Is it possible to have a moral society without religion? Why or why not?
>>80831302
what is religion but a society's way of teaching morals?
>>80831302
>Is it possible to have a moral society without religion?
yes
it's just more difficult to decide what those morals will be
>>80831302
No because religion existed before agriculture aka civilization.
Look at the most secular countries in the world and try telling me they're moral.
>>80831302
Some of the most atheist societies are more moral than the third world which is overwhelmingly religious.
There are other factors.
>>80831302
People don't question religion in the way they do the law.
I don't know why, but this is the problem.
How do you define a moral society?
>>80831559
What are the most secular?
>>80831601
>mfw a Jew responded to me
>>80831302
no because literally all our morals come from christianity and we have no reason to believe they would exist without it
>>80831302
No. I'd say especially without the christian religion. When there's no religion there in the end social darwinism and the rule of power prevails. And this can't maintain any social order
>>80831302
No, because it does not give any true incentives materially to be truly moral in mindset since science predicts the Earth and all living beings will die eventually.
>inb4 muh empathy
>>80831302
It is possible, but its harder to define the values, and different people will define the values different. This leads to multiculuralism, because sub cultures will evolve. But the most important values are shared.
If you invite cultures from somewhere else, the shared values will not be shared by all the people. This might ruin society.
If you dont like multiculturalism you need some single person, institution to define the values, like the communist countries do.
>>80831869
literally all of the moral teachings of Christianity were espoused by other ideologies before. The only difference was that Christianity introduced the idea of an omnipotent enforcer of those values who would punish you for not observing them which made people adhere to them more.
t.fedora
>>80831869
>no because literally all our morals come from christianity
Do you live in an inbred town hidden in Blue Mountains or something?
That's such a stupidly narrow statement. How small is your view?
The ten commandments are basic common sense and the Bible promotes a lot of horrendous and stupid shit.
There's nothing special about desert religions.
>>80831302
fuck religion I wanna fuck my sister
>>80832638
Isnt this allowed? (by religion)
I'm so sorry that you lack common sense but that doesn't mean we all need religion, I have fine morals without believing in God
>>80831302
Your religion is immoral, though, as it does not come from God, which is proven by the fact that by the time miracles are requested, excuses abound.
What is Japan?
>>80831408
>reducing the revelation of Christ to le Sunday philosophy club for plebes
I fucking hate you atheist conservative cucks and your christianity envy.
It is not possible to have a moral society.
Religion increases the likelihood persons are moral, but also attracts immoral persons who seek self licencing.
>>80832698
How do you think Adam and Eve started humanity?
>>80831302
Just replace religion with nationalism and everything will be the same.
>>80831302
Religion cribbed three quarters of its substance from philosophy, so theoretically you should just be able to teach people Aristotle and it'd be all good brah. It was good enough for Alexander the Great.
>>80831869
>literally all our morals come from christianity
Yeah bro hellenic tradition literally doesn't exist amirite?
>>80831302
Well, our western societies have been thoroughly secularized.
How did that turn out?
>>80832872
pol already did tbbq famal.
>Let's have debate about religion on the politics board of an anime website notorious for its trolling and bait content XD
Also flag check.
What is philosophy?
I have respect to other people that I don't know and I care about ppl close to me, still I don't believe in supernatural beings. Tho I still lurk /pol/. I say get rid of all religions
In awe of the genius and labor that went into the construction of this building; of the dedication and mastery that went into the statues.
*AWE*
>>80833102
Ethics, politics, ontology, epistemology
No, without religious teachings people would just do bad things to each other.
>the ammount of fedora tiping cucks ITT
the smell is truly awful
>>80831302
define religion, define moral, define society (liberals say society does not exist)
if your question is, can we keep Christian morality without Christianity, then the answer is probably no
>>80831302
No, because people are a bunch of monkeys and a majority of them will do immoral shit if they don't think there's a powerful invisible wizard watching over them.
>>80833828
>define religion, define moral, define society (liberals say society does not exist)
Here we fucking go...
>if your question is, can we keep Christian morality without Christianity, then the answer is probably no
That obviously wasn't my question.
Generally speaking, religion can be used as a tool to encourage moral behavior, but the problem with religion and "moral behavior" is that there is a difference between moral behavior towards believers and non believers / people of different faith. Religion offers exceptions to an otherwise more or less universally agreed upon concept of moral behavior.
>>80834484
the problem is worse, after you define moral you need to ask why do prefer moral over immoral
>>80831302
Relligion is similiar to laws,but in a more abstract way...
If you don't do something destructive because of fear of punishment in hell,you are not better than non-believers who fear the punishment from the state.
>>80834747
>polish intellectuals
>>80835117
ok, there we go again
if your question was "can we keep laws without institution imposing these laws" then the answer is again, probably no
>>80831814
Quasi socialist northern European countries that make /pol/'s collective dick hard are largely irreligious, aside from the recent aloha snackbar installations.
>>80832757
Shinto, Buddhist, and a hefty dose of christfaggotry, plus all the Jews that Japan rather ironically saved during WWII
>>80833375
>No, without religious teachings people would just do bad things to each other.
You mean like blow up school buses and fly planes into buildings? No, only religion does that.
