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2016 GOP platform

>ban abortion
>ban gay marriage
>ban gay adoption
>repeal part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act covering sex
>ban women in the military
>no to legalization of cannabis
>coal = clean
>ban gay conversion therapy

This is your platform.
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>>80910196
>>ban gay adoption
>>ban women in the military
>>coal = clean
>>ban gay conversion therapy
these are objectively good things
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>dont care
>dont care
>sounds good
>unaware
>sounds good
>dont care
>what?
>what?
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looks good to me :3
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>>80910374
>>80910457
>>80910482
HURRR DURRR EVERYONE AGREES WITH REGRESSIVE 1950S VIEW OF THE WORLD!
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Also

>traditional marriage
>Trump's been married 5 times now or something

Why are Republicans such hypocrites?
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>>80910724
I literally excluded all of the 1950's positions
stop memeing lad
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>>80911409
The bible says stone adulters. If the GOP wants to follow the bible why isn't it stoning Trump to death?

>>80910930
>>80910930
>>80910930
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>>80911774
>what is common law
the country was founded on enlightenment ideas
you choosing to be an iconoclast and wanting to remove Christianity from public life is problematic

i used to hate the GOP too, but Trump has killed that party and kicked out neocons
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>>80912546
>the country was founded on enlightenment ideas

GOP isn't the constitution. The GOP is founded on biblical ideas.

Therefor I demands that /pol/ go the RNC and tell them to adopt stone adulters Trump in the platform. What I though you guys were Christians on here?
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>>80913204
>The GOP is founded on biblical ideas.
what a load of hogwash

all big parties were found on christian ideas because the US is an overwhelmingly Christian country
As the party of Lincoln and abolition, the GOP was originally the "left" party concentrated in the Uniquely American north whereas the Democrats supported aristocracy and "right" ideas in the South which remained the culture closest to Britain and europe
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>>80910196
>thinking convention platforms matter at all
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>>80910930
Because Christainity has been dead for decades
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>>80914720
So why is their platform so backwards and crazy if the GOP doesn't support it? Trump will have to answer if he supports this platform.
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>>80914983
>Because Christainity has been dead for decades

So what is the GOP? Christians in name only?
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>>80913849
>all big parties were found on christian ideas because the US is an overwhelmingly Christian country

Democratic party isn't Christian.
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>>80915023
Yes, like vast majority of Christians today
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>>80914993
How much did the '92 DNC platform matter to Bill, seeing as he literally did the opposite of everything in there?
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>>80915167
>Yes, like vast majority of Christians today

What is "real" Christianity? Every Christian I talk to says the other Christian isn't real.
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>>80910196
>ban gay conversion therapy

Get rid of this point, and this would be the best platform ever.
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>>80915690
>How much did the '92 DNC platform matter to Bill, seeing as he literally did the opposite of everything in there?

Platform shows where a party is at during a particular time in it's parties history.
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>>80915916
>Get rid of this point, and this would be the best platform ever.

I meant ban on bans on gay conversion therapy.
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>>80915079
fucking hell mate, where did the big bad Christians touch you

Western society is inseparable from Christendom
Modernism is just a rehashed hollowed out form of Enlightenment ideas, which in turn have the same relationship with tradition church teaching

take this for example
Marx believed in Historical materialism which poised that all events in History had an economic basis and will eventually end in Perfect Communism

This idea came from Hegel's dialectic which says that history is a pattern of causation and reaction that will eventually culminate in Spiritual Oneness ie Synthesis

That came from the Christian Idea that all of History was a divine story that would end with judgement and a reconnection with God

it's all the same shit. your hatred of Christianity is irrational because that very position is fundamentally christian in nature
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>>80910196

Trump straight up raped the GOP platform on economic policy and trade as well.

The day that the Republican Party turns it's back on the fundamentals of capitalism and free market conservatism in favor of centrally planned economics, and big government intervention to the tune of a 45% tax on US consumers, is the day I cease being a Republican.

There is something wrong when the Republican nominee mirrors the economic interventionist policies of a self-proclaimed socialist, and something even more wrong when he gets the GOP national platform committee to then adopt this stance.

Trump seriously needs a starter course on Free Trade, starting with Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations.

http://reason.com/archives/2016/07/07/trump-is-raping-the-gops-free-trade-agen
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>>80910724
>>ban gay conversion therapy
this is very progressive
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>>80916205
>, where did the big bad Christians touch you

Yes actually. Christianity literally raped by childhood. Personally I would love to set up death camps for religious people.
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>>80916446
See>>80916002
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>>80910196
This is amazing. Good stuff, we'll finally dumb degeneracy.
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>>80916337
>"Good trade now means going into debt."
College decree didn't help you much, huh son?
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Oh fuck, it was so obvious, OP. The right way for the GOP to win is to become Democrats. Why didn't I see it before!?
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>>80916619
GOP believe in managed trade, not good trade.

NAFTA was drafted by the Republican shits. They have never supported actual free trade.
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>>80916776
>The right way for the GOP to win is to become Democrats.

Most Americans support the Democratic ideology. Most Americans are center left wing.
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>>80916870
[Citation needed]
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>>80910724
Apparently more do than you think.
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>>80910196

Honest question: why don't you join the democrats if conservatism clearly upsets you so much?

You like abortion, gay marriage and adoption, women in the military, DUDE WEED LMAO, guess what? There's already a party that likes all of that stuff! Go hang out with them.
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>>80916497
You've not addressed the meat of any one of my posts
your thread is shit
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>>80916965
>Apparently more do than you think.

How many Americans want to ban porn?
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>>80916806
Yeah. I always leaned republican for the non-degeneracy.
Good trade is just icing on the cake now. Thank heaven for Trump who actually knows how a dollar works.
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>>80916997
>You like abortion, gay marriage and adoption, women in the military, DUDE WEED LMAO, guess what? There's already a party that likes all of that stuff! Go hang out with them.

Because it's 2016 AD. To have a platform like this in the current year is akin to a party bringing back a pro-slavery platform.
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>>80916205
>I must be smart because I type all of my sentences a space apart from each other
>I go on on about Christcuck nonsense despite breaking the Bible's rules on profanity by swearing in my faggoty post
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>>80910196
>>ban abortion
bad
>>ban gay marriage
good, ban all government marriage, it should have never gotten involved
>>ban gay adoption
good
>>repeal part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act covering sex
good
>>ban women in the military
good
>>no to legalization of cannabis
bad, prohibition doesnt work
>>coal = clean
good
>>ban gay conversion therapy
good
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>>80917110
Disprove the point instead of bashing the formatting.
Dumb faggot.
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>>80916937
>[Citation needed]

Gay marriage - support 60%
Cannabis legalization - support 50%
Abortion - support 70%
Single payer healthcare - support 50%

Etc.
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>>80917207
That's not a citation. List a source, faggot.
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>>80916205
Go fuck yourself. Classicism is western civilization, and fortunately it managed to get into the church before Christianity utterly destroyed the west.

Fucking Christians, you nearly killed Greco Roman civilization with your death cult that doesn't give a fuck about earthy glory. THEN you have the fucking NERVE to say there is no western civilization without your desert Levantine heresy of the Egyptian pantheon.
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>>80910196
sounds good
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>>80917101
CURRENT YEAR!

Fuck off, calling someone primitive isn't an argument.
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>>80917247
>That's not a citation. List a source, faggot.

It's called google. Get off your fat fucking ass and look it up. Most agree with liberal Democrats socialists like Bernie Sanders. Sanders has turned an entire generation into left wing Democrats.
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>>80916997
Conservatism wasn't about christfaggotry until the nutters took over the RNC in the 1980s. Should never have pandered to them. Goldwater was right.
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>>80917101
>Because it's 2016 AD. To have a platform like this in the current year is akin to a party bringing back a pro-slavery platform.
oh youre memeing, nice

saged
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>>80917338
>It's another "I list facts now prove my facts for me episode!"
Explains the quality of your previous posts.
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>>80917157
>Marx
>Western Society
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>>80917335
>CURRENT YEAR!

Prove me wrong anon. Do you support everything the bible says, including the parts calling for stoning adulters?
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>>80917476
http://www.pewforum.org/2016/05/12/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/
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>>80910724
>REGRESSIVE 1950S

that was the 60s, communist
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>>80917589
Good man. That's a good source.
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>>80917523
No, because I'm an atheist and don't necessarily agree with the modern GOP platform. Its still infinitely better than the political Left, which is regressive, insane, naive, and self-loathing.
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>>80917634
Which proves me point. People who oppose LGBTQ equality are literally dying out. The GOP is becoming a fossil. Ask your average young person about LGBTQ rights they will all agree and support it. In fact it's one of the key reasons young people don't vote Republican.
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>>80917740
>Its still infinitely better than the political Left, which is regressive, insane, naive, and self-loathing.

How is the Democratic Party regressive?
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>>80917523
>Do you support everything the bible says, including the parts calling for stoning adulters?
Jesus Christ says not to stone adulterers.
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>>80918053
It denies statistical differences between races, sexes, cultures, etc, leading to it supporting and defending some of the most regressive groups on the planet.

The 'straight white male Christian' they rail against is just as you say. A fossil. A corpse. A powerless relic. The Muslim however is young, strong, and expanding, and he is a hundred times more opposed to liberal values than the Christian.

The Republican Party is even too weak, only Trump seems to have any eyes in his head to where the western world is going.
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>>80918059
>Jesus Christ says not to stone adulterers.

Doesn't matter. The bible says they should be stoned. The bible trumps Jesus.
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>>80918053
Meh. It's the muslims. Ethnocentrism and what not. People don't like being blown up, and hillary's plan is to bring in some 65,000 muslims. Like you showed, gay marriage support is up and as such, this is literally ethnocentrism vs. humanitarianism.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/06/24/brexit-vote-highlighted-uks-discontent-with-eu-but-other-european-countries-are-grumbling-too/
>70% disapproved of EU handling of refugees.
That's literally all this election is, mate. Every other issue is meaningless.
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>>80918372
>The 'straight white male Christian' they rail against is just as you say. A fossil. A corpse.

Not in the USA. religion is strong in the USA.

Hillary doesn't pander to Christians. Vote for her.

>The Muslim however is young, strong, and expanding, and he is a hundred times more opposed to liberal values than the Christian.

So neo-con war mongering?
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>>80918492
No
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>>80910196
>he drank the koolaide
BTW I have some magic beans for sale.
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>>80918501
>Meh. It's the muslims. Ethnocentrism and what not. People don't like being blown up, and hillary's plan is to bring in some 65,000 muslims. Like you showed, gay marriage support is up and as such, this is literally ethnocentrism vs. humanitarianism.

65,000 out of a population of 320,000,000 is like 0000.1%.

>Every other issue is meaningless.

Climate change is the only issue that matters, not immigration retard.

Climate change = end of the human race.

You want us to all die? Hillary is the only one who can stop climate change.
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>>80916002

Sounds comfy.
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>>80916337
>he thinks a conservative is for "big-government intervention"
>is a "republican"

[KEKSERVATIVE IDENTIFIED]
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>>80918638
Let me ask you something.

Muslim birthrates are skyrocketing.

Birthrates in the west are below replacement.

Most people follow the same ideology as their parents.

By 2050 most western European nations are expected to have Muslim majorities or pluralities [no group is a majority].

Please explain to me how you expect modern liberal ideology to survive under those conditions?
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>>80918803
Yeah, but that doesn't matter. Muslim is now synonymous with explosions. Explosions are much more visible than climate change. Whether it's true or not, people think more muslims=more explosions, regardless of numbers.
If you can make climate change visible, you'll have a shot. If not, they're going to go for the phenomenon they can see.
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>>80910196
Gotta love those Ted Cruz delegates.
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>>80918492
>that feel when your not this guy.
â–¡|:^)
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Trump is controlled opposition to push millennials off republicanism.

Thread will lock within the next 10 posts
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>>80918865
>Muslim birthrates are skyrocketing.

Again what percent of the US population is Islam? Using your logic we should support legal aboriton since they would control population control.
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>>80918803
>letting China manufacture everything for us is the Climate Positive policy
wew lad. Clinton doesn't care about the environment. she only cares about environmental voters
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>>80919110
>One off
I almost called you Kek, sir.
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I just don't give a fuck about abortion, gay marriage, gay adoption and weed.
Frankly, if the GOP stopped caring too, they'd have a chance to not fade into irrelevancy.

Almost all of the numale-sjw-progressive-bernout butthurt about the GOP centers around identity politics and weed. I'd rather have gays and weed with conservative economics than gays and weed with dem programs.
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>>80919166
KEK SPEAKS. HE IS IN THIS THREAD NOW.
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>>80918865
>By 2050 most western European nations are expected to have Muslim majorities or pluralities [no group is a majority].

That implies all the kids of muslims will believe in Islam when they grow up in a secular society.
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>>80919166
>Clinton doesn't care about the environment.

Trump doesn't care about the environment at all. Only Hillary pick the next US Supreme Court. We need a liberal court to get climate change regulations passed.
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>>80918492

>Protestant detected
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>>80917847
And how many LGBTQ12345BBQ make up the US population, percentage-wise? The last time I checked it was 5% max. Not that relevant compared to the other demographics it could pander to such as Christians or Latinos.
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>>80919158
I'm speaking of the western world as a whole. The United States are going to become a Hispanic plurality country due to mass immigration by the 2040s, which is likely to significantly change the culture as uneducated and undereducated persons vote for failed economic policies, gradually turning the United States into another Latin American socialist shithole.

The political right may be religious morons, but at least they aren't insane nutjobs who want to destroy their own countries for an internationalist ideal that is blatantly impossible.
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>>80910196
>>ban women in the military
This is a good thing.
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>>80919166
Two kek posts! Ima bring out a pepe for this thread!
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>>80919415
>And how many LGBTQ12345BBQ make up the US population, percentage-wise? The last time I checked it was 5% max.

5% is far larger than the Westboro Baptist Church.
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>>80919208
They won't grow up in a secular society, because there is no pressure on them to assimilate, and as noted, the majority of people have the same religious and political views as their parents.
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>>80910196
How is banning gay conversion therapy bad?
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>>80919453
of course you would support that juan. the females in mexico's military and police are the only ones who do their job right.
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>>80919451
>The United States are going to become a Hispanic plurality country due to mass immigration by the 2040s,

And what's wrong with Hispanics? Why are you so racist?
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>>80910196
>ban abortion
bad thing cause it's the only thing keeping nigs in check
>ban gay marriage
>ban gay adoption
Good, gays make shit parents, especially lesbians.
>repeal part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act covering sex
>ban women in the military
These are objectively good things.
>unironically saying men and women should share bathrooms

>no to legalization of cannabis
This is meh, could go either way. It gets rid of obnoxious fucks, but it's not really worse than drinking.
>coal = clean
non-issue, but if they get more environmental I won't mind.
>ban gay conversion therapy
Probably good if it doesn't work.
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>>80919628
It's ethnocentrism mate. Races will always prefer their own kind. We're hardwired that way.
That's like calling a lion racist because he hangs out with lions and not with lynxes.
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>>80910196
>Marijuana is for degenerates and is awful!
>"Hey, honey, want to go out with some friends tonight for drinks?"

Why is it that there are so many people on this board who will say ban the legalization of marijuana but won't include banning alcohol or tobacco?

Do you see the issue here? If you aren't for banning all mind/body altering substances for recreational use, than you are just as bad as a hive mind liberal. You know what's objectively more dangerous and worse than a lazy chronic smoker? A useless raging alcoholic. Are you that opposed to the idea and stereotype of if that you would destroy the idea of utilizing it to create jobs and economic growth?

Stop making platforms on your feelings and actually fucking weigh the pros and cons. "Muh degeneracy" is the opposite side of the same coin as "muh feelings" without actually thinking.
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>>80919616
>How is banning gay conversion therapy bad?

ban on banning gay conversion therapy. It's literally anti-science they are putting in the platform.
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>>80919745
>It's ethnocentrism mate. Races will always prefer their own kind.

There is only one race, the human race.
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>>80919776
We've had alcohol and tobacco for a very long time.
It's tradition.
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>>80917110
>the bible states that thou shalt not swear
In vain, do not take his name in vain. Say whatever you want but do not say his name.
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>>80919531
You forgot about the megachurches, lad. Fit thousands of people to have a preacher tell them gays are going to Hell. Westboro is not the only one. Blacks also hate gays, too. The Democrats are in a bind about this.
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>>80919628
Nothing is wrong with Hispanics. But the majority of these people are uneducated or undereducated, and have a very different culture than we do.

Not only this, but being poor, they are heavily inclined to vote for the candidates that promise them the most benefits, which is and will lead to a society with an ever-expanding class of parasites tied down to failed economic systems.

This is exactly why I'm going to vote for Donald Trump. Because the political left in this country refuses to talk about the most important issues this country faces, namely, the long term consequences of demographic change, the increasing power of international organizations, and the increasingly tight relationship between business and government [outside of people like Bernie, who to his credit rails against it]
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>>80919633
So basically you are ok with going back to 1950s America where only WHITE CHRISTIAN HETEROSEXUAL CIS GENDERED MALES ran everything?
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>>80919848
That's just not true. The demographics, crime stats, IQ tests, and conditions of different countries prove otherwise, as well as the different ecosystems around the globe.
The only way that would be possible is if earth was on giant temperate zone so humans didn't have to evolve to match their various living spaces.
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>>80913204
>>80911774
>>80910196
>being this new

wew lad

/pol/ is altright. We support abortion because the main ones aborted are niglets; and it's also a form of eugenics and population control. Many of us are also atheists.

The main conflict /pol/ cares about is that between globalism and nationalism. We hate globalists from both the left and the right. Just look at how we crucified Jeb, AKA: Yeb.

I can tell you're just some fresh-out-of-high-school faggot from /b/ that heard about /pol/ in-between your trap and "rate my dick" threads; and came here to complain about the supposed existence of a neocon board.
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>>80915915
Anything you want it to be! The bible has so many contradicting viewpoints that you can pretty much choose any of them, and claim that your brand is the best! What a great moral code, right guys?
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>>80910196
wowzers is this really the platform of an establishment cuckservative party?
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>>80919783
Oh so they want to put gay conversion therapy back. Okay. I thought they want to ban it.
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>>80919868
>You forgot about the megachurches, lad. Fit thousands of people to have a preacher tell them gays are going to Hell.

Yeah all the more reason Christianity should be treated like ISIS and ban organized religion.

>Blacks also hate gays, too.

No they don't. My boyfriend is black.
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>>80910724
Please kill yourself.
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>>80919848
That is scientifically incorrect. The word race means 'sub-species', which is defined as a population found primarily in a certain geographic range capable of interbreeding with other populations but which nonetheless has certain identifiable traits.

There are therefore several human races. Doctors need to take race into account when giving certain diagnostics, because there are some procedures [such as bone marrow transplants] where the donor basically HAS to be the same race as you.

Forensics scientists can tell someone's race by their skull structure or by a bone sample.
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>>80919939
>which is and will lead to a society with an ever-expanding class of parasites tied down to failed economic systems.

Bullshit. The reason for poverty in America is capitalism. Sanders has shown us socialism works. We need socialism in this country.
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>>80919961
>pol/ is altright.

/pol/ is not a hive mind. I'm a Marxist.
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>>80920229
>>80920174
You know you could have saved us all a lot of time and effort debating you if you had simply told us you were retarded before this thread started.
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>>80920174
Socialism never works
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>>80920229
Oooh. I've never talked to a real life Marxist before. I thought they only lived in reddit.
/pol/ is the greatest place on the internet, no doubt.
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>>80920319
>Socialism never works

Yes just ask socialist Sweden.
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>>80920038
>My boyfriend is black.

Ok now you are just baiting.
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>>80916337
I don't think so, Schlomo....
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>>80910196

The various brands of socialism and interventionism could not retain their popularity IF people were to discover
that the measures whose adoption is hailed as social progress curtail production and tend to bring about capital decumulation.

Ludwig von Mises- The Theory of Money and Credit
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>>80920358
That's why we love ethnocentrism so much. So long as the population is homogenous, literally any government will function.
Sadly, now that they've let in a pile of muslims, sweden is having problems.
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>>80915916
OP said it wrong, the repubs are championing anti-gay conversion therapy
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>>80920447
>So long as the population is homogenous, literally any government will function.

USA is not homogeneous since it's founding and it became a super power.
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>>80910196
Dude you could have just said "Their platform is to Make America Great Again" and saved me the trouble of reading all that.
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>>80910196
>>coal = clean
only one i have a problem with
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>>80918803
>>80919347
Do you realize that you can never have enough solar panels and windmills yo power the United States?

You would have to build thorium reactors or other forms of nuclear power in order to run the United States. Greenfags hate nuclear, though.

Also, not using the US's oil and coal would just cuck us to the Saudis, Russians, and Chinese for many generations. Hillary's campaign is nearly 20%-funded by the Saudi royal family; because they know she will fuck-over US oil production.

Also, Hillary and Obama's support for globalist capitalism (an ironic twist for modern leftists), in things such as TPP and other types of outsourcing, will just mean China, India, Latin America, and other places that don't give a rat's ass about the environment will produce more pollution.
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>>80920358
Sweden is shit. Communism never works too.
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>>80920229
>this b8
sage before you post everybody
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>>80920664
>Sweden is shit. Communism never works too.

Communism hasn't been tried. America is moving towards worker co-opts
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>>80920532
Incorrect. We were homogeneous for a very long time.
http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/09/28/modern-immigration-wave-brings-59-million-to-u-s-driving-population-growth-and-change-through-2065/ph_2015-09-28_immigration-through-2065-15/
The less homogeneous we've become, the more problems we've had. Our growth has gimped, and everyone acknowledges that.
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>>80920654
>Do you realize that you can never have enough solar panels and windmills yo power the United States?

And yet we haven't invested into solar energy? Why? Because DEM NEGRO OBAMA PUSHING SOCIALISM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Koch brothers are using usual idiots like you to oppose renewable energy.
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>>80910196
The party Platform is a Joke. Trump is Running on his own platform and that platform is largely why many are supporting him.

MAGA
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>>80920532
>he actually believes this
kek

The US was literally 90% white up until the 1950s; and most immigrants were ruthlessly Anglicanized. Trump's family being forced to change their name was a common occurence for other people as well.

Things like the Chinese Exclusion Act, and the Anglicanizing schools for Native Americans were among many bills that forced ethnocentrism. Cosmopolitan globalism is mostly a post-modern trend; and it has many Marxist roots.
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>>80910196
>If abortion had never been legalized dindus would be at least 25% of our population.
>cannabis should be legal
I'm ok with the rest but needs to also repeal women's right to vote
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>>80920886
>TFW you're a race realist
Man, it's so comfy. It literally explains everything. I love white nationalism.
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>>80920886
>The US was literally 90% white up until the 1950s

Whites didn't view other whites as whites until the 1980s.

Irish and Italians weren't considered white back than.
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>>80919859

That's not an argument, but at least you aren't denying your hypocrisy. In case you didn't know:
>Anything can be a tradition if it's done consistently and for long enough.
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>>80921002
It doesn't matter whether they were considered whites or not. They are white. So, it worked.
I could consider my cat to be a dog, but it would make literally no difference in my cat being a cat.
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>>80920868
>muh Koch Brothers

Those guys were anti-Trump.

Also, your pal Mr. ((((Bloomberg))) is just as rich as them, was a literal mayor of NYC, and gives millions to leftist organizations.

For every "Koch Brothers" there's a (((Bloomberg))), a (((Zuckerberg))), and a (((Soros))).
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>this thread
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>>80921055
Yeah. Traditions are hard to root out. Alcohol and tobacco are terrible, of course, but yeah.
Tradition.
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>>80919859
Fuck tradition, I just like the buzz.
Here's my 2 cents:
I wouldn't hire a fucking stoner or a raging alcoholic. Both should be legal, and people should take the responsibility to moderate themselves, not the government.

1. Hang drunk/high drivers. Base field sobriety tests on objective motor control tests. Can't pass a sobriety test sober? Sorry, you don't drive (women and asians and old people better get a ride) Blood tests are only a metric, the burden of proof has to be without doubt that danger is clear and present.

2. You should be able to hire/fire or quit for any reason at any time. Merit should be the only thing that gets you money. Don't care for a boss that allows weed? Tough shit, find a new job, or be your own boss. Crying because you got fired for selling like weed? Same answer.

tl;dr I blew up, sorry.
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>>80920761
It has been many times so far.
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>>80921387
I would like to legalize it, but the slippery slope says I gotta bake fags a gay wedding cake now >.< .
I just err on the side of caution and vote against new stuff until I've had a chance to research it on my own.
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>>80921002
Irish and Italian were not the dominant figures leading society; but they still blended-in better than Hispanics and the fucking Chinese.

Like I said, the US has been mainly an Anglo-Germanic country. The term WASP comes from this.
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>>80921733
IQ map.
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>>80910724
>ywn live in the 1950's
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>>80921773
German confirmed master race?
German confirmed master race.
>>80921733
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>>80910196
Thanks OP, this was a fun thread. I've never gotten to talk to a Marxist before.
Dead serious, thanks, this was fun.
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>>80921655
>gay wedding cakes

Funny how we saw leftists invoking the rights of the corporation when it came to (((Zuckerberg)))'s Facebook and other leftist news sites that shit-out propaganda non-stop; as well as the right for blacks to have their own communities safe from "white gentrification"; but if you don't bake a cake for gays, you can get sued for 600 gorillion shekels.
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>>80921985
Yeah.
Boy, did I learn my lesson. No voting for degeneracy ever now, just safer that way.
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>>80921773
black population density
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>>80922078
Huey. I'm stealing your maps. They're going in the statistics warchest.
You can't have them back.
>>80921773
>>80921733
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>>80910724
Everyone including blacks were better off in the 1950s. Black families were around with higher income than they do today. Nice try though.
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>>80910196
Wall still going up? Still voting R
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>>80910196
>ban abortion

Trump isn't saying this.

>ban gay marriage

When did Trump say this?

>ban gay adoption

Again, never mentioned.

>repeal part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act covering sex

Which of our only viable candidates said this? Nobody.

>ban women in the military

Would be a good idea, but nobody is saying this.
>no to legalization of cannabis

If muh legal weed is that important to you, you should eat a bullet ASAP. And this is coming from a guy who smokes every night.

>coal = clean

Can be fairly clean. And, certainly not as much of a wasteful boondoggle as wind/solar with high costs and low yields.

>ban gay conversion therapy

Huh? You're not even making any sense now.

OP, take your meds, you're going off your rocker tonight.
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>>80910196
Abortion shouldn't be banned. That is the only thing I don't like in OP's list.
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>>80921773
Man, why is California such a shithole?
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>>80921773
>Rhode Island
What the fuck
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>>80922204
>Which of our only viable candidates said this? Nobody.

It doesn't matter it's in your party platform.
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>>80910196
the platforms on both sides are useless. They exist only to placate the extremes of their spectrum. This is why the DNC platform has all kinds of shit in it Hillary will never do. DNC was to placate sanders supporters. RNC's is the placate the religious zelots who dislike Trump and wanted Cruz.
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>>80922375
Half the state is Mexico
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>>80922375
>:^)
Oh you.
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>>80922176
>Wall still going up? Still voting R

So the wall trumps the fact climate change is going to kill off the human race.
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>>80921985
Tell me did left support Jim Crow because gay discrimination is the new Jim Crow for you COCKSUCKING CHRISTFAGS
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>>80922424
Doesn't explain the "white" parts being just as bad, if not significantly worse.
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>>80910196
>ban abortion
Abortion is the intentional and unjusitfied killing of a human being. It's wrong. It's murder or at least close to it.

>ban gay marriage
Homosexuality is not equal to heterosexuality.

>ban gay adoption

That one seems ridiculous. Gay is a sexual preference. There is no ban on adulterers or straight sodomites to be parents.

>no to legalization of cannabis

This is stupid. Cannabis is not worse than alcohol yet the latter is legal. Cannabis could be used in cancer treatment. Of course it's not easy to do research because of it's classification.

>coal = clean

This is obviously bullshit. Coal is not clean. Republicans need to accept science.
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>>80922592
>Abortion is the intentional and unjusitfied killing of a human being.

Guess you can't have contraction since you are "killing" a human being.
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>>80910196
Trump is in favor of legalization of marijuana on the federal level and then leaving it up to states
He hasn't been specific but I think he's gonna be states' rights on gay marriage and abortion as well, most likely--makes sense.
Nobody's even mentioned the Civil Rights Act--huh?
Etc. Whatever, faggot.
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>>80921504
Weirdly, Europe pretty much had communism in the middle ages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_and_Truce_of_God

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/08/29/why-a-medieval-peasant-got-more-vacation-time-than-you/

>Respect was doled out equally: Workers were paid well for short hours, lordship was imposed with heavy burdens, clergy answered to lords and workers alike, being strained under secular investiture.
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>>80911774
You probably defend Muslims. ;>)
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>>80910196
Source?
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>>80917312
The bible is a garbage book and Christianity is a garbage religion, glad somebody else around here can see that.
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>>80922712
This. Literally, the only important thing is a homogenous population. After that, identity politics go out the window as meaningless and the great minds can hash out what is better and what is worse.
Ethnocentrism is the ticket, and that's why I became a white nationalist in the first place.
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>>80922435
>climate change is going to kill-off the human race
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>>80921090
Being fair homie solar efficiency has increased at an unexpected magnitude over the past decade and probably will be a reliable source of energy in a decade or so. Also for the love of god who the fuck wants to use coal. Its terribly ineffective a horrid pollutant (whether or not you blue pill global warning doesn't matter as coal has clear negative effects of the immediate proximity of where its burned in large quantities) and we have a much better fuel source in natural gases. Honestly coal supporters Ill never understand
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>>80922674
>Trump is in favor of legalization of marijuana on the federal level and then leaving it up to states

Good source.

>He hasn't been specific but I think he's gonna be states' rights on gay marriage and abortion as well, most likely--makes sense.

>muh states rights

So states can ban all those things since most Republicans control the GOP.

>Nobody's even mentioned the Civil Rights Act--huh?

GOP is calling for the repeal of the Civil Rights Act and going back to Jim crow.
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>>80922939
You a scientist now anon?
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>>80921773
psst.

I live in north dakota. Most of the high IQs leave and make money in your dumb state, averaging everything out.

>I ended up back in my shithole region, despite my best efforts to gtfo.
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>>80922777
>You probably defend Muslims. ;>)

I hate them. I wish I could kill all religious people and bring back Joseph Stalin.
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>>80920761
>Communism hasn't been tried.
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>>80917207
>Most of the population agrees with me GOYIM!
Not an argument.
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>49 posts by this ID
WEW
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>>80923011
The US has huge coal reserves that can be exploited for little to no money. I know a lot of coal miners in Wyoming.

Ive worked in ethanol plants a know the massive amounts of subsidies being pumped into it, that and wind energy.
My power-line friends cuss wind energy out for causing brown outs.
Nuclear would be a good option, but there the "not in my back yard" shit going on in the upper midwest that is killing development.
Coal plants are already in place, most of them are up to codes, and its still cheaper than the alternatives despite the heavy handed restrictions the gov't has put against them. Coal isnt going any where
Also,
http://www.cleancoalsolutions.com/

its biased, but the site represents good argument that should be weighed before making an opinion.
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>>80919848
Even if that was correct (which it isn't), the left is not going to get their egalitarian paradise; because they support groups like BLM, La Raza, and CAIR which are explicitly ethnocentric.

Also, your support for mass immigration of third-worlders just further undermines the leftist narrative of the white hipster liberal population; because there will be more and more foreign nationalist groups vying to fill the power vacuum.

Some European countries will by majority-Muslim by 2050 if current trends continue. Most Muslims will only care about establishing a caliphate, and won't give a shit what Marxist white pansies like you think. Basically, more immigrants = more ethnocentric enclaves who will strive for resources and power for their own specific group, not giving a shit about your liberal narrative.

Muslim demographics (overtaking of Europe):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

Swedish man shows, with detailed sources, how Sweden is getting turned to shit thanks to excessive leftism and mass-immigration of Africans and Arabs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KSJY0c8QWw

Sociology professor demonstrates how immigration is actually a net negative on the global scale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

It's funny how you leftcucks point to places like Sweden as your supposed havens. Sweden USED to be a nice place. You might actually be able to have a "socialist paradise" if you stopped filling them with niggers.
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>>80923853
I dont know why i said no money. Hyperbole. Fuck me.
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>>80917338
Burden of proof faggot
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>>80910724
>REGRESSIVE
implying the modern left isnt litterally advocating for segregation.
top kek salty fuck
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>>80923105
>bring back Joseph Stalin.
isnt that regressive too :^)
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>>80913204
>The GOP is founded on biblical ideas.
it litterally isnt i love how lefties only know about lefty ideologies. Its founded on small government
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>>80920761
>Communism hasn't been tried
WEW
E
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>>80920229
>you're the hivemind!

>I'm a member of the Ix'Idar Star Collective, not a hivemind individualist puppet like you humans!
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>>80910196
How is this a bad platform?
We want to repeal some of our legal protection to PC fuckwits.
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>>80923059
>Florida goes underwater
>THE HUMAN RACE IS DEAD!
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>>80910196
The GOP Platform could be "Did you see The Purge? That. We're going to do that." and Trump would still win. Clinton just doesn't have the votes.
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>>80924052
Well you see, his brand of regression is correct :^)
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>>80924157
>Small government

>The state should decide what a women does with her body
>The state should decide who qualifies for a marriage
>The state should decide who can adopt kids
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>>80910196
Secure the border, repeal Obamacare, deport the Communists, and adopt Chile's economic policy.
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>>80924398
>We want to repeal some of our legal protection to PC fuckwits.

WAAAAAAAA SAFE SPACE FOR RIGHT WINGERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>80924876
>and adopt Chile's economic policy.

Yeah let's have massive wealth inequality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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>>80924636
>doesn't know the difference between foundations and current trends
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>>80924636
>what is libertarianism?
its okay I know political concepts are hard :^)
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>>80924157
>Its founded on small government

Except that's bullshit.
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>>80924915
Not an argument
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>>80924992
>not an argument
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>>80910196
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>>80924915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdR7WW3XR9c
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>>80924915
Wealth inequality is a meme. The poorest people of capitalist nations are better-off than the poor of commie nations.

Notice how Chile is doing just fine, despite being small; and Venezuela has toilet paper shortages...and food shortages...and gangs of people fighting literally over food.
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>>80922654
>Guess you can't have contraction since you are "killing" a human being.

You mean miscarriage? That's not the fault of the woman. It's not typically the result of a conscious decision.

You're a retard who doesn't know that people can't be blame for something they did not do but can only be blamed about things they did.
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>>80925161
>soviet union
>communist
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>>80925238
I'm talking about condoms. Condoms is murder because you are killing all those babies in the sperm.
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>>80923017
>republicans control the GOP

Gee, I thought the Democrats ran the GOP
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>>80925291
>no true Scottsman

If your shitty form of government never existed, then you have no proof that it's good.
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>>80925340
>babies in the sperm.
>doesnt know what a zygote is
WEW
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>>80925291
Yeah! its not like they had communist symbols on their flag or anything!
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>>80910196
>why not (except the meme 3)
>implemented unconstitutionally
>good
>trans rights weren't covered
>nigr what?
>good
>?
>why is banning that bad?
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What a fucking terrible party

I'm glad that Trump is destroying it from the inside
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>>80915915
How can Christians be real if god isn't real?
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>>80925161
>>80925150
>>80925041
>>80924915

Milton Friedman (Free Market Capitalist) is best tier.
Bernie Sanders (Socialist) is "rob Petere to pay Paul" shit tier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCkTFPLL-Lk
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>>80925496
They weren't real communist regimes. You can't have a dictatorship and communism
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>>80925663
>Milton Friedman (Free Market Capitalist) is best tier.

You mean the guy who openly support fascist dictators? That's your "free market" hero?
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>>80925679
What's a "dictatorship of the proletariat"?
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>>80925679
>You can't have a dictatorship and communism
>You cant have a head of state and a true capitalist society
See I can play your retarded games too
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>>80925679
They did try that in the USSR at the very beginning. It failed horrifically, forcing Lenin to take over and create the centralized state that dictated the means of production.

Your bait is rather stale and bland, with you only being persistant and shifting goal posts everywhere. But you got me to reply, so 2/10
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>>80925765
>What's a "dictatorship of the proletariat"?

Not what you think. You can't have state socialism since socialism is about giving workers control of production. How can they when the state controls it?
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>>80922435
56 post by this ID.
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>>80925705
Learn your history, Fidel Castro supported "democratic" Communist takeover of the Chile government was a path to certain death. Fascism was temporary to displace the Communists, the only level of force sufficient enough and Pinochet is a hero.
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>>80926119
>and Pinochet is a hero.

Yeah let's kill thousands of people. What a hero.
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>>80925950
The state just simply claims that they represent the proletariat
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>>80924877
Calm down Tyrone.
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>>80926182
>The state just simply claims that they represent the proletariat

Doesn't mean it's true faggot.
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>>80924157
Someone needs to educate me on the true roots of the republican party. There's alot of conflicting statements regarding it.
Heres what I think went one:
>Post Mexican-American war: Americans began settling west over new territories. Heated discussion on who exactly owns the land.
>Free Lander Movement takes hold of northern territories. Think of it as the original "Occupy Wall street"
>Just like the occupy movement got hi-jacked by radical, so did the free-lander movement
>abolitionists, progressive social religious types, and their ilk intertwined themselves with economic policies
>Republican party pandered to this movement and was founded on three big principles
>1. Protect norther industry
>2. Pass the Homestead Act
>3. Fund railway expansion
>1 was nothing new, but 2&3 were considered as stepping outside the bounds of government by Democrats.
Then the civil war happened, mostly because Lincoln was elected by what was seen as radicals by even moderate democrats, of course that doesn't mean Douglas was moderate himself.
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>>80910196
I dislike how the right panders to religious fags too, but the religious fags are the equivalent to the tumblrite shit on the left, useful idiots.

They can ban all the shit they want as long as it only applies to their own little bible thumping hick states and doesn't affect me.
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>>80926180
>Yeah let's kill thousands of people. What a hero.
>i want to bring back stalin>>80923105
>stalin killed more people than pinochet
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>>80926180
>During the period of Pinochet's rule, various investigations have identified the murder of 1,200 to 3,200 people with up to 80,000 people forcibly interned and as many as 30,000 tortured. According to the Chilean government, the official number of deaths and forced disappearances stands at 3,095.

Entirely justified.
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>>80926246
exactly communism is always an excuse for dictatorships
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>>80925950
The workers can establish a dictatorship without a semblance of a state?

How are they going to take time off to deal with international politics and trade? How are you going to genocide the Muslims without the efficiency of the state? At best, you'd end up with a mass of anarchic faggots like some nigger country; each "labor union" vying for power over the other like something from Mad Max.

Furthermore, if all attempts towards establishing communism are "not true communism"; then the reverse is true as well for capitalism. No true capitalism has been established, because states still control public funds in the end through currency manipulation and trade mandates with other nations. Therefore, you can't criticize capitalism, because it's never been tried.
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>>80910196
>This 1/10 thead
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>>80926423
>3,200

Even if it was 5,000; that's still a penny compared to those killed in the Marxist regime genocides. Mao got the highest score of all time, around 80 million.
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>59 posts by this ID
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>>80926372
Also, check the population numbers. That's basically one year of Chiraq hood rat deaths.
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>>80926465
>The workers can establish a dictatorship without a semblance of a state?

Though worker co-opts. Socialism is moving away from state top down socialism to socialism being managed by co-opts.
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>>80926739
How are you going to get rare earth metals from China if you're a small labor union commune on the Atlantic Coast?
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>>80926699
>>80926561
http://abc7chicago.com/politics/trump-fires-shots-at-chicagos-soaring-murder-rate/1423315/
>Since President Obama took office in 2009, there have been closer to 3,500 murders in Chicago.
It's ok, it was democratic socialism, we don't count it unless we can call them dictators. Obama isn't to blame.
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>>80910196
>Following a vision for America that is centered >on our core ideals. Hillary will continue her >long-standing emphasis on gender equality and >human rights, including the rights of LGBT >individuals around the globe, and standing up >for an open Internet to ensure that all people >have equal access to information and ideas.

This is one of Hillary's major "National Security Issues." She honestly thinks that whether or not transvestites can be treated fairly in the military is a cornerstone of having a solid national security policy.

This kind of social pandering bullshit is exactly what I find deplorable about the liberal mindset.
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>>80926936
Apologies for the fucked up greentext
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>>80926822
I'm sure their autonomous anarchist collective has vast deposits of Neodymium and Laurentium anon.
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>>80927088
It's hard to imagine a modern Western communist without his i-Phone.
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>>80925340
> doesn't see the need for condoms
Literal kissless virgin detected
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>>80910196

I'm still waiting for a reply to this thread here: >>80923877

I think OP might be BTFO. Hopefully, he's learned something and will slowly get morphed by today's redpills. I've seen lots of people on /pol/ who were former mainstream libcucks that got converted.
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>>80925291
The soviet delegate was presided over by a communist party.

Also

>No true red scum fallacy
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>>80926246
Communism won't survive without people telling the workers how to distribute wealth.

The Soviet union did have a government, and the proletariat formed soviets, or worker's delegation which petitioned the communist party.

In this way the workers in theroy had sway over government, however because communism is completely impractical and high maintenance, people abused the power invested in the state. These people were the communist party.

Ultimately the workers will never have control. The enforcement of communism is it's own oppression.
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>gay conversion therapy
the fuck?
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>>80928343
Communism will work when most/all work will be done by machinery/robots and profits/products will just be shared among everyone.

We're already half-way there with technology, considering how dirthcheap to absolutely free is it today to enjoy some music/film/video game/etc and creators are moving to niche work, merchandising, crowdfunding and so on
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/pol/ is a Republican board now. We all support the GOP no matter what.
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>blabla bla GOP bla bla conservative bla bla racist...
>Libs will vote Hillary, start war with Russia, ww3
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