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What on Earth is MGTOW?
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What on Earth is MGTOW?
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>>80817926
the ultimate redpill
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>>80817926

Omega males realizing they will never get a mate so they stop trying.
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>>80818064
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They are the beautiful ones.
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>>80818188
Kill this meme before it lays eggs
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a coping mechanism for society's rejects
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>>80818128
>MGTOW
>beta+
>any single mom I want

I feel obligated to post this pic. someone release me from this hell
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>>80817926
Delusional 40 year old recently divorced men, edgy boys and fat virgins

They can swear off women or not, doesn't make any difference
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>>80818064
Good goy. Don't have kids, white women are evil.
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>>80817926

One possible endpoint of ego-shattering cognitive dissonance created by being a sex deprived male in our society
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>>80817926
More bread and circuses. Designed to further divide the family unit. Diametric to the current Feminism movement.

Cattle being cattle. Nothing more.
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>>80817926

Gay
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>>80818128

Nah. They achieved enlightenment.

Secular, non-religious men that live in metropolitan areas live in low quality female zones.

Modern sexually liberated may be good for fucking but they aren't good for much else on a personal level.

What's the point of an LTR or marriage?
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>>80817926
Biology denialists (out of protest)

think nuts, but on the opposite spectrum of feminism.

Results of our increasing victim culture, have sex just as often as feminists.
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>>80817926
a faggot
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>>80817926

Male Gaylords Talking Or Wingeing.
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>>80818449
yep, give most of them a red wig and some black lipstick, can't tell the difference.
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>>80817926
Radical Bachelorism.
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>>80817926
>What on Earth is MGTOW?

Men who think that society fucked up family structure and sex relations so much that they've concluded their best option is to completely avoid commitment and resource sharing with women.
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>>80818677
This is the right answer.
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>>80817926
Real life version of no ma'am from married with children
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>>80817926
A secret plot by the gays
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>>80818991
>If MGTOW really cared about family structure they would seek out and try to create traditional women.
Short of a revolution and civil war, this won't happen.

Non-backstabbing virgin western women are pretty rare.
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At it's best: No compromising on control of your own life, if a woman wants you she has to submit.

At it's worst (most of it): excuses for being a loser who never had the option to reproduce to begin with.
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>>80819195

Most accurate post yet, listen to this man
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>>80817926
probably comprised of men who were fucked over by the courts ala custody and support. men have 0 child rights
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>>80819351
Yeah, the original MGTOWs were men who had been fucked over by their wives and family courts.

It boils down to realizing the how the modern dating scene is and going from there. Play the game, abstain or do what you want.
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>>80817926
cucks
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>>80819516
This
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>>80819515
>rattlesnake bites yields poison instead of milk
>don't give up until the problem is fixed
>insanity wolf

;-; based insanity wolf and courage dog,
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>>80819516
You need to have a girlfriend in the first place to be a cuck
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>>80819515
>>80819768
Those are great options, but it comes down to the individual man.

Some still continue the good fight, others say fuck it.
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>>80817926
>What on Earth is MGTOW?

It's a natural reaction.

Hitler for example was a MGTOW.
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>>80817926
They're the ultimate level of beta. They're lower than your average cuck and the betas who marry single mothers. MGTOW is composed by the lowest of males.

You see so many of their followers here because /r9k/ and /v/ think this is some sort of shelter for their ruined boards. They'll call themselves "real men" and "redpilled" by doing nothing at all besides trying to look cool. They don't contribute to the white race by marrying and having children, and their biggest effort for their country is fighting on gamergate and other internet wars.

Don't be fooled, half the posts you see about taking arms and revolutions are made by them. Some sort of delusion led them to think pretending to be a man means you are one, but in reality they're still the basement dwelling scum they always were, but with another label for own greatness.

Remember, anyone really redpilled couldn't care less about games and whore women. Anyone white should find a decent wife, marry and have at least 3 children.
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the" I won't have kids because rabi, eh I mean reddit told me that I'm going to get ripped off on it. so I will now be an asshole to woman, fuck them, leave them and fuel degeneracy... so that other males will join me" cult. i would say its even worse then 3rd wave feminism or at least equal to it.
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>>80818128
>>80818528
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>>80817926
Lesbian feminism, but for men.
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>>80818449
>further unnecessary tension between the sexes

Cunt detected.
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>>80818677

Somewhat, but not only. Pic is MGTOW, too. Has nothing to do whether these guys are in a relationship or not.
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>>80817926
>What on Earth is MGTOW?

Workhorses leaving the plantation.
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>>80817926
Men trying to protect themselves from feminism onslaght.
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>>80820160
>Anyone white should find a decent wife, marry and have at least 3 children.
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>>80818310

Good goy.
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>>80818363
I disagree. Feminism screams and throws tantrums so that everyone changes to suit their retarded worldview. The opposite of that is probably the MRA(but at least they tackel problems that actually exist like unfair divorce courts and child custody laws). Mgtow is more of a " i dont want to get fucked over by some greedy bitch so id rather not risk it". Of course there exist loosers who use it as an excuse, like any other group.
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>>80820160
well said, too bad its coming from a literal nigger
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>>80817926
frustrated boys. Many are divorcees or were exploited by the womenz
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>>80817926

Ugly omega males trying to justify their sexual failure. It's not a coincidence that this gay little movement started on reddit and is promoted by many PUA scam artists
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>>80818991
>If MGTOW really cared about family structure they would seek out and try to create traditional women

Haha. Sure, buddy.
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>>80817926
This doesn't need to be a fucking ideology. Just find the right goddamn girl and you don't have to worry about this shit.

MGTOW is for idiots who never understood not to date bitches so they literally need someone to spell it out for them.
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>>80820517
Pure white Brazilians are rare and sadly I'm not one of them, but I'll still fight the niggers out.
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>>80820650
>Just find the right goddamn girl and you don't have to worry about this shit.

Bullshit. Marrying doesn't change any misandrist law. It helps misandrist laws.
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>>80820444
>>80820488

stop projecting your parents and your country failure onto others.
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>>80820160
>Anyone white should find a decent wife,
Yeah, because women are some sort oh human being and shit
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>>80820490
MGTOW gives in to feminism and tries to beat them at their own game
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I bet 80% of the fags who say muh aryan children/muh family don't even have kids themselves
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>>80817926
daily reminder if you are still paying for the vaginal jew in your life, make sure to spend it only AFTER you have had sex on a per lay basis and do not pay up front or in advance as women have been known to drop their end of the deal.

If you are aesthetic enough to fuck for free carry on, just be careful of the rape accusations by getting proof of consent and the STDs by using condoms always
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>>80820160
>lower than your average cuck and the betas who marry single mothers

Simply no.

Globalism and cultural Marxism need subservient weak men to do their part. Feminists need institutionalized subservient, weak willed men to exist as well. At least MGTOW bucks that trend, even though we think they're doing it incorrectly.
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>>80820870
>as women have been known to drop their end of the deal.

It drops from 4x per week to 1x per week.
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>>80820861
and do you have children to clearly not recommend it or?
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>>80817926
misogyny induced homosexuality. Makes sense the more you think about it. Down with Gynocracy
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>>80820752
You keep posting the average /r9k/ rant as if it proves your point, instead you're just vouching for ours. If anyone has something relevant to say about their experiences with women, it certainly isn't /r9k/.
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>>80820752
Misandrist laws only come into play with divorce, something that is inherently unnatural and shouldn't happen frequently in a healthy society anyways.

I'm not gonna lie, feminist horseshit really is starting to poison the minds of girls but this has nothing to do with women themselves unless were looking at them as individuals.

There are bitches. And there are bitches who aren't really bitches.
Choose the bitches that aren't really bitches and life will be good nigga. Otherwise, "MGTOW" comes into play but we honestly don't really need a whole sect or even a fucking term to describe what SHOULD be common sense.
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>>80820650
Any girl whos willing to sign a marriage contract saying she doesnt get shit from divorce, in case of cheating she just goes to fuck herself without one penny from me, and that children will be left with whatewer parent THEY chose.
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>>80818064
Fpbp
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DON'T REPRODUCE
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>>80820829
>playing the victim
Sickening. That's not being a man. That's not taking responsibility for your own actions and truly paving your own way.
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>>80820941
I'm mgtow bub
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>>80820965
>If anyone has something relevant to say about their experiences with women, it certainly isn't /r9k/.

I am not from /r9k/. I have enough experience with women. Only virgins, manginas and other filth defend women and think they are something special.
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>>80820981
>Misandrist laws only come into play with divorce

That's not true. Our society drowns in misandrist laws. Pic is only one example.
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MGTOW, at its most basic universal level, is all about promoting the man's individual liberty, and the curbing of anyone, or anything, that curtails his freedom.

MGTOW is NOT women hating. We just acknowledge female nature for what it is, and mindfully walk away. A man would only be considered MGTOW if he's independent of other individuals.
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>>80821088
Absolute scum.
Saving Europe was a big fucking mistake.
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>>80820490
Those are the people that marxism sucks up first. Its literally the first point in the plan.

Thats all this is. Just control. I actually find it interesting and we have had this conversation before Romania. You say the same thing, i say the same thing.

Its just odd.
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>>80821007

Judges throw out prenups without hesitation.
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>>80821077
I thought married and unmarried males could join your club, so I still can't tell if you have them or not.
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>>80821032

Why not?
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>>80821088
>Only virgins, manginas and other filth defend women and think they are something special.

right, because /b/ and /r9k/ are known for their love for woman. its the other way around buddy.
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>>80821161

I agree with your post except for "MGTOW is NOT women hating". It can be and there's nothing wrong with hating one's enemies.

But it can be.
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>>80817926

Its an excuse for beta males. That's it.
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>>80821088
>I am not from /r9k/

You'd fit there perfectly. I don't like most women and I had a hard time finding my wife, but I'm not scared of them like a cuck.

Your contribution to your country is basically throwing rants and complaining about evil women. You won't take any risks, like the coward you are.

Keep fighting your internet wars with your basement friends. I'm glad you won't reproduce.
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>>80821171
>Absolute scum.

Yes, that's how cunt defenders like in this thread look in real life.
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>>80817926
>What on Earth is MGTOW?
Jewish Cuck movement aimed at White Men to get them to drop out of society to speed up the destruction of Western Society. Just like with its sister movement Feminism, it is marketed under the guise of Self-Empowerment.
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>>80820112
>Hitler was mgtow


Sauce?
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>>80817926
No fair play, we go our own way ladies!
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>>80821293
>its the other way around buddy.

No, it's not. See pic >>80821088

That's how cunt defender and cucks look like. Defending your own enemy (women) is the most cuckish/fedora thing men can do.
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>>80821245
I'm the furthest thing from a feminist.
Feminism can go fuck off. But there really are things that men should and should not do.
MRA's for instance advocate for the right things but do it in totally wrong ways.
They act like bitches. Instead of taking charge and being the change they want to see in the world, they whine and complain until someone changes things for them.

Even if we win the battle, if we do it in such a way, we've already lost our way and what truly makes us human. Revolutions that are just handed to the people will always crumble.
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>>80821341

Oh look, more blame and shame. Good, that makes MGTOW stronger.
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>>80817926
Why would a man have a child and give up all of their rights. Just Say No.
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>>80817926
A bunch of weirdos who turned violent after getting rejected many times in their lives.
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>>80821310


Did you just say women are enemies LMAO

Looks like both genders swallowed the fucking jewish zionist kool aid .

White women hate white men
white men hate white men
many many many less white babies are made

Juden fucking wins again

sigh
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>>80820650
Every guy who married a girl thought she was the best wife and that shes a complete angel. Then after u knock her up and u have a couple of kids together she fucks your neighbour, tells the police u beat her, u get a criminal record, she takes all your money, the house, the kids, the car, the dog AND u have to keep paying the bitch a huge portion of you income because.... Reasons?. And because u have a criminal record and are probably known as a wifebeater, good luck finding a decent job. Fuck marrige, fuck entitled western wemen. Allmost makes me want to get conquered by islam so they can beat some sense into them
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>>80817926

The opposite of the man hating cucks ITT...

For me I went trough a bunch of tough relationships where I literally tried my best to be a good dude. Then I got fed up. The questions every man should ask himself are:

>Why shouldn't I fuck hookers?
>Why shouldn't I fuck girls 15, 16 and up (or whatever is the legal age in your country)?
>Why shouldn't I import some submissive thai or russian bitch who will suck on my toes as I'm watching tv?
>Why shouldn't I date more than one girl?
>Why shouldn't I hang out with my friends and enjoy life instead of catering to assholes with vaginas?

It's about stopping internalizing white knighting and swallowing the red pill by accepting that women will never be there as much for you as you will be for them, so you might as well do like them and put yourself and your own needs first. No marriage. No commitment. No kids. Just freedom.
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>>80821509
>MRA's for instance

MRAs are feminists. They are the opposite of MGTOWs.

>But there really are things that men should and should not do.

OK, please tell me for example what Indian men can do when they have been arrested because the cousin of their sister accused them.

Come on, tell me, tiger.
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>>80821555
>Did you just say women are enemies LMAO

Yes, they are, in every area.
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>>80821555
>many many many less white babies are made

That's because of women's rights. Abolish women's education, problem solved.
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>>80821555
>Juden fucking wins again

Has nothing to do with Jews, retard. Has something to do with women. Jews are the main victims of this.
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>>80820112

He literally killed himself with his girlfriend.
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You alphas shaming on MGTOW sure are alpha with all the femistm spreading... you sure know how to controll women.
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>>80817926
Why does my heart tell me MTGOW Is an alright idea but has/would be hijacked by jews into stopping white men to reproduce?
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>>80820444
Checked.
Also this.
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>>80821929
>hijacked by jews into stopping white men to reproduce

The opposite is true. MGTOW = less money for Jewish lawyers.
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>>80821468
It would be easy to argue that they aren't defending their women, and that those are merely common virtue signaling cucks.

You don't necessarily have to stick your neck out for a woman. For A westerner realizing its not the same as it used to be, that's a big difference from what you're taught. But taking care of the women in your life and defending them is courageous and alpha.
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>>80821555
Fuck off with the Jew posts. You do realize that's exactly how PoC think of us whites, right? Get out of that slave morality. Stop blaming others for the way society is. It's cyclical. Be the best man you can.
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>>80821929
>Why does my heart tell me MTGOW Is an alright idea but has/would be hijacked by jews into stopping white men to reproduce?

Because that's what feminists wants you to believe.
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>>80821971

Wyatt man, sucks. He blamed white men AND black men, and portrayed white women as victims.

Typical cuck.
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>>80821007
Underaged children dont get to chose what parent they stat with. Mommy will cry her crocodile tears in front of a judge and jury an they'll say" awww, we cant separate a mother from her child" and poof, u only get to spend time with him 1 day of the year bi-yearly( slight exageration but u get the point)
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>>80822013
>But taking care of the women in your life

That's OK, defending women is cuckery.
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>>80822004
Why do you not want to spend your money on me?
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>>80817926
Just some shit that some guys do that never needed a name or combination of letters to specifically describe it.
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>>80822013
>But taking care of the women in your life and defending them is courageous and alpha.
>ImWithHer
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>>80817926

The picture sums up what MGTOW guys would say about it pretty well, but doesn't tell you what it really is.

What it really is is a bunch of guys who used to think they deserved sex and love just for being "nice", but grew so tired of failing with women that they stopped trying. Instead of recognising that they simply don't have anything of value to offer women (aside from money, safety, and children) and seeking to improve themselves, they claim to have sworn off relationships (many seem to have actually convinced themselves this is true), because it's easier for them to blame all women than take responsibility themselves.
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>>80819195

underrated post

MGTOW is whatever you make of it really.
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>>80817926
Fools that perpetuate white genocide and are too stupid to realize it.
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>>80822187
He for she is for pure alphas everybody should support Emma Watsons cause.
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>>80822222
HOLY SHIT THREAD DERAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>80822242
>white genocide

No such thing. White suicide by women is the reality.
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>>80817926
The herbivore male gone political.
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>>80822102
>defeat the forces against the white man by... never breeding

huh, good plan
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>>80822222
>Instead of recognising that they simply don't have anything of value to offer women (aside from money, safety, and children) and seeking to improve themselves

Replacementcuck detected.
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>>80822157
>stepmom literally said I should find a girl to spend my money on
The KEK stops here. I'm not raising anybody else's son and I'm not wasting my money feeding a 3d slut. Call me back when I can get a cute 2d gf. I'll pepper her with the finest spunk. She can watch me play video games all day. I'm not raising a kid in this society anyway. Too many liberals and atheists with no morals.
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>>80822222
Yes because white genocide is clearly not the fault of "alphas" white knighting for some pussy causing ANY form of feminism in the first place.
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>>80822326
If white men would still be proud of their masculinity women would not have to look for it elsewhere.
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>>80822379

A very good plan. It's already working. Women have less and less leverage and reputation.

And feminist societies (white or not) are not worth saving anyway. FIRST we disenfranchise women THEN we can talk about breeding again.
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>>80822486
>women would not have to look for it elsewhere.

Women always look elsewhere. It's their nature.
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>>80818290
One of my biggest fears in life is ending up like you. I am 20 right now and its starting to get too real.
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>>80817926
Maximum Gross Takeoff Weight
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>>80820870
>as women have been known to drop their end of the deal.

If you're in a committed relationship, you don't ask your girlfriend/wife for sex, you just take it. If you ask she can say no. If you just plant a kiss on her lips, pick her up and carry her to the bedroom, lay her on the bed, and just take her, then she'll fuck whenever the Hell you damn well want. Pull that shit every time and she'll be in the mood.

If she isn't a feminist/sjw cunt (Why would you be with one of these anyway?), she'll be into your forceful and dominant approach and respect you more as a man. At their core, (Normal) women want their chosen mate to just lovingly rape the shit out of them in exchange for protection.
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You can be mgtow and have a gf or a wife.
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>>80817926
Military Grade TOW.

It's what's hot for preppers nowadays. Liberals say your AR-15 can't beat the government's tanks? Well, they're right. That's what your MGTOW is for.
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>>80822004

Just don't sign the prenup
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>>80822102
I didn't think of it that way. Of course, my stupid white privileged brain couldn't see it from that point of view, but thanks.
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MGTOW is a refuge for a man's sexual failure.
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>>80822458

Fucking this.
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>>80822102
>portraying women as weak and inferior is being a cuck
Too much vodka, Gregori?
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>>80821413

The biography his childhood friend August Kubiczek. Hitler was pretty much a virgin until his late 20's, despite being a good-looking guy.
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>>80822103
Sucks to be you.
In Russian they do chose.
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>>80822616
That's the point. You recognize the reality of your situation and do want you want.
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>>80822392
What the fuck is a "replacementcuck"?
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>>80818214
underrated
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>>80822141
>Autiste in chief doesn't understand that not defending the women in your life is omega-tier
>Doesn't know women need to be led
>Doesn't realize its always been this way.

>>80822187
No way, I'm team Cruzmissile bro!

The priesthood rises
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>>80822620
>Military Grade TOW.

There's a non-military grade TOW?
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>>80822735

Yes, portraying your own enemy (women) as someone you need to protect, and portraying the perpetrator (women) as the victim is cuckoldry and feminism, indeed.
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>>80822222
>(aside from money, safety, and children)

these people are usually broke neets though
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>>80822581
haha good luck kid you'll need it
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>>80817926
ex pussywhip club
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>>80822744
>Hitler was pretty much a virgin

Hitler was a MGTOW.
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>>80822905
>Doesn't know women need to be led

Sure thing, Captain Anon.

>Doesn't realize its always been this way.

No, it hasn't. You're applying pre-industrial rules to our current situation.
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>>80822925
Do women, and I mean the non-bashit crazy feminist one, even know the full extent of harm via their voting patterns?
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>>80822916
The shit they sell Syrian rebels taht can't even penetrate your t0nks, uncle pootie.
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>>80823052
Some do, most don't.
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>>80823150
How do we solve this?
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>>80821736
>>80821833
>>80822023


You guys dont seem to understand that that putting white men and women at each others throat is litteraly the end game of everyone who wants to hurt the white race. Jews niggers globalists whatever and whoever .. this is what they want. And you guys fell straight into it. The funny thing is you claim to be morally superior exactly like fucking feminists you hate so much. They buy into feminist kool aid and act like they discovered gold when that shit is exactly what enemy wants.
Open your eyes man my girlfriend is 18 and was a virgin when we meet. Didnt give it up for months. Comes from a conservative wealthy family.

Now is that the majority of girls? hell no . But these types exist and there not that rare ethier. Alot of her friends are still virgins and there very pretty shy girls. A few are now at 18-19 getting there first boyfriends. Stop falling right into the trap ffs or your just shills
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How did the jews convince men to allow women to vote?

I know they did just not the specifics
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>>80820762
>divorcetugal

hahah, they cant do anything right.
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Why would a wealthy man ever marry?
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>>80823052

Women are usually completely unaware of any harm caused by women. Even when everything will collapse they will still blame men.

Unfortunately there are a lot of cucks ITT who think that women are worth saving or that women's whining should be taken seriously.
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>>80822976
Hitler got syphilis. I want see you with this sti in those times where they treated people with radium.
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>>80823212
>is litteraly the end game

No, men helping women is the end game. That's exactly what happens at the end of empires. Men not helping women (aside from their own) is what makes a society stronger.
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>>80817926
Such fucking bullshit, while it is true that there are some women out there that are completely corrupted there are obvious outliers. Literally feminism for men and if you fall for this shit you need to fucking kill yourself immediately because you're a waste of space if you fall for kike subversion tactics..
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>>80822222
>The picture sums up what MGTOW guys would say about it pretty well, but doesn't tell you what it really is.
>What it really is is a bunch of guys who used to think they deserved sex and love just for being "nice", but grew so tired of failing with women that they stopped trying. Instead of recognising that they simply don't have anything of value to offer women (aside from money, safety, and children) and seeking to improve themselves, they claim to have sworn off relationships (many seem to have actually convinced themselves this is true), because it's easier for them to blame all women than take responsibility themselves.

This is the ultimate cuckery. Some men decide they wont put up with the bullshit and decide that chivalry and being the thankful slave is not for them and they're putting themselves first, and then some feminist say "bet you can't get laid!" and subsequently some white knight faggots ofc then immediately has to spring into action and defend said status quo...

Putting yourself first and having some self-respect does not make you a kissless virgin. But keep perpetuating that myth, maybe some blue haired feminist land whale someday will touch your penis. You are being a good boy.
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Even the most hardcore feminist has a "biker" as boyfriend they all lie in what want out of a men.
The though pattern is every man should be understanding, feels obsessed, nice, respectful, low in masculinity and clean.. all men with the exception of the one they finally choose.
They think the "ideal men" they imagine is perfect for OTHER women (but not herself) but the problem is every women thinks that.
Thats why you almost always get bullshit answers when you ask a women on dating tips or what she wants in a men.
Someone cynical would classify the whole 3rd wave feminism movement as one gigantic shittest for men.
If you realize this there is no reason to hate women or go "mgtwo"... btw women still always gave you a clue "be yourself"..no i am not kidding.
When a women says "be yourself" they subconsciously mean "dont be what i claim to want but be your natural masculine men".. even if women would never admit that or even realize it.
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>>80823373
show us your proud aryan family anon
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>>80823046
Biology hasn't changed as a result of industrialization. There have been mny negative effects of it, but these are mostly psychological.

Ali it takes now is a few more hours of knowledge, research, deliberation and some practice with your game. This is not the worst period in human history.

Don't let feminism, globalism and bullshit of that nature prevent you from competing comrade. Don't let it ruin your life.
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>>80823236
>How did the jews convince men to allow women to vote?

Had nothing to do with Jews. It's more likely that it had to do with cunt manure.
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>>80823210
Saving the saveable and leaving the rest.
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>>80817926
Gggg
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Dhshdnsksk
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>>80818310
>women are evil

This one is true.
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>>80823427
That has nothing to do with what I said retard.
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>>80823428
>Don't let feminism, globalism and bullshit of that nature prevent you from competing comrade. Don't let it ruin your life.

Exactly. Go MGTOW!
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>>80817926
Crazy cat ladyism for men.
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>>80818991
Why? Modern divorce law means a woman can have kids with you, decide she tired of your ads, kick you to the curb, take half your shit and demand half your income just because.

And every time I thought about settling down, I watched another one of my married friends have their marriage implode because while he was working, his wife got bored and fucked some guy.

After seeing it happen to EVERY SINGLE ONE of my married friends, I decided it wasn't for me. He'll, the last girl was with started talking about quitting her job and letting me take care of her after six months of dating. She tried to play it off as joking, but she kept bringing it up.

No thank you.
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Maximum gross take off weight
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>>80821659
You forgot the part where the husband cheats on his pregnant wife.
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>>80823423
They don't know what they want. Because logic and feels are two different things. When they awnser your question, it's logic. But when they go out and meet someone it's feels.
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>>80823534
I don't use this word often (thankfully) but "shill" fits you nicely you fucking faggot. Don't promote this society killing shit.
>39 posts by this id
Little obsessive there are we Shlomo?
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>>80823509
oy vey no children better man up goy
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>>80823565
>And every time I thought about settling down, I watched another one of my married friends have their marriage implode because while he was working, his wife got bored and fucked some guy.
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>>80823638
>Don't promote this society killing shit.

Still don't get it, eh? What YOU are doing is killing the society and makes Jewish family lawyers happy. You're the fucking shill, you're the deluded anon that is meant by this pic >>80820488
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>>80823720
How the fuck is getting a woman and having kids killing society? Kill yourself. If you want to be a fucking baby about marriage don't get one idiot.
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>>80817926
It's when a man puts way too much emphasis on women and relationships. So when he is inevitably dumped by a woman for being a weakling and just completely crumbles, again because he is emotionally weak, he becomes like the Uchiha, cold and uncaring as he vows to never have anything to do with women again. But this is just a mask to hide his emotional fragility and strong desire for a woman who will be his mommy.
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>>80819911
How come numales are cucks while never having a gf in the first place?
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>>80823806
>How the fuck is getting a woman and having kids killing society?

Because you're empowering misandry. If all men went MGTOW for 1 year, the whole feminist system would collapse. Your suggestion is keeping the status quo.

MGTOW is attacking the status quo by workhorses refusing to work for their slave masters.
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>>80823212
It's not a trap I've fallen into. I've dated and screwed around enough to know: 90% of women have fallen for all the most decadent memes. I don't hate women- I just don't want to marry a fickle little idiot who could randomly decide to take me to the cleaners one day. Shit, even just through dating, after breaking up with one girl (because she cheated on me), she got so pissed that she called the cops and had me arrested in front of one of my classes back when I was a college lad. I shudder to think of the damage a wife could do.
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>>80817926
So in a nutshell it's feminist cancer, but's a male version of feminist cancer. Just as the irrational female feminists attempt to defy their hardcoded biological role, MGTOW supporters do as well.
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>>80823939
>empowering misandry
All of the things that OP had in his pic is what men are SUPPOSED to do, you're the provider and guardian. Like >>80823831
said this is just more proof that MGTOW appeals to wimpy little boys.
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>>80818290
>dinner smiles.jpeg
Is that you anon?
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>>80821971
>tfw my wife is white but models herself after the traditional Japanese stay at home moms in her animus.
>spends 1-2 hours every night making my lunch look appealing and making our daughters cute.
>keep the house and laundry clean.
>stays fit by walking our dogs, yoga and lifts.
>has crafty hobbies she keeps practicing to teach our daughter when she's older.

feels good man, it's hard to find a good girl and she's not perfect. but neither am i, we fight sometimes but we know and embrace our gender roles and it's what makes our relationship work.

inb4 she's fucking the mailman while you're at work.
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>>80820348
Does Bangalore accuse men of being molesters a lot or something? Really strange account of events there.
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>>80823212
Dude you can't be this blind.
You had luck, you and your girl and me and my girl were luck.
We are almost alone.
I know 13 y.o. girls who have fucked 20-30 guys. Those girls in their 20's will be completely useless mentally and physicaly due to the hormones they are taking so young.

The country laws protect these mental ill girls crazyness and makes them irresponsible of their acts. Their teachers will program them to destroy the manliness. The society will program them to be the enemies of the traditional family.
And when they will reach their 30's they will be aborting machines, horrible coworkers, stupid girlfriends and worse wifes.

Wake up boy. Before you have to face one of this monsters the social engeneering programmed for you.
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>>80823831
>It's when a man puts way too much emphasis on women and relationships. So when he is inevitably dumped by a woman for being a weakling and just completely crumbles, again because he is emotionally weak, he becomes like the Uchiha, cold and uncaring as he vows to never have anything to do with women again. But this is just a mask to hide his emotional fragility and strong desire for a woman who will be his mommy.

Kek. Just look at you shaming other men like some woman. One post and you can already tell who's wearing the pants in your relationship.

"N-n-no hun. I hate big tits. I would never have mindless sex with a 18 year old who will suck my dick because I own my own house. Golly gee, some men are just no gosh darn good! Is I good, massa?"
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>>80817926

I respect the ideology in theory, but in practice it's just lonely autist bronies
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>>80824102
>MGTOW appeals to wimpy little boys.

1. Except it doesn't.
2. God, I love to see non-wimpy big boys get divorce raped. It really makes my day. Seriously. Those tough guys who had it all figured out, now being demoted to a wallet. it's so beautiful to think that they weren't attracted by MGTOW when they should have been. I am really happy that many of the cunt defenders in this thread will be harmed by women one way or the other.
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>>80824227
>mailman
nope anon, it tyreegus the trash guy.
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>>80823399
>Some men decide they wont put up with the bullshit and decide that chivalry and being the thankful slave is not for them and they're putting themselves first and then some feminist say "bet you can't get laid!"

I know there are plenty of shitty women out there, but there are plenty of good ones too - ones that don't require anything like slavery. Writing off literally all women seems like an extreme measure - one I can only explain if the man in question is so worthless that literally no women want him, or if he doesn't have the wit or fortitude to seek out decent women. It's an admission of defeat.

>Putting yourself first and having some self-respect does not make you a kissless virgin.

But it sure helps. Having self-respect is all well and good (vital, in my opinion), but swearing off relationships because they require you to do stuff is fucking retarded. Relationships require compromise for both parties - if it's not mutually beneficial you're doing it wrong.

>But keep perpetuating that myth, maybe some blue haired feminist land whale someday will touch your penis. You are being a good boy.

I'm actually happily married, but thanks I suppose.
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>>80824288
>>80823212

The Spanish have the most draconian feminist laws I have ever seen. I would probably be a virgin out of fear of a woman accusing me of hitting her.
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>>80824227
>tfw my wife is white but models herself after the traditional Japanese stay at home moms in her animus.
>tfw when i dry fap to deluded fantasies of an actual life that invented on /pol/
>twf when tears are the best lubricant

Kek.
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>>80824413
>Relationships require compromise for both parties - if it's not mutually beneficial you're doing it wrong.

There is no compromise for a woman except maybe putting on makeup.
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>>80824355
>43 posts by this ID
my fucking sides, for someone who claims to be redpilled on women, you seem easily assblasted by whining about every counter post in this thread
some bydlo should straighten you up
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>>80822844
When you become a provider to a singlemom but she still fucks on the side
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>>80824288
I've said this before and I'll say it again: Don't get fucking married if you don't feel she's right and don't think with your dick about it. All of what you said can be easily avoided by doing what I said previously.
>>80824355
Except it does you piece of shit. There's a reason why men are taller and stronger compared to women because mother nature, God, whoever the fuck created us like this so we could protect women and children. How does it feel knowing you're basically a feminist for guys?
>>80824316
>looking at other girls like that
Obviously you have no constraint at all you fucking beta you should ju-
>flag
Oh right, cuck.
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>>80824413
>Writing off literally all women seems like an extreme measure

That's NOT what it's about. That's what feminists wants you to think it is. I still have relationships but they're 100% on my terms. If I don't get the space to live my life as I please then I will fuck hookers, barely legal girls or imported women. Just like your pretend wife would if you weren't a castrated faggot who will jump on her command.
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>>80822222
Yes Anon. Take responsibility for themselves.
Next time a woman cheats on the man, HE need to take responsiibility for it. When she demands your attention 24/7 and ridicules u for wanting to go out with friends 1 night a week HE should try to do better, when she is being an unsuferable cunt HE needs to be understanding.

U are the ultimate cucklord. U give give women EVERYTHING u have material and emotional, and when they demand even more u blame yourself. Go find yourself a wife to suck her toes while she suck the life out of u if thats what u think a man should do.

Also, nothing to offer but money,security and children??? Because those 3 are totally worthless,right?
" Omg he gave me all the money i need, a safe home in a good neighbourhood and a kid. BUT ITS STILL NOT ENOUGH"

*sigh* i just dont understand why your willing to be a slave for someone who dosent even apreciate it.
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>>80824702
How does it feel to know that your "alpha" insticts caused feminism in the first place?
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>>80822698
Christfuck mgtow-bro. Go on a diet before representing our cause.
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>>80823534

Dropping monogamy is a big part of what is killing western civilization. Pump and dump is even worse than MRA, because you're ruining potentially good women. They turn to feminism and bullshit of that nature even more when there isn't a strong, capable man in their life leading them and being their for them.

I used to pump and dump when I was in school, then I had my angry, bitter phase like you're going through. That bitter phase can unironically last for life if you don't accept the realities of your circumstance and strive for something higher in life. I am not going to piss it away because half the species isn't angelic and perfect.

I'm telling you man, this can be an important phase, leading to a necessary transition, or you're going to live a bitter, regretful life. Its going to turn your soul black. Apply yourself to learn abut women's nature and use it to your advantage, not against them by screwing them and hating them for being women. .
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>>80824680
Thanks man.
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>>80824702
>re's a reason why men are taller and stronger compared to women because mother nature, God, whoever the fuck created us like this so we could protect women and children.

That was before the government. Now, with the government, women do everything to harm and hinder men. And they do it often and they love it.
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>>80822004
You're a jew trying to make /pol/ seem more anti-semitic than it really is. /pol/ is run by jews.
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>>80817926
Sounds like nu-males.
Control your girl or find a new one.
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>>80824702
>Oh right, cuck.
We don't sleep on couches, pay the bill when we take a woman to dinner, or get half our shit taken in a divorce. You do, cuck.
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>i like women too much to actually marry one....men were meant to be free agents....marriage is an ancient sex trading scheme so fathers could make a few shekels by selling their daughter/s.
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>>80824793
It was bound to happen eventually because at a primal level all men are like that. I couldn't care less about what kike mind-slaves think.
>>80824754
>>80824779
>>80825000
There you go, right there I can tell you've never had an actual women ever but you two live in 3rd world shitholes with garbage girls so obviously you don't know what it's like to have a functioning relationship. Especially you Sweden you walking failure.
>>80824906
>ALL women
Are you ignoring what I'm saying?
>And they do it often and they love it.
No they don't, you're just fearmongering know and you know it. Who taught you that shill tactic?
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>>80818429
Best summary I have ever heard.

The dilima that so many men face nowdays is that the "liberated woman" is much more sexually available but more emotionally detached.

In metropolitan areas women have rejected many of societies traditional roles for them, but still very much expect men to fulfill the same traditional roles that they rejected.

This means that while sex is easier to come by, a meaningful relationship is not.

The woman essentially is allowed to have as much sex as she wants, thus males must provide as many benifits to the female as possible in exchange for the woman remaining in an exclusive relationship with him.

Thus, instead of a healthy relationship in which both partners work mutually to keep eachother emotionally satisfied it turns into a treadmill like scenario where the male must constantly strive to convince the female not to "put herself back on the market."

In other words the relationship is not about mutual respect and pair bonded cohesiveness, it is about fear of rejection, lonliness, and being replaced.

She can go to any club or bar at any time and find a male willing to step into the role of "make her happy or she leaves" but he does not have nearly so many options, or, atleast that is, he does not believe that he does.

Ran into it with my last GF. She had this idea that she could do whatever she wanted whenever she wanted and it was my job to do all of the work in the relationship to convince her not to.

Faults of hers are not faults, its just the males problem for not "accepting her for how she is."

His faults? Better change himself to conform to her will or she will leave.

money, if she made it its hers and she can do whatever she wants with it. If he makes it then he better spend a sizeable amount of it to hold her attention otherwise he will face witholding of affection, cutting criticism, abandonment, and replacement.
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>>80825082
Great, don't add to the gene pool because from what I can tell from this post you'd be nothing but a detriment. We won't miss you faggot.
>one girl = all girls
>generalizing this hard
Retard logic but I didn't expect anything more from you.
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Any one against MGTOW is either a woman or a thirsty beta who puts pussy on a pedestal. FACT
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>>80822141
You must be KGB.
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>>80824680
haha so a guy takes in a single mom and her lil bastard and then the whore fucks other guys on the side? It's a hell of a lot easier to boot a bitch with somebody else's bastard back out on the street.

Anybody here ever date a single mom? I'm dating one now and I own her and make sure she knows it. She can be discarded at any time and she feels lucky to have my attention. I don't live with her or spend any money on her really. Also I bet some of you losers could access some pussy that would normally be out of your league just by dipping into the single mom territory.
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>>80823587
My apologies. I'll adress it now.

When that happens, the woman file divorce and gets half his stuff. In this case he obviously deserves it. But women have the option to be unfaithful and still come out on top and screw the guy. Cause when men do it its cheating( which is true) when women do it its expresing their sexuality because their husband wasnt satisfing them, and to a lot of people that is a legit excuse.
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>>80825318
Any one who supports MGTOW is a lonely imaginative beta faggot who has an inferiority complex and denies his life meaning. FACT
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>>80817926
MGTOW is generally misunderstood which is why I post in these threads.

In it's most general form it is a personal philosophy which rejects societal expectations on men, typically replaced with the return to male sovereignty.

So key things to note, this is a personal philosophy that you decide to adopt yourself, and MGTOW is the label we give to men who have adopted that philosophy, it is not a movement as many suggest. Movements look to create social change and this is antithetical to MGTOW, men who go their own way look to change their own behaviour and not that of others, in order to benefit themselves.

It's important that it's understood that this is an explicit rejection of societal expectations, that is to say peers expect men to get married and settle down, buy a home and raise a family, and that this must be done often at their own expense and under uniquely unfair risk. The method of societies control over men is by shaming such men who do not fall in line and so MGTOW becomes about rejecting the shaming tactics. So I'll take this opportunity to get out in front of all this "pussy beta male" rhetoric and say, we don't care and it won't work, so it's pointless trying.
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I'm not a fedora weirdo. I've gotten tons of poon but I've spent the last year avoiding women. I just hate them so much. The idea of what they have become. The fact that I have to become a much douchier version of myself to impress them. They try to fuck your friends after breakups. They side against our race and families in all public disputes. Their superficiality sickens me. I don't know how much longer this will go on. Eventually I will fake it and get a wife that i will pretend to love. But I will hate her. Always.
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>>80822613
>There is no way this could backfire at all.
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>>80825058
>There you go, right there I can tell you've never had an actual women ever but you two live in 3rd world shitholes with garbage girls so obviously you don't know what it's like to have a functioning relationship. Especially you Sweden you walking failure.

Lel. You're then one with hordes of nig nogs rioting on the streets. You're the one with a nig nog president. You're the one with a soon to be female president. You're the one with scientists and entertainers openly crying in tv because they crossed the feminists. You're the one with mattress girl on your campuses and guys getting thrown out left and right without due process. You're the one with Gamergate.

You're way worse off than we are and you are so happy to willfully follow along the path of your doom while you kill yourself working 50-60 hour weeks for your masters.
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>>80825428
>getting laid is the only meaning to life

I get so sick of you faggot teenagers on here trying to sound profound.
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>>80825377
You sound real tough. I'll make sure not to talk to you or your wife's son again.
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>>80821397
After I drop out of society... it's not my fucking problem anymore.
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>>80825318
/thread
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>>80823560
I by "crazy cat lady for men" you mean regularly getting yer dick wet while not getting tied down, then, yes.

See, the feminists have convinced young women they can play the field in their twenties then settle down in their thirties. Except the mid to late thirty crowd have suddenly discovered the thirty and forty year old successful men they want.time settle down with are getting the mid to late twenty year old girls who aren't ready to settle down and are still riding the dick carousel. The young girls are likely from broken homes and have daddy issues and kind of like the guy with a new car, his own place and some grey in the hair, as long as he's in shape.

To you twenty something year old guys who can't get any ass because the girls your agenda are fucking Chads and older guys, hang in there. Stay or get in shape and concentrate on making money. When you hit your thirties and have a decent job and look halfway decent, the young pussy will practically fall into your lap.

And go outside and talk to people during this dead period in your life. Develop some people skills. Talk to girls as if you have no chance at all and develop some conversational skills. And keep beating off. It builds mad stamina when you finally do start getting pussy on the regular.
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>>80825058
>ALL women

Who mentioned ALL women?
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>>80817926
A meme. Also a reverse feminism. Same retarded shit. Speakers begin with sensible argument about why feminism is shit, but then go the same way as feminazies.

Also instead of fixing the matrimonial laws (parenting, divorce, abortion), starting with petitions, they only do blabbering on internets.
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>>80825202
I never said I embraced the idea OP was asking about, im just stating that cultural progression has to a certain extent left men in a position of weakness when it comes to modern ideals.
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I've fucked over 30 hot sluts and lived with a few of them for a couple years. I feel no better or superior to a forever virgin. I still hate women. Good pussy isn't worth all of the bullshit.
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>>80817926
I am MGTOW
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>>80825506
He's right tho.
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>It's the current year
How can I know that the woman/women I will meet from now on will stay true and value tradition over feministic insanity?

With such high divorce rates and the many, MANY stories of women intentionally fucking the male/breadwinner over for their money and/or cucking/cheating on them, what the fuck am I supposed to do to prevent my life from being ruined forever?
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>>80824754
>I still have relationships but they're 100% on my terms
That's totally reasonable, and that's exactly what I do too. It appears our terms differ though.

>If I don't get the space to live my life as I please then I will fuck hookers, barely legal girls or imported women
How do you expect women to treat you well in a relationship if you don't treat them well too? I'm not advocating being a slave, but there's an alternative to being a shitty person in response to shitty people - finding a decent woman instead and being decent right back. It feels good man.

>Just like your pretend wife would if you weren't a castrated faggot who will jump on her command.
This shit isn't backing your points up at all. To me it just makes you sound like a bitter loser. If you want people to stop thinking MGTOW are just failures, maybe you should try not to appear to be exactly that.
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>>80825058
>No they don't, you're just fearmongering know and you know it.

I don't fearmonger shit.

50% of marriages end in divorce.
98% of alimony is paid by men.
Prenups are torn apart.
Women get rid of men with the snap of a finger, see >>80824355

You see that's the difference between us. I base my opinion on experience, facts and stats. You base your opinion on some bullshit like "muscles" and "men are providers".

>Who taught you that shill tactic?

You're the divorce lawyer shill.
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>>80825684
>I by "crazy cat lady for men" you mean regularly getting yer dick wet while not getting tied down, then, yes.
>See, the feminists have convinced young women they can play the field in their twenties then settle down in their thirties. Except the mid to late thirty crowd have suddenly discovered the thirty and forty year old successful men they want.time settle down with are getting the mid to late twenty year old girls who aren't ready to settle down and are still riding the dick carousel. The young girls are likely from broken homes and have daddy issues and kind of like the guy with a new car, his own place and some grey in the hair, as long as he's in shape.
>To you twenty something year old guys who can't get any ass because the girls your agenda are fucking Chads and older guys, hang in there. Stay or get in shape and concentrate on making money. When you hit your thirties and have a decent job and look halfway decent, the young pussy will practically fall into your lap.
>And go outside and talk to people during this dead period in your life. Develop some people skills. Talk to girls as if you have no chance at all and develop some conversational skills. And keep beating off. It builds mad stamina when you finally do start getting pussy on the regular.

... or stop being a faggot and get yourself a hooker or a girl younger than you and fuck right away instead of waiting 10, 15 years like this sucker. Go your own way.
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>>80825512
Sweden, really? You're not exactly Norway right now.
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I told my wife if she cheated on my I'd eat her.

>Stuff is going pretty good.
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>>80825318

This.
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>>80825512
You're the one with hordes of Muslims rioting on the streets. You're the one destroying your culture and replacing it with Islam. You're the one that has young Sweden men becoming prostitutes more than women. You're the one giving 8.1 billion to your migration board. You're the one that had Miss Africa take place in your capital.

End yourself.
>>80825564
I didn't say get laid I said get children dumbass.
>>80825719
You, you're the one who keeps blabbering on about the horrors of marriage and that all women are out for your blood.
>>80825749
My first post ITT was about how yes some women are bad and some are good, your post makes it out to be that all women are bad.
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>>80817926
This thread again.
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>>80825512
>Thinks 50-60 hours a week is excessive.

I wish I lived in Europe sometimes. I think my laziness and taste for high culture would have been far better suited there.

You Svens should start fighting back though. The most ancient, beautiful kingdom in Scandinavia must not be browned unless it is by Vikings importing Latinas or something non-shameful. And you can't fight back if you go cat lady. You must defend your home and your people.
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>>80825930
THEN DON'T GET MARRIED?????? I'm just repeating myself at this point.
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>>80825983
are you German?
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>>80822222
I completely disagree with your post but

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>>80818326
Cognitive dissonance of what 2 or more conflicting ideas?

>>80818429
A good summary. It's worth questioning what caused MGTOW, because to be sure MGTOW is reactionary to changing times. Generally speaking the bad deal men are expected to take and just simply put up with (or otherwise they're shamed for not being "real men") things like alimony and unfair family courts are huge factors for sure.

But the death of traditional roles started with the female role first, feminism "liberated" women out of marriages but into work, they liberated them out of meaningful relationships into meaningless hookups. This means the top 20% of men who have good genes and who women rate" average or above" get to slam a lot of pussy where as the rest of the males struggle to find someone and when they do find a woman she holds all the cards and the relationship becomes about "I can leave any time, so put up with my shit".

I've always been anti-marriage and anti-children even long before I was a MGTOW, but after a lot of thought it has occured to me that even LTRs are pointless unless the end goal is children, pair bonding and the chemical response in your brain that makes it feel so good only lasts 3 years tops, and past that unless you have something in common (a child) there's really no reason not to split up, men and women don't have anything else in common, that's for sure.
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>>80822779
didn't know that. from what age can they chose?
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