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What does /pol/ think about the anthropic principle? Redpill me here.
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What does /pol/ think about the anthropic principle?

Redpill me here.
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You wouldn't be alive to observe it if all conditions weren't met you fucking retard
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>>80956268
Creationism though.
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It's the best case for creationism. People can't all say it was all LOL MERELY COINCIDENCES.
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Life is adapted to the conditions the Universe has presented it with - not the other way around.
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>Very unlikely things are impossible in a universe that is, for all practical measurements, infinite
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>>80956190
But it doesn't, there is (microbial) life on Mars

This is just another symptom of scientific ignorance manifesting in a group of people making their own rules to suit their beliefs
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>>80956190

You have to exist to question your existence.

The understanding of the universe that humans have developed depends on the fact that there are humans to understand the universe. Newton doesn't invent calculus if earth is made of cheese or too close the sun to be habitable.

If we supposed that the earth is was created or formed in a way that there was no chance of life we wouldn't be here to wonder at it. Therefore the dice rolls that had to happen to create a habitable planet are built into our starting point.

If those dice rolls had been different we would not have crawled out of the jelly, built fire, and started wondering where the fuck it all came from.

There is no point in asking about different starting positions if those starting positions make it impossible to ask the question. The pic has the idea perfectly backwards.
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>>80959874
>Scientific ignorance
Care to expand?
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>>80959424
this
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>>80959874
>there is (microbial) life on Mars
No there isn't.
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There's billions of stars which lead to billions of planets in an undefined amount of parallel universes

If it's true, there'll be millions of planets that support intelligent life and even more that have microbial life
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Currently in the process of reading Pic Related.

The conclusion it comes to is that microbial life might actually be fairly common across the Universe, but the steps towards achieving multicellularity may be much more arduous.
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>>80959874
>there is (microbial) life on Mars
yeah, and you were kangz
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>>80959846
Tips fedora
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>>80956190
>A planet that's inhabited is inhabitable. What are the odds?
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>Trillions of chances of life on trillions of planets
>One gets the jackpot
>Hurrdurr must be devine
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>>80960204
Gave me a good chuckle, I'll give you that.
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>>80964009
Maybe, but defiantly no less retarded than that crock of shit drakes equation
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>>80956190

Life probably exists elsewhere, if only because of the sheer number of other stars with planets. However, any statement made by anyone as to how common or rare life will be out there in the cosmos is supremely arrogant. Take some of the most common statements:

>"The very moment that life could develop on Earth, it DID!"

The argument here is that the notion that life must be very common, because it came into being as early as was possible on Earth. However, we don't well understand the EXACT conditions under which life came into existence on this planet. We have a decent idea, sure, but we don't know all of the variables. All we have are snippets of truth with a LOT of speculation.

Since we don't know all of the facts about the early environment of the Earth, we cannot even begin to speculate as to how common life will be out there.

>"There have to be MILLIONS of civilizations out there in the cosmos!"

What no one tells you is that intelligence and sapience are merely just another adaptation on the tree of evolution. These are NOT inevitable developments wherever life will arise. Sentience is NOT the pinnacle of evolution and it does NOT have to develop wherever life arises. It is just a chance development based on certain mutations that gave a specific advantage to a single branch of the evolutionary tree.

.... And even then it wasn't too effective an advantage.... all the other branches of the human tree DIED OUT, as we almost DIED OUT at one point too.

Let us not also forget several other things:

1. Life does not have to become multicellular. There is no universal law requiring it to. Earth may be the one planet withing 50 million light years that just happened to develop it. Then again, it might not. We do NOT know, so it is retarded to speculate.

2. Mass extinctions basically almost ended everything. There is absolutely no reason that these mass extinction events could not have killed everything
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