Hey fags, what is this?
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754171162708631552
Early jumping to conclusions much?
HELP IM BEING DELTE !
REMEMBER THE MEDIA IS ON THE SIDE OF ERDOGAN AND THE ISLAM-LOVING GLOBALISTS
DON'T BELIEVE THEIR LIES
>>81264889
Yes!!!!
Fight for a free and secular Turkey!
All this proves is that the coup has someone on their side that knows how to do some hacking.
>>81265605
This. If you're watching CNN you've been seeing American army top brass and other government shills parroting the Erdogan "all is well" propaganda line. The American government desperately wants Erdogan to come out on top. Don't trust the mainstream media on this issue (or ever, duh).
coup pls happen
>>81266183
(user was executed by Erdogan for this post)
>>81266183
How chaotic is it where you live?
Wait, is the coup not a bunch of Muslims as well?
>>81266183
As an american generally unaware of the motivations of the various factions in this conflict, what will happen if the coup does succeed?
How much more do you think will the region be destabilized by this event, regardless of if i succeeds or fails?
>>81266183
GET OUT OF TURKEY YOU GOD DAMN IDIOT
>>81266307
its kurds from what I understand
>>81266331
>what will happen if the coup does succeed?
Separation of Church and State. Horrible, right?
>>81266387
yes goy please move into a white country like goymoney
Maybe the CNN blackout should have lasted longer
>>81266307
Military are secular freedom lovers defending the Turkish constitution from Islam.
Government are Islamic fascists who want to turn Turkey into a Caliphate.
If Erdogan wins this war, he will expand his power even further and became a full blown theocratic dictator.
>>81266387
no monies
>>81266331
if they are as secularist as they said curfew for a few months then democratic re elections without islamism
>>81266295
well i had a bomb dropped 5km to me
>>81266246
enjoy having tyrone repossess your pc cuz of black opreshun
>>81266014
This this this. Commie News Network has been masturbating to that tune all night.
Why would anyone believe what the STATE RUN roach news network is saying? Of course fox is one of the only outlets not calling this yet. MSM in general is a crap shoot, this isn't over yet (even if it is propped up by President Roach) I don't care what anyone says. Those pro-coup in the capital are going to go down kicking and screaming.
>>81266331
It will stabilize, Erdogan is the one that supports ISIS, makes a path for muslims to invade Europe, is anti-Syrian, anti-Russian, anti-NATO and anti-Christian. He's basically in this position, cause he helps the west with their Syrian circus and he has a border with Iran and is the first fightning force with Russia, I mean neither Romania, nor Bulgaria, nor Greece will fight Russia in Europe, only Turkey. Turkey also controls Black sea traffic from the outside.
tl;dr; He's a strategic partner to NATO and the USA, but he's a millitant Islamist supporting IS.
>>81264889
>what is this
It's a confirmation that the coup has failed and the civil war has begun
rip in peace roachistan
>>81266470
you misunderstand. I also don't even understand why there's a coup in the first place.
>>81266702
The media is going on about how much the people of Turkey are supporting Erdogan, to what extent does that appear to be true?
And if it is true to a wide extent across the country, wouldn't a democratic goverment just wind up electing people that are in a similar vein to Erdogan?
>>81266929
Actually the opposite, this is the coup faction saying it's not over.
>>81266978
Cause the coup faction is secular and they hate Erdogan's islamist agenda. He basically wants to establish sharia law, he wants to bring back arabic alphabet and so on and so forth.
>>81264889
>https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754171162708631552
>>81265627
I posted translations 15 mins ago before anyone else on the internet did.
>>81267168
how come I wasn't aware of this?
>>81266978
false flag to consolidate power to Erdogan, or a US sponsored coup to remove Erdogan and put someone more controllable in power after Erdogan pivoted toward normalizing relations with Russia.
>>81267168
>Cause the coup faction is secular and they hate Erdogan's islamist agenda. He basically wants to establish sharia law, he wants to bring back arabic alphabet and so on and so forth.
There is a reason why Obama and Clinton support Erdogan.
>>81267137
I think anyone who doesn't support erdogan is inside letting the military do the work.
>>81266929
>civil war has begun
Let's bet and see how long it takes MSM to start calling it what it is.
>>81267137
Yes, are ANY of the citizens pro-coup? Istanbul is cucked, but what about Ankara? I heard on either fox or sky news that the rural parts of the country are pro-roach president so what gives?
>>81267137
at least where I live everyone is supporting AKP and they're very islamistic, it was like an overnight values change, people who talked about how much they enjoy not wearing veils and being able to drink now are koran thumping and shouting snackbars, snakes and hypocrites everywhere. they're very fanatical and violent, that's why prob the coup was a good idea, they would force secularism on everyone and make it better for the less retarded
>>81266856
Seems to me that no matter who wins, the region is going to experience massive destabilization, which will likely lead to further involvement of the west and Russia.
Guess we're in for yet another war in the region :L
>>81267258
Jews?
>>81267408
Places like ankara and izmir are generally occupied by intellectuals and western oriented people so they might have a chance. I personally am ashamed of living in this city right now with all these primitive fundamentalist monkeys
>>81267258
Cause American citizens never wage war on facts, but on feelings. I'd be suprised if even 3% of American citizens understood global polilitics.
If American citizens understood what was happening, you wouldn't support Saudi Arabia and you wouldn't have bombed Serbs and you wouldn't be against Russia.
>>81267412
Civil war when?
For real though, it sounds like things are a mess, do you think the military has any real chance of seizing and holding the entire nation, or just parts of it, like what's happening in Syria?
>>81267634
YES!!!
THE POLICE ARE ERDOGAN'S MINIONS, DESTROY THEM!!!
>>81267596
well I don't support saudia Arabia or bombing serbs (God was a serb after all) but Russia is kind of up in the air for me. I've heard their government is very corrupt.
>>81265605
>>81266014
If the coup fails, I'd love to hear stories of torture and mass execution
The West is too cucked to do anything if that happens. For how much they all praise freedom, they do nothing but disagree about the arrests of thousands for insulting Erdogan
>>81267634
this made me lol a lot
Just imagined a tank leaving a base seeing a barricade and shooting a shell at it, driving right through
IT'S HABBENING
Godspeed bratanek
>>81267903
Russia tho
And with what's happened between Russia and Turkey lately, I wonder if Putin will take this chance to ah, move in move forces in the region.
>>81267489
It will stabilize, Turkey is under direct control from the US, if some destabilization incident happens, so that the controlling government does not reply directly to the US, US troops will be in Turkey. Generally, there are currently two alternatives, a secular government, or a kurdish party. The kurds are islamists, but are contained in their own shit politics, while seculars are pro-western and pro-Russia at the same time, this would be the best alternative. The worst one will be if Erdogan gets killed and another worse, more millitant, islamist Erdogan comes in his place, then shit will hit the fan, cause Turkey will certainly try to do some shit at our and the Greek border and shit will hit the fan. Both us and the Greeks are trigger happy. There is not one soldier in our millitary that isn't trigger happy at the thought of killing turks, we're just not genocidal like the Serbs or stupid, we always play on both sides like the jews.
>>81267310
>There is a reason why Obama and Clinton support Erdogan.
USA coup when?
>Is this why Kerry and Putin had a meeting?
>>81267561
Yeah if you're the same college anon from earlier you should get the hell outta dodge when you get the opportunity.
>>81267661
I think they've successfully made the transition from coup to civil war. If not not it's in the works over the next few days if not hours.
WHY IS RT SHILLING FOR ERDOGAN MOOOOOOO
>be an autistic semi-normal fag
>hear about the truck multikill in france
>doh well
>wake up and hear about a coup in turkey
>another multikill
This is europa, can we get some fucking peace and quiet?
>>81268170
US troops are already in Turkey though, we have some bases there.
I think if the situation destabilizes bad enough though, the US might just pull out,
>>81267838
Well, how did your opinion reflect on real life events? Did you vote? Maybe, but a ton of Americans voted for Obama, a ton of Americans voted for whoever was your president during the Kosovo wars, and they did not protest the bombings of Serbia, did someone protest your involvement in Ukraine? What about Lybia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan?
Nope, nope, nope and nope.
I said most American citizens, not all, but still most Americans don't understand what their country is fighting for abroad. In reality America's foreign "interventions" have brought so much misery to the world, the world views you as demonic warmongers.
>>81267561
pls stay safe turk-bro
Look at the heroes of the coup. They may fail but they did what was best for their nation.
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754179039213023232
>>81264889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA
>based soldier
>>81268345
Because RT is, always has been, and forever will be permanently and irreparably cucked
>>81268631
probably because our government IS a demonic warmonger and also because most Americans are Idiots. I'm too busy trying to change the way things are done here to really worry too much about what's going on in the rest of the world.
I am well aware that Military Intervention abroad is treacherous.
>>81268522
You can't, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing .
That's not all, Turkey is in NATO and all escalations towards other NATO members will be met aggressively by the US. If us or Greeks cannot rely on the US to enforce NATO relations, we might as well construct Russian bases here, what's the point of NATO then?
I find it odd that there seems to be very little footage of actual firefights between each side of this conflict. I've seen a couple of gunships firing and a few tanks idly rolling on, and a few scuffles with civvies and such, but little in the way of straight up urban combat. Am I simply mistaken or am I on to something here? If I'm right, what's the explanation for these things?
>>81264889
Coup is now transitioning into a Civil War. The fact that Erdogen wasn't deposed and or killed in the first few hours, and that total control of the country wasn't sealed by morning means that the Coup has by and large failed.
>>81268631
>implying American votes matter when it comes to elections
>>81268690
Holy shiiiiiit
>>81268889
Don't take me wrong, I'm not blaming you or your people, your government is at fault, but still, a government's fault is infact its people's fault, cause they elected it and let it operate. That's why we're a shithole, our people are too lazy/stupid to force our government to do its job properly.
>>81268690
oh shit....
>>81268690
IF EVERYONE WOULD JUST BE FUCKING NICE TO EACH OTHER AND WORK TOGETHER NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE TO FUCKING HAPPEN SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT
>>81268631
republicans generally support these wars
democrats generally don't care enough for it to be a voting issue. If dem then it's okay.
however over the years Repubs have backed off of war after seeing what happened in afghanistan and iraq.
democrats continue to wage war as if nothing happened because they're the progressive party. it's a non issue to them seeing as they're voting for hillary
Also, are there any "based" types in this conflict, or are all sides just t*rkroaches?
>>81268117
Whoever wins this on either side of this coup will still be part of NATO
Putin is not retarded
>>81269056
I'll say you are half right. Our government hasnt repersented the people close to 100 years.
There is just too much propaganda and distraction for the normal citizen to realize it.
>>81268928
A bunch of civs got either gunned down or run over in Ankara. Other than that it's mostly been
>army takes over place
>hordes of angry islamists surround said place
>military does not want to shoot and kill turkish civilians
>get arrested
At least that's Istanbul
Since apparently islamists have no problem murdering captured soldiers I hope that, if the coup still has life, the rest of the military wises up.
Then again mowing down a bunch of civilians, even if they're violent islamists, is a good way to get everyone in the country to hate you. So far there's no reason to think the military side has enough *passionate* support to start some sort of mini civil war
>>81269367
Since JFK I would say we have not been represented
>>81264889
People have been saying "it's over" all fucking night, even like a half hour after combat started.
>>81268643
This
>>81268905
If the Turkish nation collapses though, is it still truly a NATO member?
Regardless, I rather do think that troops and materials will start to be pulled out as the situation progresses, not all of them obviously, the US does need to protect its assets, but things will be getting pulled out. Might have a bit of an economic impact in the short-term.
>>81269317
Moving forces into the region != invading Turkey though, Putin often acts aggressive when the west has moments like this, most likely he will be moving in more forces under the guise of combating IS, which makes me wonder at his reasoning for already having done so recently, and then these events happening.
Should be interesting to say the least.
>>81269239
>this is what leftists actually believe
>>81269601
This desu. I been hearing it's over since 9 pm
>>81269640
Ahh the hold hands and sing kumbaya strat because people are just people m8
>>81267137
>The media is going on about how much the people of Turkey are supporting Erdogan, to what extent does that appear to be true?
Erdogan enjoys a very wide support, he's been reelected several times.
Don't be fooled by the relative liberal stances in places such as Constantinople, Turkey is inherently a conservative country.
And a lot of people who aren't supporting him are against the coup, because Turkey has a history of military coups and people don't want it anymore, they want to uphold democracy.
>>81269279
There's no difference between republicans and democrats government wise, both will wage war, you need to elect a person, not a party, that's why Trump should be elected.
>>81269605
>If the Turkish nation collapses though, is it still truly a NATO member?
Not sure, but what I'm sure about is that the European economy would take a mild hit from destabilization of Turkey, like 1-2% drop, which is nothing really. If you see export tables and such, Turkey is reliant on Europe, not the opposite. What Europe relies on Turkey is to keep those monkeys out of Europe(immigrants), which they are unable to do, be it on purpose or not, so we need turkey's help no more.
>>81268690
those poor innocent civilians on top of the tank trying to kill the soldiers
such a sad day
>>81269925
He is popular but extremely polarizing. I'd say it is about a 55/45 split at this point in his favor.
>>81269924
>and when that doesn't work, we'll pop badthinkers in the back of the head and kick them into a mass grave!
leftist plan B
>>81269925
>they want to uphold democracy.
Islamofascism is not democracy. This is why you keep getting raped by Muslims you dumb frog.
>>81267137
Yes, he is democratically elected. A failed coup today is a win for democracy.
I'd love for the coup to succeed, though, every dead roach is a holiday for my ears.
>>81270039
So true, and something people aren't mentioning
>>81270123
>communism not even once
>>81270175
He was democratically elected, whether you like it or not, fucking retard.
As much as I wanted the coup to succeed and have him hanged, it's still a victory for democracy.
>>81269925
>Erdogan enjoys a very wide support, he's been reelected several times.
The media are fucking shills, if you change Erdogan to Putin they'd say the total opposite, about how the election is rigged or some shit.
>>81270017
True that, I wonder if Brussels will still be pushing for Turkey to be accepted into the EU after this though.
Knowing them, probably.
>>81270218
Democracy is a sham and a failed form of goverment however, the will of the people is often easily misguided. Remember that Iran willingly became what it is today, by the will of its people.
>>81265635
#basedturkey
>>81270372
Yes, because imprisoning anyone who criticizes you and ethnically cleansing non-Muslims is what true democracy looks like.
Dumb frog.
>all pro-Erdogan media unaffected
>social media taken down
>Erdogan supporters organized before he even calls them out
>senior military officials didn't know shit about the operation
Who here seriously believes this wasn't a false flag be Erdogan?
Is there a forum slide in effect?
>>81266014
Absolutely- they made sure to say "THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED Erdogan is now speaking..."
Uh oh
>>81270692
a false flag to flush out potentional dissesdents and charge anti-erdogan politicans,journalists,normal people
this is fucking 4D chess indeed
>>81270447
Elections weren't rigged, people are just retarded and gullible, and living in countries without a deeply rooted democratic culture.
>>81270638
When these things are made possible by laws from freely elected representatives, yes, it's a democracy.
Stop posting, you're being retarded.
>>81270372
Democracy doesn't work anymore. They've learned that all they need to do is to make babies, and then we can't say anything.
>>81270459
>Democracy is a sham
I don't think so, everybody can for themselves see the truth, if I can, they can, if they are too lazy or stupid to be able to do it themselves, so be it, that's the way of humanity.
I'm saying this, but at the same time I'm for a totalitarian government build around socialistic? capitalism. Soviet countries were sort of on the right path, Nazi Germany was almost there. Too much democracy and freedom like in the US and the worst possible kinds of individualism, consumerism and corporatism step right in.
>>81271052
Pure majoritarian democracy has never worked well. The US certainly isn't one, and that was quite intentional.
>>81271044
Ahh yes, the "he was elected democratically so his anti-democracy policies are democratic" argument.
>>81270905
that man is a hero
>>81269925
probably the best answer all night.
>>81271378
>anti-democracy policies
Name them.
REMINDER THAT THE COUP HAS FAILED. A SMALL GROUP OF TERRORISTS ATTEMPTED TO SEIZE POWER USING SHARP STICKS AND A FEW LARGE ROCKS, BUT THESE METHODS RESULTED IN MINIMAL PROPERTY DAMAGE. THE GOVERNMENT WAS VICTORIOUS.
PLEASE COME VISIT TURKEY. IT IS VERY NICE. WE WILL NOT ROB YOU.
>>81271506
>media suppression
>arresting journalists
>arresting, demoting and prosecuting opposition under false evidence
>seeking special presidential powers
Kill yourself you faggot shill
>>81270372
>>81271044
Democracy isn't supposed to be mob rule, that's why there should be a constitution to protect basic human rights and principles like state and church separation, a mass of people has no more right to violate these than a king or dictator, you should know better France.
>>81271177
I wonder if there are any forms of true Democracy that might work, particularly with the advances in technology.
For that matter, I wonder why no one's made a form of goverment centered around/based on modern technology?
>>81268345
Erdogon is Russian friend now.
>>81271506
>gassing rioters
>killing kurds who vote for third party candidate
>bribing politicians to follow him
>>81271506
I'm glad France gets attacked by ISIS regularly.
Too dumb to live.
>>81271682
wow!
just like...hmmm...just like in US woah...
>>81270372
Hey, the ruling party in Turkey supports ISIS. You know, those guys the shoot up, and run over your people with trucks. The military is trying to overthrow them. Yet, guess what, the people don't give a shit. They love Islamic terrorism ever if they bombed and shot as well. The problem is that doesn't make it legal. State-sponsored terrorism is grounds for foreign backed intervention. Unfortunately, US backs Erdogan, and would never allow an intervention in the security council, effectively keeping ISIS alive.
>>81271707
Because technology can be hacked.
>>81271843
Not even close.
>>81271843
We had a politician call Obama a pussy on live TV and fox talks shit about him all the time. People talk badly of him on social media.
None of them have been arrested
Please shut the fuck up pasta child
>>81271682
Exactly the examples I was expecting, and it doesn't make Turkey an undemocratic country, only a shitty democracy with a power-hungry authoritarian asshole who would rule as an absolute sovereign if he could.
He's still there by the will of the people, and so is his government, and the laws allowing the things you're talking about can be found in most Western democracies. He's just abusing them like crazy.
It's a democracy, whether you like it or not.
>>81268471
>turkey
>europa
>>81268690
>>81271843
You do realize in the USA you can do pretty much anything short of calling for open rebellion?
>>81272254
>we prosecute people who reveal the US crimes
>CNN costantly covers up everything that is against nignogs and Hillary
>CNN is just one of the many gov schills
>"""mysterious suicides"""
>>81266830
>Commie News Network
kys
>>81272276
Please show me the parts in US law that allows you to imprison journalists, shut down social media, and murder opposition at will. Otherwise have a bleach martini
>>81272841
>defending CNN ever
>>81272632
>mystery suicides
I wish fox news would just kill themselves without the mystery
>>81266014
Absolutely this. When I woke up and saw this shit in the mainstream headlines I didn't even bother paying attention.
>>81271843
>and in America they are lynching negros
>>81272517
I mean, technically you can call for a rebellion; you just can't take part in it yourself.
>>81272882
Journalists aren't imprisoned indiscriminately.
Social medias aren't shut down indiscriminately.
They all operates within the frame given by the law, laws that are democratically enacted, whether you agree with their spirit or not. I personally don't.
Still, there's literally no debate about Turkey being a democracy or not, it's one, deal with it.
I won't address "opposition being murdered at will", because you're just being retarded and/or uneducated.
>>81274323
>defending Erdogan this hard
Where's a truck when you need one?
>>81274565
Are you fucking retarded? I've been supporting the coup ever since it started.
>>81274797
stop feeding the troll
>>81274323
>>81272276
>He's still there by the will of the people, and so is his government, and the laws allowing the things you're talking about can be found in most Western democracies.
I'll take that as your unconditional surrender. Good night erdo-kike
>>81275595
Sweet dreams pansy boor.
>>81266702
>democratic re elections
Pretty sure the elcetions putting Erdogan in power were democratic. You really think turkish people will bend over and not vote AKP. Or do you think they will ban the AKP? Would be very democratic of them.
