How did /pol/ change from a predominantly libertarian forum to a predominantly neo-Nazi fascist statist white supremacist authoritarian board, pretty much the polar opposite ideology of libertarianism?
>>81380394
red pill
>>81380394
Memes
>>81380394
The majority of us are still libertarians though.
>>81380394
/pol/ is as discordianism is to religion
>>81380394
Edgy numale altrighters started meming
>>81380394
>/pol/
>neo-nazi
You can't be serious. The vast majority of /pol/ users think slavs and meds are white.
>>81380714
Slavs yes, meds no.
we all grew up
/pol/ is memeing the alt-right. We're libertarian at heart
#Johnson2016
>>81380691
libertarians are fags. they'd allowed the same open border policy that left would
>>81380394
I posted right wing memes to mock lolbertarians
Eventually others joined in
After a while everyone sort of just forgot we were only being ironic
This is still better than those cringeworthy "Libertarian Societies Threads" showing random scifi deviantart pics we used to always get
Once you realize a libertarian society will not exist in a multiculturalist one you realize that you must first destroy the multicultural society.
Also, found jesus.
>>81380616
Never underestimate meme magic
>>81380394
World has changed more
>>81380394
>muh road
>>81380394
nationalism is the only force capable of obliterating the enemy that is international socialism and Jewry.
People were roleplaying as libertarians when Ron Paul was somewhat popular.
>>81380772
Slavs are mongrels. Period. They are not white.
This is what I mean. You fucking idiots call /pol/ a neo-nazi board yet you don't subscribe to their ideals.
Libertarian society doesn't work when half the nation is cucked beyond belief. It requires common sense, cooperation and personal responsibility. 3 things that are non-existent on the left.
It's time we take control and tell them what to do, they obviously have no business making decisions or thinking for themselves.
Also make Ron Paul chairman of the fed.
>>81380394
shitfront shills, that's how
>>81380394
Growing up
>>81380394
George Orwell once said "You don't have to scratch the pacifist very hard to find the jingo within".
Libertarians who finish college or high school and experience the tiniest bit of hardship/discomfort outside their mom's basement in the real world immediately do a full 180 and become turbonazis who think democracy was a mistake.
>>81380394
Because, after intense scrutiny, Nazi ideals were found to be, superior.
Because Libertarians won't stop immigration.
>>81380394
Fear my friend.
Propaganda is strong and here is proof, I visit when there are major or foreign happenings.
>>81380394
Angela Merkel
Libertarianism doesn't work if your population is brown.
>>81381682
Principled libertarians already believe that democracy was a mistake, retard.
The problem is that most people have a very superficial understanding of libertarianism, and simply follow the memes.
>>81380394
We didn't "change" we grew up and graduated high school. Libertarianism is a faggot 15 year-old who-thinks-hes-edgy's dream.
>>81380394
A lot of whites are attracted to libertarianism because they realize at a subconscious level that nigs are inferior and would not do well in such a society, not out of genuine love for freedom.
When they come to this realization about nigs consciously, they realize that they aren't true believers in libertarianism (unlike open border types) and move on to something that more closely matches what they believe.
>>81380853
No we wouldn't, Ron Paul wanted strong border control FFS
>>81380924
Kek
This is why I still come here too
we grew up
>>81381529
>common sense, cooperation and personal responsibility
This is literally what the socialist worldview is built on though, and why the Nordic countries are the most successful in the world. It's the exact opposite of American right-wing/capitalist views, which are based on religious dogma, selfishness and individualism.
>>81381777
I see nothing wrong with legal immigration, as long as the immigrants have no criminal background and are willing to contribute to the economy and society.
>>81381605
Kek wills it.
>>81381398
>slavs
>turk hybrids
no. that's western europe m8.
>>81382058
Socialism and personal responsibility are mutually exclusive. That said, it works for your countries because
1. you're all high tier white people and
2. daddy America protects you
Almost any system of government works if your population is all high tier white people.
>>81380394
Libertarianism is simply another way of saying 'I am right wing but I don't wanna be labeled as rayciss by liberal faggots'. Now that liberals are attacking libertarianism just as much as other right wing ideology, ppl just say we are right wing and hate PC
>>81381398
How do you have time posting? I thought getting cucked was a full time job.
>>81380853
We are national libertarians mostly, not lolbertarians.
Also
>/pol/ is one person
>>81381968
Also, a tolerant/multicultural true believer libertarian would be self-defeating because you can't get shit skins to sign up for it. They'd vote for more state and more gibs.
>>81380394
what is popularity and noobs
We stopped being cucks.
>>81382266
>national libertarian
Oxymoron. Please stop misappropriating words.
Reddit and normalfag influx. This is their outlet to be edgy because they can't do it in their real lives.
>>81382211
That's funny, coming from a norwegian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnbiKr9572Q
>>81382068
>I see nothing wrong with legal immigration, as long as the immigrants have no criminal background and are willing to contribute to the economy and society.
Immigrants vote 66% Democratic. You're still importing millions of people to vote for socalism.
>>81380394
I realized that Libertarianism can only exist in a homogeneous, high IQ society; so while it may still be an ideal to strive towards, it's not going to happen any time soon. First, there's some cleaning up to be done.
>>81382000
Those repeating digits speak the truth.
Not all libertarians are in favor of unrestricted and open borders. In a truly libertarian society I'd consider it, but unless our neighbors follow the same kind of ideology I'm very much against open borders. The only exception being merchants who I see as essential to not only a libertarian society but any society.
>>81381708
This.
>>81380772
How the fuck ar emeds not white you retard
>>81382394
No it isn't.
Maximum possible individual freedom for the citizens of the nation, but a national interest in keeping your nation full of people who make good citizens.
>>81381682
Democracy is antilibertarian
Also, with a lolbertarian society, you have no military (inb4 private armies, that shits fucking gay), no nationalism, have the same immigration policy as leftists, have no way to build a wall, no way to regulate things, no jail/prison system to jail degenerates, liberals, faggits, shitskins, etc. And much more. A libertarian society is a fucking joke.
/pol/ is nothing but /r9k/: Denial edition.
>>81382058
Nordic countries are not socialist, they're social democratic. Socialism does not allow for private property, profit or entrepreneurship, which are all practiced in the Nordic countries.
>>81380691
Where did you get this idea?
>>81382584
you're describing anarchism, which is the extreme version of libertarianism
libertarianism does not require no military
>>81382058
You have OILMONEY and you are almost 100% white it s easy for you
>>81382497
Their populations have plenty of North African and Semite admixture. They are mongrels, and mongrels are not white.
libertarianism was a fad jewish ideology, unrestricted capitalism only benefits the people at the very top
kikes wanted controlled opposition, and retards played along
>>81381398
Is it possible that he said this because that was who they were fighting?
>>81382804
No.
>>81380394
Neo Nazis are the direct cause of the death, rebirth and second death of /new/ which led to the creation of /pol/.
You might've also noticed the phrase "go back to /pol/" used in other boards when someone expresses a /pol/ opinion.
>>81382896
Okay.
too many fucking christians.
Because Libertarians can't answer the racial question without looking like retards
>>81382454
>Wtf REEEEEE IF I WANNA GET TO NORWAY
Gibe degree and you need to know language
>nig nog comes
Welcome my friend , we give you house and clothes and we teach you language
That s IT I M GONNA TAKE A BOAT TO LYBIA AND TAKE ANOTHER BOAT TO ITALY .. AS A REFUGEE
A libertarian society that appreciates the spirit of fascism would be best.
>>81380394
Influx of redditors. It's that simple. Just look at the introduction of accurate flags and id numbers. Reddit killed /pol/.
>>81382727
>>81382497
Caucasian, yes. White, no.>>81382524
Libertarians are delusional. Like these idiots, >>81382000, >>81382486, who say libertarians can be be against immigration. One of the primary reasons for such masses of immigration currently is because it benefits companies and corporations. To deny the free movement of people is to deny the free market.
Plus, libertarians hate roads.
Loyalty to your race comes before loyalty to the moneygod.
>>81382454
You can't even compare the state of Sweden to Norway, lmao, nice try professional cuck.
>>81380394
I guess you could call me a neo-Nazi fascist statist white supremacist authoritarian. I don't actually see white Europeans as being genetically superior to everyone else, culturally yes, but genetically no. I just see it as a means to an end. If there is no one else that isn't white then there would no longer be any cultural tension. Also, after continuously seeing people around the world voting against their own self-interests I think that a secular fascist state is just what we need.
>>81380714
kys cuck larper
>>81380394
we are fashy libertarians now I think
When the libertarians decided they didn't care about borders.
Roads may be a joke but borders are a very serious issue.
>>81383089
What do the directions mean?
>>81380572
>democratic socialism is still communism
>national socialism is completely different lol
>fuck boot lickers that like police
>I'm a fascist lol
Seriously, you people are so dumb.
>>81383284
Geographic location?
>>81381961
As opposed to an 18 year old's edgy alt-right dream.
Still a libertarian, just fucking hate political correctness, radical feminism, radical religions, radical immigration policies, radical big politics, radical European Union.
If siding with a neo-nazi fag for a while will get shit back to where it belongs where we fight for liberty, democracy and make laws based on morals then let it fucking be so.
>>81380394
Because what happens is libertarians take the red pill and realize the left will never just leave them alone and no one in the government would willingly cede power and allow a libertarian society.
>>81383089
Yeah sorry but no. Just because our genetic makeups are similar when you compared them to niggers or asians, it doesn't make them one and the same. Slavs are not white. They are mongrels with some white admixture.
>>81383154
See pic-related. You're literally a nigger country compared to us. Get back to me when you're white again. Thanks.
>Your grandparents probably helped lead to this man's death.
>>81380394
I think that any libertarian who's realist will see that libertarianism is nothing more than an ideal
humans are too everywhere in every way to have a working libertarian society
ideologically, i'm mostly libertarian, but realistically, I realized that more right leaning ideas are probably better for the security and prosperity of a nation
I think libertarianism could work in a nationalist setting in a culturally homogenous society, and only MAYBE then.
>>81380394
>predominantly neo-Nazi fascist statist white supremacist authoritarian board
stop taking the memes so seriously, only a small fraction of /pol/ are stormfags, and I've never seen someone here defend statism.
Most of us hate authoritarianism, and the white supremacy thing isn't taken seriously, it's more in the sense of "hey, white people tend to be better, but there are bad whites and good blacks"
/pol/ didn't change, it was nazi from the start, that's why the previous incarnations of this board got the axe.
Moot just brought back the news board in /pol/ form to fuck with STI for spamming us, by draining his users back here, which is exactly what happened.
4chan has been spammed by nazis looking to use children to normalize their propaganda ever since we raided Hal Turner. The nazishit predates /pol/ by years.
There were barely ever any libertarians on any of the news boards here, just neocons who say they are libertarians, to escape the baggage of the failings of neoconseratism (for example, pulling the fucking secular lynchpin out of the middle east based upon faulty intelligence, and not even putting the spending for that effort on the budget), yet they specifically promote the same economic agendas of turning the west into a fire sale for multinational-conglomerates.
When somebody says that they are a "libertarian", what they usually mean is that they are tribally partisan but they just want to attack, and not have to defend at all.
>>81380394
Because it is contradictory. Libertarians believe everyone is equally inequal. Look, not everyone can be an entrepreneur. A more structured class system like corporatism fixes this. People can be eqaul if they have the possibility to be. A baker can be eqaul to another baker but not eqaul to a lawyer. Just because they are not eqaul doesn't mean one is superior than another. Everyone shouldn't vote on a surgeon's decision. But a group of sergeon's can. https://archive.org/details/pdfy-Xm3KNoxQuBK9mHlX
>>81380394
libertarianism allows the degeneracy of the left to go unchecked.
>>81380394
since people finally woke up against the jews.
>>81380394
memes.
and 15yo edgelords
there is no way to co-exist with jews or with jewish thought
>>81380394
Libertarianism is the ideal, the distant utopia just out of grasp.
Right wing nationalism is the concrete answer. What must be done, what is real, what is actually possible.
Reminder that national socialist stormfrogs want to get rid of this.
>>81383508
>>81380394
Because sometimes the Lion has to show the Jackals who he is.
>>81382959
Enjoy eternal damnation... you've earned it afterall.
>>81383715
>we will never be this boldly stylish ever again
>>81383880
You are retarded if you believe Trump is anything close to a nazi.
>>81380394
Something happens to most people between the age of 22-25. College is a great place to be idealistic---something which the libertarian worldview demands. Around your mid-20's the idealism is gone and you realize that no one has a fucking clue what they're talking about. We are all simply floating around doing our own "thing." The neo-nazi bullshit is just that. Bullshit. It's all a great big joke.
Essentially, /pol/ grew up.
>>81383518
Exactly. The only shot of liberty we have around the world lies in global fascism lead by white countries.
>>81383880
Trump isn't even that fascist, unfortunately. Still better than Hillary, do not get me wrong. I'm sure most Libertarians will waste their vote on Gary Johnson and his neocon VP or (((Jill Stein))).
/pol/ is basically immature white kids.
They don't really have solid political beliefs like proper adults.
>>81380394
I was telling myself three years ago that the shitposting would die down on this board and return to normal. It never did.
>>81383952
he is a nationalist and a socialist. what does that make him if not a nazi?
>>81384104
Nationalist yes, socialist ???
>>81384104
Trump? A socialist?
>>81384104
a nationalist socialist not national socialist
>>81384104
>>81384159
Yeah he's such a nationalist. That's why he supports the jews and Israel. Can't stand you retards.
No one, and I do mean NO ONE, who supports either jews or Israel, can ever be a nationalist (unless you're a jew).
>>81384104
>Trump
>socialist
These are the people lurking /pol/ nowadays
How fucking low has this place sunk ?
>>81380394
When the left went completely insane, which was towards the end of Obama's first presidency.
>>81384159
>>81384223
he's for the nationalization of industry, the punishment of corporations that seek to maximize return on investment for shareholders, anti-trade, pro-barriers, etc
At the heart of a protectionist is a socialist that fears and condemns trade.
for example:
www.mustangandfords.com/news/1512-trump-threatens-35-tax-on-ford-if-mexico-operations-expand/
>>81380394
voting 3rd party to save the country
Jill Stein
Gary Johnson
http://www.strawpoll.me/10764793
I grew up.
I assume they haven't seen real neo-Nazis in real life because people here think life is like anime.
Bunch of thugs and drug addicts. I don't know a single one local open neo-Nazi who doesn't have social/economic problems, criminal background and drug problems.
>>81384297
Every politician that wants to make it in the US has to pander to the Jews initially. Once he's elected he can do a complete 180.
>>81384159
>>81384223
>>81384291
>>81384297
>>81384306
also, he agrees with Bernie on being anti-trade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0twuU6aUj4
>>81383485
Lmao, you are 100% rapefugee now my friend. Shhh, no tears.. Only cuck now.
>>81384379
Waste of a vote that could've gone to Trump. Those people have next to no chance of winning. Jill Stein is Jewish. Gary Johnson has a neocon VP. Stop shilling.
>>81384104
Kek
>>81383219
Wow
>>81384503
You're a fucking retard. Did he have to sell his daughter to pander to the jews as well?
Cause it's no longer edgy to be libertarian. Previously leaving people the fuck alone, and not punishing your enemies by passing laws was radical and new. Now that has been co-opted by the establishment and morphed into valuing being passive as opposed to actually standing up for whats right.
That and people can't be bothered to deal with the nuances of freedom. So its a lot easier to wholesale dismiss an entire ideology rather than understand what is meant by said ideology.
Tldr; people,especialy the kind who frequent this format of discussion have become intelecutually lazy and won't think about their position (or don't want to)
>>81384552
Sorry but I have science on my side.
>>81383219
I never watched stefan molyneux but I feel like his political development mirrored mine exactly and it's creepy
>>81384692
Does his daughter have free will? This isn't Iran Abdul.
>>81384692
Thanks, now I'm a #HillShill.
>>81380394
The Nazi stuff is mostly satire.
/pol/ just realized that brown people and "freedom" are literally genetically incompatible.
because its no longer contrarian. and the memes have moved on
>>81384342
>he's for the nationalization of industry
Lol no, Trump will only privatize more assets
He wants to decrease corporate taxes and simplify the tax codes
He's a protectionist because the USA has huge trade deficits, he always tells in his speeches "pro free-trade, but against unfair trade".
Also, socialism is "seizing the means of production". Trump is a business owner, a capitalist. Socialism goes against his identity.
>>81380394
The Jews used their media to destroy Ron Paul's presidential campaign and the stormfags started making sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keWX55SpYmU
>>81381398
It's more than evident that Kircholm,Poltava,Lesnaya and Gangut are still causing your people massive discomfort,even after three hundred years.
>>81380853
Open borders with no welfare system is debatable. Especially if it's only open for citizens of specific countries. A libertarian who supports open borders without the abolishment of welfare is just a retard and a strawman.
>>81380394
I still very much consider myself a libertarian,but, immigration is honenstyly a huge problem with the libertarian belief. In theory I fully support open borders for everyone, but in reality it's a flood of people from one country or one region of the world
>>81384787
He obviously failed to raise her properly if she chose (by herself) to settle down with a fucking jew (and become one herself). What does that tell you? That he's a worthless father. If you're a worthless father, you're a worthless man. Do you think a worthless man will ever be capable of making America "great" again? Give me a fucking break.
>>81384808
You should realize that voting is futile. Exercise your 2nd amendment you fucking faggot, just like your forefathers did under British rule.
>>81380394
>redominantly libertarian
Never happened you you misinfo spreading fuck
It didn't, /pol/ has always been a weird combination of freedom loving with authoritarian stomping and few strays like me, who is a Hoppeian Distributist.
SImple.
The founding fathers, who built our nation, were essentially--- Libertarian National Socialist Racialists.
And that's what we are.
>>81382804
(Yes),because dehumanizing your greatest enemy is the only way to prepare your soldiers to fight effectively against him.
>>81384860
Oh, of course it is. No one would really believe that Jews should be gassed or that niggers, I mean people of color are inferior to white Europeans.
>>81380394
immigration and outsourcing.
>>81385052
Can you fuck off
All you have done is shit up the thread with everyone of your post.
It's not that freedom is bad.... but only whites think it's rad!
>>81380394
Shills
Poison the well
>>81380394
Libtards are tipping the boat over because of gigantic land whales with blue hair,
we are merely trying to balance it out, and at this point we need Hitler to come and gas the Jews.
>>81382058
I should have specified. VOLUNTARY cooperation for the greater good. Socialism is forced cooperation which works only when you don't have a country full of degenerates.
See: vuvuzela
>>81380394
You need to have fascist elements to uphold the liberty of your people against the unwashed masses of the world. You can have as much civil liberties as you want inside the fascist state but the hammer has to come down hard on those who would subvert it otherwise you'll just end up with the limitless power of government that the US now has today.
>>81380924
This exactly. Once we have a mom-culture libertarian ideals can exist. Until then...
>>81385214
Can I fuck off? Why? Because jews like you don't like people knowing the truth? Gas yourself.
>>81380394
In reality, it's simple.
Libertarianism, at its core, has one mantra: "Live and let live". This is an awesome policy, if and only if everyone in the world follows it.
The radical left took advantage of this viewpoint that was shared by honestly the silent majority to push their agenda unopposed, using this agenda against those who did by amplifying political correctness.
In disgust, and in reaction, /pol/'s (and the silent majority of people's) heart hardened, and realized that unless everyone is a Libertarian, then nobody can actually live as one without being enslaved by another person, ideology, or whatever.
We tried being the good guys, to open ourselves to the world, and the world showed us just how evil it really can be. Now we are forced to defend our homes, our livelihoods, our children and our countrymen from this scourge, and the best defense is a good offense.
>>81380853
Yes but most of the scum abusing that wouldn't bother because they can't leech off of the host country like the left would allow
>>81381398
>spreading ally propaganda
JIDF pls
>>81380394
posts that contain the word "predominantly" should receive an auto-ban
>>81385154
Socialist? What?
>>81383485
Feels good to be finnic germanic
>>81385287
Wouldn't strong border controls just assure the security of the people ? Why do we need a fascist police state for that ?
I'm in favor of secure borders but why should our free speech and freedoms be supressed ? What do we have to gain from that ?
This is the problem with /pol/, many edgelords here believe that they are le epic nazis because they want closed borders.
>>81380394
4chan is whatever is anti-mainstream at the time, so during the height of the bush period when the site really took off it was full blown anarchist, 8 years ago when it was either going to be a new right wing or left wing president it was anti-mainstream to be libertarian so ron paul was our lord and savoir, but then obama got into power so being socially liberal wasnt edgy anymore so the christian shit started up, but thats dying out as the Trump style nationalism is the new counter culture even evangelical republicans get triggered by, and when Hillary wins this place will be MGTOW as all hell and newfags will deny it was ever rejected as anti-family
>>81384297
A large part of the Republican base is still cucked on the Israel issue, and rabidly supports military cooperation with Israel. The issue is very much still current amongst the mainstream cuckservatives. In fact, it's kinda been their form of virtue signalling.
He needs their votes, and needed to make a compelling appeal to "mainstream Republicans." Shit situation, but that's what you get when you let kikes run Wall Street, corporations, the entertainment industry and the news media.
He is the closest thing we'll ever get to a viable nationalist presidential candidate short of a revolution, even though he doesn't fit a historical definition of the word.
>>81385387
>t. polack living in Germany
>>81380394
HAHAHAHA
YOU THINK YOURE THOUGH UH ?
I HAVE ONE WORD FOR YOU
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GET IT ?
I DONT THINK SO
OK YOU FUQIN ANGERED A TRUE CONSERVATIVE
THIS IS /pol/
YOU ARE ALLOWED TO POST HERE ONLY IF YOU LOVE THE WHITE RACE
POLITICS IS ALL ABOUT ``OLD-FASHIONED MORALS'' THAT YOU WILL NEVER COMPREHEND
I HAVE READ EPBP
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CONSERVATIVISM AND NATIONALISM ARE THE ULTIMATE POLITICS
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The only reason libertarianism became popular in the late 00's was because Jews needed a way to sell off welfare services to save their own asses during the financial crisis. This is quite well documented. The Jews used young people as pawns because youngsters are easy as fuck to manipulate.
Nationalsocialism is becoming popular because it has always been what the people wants. The elite can't hold the people back anymore. Ironic that THE STATE wants libertarianism and liberalism, while the people wants authoritanism.
We realized that fighting government overreach is:
A) futile in a society with no shortage of bread and circuses
B) would result in weaker policies that do (or theoretically could/should) benefit citizens such as border control and safety net programs
C) would leave a power vacuum which would be happily filled by (((individuals))) with self serving interests
By no means am I a neo-Nazi outside of funposting about how I destroyed my family's microwave to save us from the electromagnetic jew, but I do identify as leaning toward the alt-right.
Laissez-faire capitalism has been at the root of our society since Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. The social changes that have come about since then are a consequence. Feminism is hugely profitable because it gets women working, and it makes women better consumers -- at the expense of traditional families. Immigration is profitable for similar reasons, masses of cheap labour driving down wages. There's no thought or desire too degenerate as long as enough people think and want it for it to be profitable, and businesses spend exorbitant sums making people want and want and want. The only freedom that comes with capitalism is the freedom to be a degenerate, and it comes at the expense of everything sacred and beautiful.
>>81385464
I suppose georgists would be close, but that's not accurate either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcUZrDX5P7A
>>81380394
I'm a libertarian. Also unapologetically white, nationalist, individualist. Stop strawmanning, people you pretend are "neo-nazi" because they speak truth about niggers are most likely libertarian like me.
>>81380394
It's because people in the top-most / left-most position on the political compass, make up maybe 5% of the population - Yet get half the media coverage, and they're 50 times louder than anyone else.
Judem. niggers and mudskins destroy everything!!
>>81385518
>He is the closest thing we'll ever get to a viable nationalist presidential candidate short of a revolution, even though he doesn't fit a historical definition of the word.
Yeah and this is your fucking problem. A truly red-pilled person would know that you can't change anything through the political system. It's broken. It has too much jewish influence. You NEED a revolution. There is no other solution. The jews want you to think you can still make America great again through the political system, because then you won't bother with an armed revolution. You're just giving them more time to corrupt and destroy.
I fucking hate you gullible americans.
>>81383714
Hitler wanted Germany to be a Republic, he was faced with a completely deteriorated situation in his country and Authoritarian rule was the only real way to do what needed to be done.
We definitely are going to need to suspend the Constitution for a few years to genocide all the spics and mudslimes and send the niggers back to Africa, but then we can reinstate it fully.
>>81385348
I would agree with you wholeheartedly except that I would also include the far right trying to co-opt victimization as well. How many times have you heard hard right Christians trying to play the opressed card. Its a two way street of fuckery.
>>81380394
The longer you research, the wiser you become. You already knew this was the answer.
>>81385336
You started off calling half of Europe non white
Then you talked shit about Germany being forced to take migrants
Followed by calling Trump a Jew.
Every response to you has been negative. You are a fucking faggot fuck off. You have not made one post about Ron paul or the progression of /pol/
>>81385762
The christians who do that aren't hard right by any means, they're more or less neocons with a cross.
>>81382068
> If the government says it's legal to kill all newborn girls, I see nothing wrong with that.
>>81385762
>faggot detected
>>81385809
>You started off calling half of Europe non white
Mongrels are not white. Why is that so hard for you americans to understand? Is it because most of you are mongrels yourself? You don't want to admit this truth? Slavs are not white, and neither are meds.
>Then you talked shit about Germany being forced to take migrants
When the fuck did I do that?
>Followed by calling Trump a Jew.
I never said that Trump is a jew, I said that he's a jew supporter (which he clearly is).
>Every response to you has been negative.
No shit, I wonder why. Could it be shills? Or just brainwashed retards like you?
>You have not made one post about Ron paul
BECAUSE VOTING IS FUTILE YOU FUCKING BLUE-PILLED RETARD. Get it in your fat fucking head. >>81385703
National Socialism is a fraud, a post-modernist movement designed for the personal gain of its leaders. Right-wing fascism is the only true form of government which puts emphasis on honor, glory, tradition, race realism, basic human rights, individual liberties, strong national heritage, so on and so forth. And a world war isn't required for a fascist government to feed its people.
>>81380394
>>>81380691
>libertarians are fags. they'd allowed the same open border policy that left would
Truth
On libertarianism and free trade:
I'd consider myself somewhat conservative, but lately I've been tackling the issue of free trade vs. protectionism. I'm absolutely against illegal immigration and feel that immigration should be limited and highly regulated, but trading with another culture from afar is not the same as inviting it into your home.
Is protectionism economically beneficial for a country's citizens? Is it ideologically sound (i.e. good)?
>>81385498
You don't need to give up on any of those things. I just said you can have as many civil liberties as you want. Fascism and totalitarianism do not really go hand in hand imo. That has been attached to it after the fact. Ultimately if freedom is the best thing for your people, then they shall be free.
Removing outside groups and dissidents who would infringe on those freedoms will contradict this outlook, however. But it is a hypocrisy you have to live with if you want to keep your liberties.
>>81386117
Fuck off you moron.
None of this has to do with Ron paul 2012 and how so many have become Nazi's since then
Fucking kill yourself
>>81386117
Dude you're a fucking fag. Nobody likes you here, nobody gives a fuck about your opinions.
>>81380394
Trump.
>>81385703
U son of a bitch tell that tale of revolution to your mother,
What good will do a revolution? Here in Spain have one and cost hundred of thousands of lives to fix that revolution.
Always constructive non destructive. Tell that tale to stupid one-neuronal kids.
libertarianism is a dead meme
>>81386213
People get way too ideological about economics. Libertarians especially mix their entire morality within economics, it is a disgusting outlook. The answer is, sometimes. Sometimes it would be a greater good to dabble in protectionism. Sometimes free trade and comparative advantage taking care of things would be best.
>>81386248
/pol/ isn't a nazi board and I've explained why.
>>81386364
Why the fuck would I care what someone else thinks of me?
>>81380394
The same time the left went nuts and turned into a SJW fart box.
>>81382058
This model is perfect when you don't invite hordes of barbarians into the country.
>>81380394
Because libertarianism us a cancer to society.
>>81380394
we're national anarchists
Trump literally blamed (((them))) for 9/11. He has no obligations to the Jews besides making sure they vote for what he's showing himself off to them as, as a "True Conservative™." I'm not saying he should or will put them in camps at all, but I'm saying he could and possible will do a 180 on the Jews.
>>81385621
Yeah but what happened to you between 2012 and now?
Did you support Ron Paul like most of us?
>>81386417
What good will do a revolution? Take the american revolution as an example you stupid fuck. Just because you moor mongrels are too incapable of having a successful revolution that doesn't mean it's the case for everyone. A revolution is needed to cure the west of all this filth. That's the truth.
>>81386117
>Slavs are not white, and neither are meds.
You won't convince /pol/ of this. But you are correct. Slavs have been our buffer against mongoloid migration and meds did the same against arabs. Northern europeans and those two groups are different but the differences are less dramatic than say, between a Nordic and a Negro.
>>81386539
There are millions of Nazi's on this board.
>>81380394
libertarianism = feudalism
>>81380853
walls dont just keep people out
they also keep you in
>>81385034
A libertarian who supports a national welfare state isn't a libertarian at all.
>>81386093
Fuck off leaf I'm straight and fucking married to a fucking awesome woman who is a pro individualist freedom as I am.
Fuck no, a business has always had a right to refuse service for any reason (at least in the USA) despite what the conservative might have you believe. The problem is that this Christian business decided be fucking attention whores and drag that shit out to make a point.
Ron, we haven't abandoned you, we're just taking a shortcut to get to your vision.
Physical removal of communists and minorities followed by a closing of the border to nonwhites and a rewritten constitution that guarantees that these things can never be voted in again is what's needed. It's the only quick path to libertarianism.
>>81380394
>How did /pol/ change from a predominantly libertarian forum
we realized that libertarianism can be defeated by A FUCKING ROAD
>>81386209
>>libertarians are fags. they'd allowed the same open border policy that left would
Many libertarians prefer Trump over Johnson, specifically because they side more with Trump's immigration policy.
What you just said is no better than the idea that every conservative and every liberal believes the same things. Everybody has to fit into the cookie-cutter mould.
>>81385703
>>81386117
I don't hate you Swedebro. We're far more in agreement than we disagree. But fomenting revolution just won't work right now unless Trump gets assassinated. The Jews control too much, like you say. The narrative, the culture of ideas and public discourse, the public's very minds. It's changing right now, but I think more redpilling still needs to happen.
>>81380394
>neo nazi
We're nazis, not "neo" nazis. Nazis are educated, neo nazis are untermensch imbeciles that yell at niggers in rallies like idiots.
>>81386906
Because rich countries don't have airplanes right.
This is why people hate you.
You just parroted a focus tested bumper sticker. Thats all your mind could come up with to contribute to this conversation.
A fucking bumper sticker
>>81385621
>Laissez-faire capitalism has been at the root of our society
This has literally never been the case. The USA is the most radically cronyist country in human history and has been for decades. Government and big business have expanded radically and work in total cooperation. It is nigh on impossible for individuals to advance economically without creating entirely new industries (see the tech boom, also see the government's increasing efforts at regulating the internet to ensure no more of their corporate friends are unseated by upstarts). Laissez-faire America is a myth invented in the late 1800s by the kikes and even today retards like you buy it it hook, line and sinker.
Ron Paul my nigga for life.
>>81386707
Fuck u captain Sweden,
Revolution to fuck the order, the law, the religion, the people, the family values, the sexual orientation.
U dont know what u are saying, people need to be like block of ice, not like fire fucking everithing arround,
Oh look a revolutionary, wow that's so cool!, stupid blue pilleds, U need organization, stability, tradition, family and order, the rest will come by itself.
>>81380394
it was the russians
>>81381398
>being a d&c shill
Yeah fuck off Schlomo
>>81386539
JIDF detected
Libertarians are too autistic and simplistic in their ideas. They are not practical and will never happen.
Almost every tribe or every society elects a leader. Humans naturally work this way. Just going free willy is never going to fly.
Most important issue is immigration(a permanent policy). Economics and everything else can change from year to year. I am a one issue voter. I'll even vote socialist if they have right wing immigration ideals.
>>81380394
Because it is the logical conclusion of libertarianism.
>>81387189
It took 3 attempts to get us to have a central bank.
>>81386215
Tyranny can also just be avoided all together with strong property rights. But once again a democratic government will always expand more tyrannically than say a monarchy would. If you accept the fact that you need to have a government to protect yourself from outside groups then it is better to have one man to fight than a multi-faced beuraccracy like we live in today. Liberal democracies prevent revolution and lead to ever-expanding tyranny.
>>81387283
Polish is not a race.
>>81387189
There's literally nothing a libertarian can do to prevent crony capitalism from developing. It's inevitable. You hold up profit as the highest ideal and say - have at it! People have at it and finally manage to rig the game in their favour for maximum profit. How can you then cry foul? It ignores the complexities of people and institutions and the baser nature of humans, which is brought out especially in a capitalist society. Libertarianism is idealistic pap.
>>81387462
This
>Why didn't it work it should have worked
Answer: Jews and niggers
I love Ron.
But islam isn't gonna free market itself to dust.
>>81386994
>closing of the border
Don't know about the US, but if the Muslims and Africans storming into Sweden were only given housing and welfare by voluntary providers, we probably wouldn't need borders at all. Because at the end of the day, no one really wants to live with, or pay for, those people.
>>81387435
>Almost every tribe or every society elects a leader
There is nothing stopping you, and like-minded people, from electing leaders in a libertarian society. The only thing is that you can't force that leadership upon others.
>>81385762
Because Christians ARE actually oppressed you faggot.
>>81382776
You've got it backwards, retard. Regulated economies only hurt the those at the bottom, because those at the top can buy politicians, effectively making any sufficiently large company part of the government.
Unregulated economies lack the delusional belief in an "authority" with the exclusive right to point guns at people justly, so there's no concentration of wealth with one group. The best preventative measure the world can have against tyranny is open competition. Governments only ever stifle competition.
If Ameircan labor was more competitive,
there would be no demand for immagrants.
>>81387949
Why would a company want to hire someone that needed 3+ breaks during a shift to go pray?
Libertarianism is incompatible with nonwhites.
>>81387522
>Polish is not a race
wat
>>81387116
lol you think the bourgeoisie will let you use their airplanes when they declare martial law?
nice meme
>>81380616
>>81381123
"Control the memes, control the planet"-Moonman
>>81386906
I agree, but you are looking at individuals. Not at groups.If 50 americans choose to relocate to mexico there is no problem. If 100 million americans move to mexico, mexico doesn't exist anymore.
How does libertarian respond to that ?
>>81380394
The realization that our nation and our way of life is in great peril and that libertarians aren't motivated enough or hardline enough to do jack fucking shit about it.
If Trumpism doesn't succeed now, there won't be an America left to support libertarianism later.
>>81387435
>Libertarians are too autistic and simplistic in their ideas. They are not practical and will never happen.
Just because you tout something as being really advanced and complex, doesn't mean it's a good idea. Nor does labeling something as "simplistic" actually make it true, nor does that make it a bad thing if it is true. Most issues really are quite simple, and 99% of the time it's a really easy and obvious decision, and all you need is the non-aggression principle.
>>81388335
what is wrong with mexico not existing anymore?
nations are defined by who has the most power in the region not the region itself
whomever has the greater will to survive will win
