Why won't the west just work with Russia?
>>81124030
>Obama
Russia is unpredictable, give them an inch and they take a mile
But I want the US and Russia to work together
>>81124030
Don't know. Aussies should definitely though
>>81124030
The West needs an adversary to justify its spending on its military-industrial complex. Currently, Muslims are in fashion as victims, so Obama and friends have sprung for naming Russia as the bad guy.
For the same reasons we support Israel.
>>81124030
Thats literally why NATO is there
>>81124030
Because the terrorists aren't using conventional tactics. We send armies and they scatter into our populace and decay society from the inside out.
We complain or protest and we're shot down on the grounds of spreading hatred.
The only option is to take a very heavy handed stance on this, but nobody is willing to accept the consequences of that notion.
>>81124030
Allahu akbar kuffar, that's why.
>>81124030
Oil, money and power.
NATO is set up to counter Russian ambition.
>>81125013
>NATO is set up to counter Russian ambition.
>imblying NATO isn't leaching moni from goyims
>>81124030
Because we can accidentally grab Baltics or Poland.
Speaking of which, what happened to thoe Rouble threads?
>>81125446
>Russian minority in Latvia accidentally riots.
>Russia accidentally supports the minorites.
>Latvia accidentally becomes Russian clay.
Wew lad.
>>81124030
The west is trudeau
If you kill your enemies, they win
>>81125446
But that's a good thing, comrade, eh?
>>81124030
I still crack up when they call it a "Nice terror attack"
>>81124030
because russia broke international treaties that were in place since ww2, for the west to work with would in sense ligitimize their actions. this would cause political and societal turmoil, the likes of which we have not seen.
open up a history book, and read about the events prior to ww2, luckily the west(at least the leaders, at least now) learned its lesson and will not trifle with treaty breakers, and instead stand in clear opposition to such acts.
>>81126024
Butthurt khohol
>>81124030
>>81124256
Don't be naive. Russia actively works against US interests. The United States is intent on taking down the Syrian government. They refuse to use the petrodollar. Russia is for keeping them intact for this very reason.
Terrorism is just the sideshow and justification both sides use to gain approval for their actions.
>>81126154
shut up katsap, grownups are talking.
>>81126024
>russia broke international treaties that were in place since ww2
Like Nato did.
>for the west to work with would in sense ligitimize their actions
Like anybody cares.
>open up a history book, and read about the events prior to ww2
>proto ukr and history
>>81126273
>grownups are talking.
>imblying he isn't underage ukrainian shill
>>81124030
Russia is our excuse to oil up the war machine and play around with cool vehicles in some desert shithole.
Then some fuckers took this game way too serious and started siding with the crying black kids whose sandcastle got run over for the 3rd time that day instead of playing Cops and Robbers with the slav boy and now we're in this shitty mess.
Moral of the story:
Don't play with black children.
literally what is guerilla warfare
that said i'd love to invade another country
>>81124030
Because this entire mess regarding terrorism is directly caused by the US, Russia, israel and saudi arabia fucking with the middle east for control.
If they peacefully worked together in the beginning instead of having proxy wars and overthrowing legitimate governments to dis-stablize the middle. There really wouldn't be much of a problem with terrorists in the first place.
This whole system is a joke. Everybody loses except the elite. It's almost too late now.
>>81126202
>The United States is intent on taking down the Syrian government. They refuse to use the petrodollar. Russia is for keeping them intact for this very reason.
Who is it that refuses to use the petrodollar?
>>81126202
russia is also actively trying to thwart the EU project because to it a divided europe would be easier to influence. the main way it is currently doing it is by exacerbating the refugee crisis by doing thing like bombing strictly residential areas, displacing the locals.
by doing that they hope far right anti eu sentemnts grow across europe(and they have) so that the eu breaks apart.
>>81126024
>open up a history book, and read about the events prior to ww2
Wow, this really made me think.
>>81126938
Lol nigga
>>81126938
Shut up you only want EU for free money.
>>81126347
>Like Nato did.
elaborate on which treaties nato or its members have broken?
russia broke the 4th genieva convention as it pertains to wars of aggression and annexation of foreign land
>Like anybody cares.
people do care especially in the Baltic states.
>>81126989
I am talking about how the west placated hitler you dumb fuck.
>>81127969
>elaborate on which treaties nato or its members have broken?
They get some pacts about "not meddling in post Warsaw pact members" but they did
>russia broke the 4th genieva convention as it pertains to wars of aggression and annexation of foreign land
Poor Vlad /like he actually gives a fuck/
>people do care especially in the Baltic states.
>imblying Balts are not permanently butthurt
Baши apгyмeнты инвaлиды.
>>81128210
Russia allied with Hitler to start WWII.
>>81125446
>russia
>grab anything
your shit army got stuck in ukraine
your shit army got raped in chechnya
your shit army got raped in afghanistan
poland and baltics will annex your shithole if you try to invade them
>>81126822
>Who is it that refuses to use the petrodollar?
Syria and Iran (Hussein's Iraq did too)
>>81128532
>Russia allied with Hitler to start WWII.
>Kikes allied with Hitler to start holocox
Actually makes you think....
>>81126347
shit I forgot to add that china neighbors care even more so than russia's neighbors. see the thing is it is not so much russia I fear but china.
if russia's actions go unpunished this may give china some ideas of its own, which would be the thing to fear.
>>81128671
>if russia's actions go unpunished this may give china some ideas of its own
>imblying China allready not into "conquer western pigs mode"
Lel
>>81128574
>>>81125446
>>russia
>>grab anything
>your shit army got stuck in ukraine
>your shit army got raped in chechnya
>your shit army got raped in afghanistan
>poland and baltics will annex your shithole if you try to invade them
So fucking fun sausage nigger
>>81128671
Hey bro, it must really suck to be in your place. BTW what happened to your propaganda channel that was sponsored by (((Kolomoyskiy)))?
>>81128868
>>81128671
>china
>serious threat
herro! this chinese navii!
u go!!!
meow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVH68ysyIv0
>>81128532
No they didn't. You need to pay attention to WWII history before Pearl Harbor. Germany, Italy, and Japan signed the anti-comintern pact to formalize their alliance against the communists.
Germany had a non-aggression pact with Russia. That's not the same as being allies. They wanted the communist government in Russia destroyed above all else. The treaty of Versailles led to complications though, and they needed to fight countries that wouldn't allow them to have an offensive military.
>>81126938
This guy is right
t. Russia troll examinator
>>81124374
If you don't fight russia it'll be anudda shoah
>>81129231
why so mad you bleached nigger?
don't you have some mlp porn to fap to? :^)
i hope your AIDS will kill you
enjoy your poverty you pig fucker
>>81129504
You know, you could wait for about 10 or so years and shit would get pretty much fucked.
>>81124030
I'd rather work with Russians than turkroaches desu.
>>81126202
>Russia actively works against US interests
I think you mean "Obama's interests."
The average American has no desire to keep toppling governments in the middle east, and Putin has said before that he has positive opinions of American conservatives like Trump. He is by no means altering his agenda to be detrimental to US citizens, it wouldn't make any sense to do so. If you honestly believe that the actions of a world leader centers around you and your friends, you must be pretty delusional.
>>81128490
>They get some pacts about "not meddling in post Warsaw pact members" but they did
1. nation states decide by themselves if they want to join nato
2. correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure this agreement was not official therefore it was non binding.
>Poor Vlad /like he actually gives a fuck/
vlad giving a fuck is irrelevant, what is relevant is that everyone else gives a fuck and because they do, they forgo improving relations with russia.
you russians are like a killer who just killed someone and now are surprised you have to go to jail.
it is fucking pathetic actually.
>>81124030
Different ideologies. Rooskies think being "westernized" as being cucked. They don't want that shit. They'll continue to fight it until the last drop of blood, sweat and tears.
>>81129655
>I dont know what russian and belarus proxies are.
>>81125825
>Russian minority in Latvia accidentally riots.
How do you accidentally riot? Are they niggers?
>>81129520
Russia and Germany both invaded Poland to kick off WWII.
>>81128574
Dude 1945 was 70 years ago, get over it. Your grandma hasn't, i know, but she's dead already.
>>81126516
>>81129934
>this agreement was not official
Yep, this was something like gentlemans pact
Russia wouldn't fell for this twice
>nation states decide by themselves if they want to join nato
Like Crimea decided to join Russia.
>vlad giving a fuck is irrelevant
I wouldn't completly disagree with this, but definetly wouldn't agree
>they forgo improving relations with russia.
Yea like everyone help Ukraine now and don't do Italian shit.
>you russians are like a killer
Da
>>81129783
When I say interests, I mean the desire to maintain economic foothold in the global economy. I'm not talking about public opinion.
It has nothing to do with public anti-war sentiment in the post-iraq war world. To quote you:
>If you honestly believe that the actions of a world leader centers around you and your friends, you must be pretty delusional.
>>81130251
Underrated. Millennials with their attention span can't remember what happened 5 minutes ago, before reverting back to #NotAllMuslims and voting for Hillary. Yet apparently they understand everything about WW2. LOL.
>>81129655
This faggot broken I need new.
>>81126024
Israel ethnically cleansed the Golan Heights and they get sanctioned less than Russia.
![41e[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eQ9md1i.jpg "41e[1].jpg")
ready for ww3 fags?
>>81126024
international treaties are a scam, hohol. same for 'international law'.
they're tools that the powerful (read: USA) use to bind the weak to their will.
>>81130238
Germany was using their military offensively long before they invaded Poland. Poland was just where the Allies drew the line in the sand.
Russia did not have an alliance with Poland. The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact was a non-aggression pact. Germany and Russia did divide Poland. That does not make them friends.
I highly recommend you read up on the anti-comintern pact. The axis existed to fight communism.
>>81131611
>Russia did not have an alliance with Poland
That was supposed to read:
Russia did not have an alliance with Germany
>>81130393
>Yep, this was something like gentlemans pact
>Russia wouldn't fell for this twice
but then your initial point on nato breaking international treaties was fallacious.
>Like Crimea decided to join Russia.
holding a mock referendum does not justify annexation no matter how you spin it.
>>81131783
>but then your initial point on nato breaking international treaties was fallacious.
Yeah, yeah. Fallacious, being not two-faced bastards is fallacious so deal with that.
>holding a mock referendum
Annexin territory from the mock country thru mock referendum?Pretty much sane if you ask me.
>>81128574
>poland and baltics will annex your shithole
>baltics will annex your shithole
lol yes with our combined forces of :
3 russian tanks stolen from russia late ww2
6 sandbags left here when they had to go away
20 transport cars(including small cars)
5 tractors from local farmers
12 bullets one for each high ranking officers but they dont fit any of our arms and are rusted cause some kids found em in some trench they got stone medals of honor for that.
>>81129934
>>81131783
did you seriously think that international law is worth anything? then you fell for the meme. sorry about that.
USA breaks international law left and right.
china breaks international law left and right.
israel breaks international law left and right.
russia breaks international law left and right.
international law is not binding. there is nobody who enforces it, so it is nothing but empty words on a few pieces of paper.
Ever since World War2, America has always had Penis envy against the Russians.
It's very primal, they see Russia has a large land mass, so they shit their pants and over react in everything, to the point Russia basically determines America's foreign policy.
Soviet goes to war with Afghanistan terrorists? America supports said terrorists and make them succeed.
Soviet goes to the space? America goes to the moon.
Soviet does X? America does the opposite of X, to prove the opposite of X is superior.
Soviet does Y? America does the opposite of Y.
>>81131123
but are not all laws like that?
though it is true that there is no international executive body that would uphold these laws, they are still binding as treaties between nations. and thus if someone were to break them they would call into question a nation's reputation or even worse: a nation's legitimacy(sovereignty).
iraq(for example) broke international treaties that would officially cause it to forgo its sovereignty multiple times. this fact legitimizes the war in Iraq in a international lens.
>>81129655
>"Only" 15 percent
Still disgusting. Anime and MLP must be destroyed.
>>81126024
>>81131783
>russia broke international treaties
So did NATO. Read something expect your ProtoUkr history once in a while. Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security between NATO and the Russian Federation which was signed in Paris, France on 27 May 1997 for example.
BTW. How's your new president (((Poroshenko)))? Still routing profits from his Russian factory through offshore? Kek
https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/ukraine-poroshenko-offshore/
Do you still seriously believe he's not working for Russia right fucking now? AHAHAHAHAHA
>>81128574
HHAHAHAHA
do you really think they INVADED ukraine? they simply arm the citizens living there and a small number of russian citizens and soldiers volunteer to fight there.
there is no large scale invasion of ukraine, don't believe your faggot media you stupid goy.
>>81132152
>being not two-faced bastards is fallacious so deal with that.
and yet it is thanks to russia's actions that nato has become so popular, funny that.
>Annexin territory from the mock country thru mock referendum?Pretty much sane if you ask me.
have you no legit answers that you must provide troll ones?
>>81132556
read >>81132858
>>81133772
>and yet it is thanks to russia's actions that nato has become so popular
Nigga wut?NATO is USSRs child.
>have you no legit answers
Yes i have none, like you have no legit president.
>>81133147
>mfw
Because the people in power are morons that hate Putin. Pic related, here is a quote by Putin in response to Hillary Clinton.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
>>81132858
Its all relative.
Important countres dont adhere to the rules.
See: the USA
>>81124030
Especially when the alternatives are 1) get Crimea'd 2) get NATO'd
>>81126938
>>81130913
yes
>>81133710
except the small numbers of volunteers are more than half of the opposing force.
and ofcoarse there is the fact that russian military units attacked behind the front lines in late august 2014. this lead to the first minsk agreement on september 5 2014.
>>81126938
What does he have to gain by this? Is he going to invade?
>>81134464
1 (one) Russian brigade-strength unit raped your entire ATO force.
You're a fucking joke.
If they wanted to invade you they'd have their tanks in Kiev in 3-4 days.
>>81132858
>>81133772
yes, you are correct. breaking international treaties does generally lead to a loss of diplomatic reputation. other countries will generally be less likely to trust you in the future after you break a treaty you signed.
but again - pretty much everybody does it. all the big players outright break treaties as they see fit, so none of them are in a position where they can even pretend to give a shit about others breaking a treaty.
>>81126938
Russia has more than enough reason to fear the EU.
Its a superstate in the making thats been getting closer and closer every decade.
Islamic terrorism is a problem for the whole world, Russia is no stranger to islamic terrorism, of course they want to destroy ISIS.
>>81125825
Slavs seem pretty cool when it comes to bizarre dancing, drinking vodka and squatting.
HOWEVER
Slavs = chavs?
>>81124030
Because if you kill them, they win, of course!
>>81134515
1. smaller states are easier to influence politically
2. putin fears that the eu would start negotiating for shit like oil prices as a single entity, which may cause russia to lose billions.
3. putin can go an negotiate trade deals that distinctly favor russia with independent eu states.
Strengthen those sanctions, goyim. And take those refugee children. We must prepare to fight Russia. They are the enemy, goyim, don't you see that?
>>81131755
>Russia did not have an alliance with Germany
So what? The fact that their belligerent conduct started WWII is not in dispute.
>>81134701
Imagine if they used air power as well.
>>81135513
>thread
>>81124030
Putin supports Assad. Poland is an ally.
>>81126024
>>81126154
>>81126273
>>81126347
>>81126435
>>81126938
>>81127969
>>81128210
>>81128490
>>81128670
>>81128671
>>81128868
>>81129708
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>>81130393
>>81131783
>>81132152
>>81132858
>>81133985
>>81133772
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>>81135388
>>81135513
HOLY SHIT WHO GIVES A FUCK
YOU FUCKING RETARDS THE WORLD IS FALLING APART AND YOU FAGS ARE BITCHING AT EACHOTHER
MAKE THE FUCK UP
Polacks hate the west but they would be the first to suck America's sausage if Russia does anything.
>>81124030
blowing up more toyota pickup trucks will only help the japanese economy
>>81129655
Sweden is busier with interracial cuckold.
Germany is too into scat.
I'm surprised at that BR search though, it's a ton.
>>81135784
You are not against free world, aren't you? Are you even civilized to act this way? Russia will attack any minute like they did with poor Ukraine, goyim
>>81135784
It's been falling apart desu
>>81124030
Western elites want to take over Russia economically. Russian elites want to prevent that.
Siberian independence when?
>>81136016
I'm not scared of you faggets
You have no means of even getting over here. Stop acting like a bitch. I don't hate Russia, I like Russia, I like Ukraine, I like Europe. You're being distracted with meaningless things and not focusing on the bigger picture
>>81136269
The point is...Everyone is getting distracted with us.
>>81134701
this was because the ukrainians were attacked from behind and surrounded, I doubt that engagement would be indicative of a conflict between russia and ukraine considering how the russian-georgian conflict played out.
>>81135195
There are
Slav chavs and are not to be confused with other slavs.
Also stay away from slav chavs.
>>81124256
Typical US retard who doesnt understand anything about the mindset of any european country.
>>81124364
That too, NATO would also become irrelevant. But mostly it's an economic push into Russia.
>>81125013
>implying the Western elites have no ambitions to gain economic/political dominance within Russia
Spotted the useful idiot.
>>81125446
You cannot grab Poland. Poland triggers NATO forces. You can grab Baltics because nobody is willing to die for them.
>>81126202
>Russia actively works against US interests.
That cuts both ways, asshat. It's your country that is invading the Russian sphere of influence, not vice versa. Keep serving Clinton and Soros.
>>81126938
A more muslim Europe isn't in the interest of anyone. Neither in Washington's nor in Moscow's. Also, it was the US that stoked up the uprisings to begin with.
>>81136358
That's the problem
But you're being distracted with them too. Hopefully things change when Obama fucks off
>>81136566
But slavs already wear baseball caps and tracksuits. How can they be identified? Also checked.
>>81124030
not yet
>>81124030
Because russians are animals.
You maybe dont know but they did not coop very well for loosing in the coldwar.
Now they try with all means reclaim lost terretory and influance.
They use nazis and rigthwing groups to undermine local govrments.
Steal land.
Murder in general and piss of every major global player.
Hence they on the short leash.
They pissed in to many soups.
>>81136269
STEALTH RARE
>>81135068
>of course they want to destroy ISIS.
this is debatable, personally I am more of the opinion that he wants to destroy the us backed rebels, leaving a more or less binary option between assad and isis. this would in a sense legitimize assad, which is putins goal.
>>81136410
If you genuinely think Ukraine would stand a chance against Russia youve got your head pretty far up your ass.
Putin took the cost effective route; destabilize, fund seperatism, build a buffer to the EU and NATO.
Moscow would have you under its heel in under a week, keeping it is a whole other story.
>>81124030
Dumb fucking idiots in our gov't. If Trump gets elected we'll ally against the Muslim menace and remove kebab for good.
A vote for Trump is a vote to secure our future as a free people.
>>81136971
> Nazis undermine the gubment
Weak b8, khokhol
>>81124256
>>81126202
You fucking dummies both of you are right, cant you fucking read? Everyone WANTS to work with Russia but as stated they're out for themselves. Russia and the United States end game are different.
>>81136410
>attacked from behind and surrounded 7 times
ftfy
>>81124030
Why won't Russia just quit shilling and shitting up all their neighbors?
>>81137132
Russia is not wanting to destroy isis. They want syria under there controll to build there pipline and so controll south eu with energy.
If you dont listen to us we close the gas and oil deliverys.
Like they did with ukraine.
Just pull bills out there asses.
Its much more complicated.
>>81137464
No its a fakt.
You just cant prove the oposite this.
>>81124030
I guess you missed the articles yesterday about the meeting between god-tier American hero John Kerry, and the upjumped slavic manlet peasant Vladimir Putin.
Even the articles in Russian state-run media were saying they came to an agreement on full coordination on ISIS and al-Nusra in Syria.
>>81136706
>it was the US that stoked up the uprisings to begin with.
for all I know this may be true, for the record I was for the US going into syria when obama was giving his whole "red-line" spiel. if the US had done that the refugee crisis would not have been a thing, but alas retarded left faggots did not understand the necessity and a "compromise" was reached.
fuck I hate the US left.
>>81137556
Yeah, wtf with Russia organizing coup in Ukraine and installing it's anti-western puppet regime there. Oh wait.
>>81137617
yeah this guy is telling the sense, it's all about being dependent on russia like we were after breakup of soviet union, but later in 2008 we got oil/gas from azerbaijan and than instead of playing the same card russia did in ukraine (making it longtime conflict zone) russia launched full scale invasion here, but on the other hand ukrainian government is too corrupt and making money from this conflict instead of mobilising troops and defeating rebels in few weeks max.
>>81137873
>Pro-EU leftist hates US leftists
>>81138040
Shut the fuck up.
>>81138472
omg an armenian, and i thought i was the only one posting from caucasus region o.O nice that i am not alone.
>>81138257
>Rebels please
More like russia sending troops without markings murdering inocents.
They stole of ukrainian grade a equipment that was on krim.
Thats what you get for trusting russians.
>>81138721
ayy, dzmao
I've seen quite a few georgians here.
>>81137296
your timeline is skewed, for it would take longer. russia couldn't take georgia in a week. though the reason it did not take the capital was because the US put turkish military bases on high alert, and they sent the USS ronald reagon with an escorting fleet into the black sea.
this scared putin and so he pulled back his forces.
the population of russia does not have the will necessary to fight a what in my opinion would be a protracted war.
also the ukrainian president ordered that plans for organized resistance to be constructed in case of an occupation. so russia would have to deal with that too.
>>81138867
How can you steal something from your own military base?
>>81138457
yes for they are retarded isolationists.
it is not that hard to understand if you read any of my previous comments.
>>81138867
i call rebels the ones that fight in donbass, there are volunteer and mercenary battalions in donbass obviously, but they are not good coordinated between themselves moscow doesn't care for that moscow wants good longtime conflict to show the world that ukraine is conflicted land and many refugees will go from ukraine if they get in eu whatsoever and ukraine will bring more harm in nato than profit
>>81138957
>sent the USS ronald reagon with an escorting fleet into the black sea.
How is that american carrier that was going to save crimea from putin in 2014? still on it's way? so scary, crimea will be ukranian soon no doubt
>>81124030
because westerners are good husbands who listen to their wives and their sexual fantasies, and their wives just want muslim cock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBumgq5yVrA
look at this song for example
>You only know you love her if you let her go
>>81124155
This. And it will get worse with Shillary.
>>81139238
I bet you're also butthurt about Brexit. Disgusting. And you supposedly just had a (((nationalist revolution))). Though with pic related it's clear why it's so mentally challenging for you to connect the dots together.
>>81124030
>>81124030
>hurr durr le defender of western civilization
>meanwhile fucking Kadyrov bridge
>>81139733
Old Kadyrov did help russian army to kill a lot of filthy chechens. Very nice. And then chechens killed him for that, very nice too. Muslims killing each other. He was of bit service to Russia.
Bridge is not a street, nobody lives on it anyway.
>>81139733
More like enemy of my enemy. Nobody says that Russia is the defender of western civilization, retard. What a waste of dubs.
>>81140299
russian politics at it's finest, first you used circassians than genocided them, after that used us against various clashes against north caucasians and turks and irans after that you occupied us, now you are using armenians but still selling arms to their enemies - azerbaijanians. and now chechens and ossetians against other north caucasians but time comes you will get bored of them too but will be too late for them just like it was for circassians.
>>81139511
>m putin in 2014? still on it's way? so scary, crimea will be ukranian soon no doubt
that was in '08 you fucking retard. and it fucking scared your president out of georgia, heh so yeah the ronald reagan is scary unless you are a fucking ignoramus.
>>81139704
naw I think the brexit vote could be a blessing in disguise for it would show that being out of the eu is worse than being in it.
do not read russian propaganda it was a more of a pro western revolution intead of a strictly nationalistic one.
nationalistic parties after the maidan lost a lot of support so yeah.
>>81140928
>your president out of georgia
because ossetia and abkhazia are not georigia. Good hohol, there's still hope for you.
>>81140581
>used us against various clashes against north caucasians and turks and irans
Yeah it's not like Turkey and Iran owned your ass for centuries until RU came. I'm sure it would be much nicer to be turkey's bitch like armenians, they enjoyed it so much, still can't forget the fun.
>>81141734
wow wow wow
>iran and turkey owned us
>defeated muslim coalition 3 times in a row in didgori shamqori and basian. just be reasonable m8 you left us alone in battle of aspindsa to be destroyed by iranians you lying spiders but we still won. you occupied georgia thx to *divide and conquer* not with military might and btw you won in abkhazia thx to breaking 2 treaties of ceasefire one in 1992 after your massive assault got rekt in gagra and in 1993 march after your another massive assault along with your radical muslim friends, chechens and abkhazian turks. you are masters at diplomacy and cunningness no mistake at that but breaking 2 ceasefires is sign of cowardice especially after that ceasefire we took out all our heavy equipment. now when government in ukraine changes so will be crushed your glorious rebels in donbass.
>>81141240
this comment is so retarded I doubt it even warrants a reply, I am only replying to you to post pic related.
>>81124030
Because Obama is a Muslim and Merkel is a kike. Globalists hate putin
>>81140928
Nobody is willing to die for any country east of Poland. Poland's eastern border is the actual border of NATO/EU because if Russia crossed it (or into Romania) and a wider invasion of Europe was in the cards, it would have to be countered militarily. But nobody risks war with Russia over Ukraine or the Baltics. No european parent will send their son against Russia over these nations. Only when an invasion of Europe looms, these young men can be mobilized.
>>81139243
As long ukraine is in war they cant join nato or eu if the ruls dont get chenged.
The same why nk is not in peace with sk.
>>81143027
there will be no direct war against russia in 21th century, and you know it it's just an argument not to take ukraine in nato there may be long time border conflicts between ukraine and russia just like it is in karabagh but hey, turkey doesn't interfere for azerbaijan and iran for armenia it's clash between 2 countries so will it be in donbass if ukraine is in nato.
>i can understand your point who the hell wants war with russia for ukraine.
but here is what russian would think
>who the hell wants war with whole europe over a donbass, let it just be there minor militia clashes just like it is today
be realist man.
>US will never be on friendly terms with Russia like they were in the 19th Century
Jesus Christ, why must we keep perpetuating this stupid rivalry?
I want Russian guns sold here, and the Russians want to sell their guns here. There's profits to be made here!
>>81143921
because in 19th century us wasn't worldrpower and they could gain political profit with such an alliance.
however today both of these countries have ambition to be worldpower oh and trust me everything you guys do, you do it to inflict casualties to each other.
what does russia want in syria ? yes russia counters us backed rebels but it also destroys many infrastructures that way more "refugees" go in europe and misbehave, which seeds hatred towards us politics and sympathy towards putin.
fun fact
>biggest refugee thread went in europe in 2015 summer just when russian airforce arrived in syria.
>>81142607
Persians destroyed Georgia in 1795, burned Tbilisi. if we did not annex you you'd be invaded like that every decade, with russian army marching to the rescue again and again. And now centuries later you say you'd be better independent. Look at your population growth after annexation when no muslim raping.
>1992 1993
I doubt we even supported Abkhazia back then, future chechen separatists fought for them.
>>81144406
we all can see what these """refugee""" did in France today
>>81124030
Because the kikes that dominate the U.S. want revenge for the porgroms.
>>81144406
>fun fact
>biggest refugee thread went in europe in 2015 summer just when russian airforce arrived in syria.
even funier fact - Russia went there in autumn
>>81144406
>30 September
>summer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war#Russian_intervention_and_government_offensive_.2830_September_2015.E2.80.93February_2016.29
>>81144406
you forgot to add that putin wants the far right to grow across europe. which is why he is fueling the refugee crisis.
>>81144465
in 1795 when we already were your puppet regime and we defeated persians since they became muslim and turks since 10th century or so.
>1992-1993
non radical chechens alongside their president dudaev supported georgia while others followed basayev and fought for their muslim brothers. it's kinda ironic how europe sees you defenders of christianity while in truth you would allign muslims if it would profit you just like in last century it did. also don't forget armenians every caucasianethnicity was fighting against us in abkhazia because of your cunning politics.
>russians in abkhazia
i am pretty sure georgia and abkhazia didn't have any aviation so it was obviously russia
and also your marine division was fighting there which outnumbers ethnic abkhazian fighters 3 to 1 don't forget russian transport fleet used by your side to do raids and amphibious assaults in the back. stop only listening to your country's propaganda just like i did to mine's
Russia is pretty based, senpai.
>>81143921
>guns here. There's profits to be made here!
cheap Russian AKs
real Dragunovs
pallets of cheap 7.62 and 5.45
no more parts kits imported and slapped together by monkeys
>>81145207
i misspeled i should've wrote after summer but you are right indeed they needed some time before they reached mainland europe.
but let's see how many will arrive in europe after summer.
>>81144599
missbehave includes: raping, robbing, murdering, detonating yourself, KILLING CIVILIANS WITH A TRUCK and so on.
i am pretty sure i have covered today's news.
>>81124030
>we must use force
Yeah, just like dearth vader! But don't you dare call Russia evil!!!!
Putin is a fucking muppet.
>>81136600
Russia got fucked over from the us.
Ww2, we waited to help until we could secure our spot As a super power. Millions of Russians died as they asked us for help while we waited. I'm pay woth this since I'm american.
Putting that behind us as the past, the us, uk, and russia need to form their bonds. Create a new union. Shit on china, and take over the moon.
>>81146842
How is using force evil, especially when you have to defend yourself?
>>81125825
is this a meme
>>81145667
>cheap Russian AKs
>no more parts kits imported and slapped together by monkeys
A man can fucking dream.
>>81144465
>this whole fucking post
wew
>>81130211
Yes
see
>2007 Tallinn Riots
>2009 Riga Riots
>>81124030
Clinton and Putin are maniacs.
Why do you mention putin's populistic quotes when you talk about cooperation between russian and the west. state is not the country. also
>working with putin
>working with criminals
kek
because western leaders are conspiring with the terrorists
Can putin just stop fucking about and fuck me already?
>>81124030
different political interests. Learn some geopolitics you fucking normie
>>81124030
putin feels it's his manifest destiny to have some sort of biblical war with the US. he just did a great purge of his navy when they refused to engage US ships (i.e. suicide their fleets) that had been participating in pre-planned, open and organized NATO exercises in the baltic. he's in poor health and mentally unstable.
>>81145667
ill buy this in 5 years)))(or less if i would be able to bribe some people)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4cTr8vkUks
>>81148252
>2009 Riga Riots
I don't know about Tallinn riots, but it wasn't "Russian minority riot" in Riga. Just people butthurt about crisis, bail-out of Parex bank and other recession shit.
Some of them were legit protesters, who wanted to dismiss the Parliament (those who threw bricks in Saeima windows), some were in it to loot (those who broke into the LB store).
But it wasn't about nationality.
>>81126024
Definitely explains our relationship with Isreal.
>>81124030
Russia and the West have been pouring their resources into fighting a secret war of manipulation and propaganda. This is a massive effort. From watching the news, it looks like it's already claimed some casualties.
>>81149202
>putin feels it's his manifest destiny to have some sort of biblical war with the US
FYI, nobody outside US actually cares about all that Biblical stuff.
Pootin makes statemants almost after every tragedy/boom in europe/usa and never after this happens in russia
