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http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/bka-zahlreiche-durchsuchungen-wegen-hasspostings-im-netz-a-1102761.html

This morning German federal police searched flats of about 60 suspects for posting 'glorifications of national-socialism and xenophobic, anti-semitic and various other radical-right related things' (aka 'hate speech') in a secret, private group on Facebook.

Goal was to 'step up against growing online verbal-radicalism and the crimes related to it'. Ministry-of-truth president Holger Münch said police has to 'halt brutalization of our language and prosecute criminal content on the internet'.

'Terrible fucking thing' you might think? Well, my fellow germanfags are fucking bursting with joy and exitement.

Thought-crime and thought-police are fucking real, freedom of speech does not exist anymore and you can face serious criminal charges for posting shit online and people are celebrating it like 'weeehooo ma freedomz iz defens'.

As Ignazio Silone once put it: 'When facism returns, it wont say: I'm facism. No, it will say: I'm anti-facism!'

Even though I have no sympathy for those nazi-fuckheads that got busted, it scares the shit out of me that they get prosecuted for saying the wrong stuff online. Also this whole 'we have to controll our language' crap is SJW-shit par excellence.

What to do about this? Leave the damn country or what?
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yes leave. especially after making this thread. the paddywagons are probably already en-route
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>>80830727
You're a Nazi for having a German flag. Serves you right, a bigoted country needs to redefine itself.
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>>80830727
>What to do about this? Leave the damn country or what?
why would you want to leave unless you had to say something bad, eh, nazi?
into the jail you go, reported to the antifaggots and merkel
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>>80830727
You seem to have a decent grasp of the English language.

This means that you come here, because Germany is finished. You'll be safe here, anon. You'll be able to say whatever you want, even if the people around you disagree! Seems like you can't do that in Germanistan.
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>>80830727
It's cute and horrifying that they think that would prevent anything.
Instead of a public debate to decrease the hugbox mentality they play in the hand of tinfoil hats.
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>>80830727
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>>80830727
[THIS COMMENT IS UNAVAILABLE IN YOUR COUNTRY DUE TO HATE SPEECH]
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it`s crazy when you think about it.
We don`t have Free Speach in Germany. Not even free thought.

I tried it myself. The holocaust is probably the biggest sacrileg in Germany and I had to force myself to just accept the thought that it might not have been happened as it is reported.
So I told my friends once when we were talking about free speach and free will what if the holocaust didnt happen the way they told us.
Usually they are pretty open minded some even red pilled.
Instead of an open discussion I saw fear in their eyes. "no no we can`t talk about this!.."
Maybe its just my imagination and I stopped torturing them with this but to be honest the propaganda machine worked when people have deep fears to talk about certain topics.
Oh well you get prosecuted ofc by the government for doubting the holocaust.
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>>80830965
I means there's a shitton of things going wrong in America and we rightfully laugh at you all the time for the stupid crap your people say in public, but damn atleast you get the basic fucking concept of free speech (yeah, I know SJWfags but still). And sadly, nowadays that's something admirable.
Just comment an article like the one linked in OP with 'free speech' and the fucking pc-morons will eat you alive.
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>>80831428
Experienced this myself. There was another case like the one in OP a couple of weeks ago. I read about it when I was with a couple friends (very open-mined people). I was like 'wow, wtf. can't express your thoughts anymore' and you literally could see the horror on their faces as they began to stutter the typical 'but...can't...let...the...wrong...thoughts...happen...have...to..punish'. The indoctrination was so obvious, it was terrible to watch.
And just about everyone - not even exaggerating - here thinks this way. The believe that wrong thoughts and words have to be prosecuted, sanctioned and punished is so deeply rooted in our society that this whole people probably can't be red-pilled anymore.
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>>80830727
> 'glorifications of national-socialism and xenophobic, anti-semitic and various other
>is somehow the same as
>freedom of speech

Yes, please leave you racist imbecile. All you racist go get fucked.
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"We need the government to suppress the idea that the government should suppress ideas it doesn't like!"

t. Germany
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>>80831428
>>80831937

Aw, you poor whiney >muh white race holocaust denying pieces of shit.

Of course you can say and think whatever you want. You are just as free to get fined or thrown into jail for being a gigantic piece of shit though.
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>>80830727
That's what you get for using Kikebook, silly kraut.
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Ain't much better here, kid.

I dunno where I'm going to go. :(
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>>80832191
>Aw, you poor whiney >muh Jewish race Marxist pieces of shit.

>Of course you can say and think whatever you want. You are just as free to get gassed or thrown into labor camps for being a gigantic piece of shit though.
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>>80832014
Far from right, not even conservative and surely not racist (Why would a racist leave his country anyways? To live with people he believes to be subhuman?), but still a strong believer in freedom of speech - especially online. A strong democracy and a decent society that is willing and able to defend its values, should also be able to deal with so called 'hate speech' by logic and arguments, not by simply oppressing it. That's not dealing with the problem at all.

But you politically-correct brainwashed fucking morons don't want to deal with problems anyways. Simply oppress everything you disagree with, close eyes and ears and live in a perfect little bubble, that's what you want, right?
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>>80831428
It's not that I don't think the holocaust didn't happen or anything, but in my opinion everything should be allowed to be said, that includes holocaust denial, muslim propaganda and stalinist propaganda for all I care about.
Because our best tool to deal with shitty idiologies is talking about them.
Censorship never helps and freedom of speech is binary, you either can say everything or you're censoring yourself. And censored opinions are never challanged.
If I say 'Gas all kikes' it's either sarcasm or a genuine opinion.
If it's sarcasm nobody wins by censoring it except people who don't want their feelings hurt by humour.
If it's a genuine opinion there are plenty of ways to proof gassing all kikes is a bad idea.

People make fun of the guys who say "wird man doch noch sagen dürfen".
But they are right, it's a slippery slope. Once you stop allowing things to be said because it offends people there will come more people who find things offensive.
We're seeing it everywhere in europe where muslims are playing the racist card after someone of their religion massacres people in public.
We're seeing it everywhere where people stay in their hugboxes because public opinion doesn't allow that conversation to happen.
This is why islam and nazis are so dangerous. Not because their idiology is so well thought out, but because everybody censors himself so an open discourse can't happen and people don't get their views challanged. Which in turn helps them to poison feeble minds who never would join them if they were aware of other opinions.

So in the name of democracy and freedom of speech I say gas all kikes, hang all niggers and kill whitey
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>>80830727
>Ministry-of-truth
top kek
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>>80830727
To be fair they are only thought policing something most if not almost all people think is bad.
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>>80830727

please leave, we dont want people here who think you can simply produce hate and violence and think they go unpunished.
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>>80832620
Yeah you see, the shit you have written is exactly what no one here wants.
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>>80830727
Has Germany ever pretended to be a real democracy anyway? Germans are too evil to decide for themselves.
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>>80832711
That sounds familiar...
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>>80832857
It's literally your statement but with the variables changed around.

>trolling on /pol/
Would anybody really do that?
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>>80830727
The UK got out at the reich time
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>>80832635
Actually I'd rather have all extremists culled or put to slave labour, but that's just me I guess.

Apart from that, most racists are imbeciles who cannot even understand simple articles, so why bother with any logic. Perlen vor die Säue.

They actively shit on people, are more than often mentally ill and want to murder people solely for being brown, there doesn't need to be any discussion about that.
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>Using facebook for such things
>Ever

Embarrassing! With jews you lose, or as we used to say it in Germany for centuries: "Trau keinem Fuchs auf Grüner Heid' und keinem Jud' auf seinem Eid!"
(Neither trust a fox on a green meadow nor a jew taking an oath).

>>80832651

Based.
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IT'S HAPPENING
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>>80832995
>literally
>being this deranged
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>>80830727
surely, at least ONE person in German government, has read 1984. right??
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>>80833264
Where do you think they got their inspiration from?
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>>80830727
>a secret, private group on Facebook
I guess there's no such thing and it's these peoples own fault to do something so fucking stupid.
I'll panic once I hear people are getting raided for posting dank memes on /pol/.
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>>80833227
Are you really so butthurt that you decided to shit up this thread? Is this how you react to news of your country being garbage? Fucking barbarians.
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The National Criminal Investigation Service (Kripos) in Norway just released a press release which stated they would start hitting down hard on "hate speech" on the internet.

The thing is the law is made so vague, that its up to the police to decide what is hate speech or not.

Guess people were a little bit to dissatisfied online by the enrichment that poured over us last year.
Muslims can of course still threaten and say whatever they want.

NORWAY YES!
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>>80832191

I don't think you understand the base premise of the word "free".

Free speech exists to protect people with horrible opinions that go against the grain, not to protect people with popular opinions.
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"B-but I want to insult these random people over the internet :("

grow up
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>>80833119

> people should literally be put into slavery for disagreeing with my world view.

You're actually defending totalitarianism.
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>>80833264
That's their instruction manual.
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>>80830727
>We've exclusive footage from OP getting a friendly visit from a helpful individual
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>>80833654
>advocating murder of brown people because they're brown is 'going against the grain'

I don't think you understand either our laws, nor what a threat is, neither what the consequences of 'gas all jews' is.

>not to protect people with popular opinions
Basically the popular 'opinion' is to live as you want without bothering or infringing upon other peoples' rights. Racist fucks want to infringe up to murder. Just get fucked.
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>>80833785
Joined the Stasi yet m8? Rat on your mates to the boss for that extra arab cock a week?
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>>80832191

>German notion of 'free'

Are you an American by chance?
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>>80833801
Oh god another dumb post by you. You really don't get it, do you? Or are you a mentally ill racist imbecile who thinks his brain farts and violent fantasies are ' just opinion'?
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>>80833891
>Just get fucked.

This is hate speech and I will report you to the police now

Anzeige ist raus
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>>80830965
Literally impossible for non engineers.
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>>80832705
So were the Nazis. It is incredibly dangerous to cencor 'bad' toughts and words, becaus what's 'bad' and what's not changes all the time. And with the SJW-zombies we're witnessing how it changes again. Simply disagreeing with the wrong people is becoming increasingly 'bad' (because harassment and shit) and therefore condemnable and therefore prosecutable. You can't limit free speech to opinions because of your opinion of 'bad' or because of an opinions popularity. As someone here already put it: freedom of speech is not to protect the popular opinions, but the unpopular - something that, atleast in Germany, the Government is obviously trying to get rid of.
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I'm not really concerned about the government
but the fact you tell me most germans support this
wtf
you guys are fucked
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>>80830727
>people go to jail over a facebook group

The question you should be asking is, how long untill the goverment knocks on your door for stuff you say here?
How long untill 'problematic' websites are ip-blocked by ISPs?

I would be extremely worried if I were you.
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>THE USER WAS BANNED FOR HATE SPEECH
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>>80833914
Fuck off abbo, nobody gains anything by retarded insults and idiots making retarded uprising plans that they're too pussy to make reality.

The only problem here is that police is using their ressources for shit like this instead of preventing actual crimes.
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>>80831428
Yeah pretty much this.

Germans are brainwashed. Literally north korea tier.
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>>80830727
Trump, please save this dying nation.
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>>80830727
Free speech exists here for now, it died in germany with Hitler you should have already realized this, you guys had your balls cut off it's why a women is leading you and you're so fucking left
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>>80830727
>brutalization of our language
>meanwhile even german kids speak kanakisch nowadays
Russia, China, please just end this misery already.
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>>80833993

the termination of the ethnic germans is not just a fantasy, no.
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>>80834054
Why don't you just say that you want to live in a country where murdering brown people because they're brown is 'good' and that it just has to 'change' from it now being 'bad'.

Jesus you people are so fucking retarded.
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>>80834076
Mate I dont know what its like to live in a nation with a Stasi like force, hows the cock? Got a bit of gerth to it?

I heard your mum call her friends and bad mouths Arabs so she can get arrested and get the old cock from a real man.

>>80834134
Its dead mate, too late for anything, and its taking the rest of Europe with it.
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>>80833119
You kinda sound like an extremist.
Why dont you start by culling yourself?
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>>80833891
>Basically the popular 'opinion' is to live as you want without bothering or infringing upon other peoples' rights. Racist fucks want to infringe up to murder. Just get fucked.
Then why are antifa allowed to speak freely.
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>>80830727
> Ministry of Truth
Holy fuck Hans, we're not even that bad yet. GTFO while you still can...
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>>80834259
If you could define an ethnic German by holding up a picture of you, then please, by all means, terminate all of them.

Luckily you can't.
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الحَمْد لله
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>jews conducting extremist war against none jews


what else is new


unless the goyim arms himself and shoots these fuckers on sight, your right will be abused, your hands will be tied.


in this day and age a none jew that owns and is willing to use an assault rifle to fight for his freedom are the only type of none jews that have anything to say.

especially in yurope


semites are garbage to be killed on sight, as well as their shabos goyim
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>>80833119
>learned the word racist
>uses it every time he gets a chance to
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>>80834274
>free speech
>u racist

Get that stick out of your ass, troll. If the case was about some Stalinists getting cucked, I would have written the exact same post, because unlike you god damn weekling, I'm actually able to deal with opinions I don't like.
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>>80834539
When you realize how fucked its getting over there do what the white South Africans did,

Fuck off to Australia, we will take you in, just dont bring that anti free speech shit with ya.
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>>80833859
>oh no, muh Pentium III
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>>80831428
lol what kind of idiotic friends do you have?
I talk with mine all the time about the Holohoax, How hitler was right and why niggers need to be gassed.

>>80834324
What fucking stasi? nobody actually cares about the opinion of random idiots, until they make that public.

In that case something needs to be done before they turn into violent radicals. We don't want any more crime here, rapefugees are already enough.
Let the Rechtsstaat do its work.
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>>80834435
Wait, are you actually being serious right now?

You just respond to everyone by calling them racists and leaving it at that. You can't honestly believe that you're saying anything meaningful here. Why do you even use 4chan?
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>>80834274
you don't seem to understand anything, do you?
all you do is insult people as stupid and racist.
come up with arguments instead of insults and ignorance towards different opinions.
offend is taken, not given.
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>>80830727

>TFW potatoes fail just as hard.....

.......

>http://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/Irish-pastor-to-be-prosecuted-for-calling-Islam-a-satanic-belief.html

>A Belfast preacher will be prosecuted for referring to Islam as “satanic” and claiming that its doctrine was “spawned in hell.”

>During a sermon at his Whitewell Metropolitan Tabernacle in May 2014, 78-year-old born-again Christian pastor James McConnell denounced Islam as a “heathen” religion, saying it was barbarian and Godless.

>Speaking to the BBC, a representative for the Public Prosecution Service in North Ireland said that McConnell had spoken in violation of the Communications Act 2003 by “sending, or causing to be sent, by means of a public electronic communications network, a message or other matter that was grossly offensive.”

.....

>TFW potatoes completely redeem themselves....

........

>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/05/satanic-islam-pastor-james-mcconnell-found-not-guilty/

>District judge Liam McNally said: “The courts need to be very careful not to criticise speech which, however contemptible, is no more than offensive. It is not the task of the criminal law to censor offensive utterances, adding: “Accordingly I find Pastor McConnell not guilty of both charges”, the Belfast Telegraph reports.

>Pastor James McConnell verdict: NOT GUILTY
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>>80833891
Why stop with the Jews and don't gas... Not enough suffering involved.

Fucking retard if the words hurt your feelings, tuff break fuckface. Being able to say what you want to is free speach.

I hope the next thing führer Merkel has installed is being dumber than average, at least we will be rid of retards like you.
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>>80834692
>Secret Group
>Public

They where looking for these pages, even the secret ones,

The dip shits shouldn't of used face book, but its hardly public.

why dont you go back and get your "Arab Defense" Commemorative plate from HQ?
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>>80830727
its important to let all the germans know of this, that they cannot voice opinions that do not line with the goverments opinion
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>>80833891

Are you retarded? Racism is not the same as advocating for murder, racism is the idea or opinion that your race is better than others and general hatred for members of other races.

Words have definitions anon, you can't just warp them to suit your narrative.
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>>80830727
>What to do about this?

Simple:

1. Purchase your prayer rug.

2. Purchase your first Koran.

3. Study engineering so that you can help design and build the minarets that will soon be erected around all of your churches.

What else can you do?
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>>80834777

Okay, let's try this.
You're a Syrian refugee whose skin colour is rather dark.

I'm a Neonazi from Sachsen.

I want to murder you, because you are inferior to me, the >muh white race guy.

Go ahead, argue while I poison the public discourse with my garbage. Go ahead.

All 'yFrRWYxr' need to be gassed because their genes are inferior!
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>>80833591
>The thing is the law is made so vague,

every "hate speech" law is that way on purpose.
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>>80834917
what the fuck has this to do with arabs and niggers?

>idiots make group on fagbook
>they talk unneccessary shit
>danger that they turn into radicals themselves emerges
>government stops them before they do something stupid
>no casualities

That ain't the abbo outback here, we have LAWS.
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>>80833993

I have not said anything racist at all, you're trying to strawman my argument.

You have a totalitarian ideology, sorry anon, but you can't handle opinions, you conflate racism with murder and ignore the definition of words to suit your arguments.

You're a moron.
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>>80834977
It's not the government's opinion, it's our constitution and penal law these people go against.

>>80835037
>racism is the idea or opinion that your race is better than others and general hatred for members of other races

And that's supposed to lead where and help how in a multi-racial society and globalized world?
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>>80835229
>danger that they turn into radicals themselves emerges
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>>80835229

>idiots make group on fagbook
>they talk unneccessary shit
>danger that they turn into radicals themselves emerges
>government dose nothing because they are Islamic
>lol sorry Brussels
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>>80835332

It's not, nor did I say it should, what I'm saying is that throwing people into prison or slavery for having these views is wrong and goes against the very notion of free speech and thought.
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>>80831335
kek
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>What to do about this?

Start killing your politicians and all those behinds these decisions.

Seriously, why the fuck haven't you done that by now?

You all bitch about Merkel and her anti-German agenda, but you don't do shit about it.
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>>80835163

What is there to argue tho?

If the neonazi guy is talking non-sense, then no one will take him seriously

if the neonazi guy is right, then his discourse is not garbage
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>>80835345
>retards start plotting stupid shit
>civilians get injured in worst case

See where the problem is?

>>80835387
Islamic radicals are also being watched by the government.
Why do you think we didn't had any Islamic terrorism here despite 1mio+ refugees?
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>>80835286
No, I'm genuinely asking whether you had the lobotomy I think you had. See >>80835332
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>>80835163
By your own logic, the very post that you made just now wouldn't have been allowed to begin with. Idiot.
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>>80835561
> Merkel invites the world in
> civilians get injured and women get raped in worst case

Under that argument, even Merkel is an extremist, why are they not arresting her?
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>>80835561
Because you export them to the rest of Europe?
Your nation pushed a system to protect them, cus muh Islam.

Ducks must fly,
Fish must swim,
Digs must hunt,
Germans must destroy Europe.
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>>80835551
You underestimate the idiocy of the general populace, I mean, look at this board, look at Trump, look at the Brexit..
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>>80835694
Look at Germany
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>>80832014

Fuck off nigger faggot kike
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>>80835610

How is this in any way a counter point? All you tried to do was shift the argument away from free speech to globalism.
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>>80832191
The Holohoax didn't happen
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>>80835628
Yeah, ironic, isn't it. Luckily I had you to point it out to me.

el oh el.
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>>80835874
Hallo Achmed, are you retarded ?
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>>80835694
Fuck the eternal kraut. We should have exterminated you and partioned whatever would have been left of Germany.
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>>80835694

Let me guess, you just happen to be the oh wise one that is not like everyone else, and is truly enlightened

Narcissim much?

Also, killing syrian refugees is not idiocy, you may argue that it violates some human rights, but killing those that you consider enemies is not a sign of idiocy

Were the Romans idiots for completely destroying Carthagus? At worst they exaggerated a perceived threat, I don't see how not being an idiot prevents you fromn acting against threats
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>>80830727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvAnQqVJ3XQ

>Official Theme for next 2 decades
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>>80832620
kek
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>>80835874

The German government should gas all their Muslims
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I'm unironically a fullblown nazi. It has nothing to do with my hatred for Jews. It has everything to do with my hatred for capitalism and my admiration of keynesian economics and central planning. Am I going to jail just for that? Just for being a socialist?
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>>80835788
Oh, I am sorry, I forgot you are unable to think something through, just like the Brexit.

Now it makes sense that you cannot keep up with the conversation here and stick to some definitions.
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>U.S. Internet giants Facebook Inc., Twitter Inc., Google and Microsoft Corp. pledged to tackle online hate speech in less than 24 hours as part of a joint commitment with the European Union
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-31/tech-giants-vow-to-tackle-online-hate-speech-within-24-hours

>Chiropractor gets 8 months for being racist on Facebook
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-05/man-who-abused-nova-peris-on-facebook-gets-suspended-sentence/7568912

>Here's what happened to one that dared to create an refugee-critical group on facebook
>1500€ fine
>10 months prison on parole
>1000€ fine for his wife, for not talking him out of it.
>they are both in the criminal register now and will have problems finding a job
http://www.pi-news.net/2016/07/dachau-bestrafe-einen-erziehe-hundert/
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>>80835124

Wait and stop crying for a start. Our enemies here fell into a strategic trap that they will never get out of again. I promise you that I can defeat both the muslim and leftist menace here in a single blow without bloodshed. The plan is very detailed and of course depends on me becoming at least a Bundesminister. But the essence are the following two insights:
1. We must win the ideological war. This cannot be achieved by putting futile resistance with all those groups. The momentum of time is on their side and everyone jumping into the wave will drown. To win this war, you must use the second insight:
2. The enemy is fractured. The greatest error of people here is to assume that the enemy is "Islam". This is wrong, foolish and will make you feel overwhelmed. The truth is that there are multiple, rivaling sects. I have seen it with my own eyes how much hate is between them. I have been to their meetings, I know how these people think and act. I guarantee that you can lead them into rash action with a strategy I won't post here. Those people act like automatons, worse than any western degenerate.

I hope that developments such as AfD and everything else will fail, because only then would my plan work. Trust me, the enemy is on a course to doom and will only change it when being confronted.
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>>80835694
Do Germans just wake up everyday and reflexively begin composing defenses of authoritarianism? Like

>coffee
>shower
>breakfast
>THE STATE MUST HAVE ALL POWER
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>>80836104
You resort to a personal attack in an attempt to forget your genuine error. You have no logic.
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>>80836104

Why do yoi even care about Brexit anyways?

You say that you think most people are idiots, yet here you are, wanting to be governed by even more idiots, instead of devolving as much power as possible to yourself
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>>80830965
>wanting more cowards to come here
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On another note: Police in UK now records 'misogyny' as hate crime. 'It means abuse or harassment which might not be a crime can be reported to and investigated by the police, and support for the victim put in place.'

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-36775398

Prepare yourselves ukfags.

Also it seems like they just waited for football to make peoples brains dense, so they can even push the dumbest parts of their agenda.
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>>80835665
>civilians get injured and women get raped in worst case
Around blacks never relax, also its only hitting the pro refugee fags most of the time anyway so who gives a shit if some liberal roastie got enriched.

Also the police is investigating the rapefugee crimes, I don't get where the myth comes from that the cops
do nothing.

>>80835670
Who cares about islam, people need help. Germans give them Help.

Sure some criminals slip in but most people are glad that they now can live in safety.
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>>80835163
So what? That's words, nothing more. Your opinion might be retarded, but it's still only that, until you either threat someone directly or encourage someone else to do this. It's the difference between "let's do this" and "they should be". Also
>public discourse
>in a private group
Unless they actually planned to harm others, there is no reason to prosecute them for their opinions.
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>>80835163
Because neo-nazis want to kill people.... That's what they do. They definitely don't want to help people
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>>80834444
This is an english board, faggot. Dont speak german.
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>>80835694
Holy shit, Mehmet, get the fuck out.
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>>80836348

> Only 6 suspects after thousands of immigrants harass women in Cologne
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>>80836348
>people need help

No they dont

What people need is to stop breeding like fucking rabbits to improve themselves

All "helping" those is to import chronic problems and solve nothing in the long run

but "muh christian sentimentalism"
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>>80836487
Shit organisation of Police forces in cologne, so what?
Crimes happen when police isn't looking.
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>>80836216
You're really too retarded for a hypothetical.
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>>80834020
Just fly to Mexico and skip over the border.

Better hurry up though, I hear we're building a wall soon.
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>>80836348
Sure mate, sure.

5th Generation Warfare,

>Who cares about islam, people need help. Germans give them Help.
Germans give them a breeding ground, enjoy living in new Arabia
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>>80836487
To be fair, have you seen the amount of left leaning stupid cunts denying their color of skin/language spoken.

They rather deny that they are rapefuges than giving them a bad reputation.
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>>80836605

if you wanna import the underclass of the entire world, I really hope you love militarized USA-style police forces, because it is not going to work in any other way
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>>80836594
Some certainly do, some don't. Filtering the bad people out is a huge task and Germany wasn't prepared for this shit.

It all comes down to shitty organisation and planning anyway.
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>>80836750

Germany does not need to do shit for those people

Zeus is not going to come down and strike you for not doing so, and Jesus "love the poor" Christ is a retarded enabler of mysery

"Bad people" is a meaningless concept, you don't have a mind reader filtering for every thought of everyone coming in

Never mind that a good amount of extremism and crime within immigrant communities comes from second generation immigrants

The Belgian attackers were born there to Yemeni refugees
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>>80836725
We could call them SA and SS, sounds like an good idea :^)
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>>80830727
>Ministry-of-truth president Holger

Seriously fuck Germany, I'm beginning to believe beyond a reasonable doubt they are the true driving force behind the authoritarian leftist censorship and propaganda the EU is guilty of. Hell, they are even responsible for the refugee fun we are currently dealing with.

Looked at from the EU's perspective, one can reasonably state that Germany is singlehandedly harming not only the member states, the EU as a whole but genuinely crashing it with no survivors. Meanwhile, just for good measure, they are taking every principle they pretended to represent down with them.

Why the EU autocrats haven't distanced themselves from Germany yet is beyond me. Sure, Germany is powerful, but there should be enough consensus to overrule fuhrer merkel's bullshit by emergency brake NOW.
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>>80836615
That's hate speech against the mentally challenged. I hereby sentence you to 7 months in prison.
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>>80836974
>the true driving force behind the authoritarian leftist censorship and propaganda the EU is guilty of

They are

Look at this retardation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_Against_the_Right
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>>80830727
Sweden hand over those trophies, your days as the king of cucks are numebered.
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>>80836692
What breeding grounds?
What they do with their woman ain't our business.

>>80836725
if we planned it better than it wouldn't have to go that far.
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>>80836974
>I'm beginning to believe
Srsly? Are you fucking retarded.

Merkle says jump and the EU fucking jumps. And your only starting to realize that bitch and the r3etarded Germans who vote for her are behind it.
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>>80836750
And savotaging left subhumans.
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>>80836974
>>80837090
What the fuck am I saying, your a god damn cheese head afterall.
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>>80830727
The fact you don't get why they overreact like this is fucking hilarious
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>>80837024
Holy shit
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>>80837032
Their white German women they would at the train-station eh?
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Look at some of the verdicts and you will clearly see that those laws go far deeper than calling for genocide, arbitrary things can be brought to court.

>Denying or relativizing the holocaust. The defendand of a person denying the holocaust can be convicted too when he tries to deny or relativise the holocaust during his defense
BGH – URTEIL, 5 STR 485/01 VOM 10.04.2002

>It can be denied by the police to shout the "national resistance" during demonstrations
VG-FREIBURG – BESCHLUSS, 4 K 1834/02 VOM 13.09.2002

>Saying that foreigners are "social parasites"
OLG-FRANKFURT – BESCHLUSS, 2 SS 147/00 VOM 15.08.2000

>Publicly saying that "refugees rape and murder" and are a public danger
AG-Dachau - URTEIL, 06.07.2016

>Of course those laws don't apply to things the Quran says about non-believers or secular muslims
OLG-STUTTGART – URTEIL, 1 SS 175/11 VOM 19.05.2011

>People that are found guilty multiple times can be denied the right to publicly speak
VG-DARMSTADT – BESCHLUSS, 3 L 126/08 VOM 25.01.2008

http://www.juraforum.de/urteile/begriffe/volksverhetzung
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/dachau/dachau-bewaehrungsstrafe-wegen-volksverhetzung-1.3066010
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>>80837032

for what purpose tho?

Turks are far higher rates of unemployment and crime than native germans, even after 3 generations and endless gimmedat of the german government

Why do you want even MORE of that crap?

Why do you win by turning whole areas of the your cities into the suburbs of Paris, rioting every single new year, destroying cars and property while demanding more gimmedats?

Jesus does not exist. You won't get to go to Heaven for cucking
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Germans are a weird bunch of people, I won't mourn their demise though.
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>>80830727
>Ministry-of-truth president

NO FUCKING WAY
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>>80836910
>Germany does not need to do shit for those people
But we wanted to help. Germans are people who got their heart in the right place.
Unfortunately all this shit happened too fast and help wasn't planned very effective, also Soros NGOs doing their work fucked us over.
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>>80836974
Most importantly Germany is mainly responsible for the completely fucked-up economy of most EU members. Merkel and Schäubles economy-policies are a god tier clusterfuck. Seriously, even as a German I would understand, maybe even support, the EU distancing itself from Germany.
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>>80837032
If that plan involved shipping them right into camps outside of Europe, yes.
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>>80837349
>Germans are people who got their heart in the right place.

Again, "muh christian sentimentalism"

Are you trolling, or do you really believe that the Japanese have their hearts in their head or in their butts for refusing to spread their open wides?
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>>80837221
>People that are found guilty multiple times can be denied the right to publicly speak
This is... wow, what are they gonna do, cut my tounge ?

>We are against Facism.
>If you say anything against our Agenda, you are a facist
>We won't let facists talk

Is this some kind of giant joke i don't get ?
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>>80837024
God damnit.. I don't know how much more of this I can take. It's so retarded it physically hurts.
Seriously, the only sympathies I have with the (far) right stem directly from it being my only recourse to opposing what can only, beyond any reasonable definition, be named complete and utter insanity. It's like these people have absolutely no concept of the consequences of their actions, they live in fucking lala land and are truly unfit to hold any kind of power.

If I were the EU I would do what the EU SHOULD, stay the fuck out of it. Seriously. The right comes to power? Cool, welcome to the EU. Left comes to power? Cool, welcome to the EU. We are a political and trading union working for the benefit of Europe as a whole, fuck your ideological bullshit. Keep it local.

But no, they can't see the rise of far left fascism nearly as well as they misrepresent the responding rise of the right.
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Stalin would be proud.
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>>80836176
Godspeed germanbro
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>>80837349
You "want to help" but waste the resources and the future of the general public that does not "want to help".

You cannot just forcibly redistribute wealth and resources to a group of people, that also tends to rape and murder and hate your entirely culture and expect people to remain peaceful.

People like you are the cause for this violence, if you just went to middle east and paid for this with your own money nobody would have any problems.

There is not a single case where retarded behavior like this didn't end up in a civil war after some time.
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>>80837236
>>80837440
The right thing to do was to build the camps in Turkey near the syrian border and sending volunteers to help the real refugees.
But like I said, Soros Think tanks, NGOs highjacked the whole thing and directed the refugee shit from all over the world in our country.

and now we Germans have to deal with it.
Calling people worthless niggers isn't making the situation any better.
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>>80837446
Well you have to register public demonstration, they will say "no" or shut it down if you speak.
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>>80837642
>You "want to help" but waste the resources and the future of the general public that does not "want to help".
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>>80837651

> and now we Germans have to deal with it.

why? Will Zeus really come and strike them down with a thunder should Germans decide to actually go through that plan and send them all to turkey camps?
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Not even we do this shit
How cucked can you be?
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>>80835229
Oh man, let me stop you from talking to people, restrict your rights because you might become radicals and do something, even though we can't even find any evidence that you plan something criminal, but some people have committed crimes in the past and they think similar things that you think, so we gonna judge everyone, even if you have NOT BROKEN ANY LAW.
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>>80837090
Get fucked by an emu you drunken beach trash, the cheesehead migration to your abo shithole is the only reason you're half decent as it is.

On topic: honestly there was much to consider, it was too simple of an explanation for too complex a problem. I started being relatively certain of it after Merkel and Obongo pushed TTIP stating explicitly they would speed up because it was against the public's wishes.

But for a reasonable man it takes a long time to come to such a harsh conclusion. Now it can be said without reasonable doubt this all comes back to fuhrer merkel and the utter retards supporting/pushing her.
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>>80837221
Hahaha.

>Look at me, I am the fascist now .jpg


Christ the hypocrisy is insane.
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>>80837739
Living in a latin american catholic country really took its toll on you and religion, huh.

Did you know only about a third of Germans are christians? Feels good.
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>>80832857
>Yeah you see, the shit you have written is exactly what no one here wants.

And Nazi Germany did not start out gassing dissidents, but penalizing them with fines and imprisonment, you delusional piece of shit. You're advocating for government action of fining and locking people up for opinions, which could lead to the precipice of people advocating harsher penalties towards your new "undesirables", especially when your country reaches Sweden levels of insanity. Pic related.

You were given an opportunity for true freedom of speech, paid for with the blood of many people from around the world, and you ungrateful fucking faggots are throwing it away.
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>>80830727
[COMMENT REDACTED BY THE GERMAN MINISTRY OF TRUTH]
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lol to think we used to fear the Germans,

now they are lesson in not being cucked.
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>>80837750
>Not even we do this shit
Yes you do, Sven. Yes you fucking do.
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>>80837905
No we don't.

You do though Henk, fucking cuck.
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>>80837781
D'awww I love you too <3

It was pretty clear from outside of the EU what was going on,

Every time the EU did something it was Merkel explaining why it should happen, and how it would happen.

It seemed like she had more say than anyone else, and she does.

Even now, shes the one talking "For" the EU regarding Brexit.
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>>80837897
>Hindenburg
>Zeppelinburg

what is this, five things that are not Jackie Chan?
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>>80837873

> inb4 the other two thirds are muslim

seriously tho, they only call themselves non-christians so that religion is not an obstacle fo FULLY loving their enemies

All those left-voters are hyper-christians that became holier than Jesus
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>>80830727

This is an interesting question, what is free speech really? Is it ok to say anything about anyone under every circumstance?

- Most countries have laws against slandering that is telling untruths about individuals with the goal to destroy that persons reputation.

- Most countries nowadays also have "slandering" or hate laws against slandering groups of people that is in minority or in any other form of disadvantage.

- Most countries also have laws forbidding activities or speech that have the purpose to cause or incite instability or limiting free speech itself.

Is it ok to use free speech when the intent is to harm or slander? Where does one draw the line? I have no idea.
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>>80830727
Run away. Its the first step. It will get worse. More and more people will be prosecuted. The punishments will get worse. History repeats itself
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>>80838050
I believe the Author was from.

TotsnotdrunkwhenImadethisburg
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>>80838115
>tfw wating for my yellow star that says "Nazi"
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>>80836360
Well, then prove that they planned to kill someone.
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>there are cuckolds that don't want words that disagree with their viewpoints to be said

Is this real? That's like only wanting to play pick up basketball against girls
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>>80837709
Because whole germany now lies in ashes?
Everything still works like it worked before.
I still have my comfy job and still live in a comfy white people only neighbourhood.

Refugees exist in my city but they sit around in the industrial zone sleeping all day.

>>80837739
It ain't that easy to get rid of them. You can't just deport them over night.

Bad decisions where made and now
It takes time for cleanup.
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>>80837885
No, they first and foremost started with formenting Antisemitism, nationalism and racism in the public sphere, before they started unveiled threats which they then proceeded to carry out. Ever heard of "Der Stürmer"?
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>>80830727

Is it actually called the ministry of truth? Isn't that from 1984?

I don't think that's the real name lads.
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>>80830727
France is also striking at "hate speech" on the Internet.

A special division is under creation, it will first aims at people with the most follower, then it will attack average Joe.

There is no exact definition of hate speech in France so everything not supporting the narrative might be hate speech.

Facebook and Twitter users will be the first to get pacified...
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>>80838112
Well, I'm okay with our laws and the courts' general interpretations. It really is only racists crying out over this. Which is ironic, because they'd restrict speech in a hearbeat.
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>>80838010
>>80837750
>Michael Hess, a local politician from Sweden Democrat Party, encouraged Swedish journalists to get acquainted with Islam's view of women, in connection with the many rapes that took place in Cairo's Tahrir Square during the "Arab Spring". Hess wrote, "When will you journalists realize that it is deeply rooted in Islam's culture to rape and brutalize women who refuse to comply with Islamic teachings. There is a strong connection between rapes in Sweden and the number of immigrants from MENA-countries [Middle East and North Africa].

>This remark led to Michael Hess being charged with "denigration of ethnic groups" [hets mot folkgrupp], a crime in Sweden. In May last year, he was handed a suspended jail sentence and a fine -- the suspension was due to the fact that he had no prior convictions

>For many years, Michael Hess lived in Muslim countries, and he is well acquainted with Islam and its view of women. During his trial, he provided evidence of how sharia law deals with rape, and statistics to indicate that Muslims are vastly overrepresented among perpetrators of rape in Sweden. However, the court decided that facts were irrelevant

>The Court [Tingsrätten] notes that the question of whether or not Michael Hess's pronouncement is true, or appeared to be true to Michael Hess, has no bearing on the case. Michael Hess's statement must be judged based on its timing and context. ... At the time of the offense, Michael Hess referred neither to established research nor to Islamic sources. It was only in connection with his indictment that Michael Hess tried to find support in research and religious writings. The Court therefore notes that Michael Hess's pronouncement was obviously not a part of any reasoned [saklig] or trustworthy [vederhäftig] discussion. Michael Hess's pronouncement must therefore be viewed as an expression of disdain for immigrants with an Islamic faith

http://www.d-intl.com/2014/05/08/hets-mot-folkgrupp-aven-om-det-ar-sant/
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>>80835561
>retards start plotting stupid shit

it does not apply to antifa, they plot "stupid shit" all the time, in public, call the public, people actually get hurt, no fucks given.

it does not apply to mudslims, preaching kill all infidels, all homos,

It does not apply to politicians calling for the genocide of the german populace
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>>80838375
No one gives a shit what random people post on the internet though.
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>>80838375
I especially liked this part:
>The Court [Tingsrätten] notes that the question of whether or not Michael Hess's pronouncement is true, or appeared to be true to Michael Hess, has no bearing on the case.
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>>80838436
What the fuck you talking about?
Last week there was a huge brawl between cops and antifa/leftist faggots.
20 something cops were wounded by these fucks.
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>>80830727
Elect someone else? When is that truie Merkel leaving?
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>>80838010
I can't find any case, (perhaps because your population is so cucked and docile they toe the lie), but an equivalent law was passed some time ago.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/18116-new-swedish-law-criminalizes-anti-immigration-internet-speech

>But Sweden’s new law adds another layer of hate-speech prohibition to the social ostracism. As Fria Tider (Free Times) reported (translated electronically from Swedish and then edited for grammar and word usage) in a piece entitled “New Law Makes it Easier to Prosecute Those Who Offend Immigrants or Those in Power,” “The crime of ‘insult’ will be prosecuted — but only for giving offense to immigrants, LGBTQ persons or authorities ... [under a] common insult to the public prosecution.” The law has been pushed by Swedish parliamentarian Andreas Norlén, who said, during what Fria Tider described as “an unchallenged debate on the issue in parliament,” “I do not think it takes very many prosecutions before a signal is transmitted in the community that the Internet is not a lawless country — the sheriff is back in town.”

>And unchallenged is precisely how Swedish authorities — and many other Western governments — want their leftist agenda to be, with immigration in particular enjoying sanctified status in Sweden. As CBN reported earlier this month in a piece entitled “Soviet Sweden? Model Nation Sliding to Third World”:

>Sweden’s leftist establishment and media believe a cornerstone of their perfect society is multiculturalism — large-scale immigration from some of the poorest, most backward nations on Earth — and Swedes who disagree with that plan risk being labeled racist, fascist, even Nazi. “Immigration is the starting point and the finishing point. It's the most important point to prove you're friendly toward foreigners, you're friendly toward immigration," Danish journalist Mikael Jalving, author of the book Absolut Sweden, said.

SWEDEN YES
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>>80837349
There was no referendum, no public vote or anything. The public was never asked. Merkel just said "come on in", ignoring existing laws for asylum and borders and leaving us in this mess.
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>>80834076
real crimes like the mass rape of white women by arabs?

i wonder if this will become a new year tradition in Germany and youll be prosecuted for complaining about it because it is now a cultural event and that would be "hate speech"
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>>80838375
How do you reconcile this with the Islamic "behavioural law" of lowering your eyes when you see a woman?

Now, by all means, Islam's shit and fosters a sexually tense society, but there's no advocation of raping Muslim women, who most Egyptians are I assume.

Those rapists were sexually charged rapists.
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>>80838024
It's one thing for her to have a lot of say, or even be the mouth-piece for the EU. Shoot the messenger and such. But it's a whole different story if the larger whole of the ideological cancer sweeping the EU actually traces back directly to her and her cronies.

Sure, she may still be the public face of some globalist puppet masters pushing these things. But this could be stopped if the Germans willed it. The EU REALLY needs to distance itself from fuhrer merkel. Germany may be the biggest, but their cooperation is not necessary. They are the ones who pushed for the EU to be as supranational as it is, time for that to be turned against them.
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>>80838606
Like I already said, highjacked by Soros.
Merkel should of course be punished.
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>>80838552
120+
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>>80837703
>Well you have to register public demonstration,

only if you are a law abiding citizen, antifa (lefties in general) just goes and demonstrates.
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Sweet Jesus I can't wait to mow down some Germans on D-Day 2.0. We all know where this is going. Since Brexit, the EU is actively pushing for military integration, without NATO oversight. The German state is constitutionally prohibited from forming a large army so now it seeks mercenaries from its neighbors. Let's not also forget about the TOXIC relationship between the continental European powers and the 5EYEs over the endless spying.

The entire German nation holds to a kind of Kantian ideal of Christian socialism which is the essence of their culture. All you people saying Germans are brainwashed, no, they aren't, this is how they've always been. Their culture has simply adapted to contemporary circumstances. The war for civil rights in Europe will not be won without a recognition of the fact that we're also battling the ugly face of German exceptionalism like we have so many times before.
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USA NO

https://theintercept.com/2016/07/12/after-dallas-shootings-police-arrest-people-for-criticizing-cops-on-facebook-and-twitter/

>After Dallas Shootings, Police Arrest People for Criticizing Cops on Facebook and Twitter
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>>80838711
Your second sentence is literally hate speech according to the new law.

Just letting you know. Also filing another police report against you
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>>80834435
>promoting murder is wrong and evil!!111!!!!

promotes murder.
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>>80838828
Nah but whatever.
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>>80838533

So he basically faced criminal charges because judges felt it was inappropriate to say the truth? Wtf? What is happening to this world?
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>>80838252
Antisemitism, nationalism, and racism were already harbored by the populace. The German people conflated Judaism with Marxism and held them to be responsible for the civil war that they suffered only decades earlier. Nationalism, meanwhile, was a relatively new idea for Germans that appealed to the German sense that countries with similar cultures (like Austria) should also be under the same flag. Racism, meanwhile, wasn't an issue. The actual word was invented by Trotsky and hardly anyone knew it.

The German people adored Hitler and heavily supported his actions. The few that didn't were suppressed. Hitler wasn't some incredible demon that came out of nowhere. He was a man like you or I.
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>>80838552
my point exactly, did anyone got arrest before they chimped out?

The public announced they would do it, and not the first time, calling for violence against the police, state and german in general, yet they didn't get arrested for hate speech.
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>>80838252
>No, they first and foremost started with formenting Antisemitism, nationalism and racism in the public sphere, before they started unveiled threats which they then proceeded to carry out

Like how your current government and society does with your new "undesirables"? Except now instead of Antisemitism, nationalism and racism, they promote the EU, globalism and anti-racism, enforced on the streets of Germany by your politically-funded antifa groups. And of course, where antifa groups cannot reach the new "undesirables", your federal police kick in their doors for saying "the wrong things".

It's the same shit, anon.
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>>80834783
kek
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>>80830727
>2016
>Posting right wing opinions on jewbook.
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>>80838112
>Where does one draw the line?
The question is WHO draws the line. That's the problem in a nutshell.

Besides, you will be hard pressed to find anyone, even on /pol/, who would defend someone getting arrested for saying "kill all the niggers" if that meant people saying "kill all whites" would also be arrested.

Then there's people getting arrested for opposing political points like immigration. If you even state facts about immigrants committing crime you could be arrested. The use of ANY political tool to crush dissent is despicable in a democracy and mostly the valid, cited reason for disgust at these policies.
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>>80835163
>>80835551

check and mate
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Why can't germans stop being nazis one way or another?
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>>80830810
This. It's touch your toes time hans...stay strong lad.
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>>80839122
Maybe there is a kraut gene or something that we have.
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>>80830727
See you in gulag brüder
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>>80838964
You do know what to foment sth. means, right? It's not even my language but your reading comprehension skills are lacking.
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>>80835332
>implying globalism isnt inherently exploitative
>particularly to the browner parts of the world.

get fucked you raciss.
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>>80839071
>If you even state facts about immigrants committing crime you could be arrested.
>If you even state facts.

This should worry Europeans whose nations have such policies. If someone can be arrested for citing statistics in support of an "unpopular idea", then you are far from having the freedom of speech, you don't even have the freedom of truth.
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>all the german cucks itt
I didn't think it was so bad that even on pol it's full of them
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>>80838112
>>80839071
Forgot to add: criticism, even strongly worded as such, of any religion, political or social group should not and cannot be outlawed. It's the cornerstone of a functional democracy and free society.

Something fostering divisiveness is NOT an argument. Divisiveness is a necessity for a democratic society, the alternative is quite literally oppression.
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>>80830727
someone should screencap this for the next "eternal anglo" thread, to remind people who the real enemy is how dedicated to destroying europe the eternal kraut is.
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>ITT: A Nazi defends thought police while claiming to be antifa
KEK
I can't wait for WWIII, just imagine Nazis and Kikes sharing gas chambers. It'll be beautiful.
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>>80839247
All the Nazi government did was allow and condone what the German people truly wanted to do. You'd be a fool to say otherwise.
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>>80838970
God forbid anyone might want to foster the democratic collaboration of 20+ states which used to be at war all the time, or promote a culture of openness towards non-EU countries (here's the thing: globalization can't be stopped and is a reality), or promote a non-racist culture of not wanting to kill someone eventually because of the colour of their skin.

Phew, horrible and the same, really. I remember Nigel Farage being hung in the EU parliament as clear as yesterday, because he couldn't speak out against what was basically his employer.
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>>80839335
At least we will watch them die out in our lifetime, feels good.
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>>80838112
Actual calls to violence or murder can be illegal.
>We should go out and shoot person X tomorrow
>We must put all Y in gas chambers

Saying things that hurt people's feelings, or "endanger public safety" due to hurting peoples feelings shouldn't, because its vague bullshit that can be used to shut down any form of speech. Especially when someone doesn't like a statement it should be protected by free speech.
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>>80839440
#NotAll
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>>80839143
well, you have experience with this. Britain is persecuting more people for social media comments than any other state.
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>>80839244
>YFW THE BUNDESFLAGGE BECOMES A RARE FLAG

ALL DEUTSCHE /pol/ POSTERS GET SENT TO RE-MERKELIZATION CAMPS

MAYBE BRING BACK THE WINDMILL OF PEACE
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>>80836091
in germany? absolutely. But that was true even before this shenanigans. Germany has been shit for years. decades even.
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>>80833341
Reported to french police, frog
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>>80839498
It really does, what a time to be alive.
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>>80830727
What the fuck is the 'Ministry of Truth'?

I think my truths are different from the official line. Fuck this shit.
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>>80839314
>freedom of truth
That.. Is brilliant. That could be a legit campaign piece, something to rally opposition behind. Fuck with the narrative of the left fascists.

Stating facts and opinions reasonably resulting from these should be protected and cannot be deemed hate-speech.
The EU could score enough points with the public sentiment to make up an easy 50% of the loss they've incurred so far by passing something like this.
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>>80839596
I think the best part will be when the cucks realize what they did and muslims get really violent.

Can't wait desu, the eternal kraut can't die soon enough.
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>>80836104
>implying brexit was bad

free from the yolk of unelected bureaucrats oh nos!
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>>80839603
>Ministry of Truth
read 1984
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>>80832191
No one can prove that the hololo actually did happen. Fuck off back to an arabic country, Germany is not the place for you.
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>>80839706
>I think the best part will be when the cucks realize what they did and muslims get really violent
To be honest this also applies to you
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>>80836199
kek
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>>80837885
>You were given an opportunity for true freedom of speech, paid for with the blood of many people from around the world, and you ungrateful fucking faggots are throwing it away.
Those laws have been established back when the country was founded, it didn't happen recently.

>>80838252
>No, they first and foremost started with formenting Antisemitism, nationalism and racism in the public sphere, before they started unveiled threats which they then proceeded to carry out. Ever heard of "Der Stürmer"?
Anti-semitism and racism has been around in the whole society, ever read any philosopher from 18xx to the early 19xx? "foment" is a propaganda term also used in the DDR to shut down people speaking up against the socialist orders. Read the DDR constitution, it has many parallels to our current hate speech laws.

https://sciencefiles.org/2015/12/30/hetze-renaissance-eines-ddr-begriffs/
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>>80839725
Well how's that going, with Farage and Boris being incompetent liars and spineless and all that?

Your course to the painful legal clusterfuck is accelerating with May.

Truly, the 23rd's a day of independence from Farage.
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>>80836438
kek
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>>80839498
>sweden
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>>80839782
We're slowly changing but I couldn't care less if blonde hair disappears forever.

Germany is winning the cuck race by far, it's amazing what they can do when they put their minds to it.
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>>80836605
>when police isnt looking

there are pictures of the cops driving through the crowds doing precisely dick all
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>>80840005
>I couldn't care less if blonde hair disappears forever.
And you tell others about how cucked they are ?
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>>80838606
>Federal REPUBLIC of Germany

I don't know if this is suppose to be frequent with you, but the You Es of Eh only had a two national referendum in the last century, and that was to start and end prohibition in 1920 and 1933 respectively.

Still, I'm fairly certain the same is mostly with you, in which you elect the Representative and they supposedly represent you.

Aren't there any right-wing groups you can elect that oppose immigration?
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>>80839706
Sweden is the canary in the coal mine of islamization though.

I'm already looking for ways to move to the US. There may be a dindu problem, but at least they have any form of freedom left and don't pay more than half of their income to the state.
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>>80840205
I don't have blonde hair and it's disgusting on women.

My dad has black hair and brown eyes, feels good man.
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>Revealing your power level on Facebook

Deserved it.
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>>80839493
>democratic
>a culture of openness
When you need politically-funded antifa "brownshirts" on the streets to harass, threaten and beat those into submission who have a different opinion from them and the state, need federal police to raid the homes of people who have committed no crime but to express an opinion that the state does not deem worthy, and need laws to punish people for not agreeing with the "consensus", you are neither democratic nor promoting a "culture of openness".

Justify your hatred of free speech with snark or whatever else you wish, but you are doing the same thing those nasty, evil Nazis did.

>Phew, horrible and the same, really. I remember Nigel Farage being hung in the EU parliament

I'm referring more to Germany, anon. But like I said, the Nazis did not start off using the gas chambers, it was an incremental process, much in a way your government is fomenting your society's disdain of its "undesirables". I can see from your opinions of what should be done with them, those who express an opinion contrary to the state's, that your government is doing a good job.
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>>80836952
kek average german nu-male
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>>80840386
Stop responding, he is clearly a troll
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>>80836348
>Who cares about islam, people need help. Germans give them Help.
Africa is a god damn shithole, which must be stabilized. If you let the people run away, only the stupid people remain there, and there will be a never ending refugee storm.
Africa needs smart people, who dont like war more than we need their smart people.
Africans would like to have parts of our culture (science, technik, our wealth) but dont get their shit up.
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