did it really need to happen?
>>80913445
No. Asymmetric Warfare in the modern age is unwinnable, and from the way things are looking now I'm afraid Communism is tough to fight against as well.
We already know about the Gulf of Tonkin, we know how easy it is to get swindled into shitty wars and we know we're going to keep doing it.
>>80913445
Stop perceived communist expansion by the Chinese. I say 'perceived' because it turned out the Vietcong actually hated the Chinese and kept their geopolitical independence, but American strategists were a bunch of memesters that thought commies would have to befriend commies. Vietnamese hate Chinese. The war was for nothing.
Blame Nixon and Kissinger for how bad it got.
SOME MEN WERE BORN, MADE TO WAVE THE FLAG
>>80913775
It is winnable but it's devastating for both sides. Read up on the Eastern Front during WW2 which had crazy assymetrical and partisan warfare mixed in with the Fronts. The USSR lost something like 400k men just trying to take Berlin alone. It requires some real fucking dedication
>>80913864
*folks
OOO THEY'RE RED WHITE AND BLUE!!!
>>80913964
sorry I think I meant 50k not 400k
>>80913445
did it really happen?
What is funny is was the sheer amount of denial and lies that USA officials did trying to cover up faults of the M16 in its first years of action.
>>80914405
yes when my ass was full of inflatable black dick that was full of bleach, i laid an egg out of my boipucci and greece grew a pussy and said "vietnam is raping me" and then america was like "hippies beatles lmao" and they bombed sri lanka by accident and then an american plane fell into greeces pussy and turkey thought it was a kebab and invaded to get what they thought was kebab but they were mistaken and called roaches meanwhile america was having it's ass blown by a leafblower invented by magical filipinos that eat turkeys and grease by vietnamese people and then america lost the war but they also lost the beatles and shit
and then disco grew as a tumour or something in my private farm as black congolese children were planting rocks into the ground to get fresh watermelóns
and then in 1975 the 1990s happened and america was like "disco funky lmao" and called the whole war off
>tfw you will never go on hunter-killer operations with ROKMC
>tfw you will never torch entire villages for harboring VC scum
>tfw you will never rape VC qts
My granddad fought In it, not to mention all the footage of the shit, of course it fucking happened dipshit
>>80913776
This. The burgers were too ignorant and thought that Vietnam would be another Korea.
>>80914837
"sukki sukki fo faihv dowwa"
"me wuv u fo good tiem fo faihv dowwa"
>>80913864
Ok hiro
>>80914508
>M16
MI6 or CIA? The Brits weren't in the Vietnam War.
>>80915232
He's talking about the gun.
>>80913445
The entire Cold War didn't need to happen.
The Soviet Union was fucked from the start. Too much resources went into military spending to keep up with the US whilst their people starved in bread lines.
If the US had just let communism fuck itself over on its own whilst allocating resources into its more successful projects like freedom radio etc and just focused on making itself a prosperous and free nation and promoting those virtues abroad (without military intervention) then the Cold War would have been nothing.
>>80913445
It was human experimentation on a huge scale. Weather tech, agent orange, advanced deployment methods, co-intel operations. It wasn't a real war. It was a test for what they have been doing everywhere we go since. Soon they will bring it all home.
>>80913445
There's never a bad time for killing communists. If it wasn't for left-wing jews pushing ideological subversion we would have won.
>>80915076
... which is hilarious considering how wildly successful our adventure in Korea was ...
Hey Phobro, have you heard about US POWs being kept back as collateral for payment of $3.25B in reparations? Sydney Shanberg broke the story based on negotiation documents and nobody wanted to touch it. It was the basis of that slimeball McCain revisiting your paddy and insisting that there were no POWs.
Vietnam war was pretty gud adventure with burger. Burger should send us in more fun adventures :DDDD
www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-legacy-of-sydney-schanberg/
Here.
>>80913445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VvuOUYe7mI
WAIT
*IS NOT A FORTUNATE SON*
YOU MEAN?
*FLYS AWAY IN A HUEY*
YOU MEAN TO TELL ME?
*ROASTS SOME GOOKS*
WHAT YOU SAYIN IS
*GETS SOME*
LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT
*CUTS SLOPES IN HALF WITH M-16*
NOW HOLD ON I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THIS
*PROCLAIMS CHARLIE DON'T SURF*
WHAT YOU MEAN TO SAY IS
*SMELLS NAPALM IN THE MORNING*
THE REASON WE FIGHTING HERE
*SHOTGUNS SOME WEED*
THE REASON WE FLEW ALL THE WAY OVER HERE
*IS THE FIRST KID ON HIS BLOCK TO GET A CONFIRMED KILL*
WHY WE IS HERE IS
*PLAYS COWBOYS AND INDIANS*
WHY WE CAME ALL THIS WAY
*SMUGGLES HEROIN HOME IN BODY BAGS*
OUR MISSION IS TO
*FIGHTS FOR "POONTANG"*
KILL SOME COMMIES?
*PEAKS ON ACID IN FIREFIGHT*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzvb1iLtfrc
>>80915398
Without the western schemes ranging from sanctions, proxy wars, isolation, to oil price manipulation, the Soviet would not have collapsed. Unfortunately, they had to make a pact with Islamist from the ME and the Chinese to do it. Look at them now, both Islamist and Chinese are coming back to bite
>>80915546
I have not heard about this story.
better quality
>20 yr old draftee squadleader
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOukOqdudHk
>>80913864
Ohhh Kojima, you rascal! You're a fun one aren't you?
>>80913445
They faked it the way they faked the moon landing. None of those people listed on the "wall" ever actually existed.
>>80913445
testing ground for new weapons technology and strategies.
>>80916164
Well would communism not eventually have collapsed from within?
Or maybe they just would have gone the way China has done. One party state, capitalist economy.
Thing that is annoying about the Middle East is America supported the Islamists over the socialists and fucked them over. In the 70's, the Middle East was prosperous and free. And we fucked it for oil.
>>80915575
South Koreans were mercenaries. Park Chung Hee sent troops to Vietnam for all those sweet financial "assistance" from the US. They were the most brutal and blood thirsty among all the foreign troops in Vietnam. The economic benefits for South Korea were nothing short of amazing. In short, South Korea grew from the blood they soaked in Vietnam.
>>80915112
>>80916311
Nice counter points uhhh John and Bob.
Ho Chi Minh wanted support of America. Even quoted Jefferson. From there look at the Truman Doctrine and Domino theory. We started sniffing around Vietnam under Eisenhower.
>>80916929
>Tyrone and Jamal
ftfy
>>80916164
This is nonsense. Not only was the Soviet Union unable to function at a basic level, but at the time they were often pretty honest about it. They were never food-independent and in their first years were totally dependent on direct assistance from Wall Street and Woodrow Wilson. The Polar Bears were a ruse, not an attempt to strangle the Revolution, which we could have accomplished had we simply not fed them.
>>80916328
Then why did my brother never come back?
>he thinks the vietnam war ACTUALLY happened
oh boy do i have a redpill for you.....
>>80916643
>Well would communism not eventually have collapsed from within?
Communism's advantages of en-massing people to big projects while enacting quick political and economic reforms without prolonged political fights within a stagnated parliament is the key to China's growth.
If the west had allowed free trading with the Soviet like they did with China (which was done specifically so that China betrayed the Soviet), the Soviet would have prospered.
>>80913776
It was more that the war had little to do with communism nationally. Aside from Bolshevism, which was calculated and done by certain (((people))) every successful "communist" revolution was a thoroughly nationalist effort. They wanted to preserve their people, their culture, and not be economically raped by powerful western forces. Communism served as a viable alternative to (((western))) control of their monetary system and their utter subjugation to far more powerful countries.
Vietnam is no exception. Its just far more notable.
>>80916971
sad we didn't help them right from the beginning
Vietnam Thread?
Vietnam thread
>>80916971
too bad he was a commie
>>80913445
Yes, but it was completley pointless:
>Communist revolutionaries in 'nam
>BTFO the french
>USA takes over because communism
>Stalemate reached
>Truce
>USA sets up ""democracy"" in the south
>Trains up their own forces
>USA starts pulling out
>Commies break truce and attack south
>Government troops 100% depend on USA support and equipment
>USA stops helping South
>Saigon falls
The end
Basically see Iraq. Miraculously, Baghdad hasn't fallen (yet).
>>80917870
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb3iPP-tHdA
>>80917332
Many nations helped the Untied States' war of independence and when the States were still weak too.
>>80916328
>>80917980
They were just men caught in the shitstorm of their time.
Fairs seas and Following winds
>>80918169
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WW5xuFmvBF8
>captcha: select the palm trees
I've got a lot of sympathy for Vietnam vets, especially the ones that ended up depressed and homeless after the war. It's just not right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAE6Il6OTcs
>>80917332
This. Ditto with the CPC vs KMT in China -- the ROC had Mao's gang beat and were swooping in for the final kill, whereupon State demanded a unilateral ceasefire from the ROC and sent George Marshall over to to negotiate a power-sharing agreement, which neither side was interested in.
During that enforced ceasefire, the Communists recovered, reorganized and were massively rearmed by their friends in Russia AND the United States, and once they were strong enough they broke the truce, massacred the KMT and took all of mainland China.
The US wasn't even going to intervene in the imminent PRC invasion of Taiwan until Korea happened and it became politically impossible to give all of China to the Communists.
The actual history of the West "vs" Communism is shady as fuck.
>>80917907
>too bad he was a commie
America lost Ho Chi Minh to the Soviet Union because it refused to help Vietnam gain independence from France. Ho Chi Minh admired the American political ideals and asked for our help first.
>>80918437
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o34ar2yVIgM
>>80913445
here is a better question.
Did it really happen?
>>80913445
all wars are necessary
>>80918379
What's going on in that pic?
>>80913445
IT AIN'T MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
IT AIN'T MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I AIN'T NO SENATOR'S SON NO NO
>New Zealand soldiers hold captured NVA flag.
The Vietnamese created guerilla warfare. They defeated the Chinese, Japanese, French, and Americans. Dien Bien Phu was brutal and effective. Our army was infested by ticket punchers causing a lot of needless deaths and misguided land grabs.
One of my favorite books on this subject is About Face: Odyssey of an American Warrior. Ties together Korea / Vietnam nicely.
>>80918612
THE KIWI
>>80917907
>USA stops helping South
They were still helping, not just as much as before.
>Basically see Iraq
Iraq can survive without oil and Iranian's help though.
>>80918576
Base took contact from the mountain, they brought up an tank with an AA gun and two M60s to strafe the motherfucker
What you see is the tracers from the guns
>>80918807
That's fucking awesome
>>80918626
>Vietnamese created guerilla warfare
Murican Education, did you know during the Papua New Guinea campaign against Japan, Aussie commandos stuck behind would be conducting guerilla operations.
Soviet partisans conducted guerilla warfare against the Germans
Yugoslav guerillas did the same.
>>80918887
Its part of a set a combat photographer took using long exposure shots
>>80918984
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-IX26rAugo
>>80918470
This is correct. America was so keen on helping France keeping its colonies to rebuild as a good will action so that France would remain in their orbit in the Untied Nation, which symbolized the post-war advantage of the west.
SOME FOLKS INHERIT STAR SPANGLED EYES
OOH, THEY SEND YOU DOWN TO WAR, LORD
>US Navy patrol in Mekong delta
>>80919169
>Is that you John Wayne?
>Is this me?
>>80913445
From an organizational and structural standpoint absolutely.
vietnam seriously challenged our strategies at the time. Not even the VC, i mean the NVA. The doctrinal changes (for example, getting gud at fighter jets) directly led to the structure that curb stomped the Iraqis in Desert Storm and led to massive improvements in the US military.
was it a war we had to fight? No, not really.
Was it a war that showed us what our weaknesses were? Absolutely.
dont focus on the guerilla war aspect. The VC were basically out of the game after the Tet Offensive. Most people under 50 forget that the NVA was the real threat, and they were way ahead of even ISIS or any durkhas.
and we STILL got them to the negotiating table at Paris. Vietnam had a numerous conventional war moments with a constant backdrop of "lel private wilkens stepped on a mine".
>>80917994
That's irrelevant ideologically, and pretty neatly explained by hating Britain. That is, France helped us, as part of competition with Britain. In order for that example to do what you want it to do, these nations would have to be ostensibly fighting to exterminate the USA while secretly guaranteeing its survival.
>>80918899
>Australian education
Read how Vietnam fought against the Mongols and the Chinese before that. Guerilla warfare has been perfected here since centuries.
>>80913445
No. If we'd allowed them to be independent after the defeat of Japan, instead of selling them out to the French, we would have been best pals with Vietnam
>>80918899
This predates prison island and burgers. Nice b8
>Marine having some chow.
>>80919172
It's only been recently that a common foe has made relations become closer.
>>80919349
The US didn't hate Bolsheviks at first because they were seen as the elements that would weaken the Russian Empire.
>>80918356
oh poor vets who agreed to be pawns of the elite *tiny violin*
You dropped more bombs on vietnam than were dropped in the entirety of WW2, you deserve the misery you have caused around the world
>>80917447
There is an arguable example of this: Tito's Yugoslavia. The comfiest part of Eastern Europe (it was even a tourist destination -- for Westerners!), it was still categorically inferior to the West.
I would make a pun about Vietnam but It ain't me
>>80918626
U wot m8., the IRA was doing guerilla war way before the VC. And before that was the Boers. And before that were plenty of native americans. Small guys have always tried to work out how to kill the big guys.
>>80919462
>chow is continuous
>>80919186
AND WHEN YOU ASK EM' HOOOOOWW MUCH WE SHOULD GIVE
OOOOOOH THEIR ONLY ANSWER'S MORE MORE MOOOORE
>>80919365
The keyword is perfected, but guerilla warfare goes back to Tsun Tzu
>Australian soldier in battle of Coral.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U7T_d5HzJWI
>>80919507
The US had many powerful elements that openly supported Communism and continued to do so through the supposed height of the Cold War. As far as this being realpolitik to attack our long ally (!) the Russian Empire, which had stopped existing at that point, no. Look up Jacob Schiff and FDR's cabinet. Look at FDR's personal support for Spanish commies.
>>80919509
Cold war politics mate, the soviet union were no better. This isn't Disneyland, this is global reality.
Back to Melbourne you go
>>80916134
fuck i keked hard
>>80919670
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Urtiyp-G6jY
>>80919601
Mail call!
>>80919601
Tanned Vietnam-hardened Boipussy
>>80913775
>Asymmetric Warfare in the modern age is unwinnable
only if you are a cuck nation that allows its military to get fucked over by silly constraints.
if you are willing to do whatever it takes, then a 'war' like vietnam will be over within a month.
>>80919847
>fortunate pupper
>>80920008
What breed is that?
It looks like a ridgeback in the face
>>80920008
Merry Christmas Pupper
>Band plays Christmas mus at Tan Nhut airbase during Christmas 1970
>>80913445
>need to happen
That's an almost impossible question to answer.
But at the time, the Chinese Communist aggression in South East Asia was seen as a very real threat to the sovereignty of many nations in the area, and so it was deemed that an American led 'war by proxy' in Vietnam would be a sensible way to slow the spread of communism down. To this degree, it may be said that the war in Vietnam was successful in that it dealt severe economic damage to the Chinese and definitely slowed the spread of communism into the rest of Asia. However given the short term goals, it could be seen as a Communist Victory. But afterwards, it seems that the longer term aims for America and Australian interests were also achieved; Communist China was forced to abandon expansionist plans for quite some time after.
So all in all, if not for the American Meat Grinder tactics in Vietnam it coyld be said that Asia as a whole could have become a ChiCom fortress of billions more than it is now...
>>80920257
>Specialist using a "people sniffer"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_sniffer
>>80915575
>Burger should send us in more fun adventures
Come to Russia, chink.
>>80920391
Switching gears, breaking out the feels
>>80919732
>The US had many powerful elements that openly supported Communism
Which is correct. The workers in the US had very positive view of Communism. After all, many aspects of the ideology are still a big part of the political left
>our long ally (!) the Russian Empire
Russian Empire is only an ally of convenience during WWI. The Anglo sphere has always seen Russia as a rival to be weaken and exploit. When the US took over as the leader, it has continued this trend.
>My feet hurt
>Why are we doing a yellow boys job?
>implying this isn't heavy
>wonder if CO noticed me
>>80918576
reverse image search is your friend
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/06/26/long-exposure-photographs-show-the-intensity-of-the-vietnam-war
>>80919509
>what is Conscription
Back to Melbourne Library mate
>>80920539
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MxYFZIDoCdI
>favorite Vietnam Era song
>Always felt a sense of loss when I listened to this song
>I never knew that sense of loss was because of the innocence we lost to those endless, steamy jungles
>>80913445
Vietnam was an ally.
Back then, if an ally got invaded, you went in and helped them.
Pretty simple.
>>80916753
No, you were wrong about that "economic benefits for South Korea" when they went to war.
It was the science investment (education) that korea became successful
>see inflation rates of korea
>see currency exchange rates
>but if crying and holding on
>and flying on the ground is wrong
>then I'm sorry to let you down
>but you're from my side of town
>and I mis you
>>80920805
Good choice
>Pic is some Texans who volunteered for the war
>>80921082
These are dope if no one has told you yet
>>80919855
kill yourself
>>80921219
>Texans
>Always there when the call comes
No, it showed the world the ineptness and weakness of the US. Asian tree monkeys
>>80919509
>agreed to be pawns of the elite
They were drafted, you dumb fuck.
It would have sucked, but if everyone was drafted and you had no choice, that's kind of an incredible sense of unity among American men that would transcend the bullshit we're dealing with now you know?
>>80914508
The m16 wasn't at fault. They switched to shitty ammo last minute and experienced serious carbon fouling
>>80921270
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vKHBb2jpRhk
>>80920490
He's a gook, not a chink.
>>80913445
who the fuck cares about vietnam, ask after the election LEO
stop trying to distract people
>you will never be this salty
>Australian tunnel rat
>>80921402
>texans
>always known for racism, treason, sabotage, murder, genocide, robbery, theft, extortion, rape, blackmail, fraud and for puffing themselves up because they never think their shit stinks
>>80921041
I said it was a part, not all the reasons South Korea became successful.
Another thing is that Park oppressed the people in his dictatorship-like state, put down resistance with extreme prejudice, and treated them like working machine (no less brutal than the Chinese are doing now with their people).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPoDQ3-Hz7Q
>>80913445
My dad was in vietnam
Woke up last night screaming "Fuck" over and over again, last week he woke up screaming fuck and ran to the bathroom screaming "Get it together bobby!" and screaming "Fuck". I love my dad /Pol/, I dont want to see him like this. Holy shit Im fucking crying just thinking about it. The VA hasnt done shit and He needs help. Anyone have advice? I need it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fBhaiJ5YNiM
Need to? No. Long term, you could argue that communism would have spread through Asia and hampered American trade eventually.
The problem with Vietnam was the way America fought. It could and should have been a fairly quick victory, but leadership lacked the resolve to uproot and destroy the enemy. Their lack of will prolonged the conflict, and caused much more death needlessly on both sides.
>>80921861
That was a bit edgy, don'tcha think?
>>80921861
found the butthurt yankee.
>>80921861
>a booboo, muh wacists
>Marine runs for some cover
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XR8LFNUr3vw
>>80915848
>few hundred
every time
>>80922116
Jim "Shredding Vagina in Indochina" Webb
>Marine recon team in Vietnam
>>80921952
>It could and should have been a fairly quick victory
>Their lack of will prolonged the conflict
If they attack Hanoi, the Chinese would have jumped in just like Korea.
>>80920621
Yeah, here you are just ignorant. Jacob Schiff wasn't a "worker" and the Russian Empire was not an "ally of convenience," they supported our Revolution and kept other European partners out during our Civil War. Their liberation of serfs was part of the same discussion and happened near the same time as our ending of slavery. All of which is moot because as I reminded you they did not exist at the time and we actively supported their murderers.
>>80916971
He quoted Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence as justification for kicking out the French. He didn't give a single fuck about US support, which he wouldn't have gotten.
That's like the retards that say Hitler wanted to ally with the US before Japan attacked.
>>80919258
>US Navy
Go back to the ship, let the marines do their job
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AJw_XqvsSIs
>R.I.P eardrums
>How come he gets the M60?
>It's hot
>I wonder if Suzie is thinking about me
>Fucking protestors were right, it's fucking hot
>I hope we don't get ambushed
>Implying I have enough ammo
>>80922295
This is the real key. LBJ got into a position where there was no good option, and refused to admit he had made a mistake. The staff and experts presiding over Vietnam were the same ones who got burned badly by Korea.
>>80921905
This his best friend from vietnam, Francis andrysiak, Killed in Quang Ti province on january 10th 1968
>>80922431
Those are SEALs m8 :^)
yes, he really said this.
>>80915522
Ok Suharto
>>80921905
>The VA hasnt done shit and He needs help. Anyone have advice? I need it.
if you can afford it, suggest counseling, it's not just a meme
else vote Trump and hope for the best
>I'm helping the soldiers
>Fucking Janette's manface
>These heels are hard to walk in
>I wonder if Johnny knows I signed up to be a nurse
>>80922721
Thanks man, He hasnt been like this before, It just started 2 months ago. I dont know why Hes like this, Why now?
>Charlie hasn't attacked all day
>I'm tired of fucking sitting here
>haha, the XO tripped over his feet
>Fuck the hippies back home
>>80922169
okay, maybe 7 hundreds
>>80922772
I like these /k/ memes, think you can make one for this pic?
>>80915232
>>80915395
LOL
Getting put in place by an ausfag
>>80919524
I guess in terms of potential for shit hitting the fan it was a lot worse, but there are definitely millions of people who long for the old days there.
>>80923019
>Who's this Camera guy think he is?
>I wonder if he knows I'm about to mug him for some boots
>Check this fucking pistol grip
>Does he know it's muddy right here?
>When will the rain stop so I can relight my cig?
>>80922721
Also, we can afford it, Ive taken time off from my internship to go on walks with him and he seems to calm down and be happy, but he just hates to talk about it
>Yup, He's dead.
>South Vietnamese troops inspecting dead body to make sure the dead body is dead by deadly force
>>80919732
Are you blind or just ignorant? The US spent billions on crushing even mildly leftist-leaning revolutionary movements abroad.
based fucking marky mark
>>80923180
This one is begging to be meme'd as well
>mark "vietnam fucking shits" wahlberg
this shit never gets old
>>80921905
6 years since my last tour in Iraq.
Still wake up in a sweat, fists clenched, ready to fight randomly at night at least twice a week.
War is bad for your soul.
I hope your father is okay, honestly, it's depressing to think someday my kids might be in your same situation.
>>80913445
utter waste of capital and human life. Criminal meddling in the affairs of other countries.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=68gJbUyeWkg
>>80923611
Thank man, I appreciate it. For some Reason, Maybe its a patriotic thing, It means alot more coming from an actual vet. Thanks again man.
>>80923765
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f5T1ZeEdRAk
Whats your guys favorite 'Nam war movie and why?
>>80922925
He hardly looks 18. It's sad to think what these boys had to leave behind to fight the war.
>>80923800
US iraq/Afghan vets have a lot of respect for men like your father.
Appreciate the kind words brother.
>>80920539
>you're on duty to spray the blood off the chopper
>>80923625
Good post.
>>80923964
Platoon. Like how it focuses on the men's sanity instead of fancy gunfights and explosions
>>80924054
Fuck, man, why is it so hard? Why does he dwell on something that happened 40 something years ago? I just cant get it out of my head
>>80923501
>Charlie isn't getting away
>We may be out in the open but they're running scared
>Fucking CO didn't give me time to get my helmet
>I wonder if anyone else is looking at me funny
>Fuck it, look serious.
>>80913445
Yes. Ghost from Ghost: Capitalist radio was there.
>>80913445
Yer not some filthy hippie are ya? Communism is the devil and has to be stopped, even if that means young men dying in a jungle somewhere on the other side of the planet
OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE RED WHITE AND BLUUUEEEEEEEE
>>80923389
This is a misunderstood and misrepresented idea that has nothing to do with what I said and largely took place a generation later, as a result of a huge shift. Consider that billions are not that much money for us and that the two agendas coexist. The real goal of supporting bolsheviki is not to bring about the impossible nonsense state of real communism, it's to run real world population control experiments on human guinea pigs. "Leftist movements" are usually criminals or labor organizers or both.
>>80916328
I dunno, I just got this strange feeling it actually happened.
>>80919911
This is the truth. The Gulf War is the best example of this. We bombed them relentlessly for months and by the time we sent in the ground troops they were already fucked. We didn't nation build either. If we let the generals fight the wars instead of politicians we can fuck shit up with barely any effort.
>>80916328
Then why did My Uncles cousin never come back
>>80924232
I don't know. It affects everyone differently.
He should see someone though. One of the hardest things is trying to put those kinds of thoughts or feelings into words.
Have you ever tried talking to him? Would he open up to you?
Most times, for me anywY, it helps to just get it out there to my wife...she can't really understand where I'm coming from or relate with my experiences, but she does help me put words to what often feels indescribable.
Your father experienced trauma, he may have never confronted it until now.
>>80924120
I heard a story from one of my seniors when I was on deployment
>be boot Marine in fallujah 2004, AAV crewman
>pic related is an AAV
>be in the troop compartment with the grunts
>things went to shit quick once in the city
>top cargo hatches so grunts can stand and shoot
>adrenaline pumping, shots being fired from everywhere
>grunt in front of him collapses, doc immediate grabs him and spreads him on the center bench seat
>instinctively take his place and shoot at any hajis he sees
>continue making trips back and forth into the city
>continue to take casualties the whole way there
>his section finally gets relieved, they park the tracks and drop the ramps
>crewchief walks up to him with a jerrycan of water, tells him to clean out the track
>tired and hungry he walks up the ramp and splashes water inside
>sees blood running down the ramp, sees chunks of something going with it
>finally hits him, looks into the troop compartment
>blood everywhere, on the walls, on the bench, caked onto the deckplates
>thicker pools with chunks of flesh and brains and bits of bone/skull all over the deckplates
>hands begin to shake, sees the blood wash down the ramp and on his boots
>tells me he was almost paralyzed, hands and knees were shaking
>crewchief takes the jerrycan and tells him to get chow and hit the rack
Spent a lot of field time with this man, especially in the middle east, stories for days
>>80913445
Cardinal Spellman's War.
>>80913445
Well you lost and then everything was fine anyway, so I guess it didn't really need to happen.
>>80915522
Bump
I would have gone MIA
>>80925163
Bump with handsome Marine
>>80913775
>Canada
>we
Shut up faggot. You are unimportant.
>>80925266
Still butthurt about the white house?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=40JmEj0_aVM
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urtiyp-G6jY
>>80924939
He just kinda pushed it out of his way cause he came home to work and raise a family. My brother was born in 1989 and I was born in 1993, He just wanted to do what his father did, which was come home from WW2 and raise a family. He talked with My grandfather (90) about it for the first time and apparently they both had a long conversation about it, I could never understand what he went through and never will, I never will ask what he went through either But I will try to talk to him more about it. Thanks man, I appreciate it, I really do. Im going to bed for now, But just always know that I will grateful what you did for your country and for me
>>80916328
Then why did my dad's stepson never come back?
>>80925378
>the war of 1812
>result: status quo antebellum.
Must be tough having to reach back 200 years for anything even resembling a victory.
I'd list other wars that Canada has won but it's tough since you've only been an actual country since like 1982 or something pathetic like that. I don't know exactly when because it doesn't matter
>>80916328
then why did my wife's son never come back?
>>80925239
Gorgeous young man.
>>80925475
IT AIN'T MEEEE
>North Korean soldiers in Vietnam
>>80913445
if it wasn't for the vietnam war, we wouldn't have 'full metal jacket' and 'platoon'
/thread
>>80925437
Thanks brother.
I'm pulling for you and your dad. Take care friend.
>tfw the military is one if the only place where you can find real diversity
>everyone calls each other the very things that SJWs and niggers throw riots over
>tfw libtards will never achieve the geniune bonds they cry and bitch for that men in combat develop through hardships and the pain of war
>>80925602
Right before I go to bed, Australia brings the bantz. Top kek
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aPKQJQWQhKo
>Pic is R. Lee Ermey as a Cpl.
>>80925266
You're a fucking idiot, you know that?
>>80913445
No, especially with the Indonesian incident in '65.
>>80920430
While useful, the detectors had to be used with some caution. People sniffers were known to be oversensitive and would often detect civilians or animals excreting bodily waste
So if these were a thing, your saying i could paint my feces on any and all wooden posts (trees and such) in a semi random circle around my position and i can say shitposting saved the day?
mfw finding out that a good majority of those who got the medal of honor in vietnam threw themselves on grenades
>>80922568
NAVY SEALs NAVY SEALs ARE PART OF US NAVY
YOU F$#$#$$ CALLING ME A DUMBASS BI%# WHO IS YOUR COMMAND OFFICER MAGGOT
>>80914508
It was the extremely shitty powder they put into the cartridges. Ones they fixed that it works fine and has been working fine in the 50 years since.
>>80928279
Sounds like believable Australian military doctrine if people sniffers did catch on
>>80926529
back when the U.S. was white.
>>80926639
>bayonet fixed
Damn son Charlie was mighty close that day.
>>80914405
Check that nip
It didnt need to but im glad it did happen. That war was cool as fuck.
>>80913445
Every superpower got their arse kicked by a smaller Americans in Vietnam Soviets in Finland and the UK in America
>>80913445
If we stopped listening to liberals, Vietnam could have been a blue nation in a week. lol
>>80915109
Nowadays it is 15 dollar.
>>80921861
Treason is an American tradition, it seems.
>>80913445
The Vietnam war never actually happened. Was just another clever ruse by the sheklebergs to trick the goyim into hating veterans.
>>80919279
You're one of the dumbest mother fuckers I've ever seen on /pol/. Congratulations. I too was once in denial until I went through it in Afghanistan. Explain how we haven't won there. How about Iraq?
I can't stand the 15 year olds who claim this somehow taught us anything. We haven't learned shit hence why we still can't get shit done in the Middle East. Please fuck off forever.
>>80919509
MELBURNIANS GET THE FUCK OUT
