>>81409673
No, in the past 15 years the U.S. military has obviously seen more action than the FFL(though the FFL has been deployed a lot), but I'm talking about global trends and the future. There is always bound to be a rebellion/genocide/civil war in some shitty African country that the FFL has to go clean up. The U.S. military is not going to see as much action in the next decade or so. As I said earlier in the thread, Africa is in the beginning stages of an extreme population boom and the African governments are not capable or equipped to deal with tide of anarchy that is about to sweep to continent. The largest portion of combat in the next 10-15 years is going to go to the FFL and various mercenary groups in Africa(look up STTEP and their work earlier this year in Nigeria for example).
>>81410975
>be me
>in airforce flight
see the oldest,
and the fattest,
2 people I have ever seen in uniform.
Can't be that physically demanding.
>>81411273
My GF is literally a mechanic in the Navy that works on Jets on an aircraft carrier lol.
How's married life in the forces? Specifically the Air Force. I'm engaged currently [21 y/o] and I[m curious how much stress it can put on a marriage, if the girl's down for it.
The fiance comes from a military household.
>>81411011
>Amen
and dual, dubbs
>>81411243
With those scores you could pass a PFT, but not with a very good score. If you want to do something like the infantry then those numbers won't cut it. Not terrible scores though. I went into boot camp doing a 22:30 3 mile and 14 pull-ups, and left doing a 20:10 3 mile and 18 pull-ups. Keep the motivation up and keep working at it.
>>81410949
Coast guard is fucking gay, dude
>>81411594
>How's married life in the forces?
90% of married guys in my platoon ended up getting divorces.
If you want to drive off your wife, join the military.
>>81411519
That's what I said lol I used to watch the carriers and planes come in and out of cornado while I was stationed there
>>81411253
Shut up you uncultured swine
CF here, if you are willing to put out effort, then you will succeed in the forces. You get what you give.
>>81411399
good soldier that made it were once civilians.
no reason someone off the street couldn't do it.
>but the odds are stacked against him.
no experience
>pursing engineering in college
>boring normalfag life straight ahead
>unsure if this is what I really want
>still have a thirst for adventure
>have many unfulfilled ambitions because I've not no motivation, my work ethic sucks and I am anti social
>get this idea in my head that the military will fix that
Someone convince me if this is true or not please
>>81411399
Except I actually intend to join only if I surpass the PT expectations.
In any case
>Wash-out
>end up in the 75th
Not too bad familia
>>81411403
>>81411791
>"Don't join the coast guard and help Americans during a disaster, join the Navy and fight wars for your jewish overlords goy"
>>81411594
Air Force is the best among the services about considering family circumstances. Short deployments compared to others too. Lots of support networks for wives and employment on base in all kinds of things from medical to education to religious and counseling. Great medical and education benefits for your whole family too so there's less stress.
And when you're deployed most AFBs have WiFi so you can Skype easily with her.
Really good free legal services for drafting your will and handling your divorce too.
;)
>>81412002
...it is true
>>81411594
You will end up divorced. The Military life isn't for sustaining marriages.
>>81412002
>Adventure
>unfulfilled ambitions
Just bang a thai ladyboy like the rest of us
>>81411985
You sound like a retarded boot spic.
Fix your diction and stop making dumb replies.
>>81412033
>implying you'll end up as a Bat Boy
>implying that PT is all you need to do to prepare
I have a bachelors in history and economics. What are my chances of becoming an Intelligence officer in the Air Force or Navy? I didn't do ROTC.
>>81411816
This.
Want to have your wife fuck other guys and video chat with you later and tell you how much she misses you and then come back and she leaves you because you changed and have PTSD she can't deal with anymore because you drink and are distant?
Ymra eht nioj.
Fuck you Danielle, check in in the mail you whore.
>>81397991
lmao who did these guys piss off
>>81412002
motivation will be forced out of you.
>and your engineering college degree will call toy you.
work 8-5 and get paid, showers and sleep.
>tfw neutral country
>all my army does is peace-keeping missions in Africa
I just want to remove kebab and then go back to my job as an engineer. I don't give a fuck about what happens in Africa
>>81412002
if you put in effort, you get to do some really fun and cool shit. Mountain combat trainee here, shit was fucking cool! Rappel and shoot faggot!
>>81412108
Really? Do tell
>>81412403
>work 8-5 and get paid, showers and sleep
This is one lifestyle I desperately want to avoid.
12b here. Don't join the military its terrible. Ft. Hood is hell.
>>81412343
https://www.airforce.com/careers/detail/intelligence-officer
scroll down, right hand side
talk to a recruiter
>>81412396
its some GAY
"walk a mile in her shoes"
stunt.
>military being used to promote government SJW crap.
>enlist to kill brown people
>one of a very few people that don't enlist to get a "trade", or "college money"
>most people put almost as much effort into avoiding work as they do actually accomplishing anything
>fight in A-stan and Iraq with my bro's that are 90% white
>have to attend classes ran by niggers telling us how racist we are
>have to attend classes ran by bitches telling us how misogynistic we are
>have to attend classes on accepting faggotry in the ranks
>have to listen to senior NCO's and officers tell us how we're no better than the piece of shit support faggots that sat on their asses in FOB
>make the same cash as females who don't have to meet the same physical standards
>be treated like cannon fodder
Yea, FUCK THE MILITARY....
>>81402600
Not him, but are there commissioned maintainer positions?
