Friendly reminder that Europe will only have a future if we embrace islam.
Islam will make Europe great again.
>>80709719
Yeah could be as great as Yemen some day.
>>80709719
Agree. Adolf Hitler thought that Carl Martel defeating arabs and stopping islamisation of europe was a mistake.
if you want great europe . you have to make a great world for every one . you cant have a great europe without having a great world . forget it . we live in the same world
>>80709719
How to easily spot a TANNED GERMAN.
This poster has no foreskin.
>>80711365
Ubermenschen want success and prosperity. Untermenschen want equality.
>>80711365
I couldn't understand what you tried to say but agree with general idea - you can't have great world while Albania remains on the planet.
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>>80710931
>>80710931
This. There are parallels between the rewards of Jihad and those of Walhalla. Both glorify death in battle. Islam in perfectly suited to the German temperament.
>>80711548
no no . fuck equality . noone is equal . but we are in the same world .
>>80711588
if you will make the world great if you remove albania . i will be the first to sacrifice .
>>80709719
most sound articulation I have seen from a German for a long time. Islam is just the continuation of Christianity and those in Middle East should learn how to carry the great banner, subhuman filth should be thought...
Islam will make everyone smelly Muhammads and Achmeds. Sounds like a regression.
>>80712464
not necessarily, those in MidEast would be in such an awe when they see how Islam can be used, think about great Prussian temporal thinking with Islam, engineering and great philosophy.
>>80711588
what i am trying to say is that . if you want to have real good life not artificial good like it exists today . your neighbour must have a good life too . because you are the world and the world is you . people think they are separated lol .
>>80709719
Every country that has just óne religion and culture is a country worth living in. The mixture of cultures and religions is what causes the shit we see today.
>>80712866
maybe that's why you should convert to islam, so that you can both show the world that superiority is not about religion but also easily unite under a single religion.
>>80709719
>goat fuckers
>making anything not shit
>>80713013
I don't see this as the right time to do so, seeing how high the tensions are.
If I move to the middle east I would be killed anyway.
In 2100, even Islam will be a relic of the past.
As Mohammad demands to be addressed by xer and has pink hair.
>>80710757
fpbp
>>80713142
what tensions, killing other muslim is what the religion is as currently, at least you will not be pointed out as imperialist or something...
>>80713088
exactly
>>80713208
take your fucking half burkhas back and then talk about it you filthy australoid chong king gonk. ISLAM IS THE RELIGION WE NEED.
everything that separates man is just illusion. if you want to know real power . go out in the street and identify with every one outside . forget yourself . identify with others . just observe . dont judge . the world is corrupted . conditioned . throw ages . but you can free yoursef .look at peoples eyes and know the truth
>>80713782
> Go out in the street
> Identify
> Observe
> Dont judge
> Get charged with stalking and sexual herassment
This is 2016. Not 1976.
>>80713858
haha . ye i cant explain myself . you have to be careful . dont interfere with them . just observe .
>>80713013
nice try mudslime sand nigger
Fuck your religion.
Fuck your prophet
Literally move on the the present thank you
>>80709719
>Europe will only have a future if we embrace islam.
over every, single mudslime's body
>>80713928
What religion are you?
>>80714125
he thinks he is jewish but when he say it all he will hear will be a yalla from me.
>>80709719
hahaahaaahaha
>>80714125
>>80714272
I'm religionless, fags.
Not even in a belief-sense. my close heritage does not link me to either Christianity nor Judaism, certainly not Islam.
>>80714634
No one is religionless.
god is in every one of us . in reality you are god . but everyone else is god too . god is everything .religions and all other ideologies etc are just words
>>80714634
So your gay?
>>80714634
so you are a jewish atheist, stfu.
![Pepe-The-Frog-Enough-06[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/neSSl9M.jpg "Pepe-The-Frog-Enough-06[1].jpg")
>>80714826
I see the concept of religion and heritage is a little hard for you to grasp, mudslime.
When a child is born to a Jewish father and a Christian mother, said child is neither. Have a whole family of "neithers" and there you go. Not even by heritage.
Not even the Nazis would've prosecuted me faggot lel.
>>80715102
go back to europe, lol
>>80715102
What do you believe? Since you claim to be superior to religious people.
>>80715247
>asked about personal religion
>answers the question
>well then..since you claim to be superior..
what
>>80715391
> Calls some one a mudslime
Don't dodge the question you contrarian atheistic shit lord.
Germany and France are on course to be majority Muslim. Once that happens the EU breaks up. Then war.
>>80715450
Islam is for retards. He is right on that.
>>80709719
>friendly reminder that a religion that hasn't produced a successful nation in 2000 years will improve upon the nations inhabited by the masters of the world who built the most successful, prosperous nations in human history
Also, shitting in your tea improves the taste
>>80715547
>Germany and France
and Britain, and Belgium, and Netherlands, and Sweden, ...
>>80715616
>a religion that hasn't produced a successful nation in 2000 years
U mayyad?
>>80715247
Every non-believer is superior to religious people. Except Pastafarians.
>>80715450
mudlimse is quite the descriptive tag, he can be a non-inferior mudslime for all I care, wouldn't you feel more comfortable without the buttplug, anon?
>>80715595
Oh look another fedora tipping elitist claiming one religion is better than the other.
They're as bad and as good as one another. There's very little difference.
>>80715676
Yeah I'm gonna sell my properties and move to the US the moment pro Islamic laws begin to be passed in core EU states. Total collapse will be quick to follow.
>>80715796
> Buttplug
Trash.
>>80715746
> Not choosing the best option
>>80715595
islam is the answer for yuuroop. if you were able to italicize the mongrels of Byzants, you can certainly get on super nitro german car with islam.
>>80715676
just stay calm bro. I'm with you.
>>80715811
They are worse than other religions because they have the most primitive and brainwashed followers.
Speaking with Muslims that have recently arrived to Ireland is entertaining. Literally trying to convert people at lunch time in work and getting offended when told to shut up and keep it private. That guy didn't last long.
>>80715949
Great going. But offending religions and calling yours better is what starts civil wars.
I'm agnostic. Full acceptance of death not being in my control and whatever comes after.
>>80716030
>Civil wars
The sooner the better. Fuck those primate apes. Even Africans seem civilised by comparison.
>>80709719
No.
>>80716090
Irony.
If islam makes things great, why are all islamic countries shit?
>>80716148
The collapse of the EU is inevitable. Muslims are too primitive to not be a nuisance as they become the majority in core EU states and then the EU will just disolve. It's already begun.
>>80716257
collapse is about you getting scared shitless of Russia, not pitty fucker niggers you feed.
>>80709719
>t. Shitskin
>>80716030
What, you dont want a civil war at this point?
Nigger lover.
>>80716377
Russia is less of a threat than France and Germany and their plan to spread their demographics problems to the rest of the EU.
>>80716472
He says he is agnostic but he worships a carpet 5 times a day and gets mad when people mock mudslimes.
So I just noticed the star on the symbol of Islam is upside down
>>80716509
there is literally nothing wrong with it. saying again, just say the word and you are a muslim...
>>80709719
>>80709719
Fuck off sand chimp islam would send us back to the stone age just like tge middle east is now days with jizlam running show
>>80709719
Friendly reminder to never underestimate the Germans lust to live under authoritarian regime
>>80714663
kek, sure
>>80716633
Iv heard Judaism is much harder to get into. More exclusive.
>>80716569
But yet I never stated I was religious in any kind of way. Reading. Learn it.
>>80716472
We have literally zero firearms. How are you going to defend yourself?
>>80716817
*tips fedora*
>>80709719
Of course it's the German spreading kebab
>>80716822
>No one is religiousless
So you are trolling, retard or Muslim? Which?
>>80716820
>exclusive
kek
>>80716766
>Fuck off sand chimp islam would send us back to the stone age just like tge middle east is now days with jizlam running show
>>80716964
If you're an atheist you're still religious.
>>80709719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vin5kzhHyxQ
So all the kebab enslave the white people?
Are you fucking insane OP?
>>80717094
Oh dear. That is the logic of a retard.
>>80709719
It seems Europe has a kebab problem.
>>80710931
>>80712026
Kill yourselves Achmeds.
Islam is multiculturalism filth supported by Jews.
>op posts bait
>everyone goes mad
Everytime
>>80717177
So you disagree but provide zero arguments why you do so. What a way to believe in your cause.
> Believe religion is a hoax
> Believe there's no god
> Believe the Evolution THEORY
> Not a religion
>>80716849
this is not USA, it's just that commies did pretty good job eradicating religion in here
but you what you got me, every time it's storm out there I pray my ass to Perun
>>80709719
Go take your mohammed and shove him up your winged horses ass you fucking morons.
>>80716766
goddamn right, it's the right thing to do and everyone here fucking knows it.
>>80717205
Just let us know if you need advice on arms.
>>80717236
Wait you're right. It's more of a cult thing.
> Attack other religions for inferiority
> While claiming superiority and truth
My bad. Really progressive though.
>>80717068
>have oil
>buy european engineers
>buy asian or african slaves
>80% of the population still dirt poor
Wew
>>80717236
You are blatantly a mudslime. Every dumb sentence you type makes it obvious.
Baba Vanga said muzzies will take over Europe and then Murrica will try to take back Europe and bring back Christianity
>>80717331
I won't need arms till I sell up and move to the US with my money and then it will be just recreational stuff. Hunting and target shooting.
Europe really is doomed.
>>80717429
> More strawman and ad hominems
I bet you're not even a real atheist
>>80712026
FORMER german temperament
>>80717427
extreme nepotistic corruption
you get money if you are related to the king, and if you badmouth the king they will come into your house at night and take you away
according to my saudi roomate at least
Remove kebab.
>>80717373
I'm only calling Islam pig shit actually. Other religions I don't really mind. Of all the religion in the world Muslims seem the most stupid. It's why they are so numerous. Lowest common denominator.
>>80717373
Oh my god you're such an autist
or a really persistent bait
>>80717526
I could be atheist agnostic or catholic based on my flag. I never said all religions were wrong. It's clear that Islam is the most primate religion in the world right now.
>>80711365
yeah and i suppose we are the ones who have to make the world great ourselves, while you shitskins just drink whore rape and steal
you don't deserve anything you didn't create yourself
>>80709719
can i also rape your mom so i bring multycolturism to germany?
>>80717585
> Calling one of the biggest religions shit and still feel good about yourself
I want what you're having.
>>80717587
Not an argument.
The funny thing is, is that there's no contradicting proof of God, nor is there proof of his existence. Arguing is literally pointless.
>>80717587
Muslim claiming to be agnostic to appear neutral. Everyone who criticises Islam is everything that is wrong.
I think Judaism has its positives.
>>80717713
What I have is a mind not poisoned with Islam.
>>80717657
If you're an atheist you're against all religions. You can't be an atheist and an agnostic at the same time.
>>80717236
this makes no sense at all. religions are making the claim that there is some kind of deity. when we atheists ask for evidence, they can't provide objective evidence. the burden of proof is completely on religions, we don't have to proof that he doesn't exist. until there is absolute evidence of a higher power, i'll remain atheist. it's not a religion, it's just the refutation of an untruth. are you new to philosophy?
>>80717236
Every set of ideas is a theory.
Religion is a theory about how god created the universe, what god wants etc, Evolution is a theory how live evolved.
Abrahamic religions are proven to be wrong, evolution still isn't disproven.
>>80717775
You don't seem to have a very good understanding of English.
>>80717775
actually you can
>>80717804
Evolution is recognised as scientific fact now. Up to you if you think science is fact or fiction though.
>>80717427
But you have to give them props to make something out of their oil money in comparison to other countries. Making an arid region green and rich with real estate, inviting investors, having a great airline business, no trade barriers and minimal state intervention, extremely low crime. I wouldn't badmouth Dubai, they're more robust than the US.
>>80717766
But still poisoned with self loathing ego centric hate for a religion you know jack shit about.
You're so fed up with it that you would just assume some one's a muslim for disagreeing with your values. Which you can only share on this website and nowhere else without being punished.
>>80717777
Religions don't nééd evidence. Hence the believe part.
> Are you new to philosophy?
> Unwilling to think outside the box
> Just 'No. No God. Not possible.'
>>80717804
This is something I can get behind. Attacking religions is as dated as you claim these religions to be.
>>80717713
believing god in an analytical sense is stupid, while not being religious is OK, I believe it is more praiseworthy to choose to live a religious life, than to fuck everyone you see on sight and "sin".
>>80717945
Religion is as human as being a human is a religion.
You literally can't be 0% religious. Because religion isn't just believing in a God. It also comes back in culture, community and humanity.
>>80717713
Islam is worse than shit, it's a fucking cancer on humanity. An all-controlling blight on the goodness of humanity.
>>80717918
Thinking Islam is retarded is self loathing? Lol Muslim! Muslims detected!
>>80718018
Filtered.
>>80718058
> If I call a religion retarded, am I self loathing?
If saying it makes you feel good, yes.
>>80717888
Every theory is just one discovery away from being disproven.
I consider it a fact because the likelyhood for that to happen is low, but it's a bad argument on a more fundamental level
>>80716916
shitty kebab
>>80709719
Why do you say 'we' when you're not European? islam will be gone from Europe soon, either because the people wake up or the Elites finally get shit sick of brown peasants leeching welfare and ruining everywhere they colonize.
>>80718076
Mudslime. Come to Europe to be cheap labor. Serve Mexican food and pretend you are south American. Kek.
>>80718076
I bet you love bending over for mohammad's cock 3 times a day or more, don't you?
Sick pedophiles and closet faggots is what Islam consists of, with a little bit of violent depravity.
>>80718130
For your information it's regognised as scientific fact now. Not a theory. Do with that what you will.
>>80717888
The idea of science is that everything can be dissproven and is open for change. Yes also that theory you hold so dear.
>>80718155
> Come to europe
I was born here.
>>80718191
> Mohammad
You're not even trying anymore.
>>80717918
>Religions don't nééd evidence. Hence the believe part.
Yes they do. Religious peoples evidence is their holy scriptures, which they hold as very strong evidence. Sceptics don't consider it good evidence. It's normal to "believe" anything based on evidence, just like all science. They fact that religious evidence doesn't have much in the way of making real world predictions that would support the idea that their God is real, is where the "faith" part comes from.
>>80717918
>Religions don't nééd evidence.
if you make the claim that god exists, you need evidence to back that up. if you can't provide evidence, your claim will be discarded as not true.
sure, you can believe whatever you want, that's why we have freedom of religion. but there need to be a line between reality and fantasy. reality needs proof, fantasy doesn't.
>> Unwilling to think outside the box
we're just sticking to the rules of philosophy. no evidence? then it's probably not true.
>>80709719
Islam would root out the leftist pigs that allowed them in. WWIII would strike a blow for Cucks on the scale of white nationalism in WWII
They're shitty, but they know not to let women into power
>>80709719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdzaYZWDO3A
>>80718238
You need to spend a bit more time studying what scientific fact means my mudslime.
>>80718238
Don't you worry kebab scum, removal will come soon enough.
>>80718208
Well, that's just semantics in my opinion, but thanks for the info anyway
>>80717713
There's plenty of contradicting proof against the Old and New testaments, their variations, The Qur'an etc.
Some people rape the concept of god out of meaning and twist it until all that's left of it is
just that "thing" which "apparently sparked the beginning of the universe" and nothing more.
At this point even mentioning it is pointless, whether such god exists or not - I frankly don't care.
Obviously when you strip the concept of god so much as to distance it from any countable, researchable or measurable, you're going to have an unprovable end result, but at that point - what is proving or disproving it even mean? nothing.
Religions however - such blatant sad lies, fallen to obvious mockery and contradictions with everywhere and everything.
>>80718270
If religion needed evidence it wouldn't exist.
> Based on evidence like all science
You're objectively wrong.
>>80718300
> If you make the claim that God exists you need to provide proof
This goes both ways. Provide proof of his abscence and non existence before making stupid and childish claims to pamper your depressive life.
>>80718345
America is busy enough with the nigger tantrum. Solve that before you stick your oil leaking cock into Europe's affairs.
>>80718270
you are so screwed kiddo. get over your modernism.
>>80709719
""""""civilized people"""""""" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWhYE7qiB0I
""""moderate muslims""""""""" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqWCkMQsm0c
Death to traitors! Death to Islam! The West will be free and we shall defeat you! Germany will be the graveyard of the Islamists dreams!
>>80718378
It's really not. Evolution is like the fact of earth revolving around the sun. It's been documented and recorded to such an extent now that no contradicting evidence or shadow of doubt exists.
How life began I can't tell you but life is known to evolve without doubt. At least according to science. If you trust science then evolution is fact and not theory.
>>80718425
This is the mind of the mudslime.
>>80718425
>If religion needed evidence it wouldn't exist.
no, if religion needed "good" evidence it wouldn't exist. People believe their moon god scriptures are reliable descriptions of how the universe works. This is evidence for them. It's shit evidence, but it's mental justification for their belief system. Unlike good evidence, they can't be critical of it or it falls apart.
>>80718456
How am I screwed?
>>80713208
Fuck off and go back to mainland, chink.
Oh they execute shitty ass damaged slanty like you? Haha faggot
Protip: unlike your adopted religion, ours will prevail because it is the Truth, not myriad Lies.
>>80718456
There is actually a Wikihow page on how to debate religious people into God not being there. It's beyond pathetic.
http://www.wikihow.com/Argue-That-God-Does-Not-Exist
All of the steps are even based on the fact that they don't even know what religion is.
None of you people in this thread have even provided proof of the absence of God. You're all name calling and bantering with strawman fallacies.
> 'Lol religion should provide proof of God'
Religion means you choose to believe there's a God without seeing/hearing it.
Banter example without points being made:
>>80718541
Go die in a fire.
>>80718567
Even science doesn't know how the Universe works. Who are you to critisize Religion for having a lack of knowledge on this subject?
Every year people come up with new theories. Hell, every month.
>>80718610
>None of you people in this thread have even provided proof of the absence of God.
I don't have proof that there aren't lizardmen living under the crust of the earth either. I don't of proof of million of other things not being true. But that's not a reason to presume they do exist.
>>80718425
>This goes both ways. Provide proof of his abscence and non existence before making stupid and childish claims to pamper your depressive life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof
it absolutely doesn't. the burden of proof lays on the shoulders of those making the claim that god exist. do you want to convince me there is a higher power? alright, show evidence and i might believe you. oh, you got no evidence. i'm not convinced.
it's not up to me to show evidence it doesn't exist, because i'm not making the claim that there is no god. i'm saying that if you can't back it up, it's probably not true and i won't believe it.
>>80718657
>Even science doesn't know how the Universe works.
I know.
>Who are you to critisize Religion for having a lack of knowledge on this subject?
I didn't.
>Every year people come up with new theories. Hell, every month.
I know
>>80709719
Islam can stay, but the shitskins have to go. All of them.
That would be an OK trade.
One shitty middle eastern Religion is as bad as the next.
But the sandniggers and actual niggers that bring it are incompatible with ordered society.
>>80718381
>but at that point
at that point, you look for it more idiot. go back to europe.
>>80718578
>>80718270
I don't hold bible an evidence, i hold it as holy. it's a choice, not an argument. you do not believe with evidence, you know it you newtonian moron. I thought only Israel live out of time.
>>80718698
> There's not a reason to presume it exists
> Therefore it doesn't exist
Yeah.
>>80718710
> The burden of proof is on the ones that make the claim
You're claiming God doesn't exist and that Islam is shit.
>>80718610
oh god
see >>80718381
>>80718610
Debate you? Iv just been calling you a retarded slime. You are below debate.
>>80718783
Christ just look at the motives on why they so desperately want to disprove your religion.
>>80718865
> You are below debate because I called you a retarded mudslime
3/10 Kindergarten level. Get lost.
>>80718469
like animals these subhuman
>>80718783
Your religion is a joke, get over it.
>also repeats the same """comeback""" a second time to hope some one will give him the attention he craves
here, happy faggot?
>>80718844
Absolutely no need to disprove Religion. None.
Let some one have their own values and moral compass without intervering so much.
You live in a country where you are hunted for not being religious which is sad. And I feel bad for you. But I choose what I believe and live by. Which is what religion/culture/community is all about.
>>80718966
> Your religion is a joke
Kys.
>>80718797
i'm not making a claim at all, i'm refuting the claim of religious people. if people weren't trying to convince us of a god, we could just live our lives without the idea that he might exist, because science answers most important questions to us in an objective manner.
>>80712464
See >>80712647
Being Muslim doesn't automatically mean you have to start fucking goats and beating little girls for going to school. If Europe eventually developed a more open form of Christianity, why couldn't the same happen with Islam?
>>80713013
>Islam
>united
Even protestants and catholics stopped killing each other, where as it's a constant war between Sunni and Shi'a
>>80718797
>Yeah.
I don't know for sure lizardmen don't exist anon. But I don't believe they do. Same with God. I presume you don't believe in lizardmen for similar reasons.
>>80719090
The point that I'm arguing is that some one calls some one else's religion shit. You jumping in with other arguments means you're a part of the discussion that I started.
If you want to constantly disprove some one's religion just to make yourself feel good, you're a fucking fag and an asshole.
>>80719151
I believe in the possibility of there being a God without needing proof because it doesn't matter in the end. Dead = dead.
The only fact that I know off is that I'm going to die one day. Which is fine.
>>80712428
>>80712647
>>80713013
>muslim getting all excited
So after the christian reformation and the enligtnment(and many theologians and philosophers addressing Christianity) which removed christian dogma, europeans should turn to unreformed primitive islam and go through the process all over again?
If europe decides to become religious again why would it not simply take on Christianity?
Islam itself is primitive as a religion. It doesnt have the proper backbone and thinkers to integrate itself with a democracy and a liberal society or capitalism.
Islam was a detriment back then and is still a detriment to the societies it pervades.
>>80718783
>I don't hold bible an evidence, i hold it as holy.
Not mutually exclusive concepts anon.
>>80719047
>you live in a country where...
oh please, Israel is a safer haven to atheists than most of Europe by now. It goes the other way around here, religifags are the hunted, if anything.
Again, you speak about matters you have no clue about. Pretty tragic argumentation there.
>>80719262
>I believe in the possibility of there being a God without needing proof because it doesn't matter in the end.
Me too. But even though I believe there is a possibility. The possibility is low.
>>80719097
>why couldn't the same happen with Islam
It could and Ivan here have a good point >>80718737
>>80719378
>I know nothing about my country
Eh, religiosity is rising in Israel.
>>80719047
>But I choose what I believe and live by
And you can't make up your own mind without buying into the crap people tell you to make you give them your money/life/etc?
I mean there is no one who would attack you for being a deist or believing that our universe is a simulation.
But the jump from deism to theism is just in no way rational.
The problem is too many people think they know what god wants.
>>80719387
The possibility shouldn't be measured.
Just leave it at that. You may not like what you find.
>>80719378
Gee I'm sorry for not being invested in a country I give zero shits about.
>>80712428
no way cockroach I like the whole submission to husband and piousness of Islam but will not accept the most fag "we are all equal muslims no matter what race" multiculti crap. Also not giving up drinking
>>80719490
>The possibility shouldn't be measured.
Why?
>You may not like what you find.
What do you mean?
>>80718966
you are depressing and that's not because of me. attend yourself, I am just providing you an opinion.
>here, happy faggot?
not until you gimme my ivri pussies
>>80719484
> I choose what I live by
> I can't make up my mind
Pick one.
> There is no one that would attack you for your belief
Look above.
>>80719524
> What do you mean, and why?
Well there's a possibility of everything being a simulation. I wouldn't like that. It's also possible that Hell exists. I wouldn't like that either. Tampering with death could always cause some sort of problem.
>ITT thread full of people living in christendom but know nothing about their religion, thinking a wife submitting to her husband is somehow muslim.
>>80719464
That's quite of a lie, all the trends indicate the opposite. There's occassional polling that says religion is on the rise but it's so distorted that can't be any serious consideration.
>>80719631
> Christendom
My country is mostly Catholic. (Roman)
>>80719399
>>80719399
>>80719399
LOL
Every "sect" of Islam is trying to kill the other sect.
>>80719747
So a roman catholic is not christian?
>>80719791
Same applies with Christians / Catholic when given the chance. Muslims are just given the chance.
>>80719843
You actually believe that Christians and Catholics are alike?
>>80719845
Retard detected.
>>80719192
when two parties are in a discussion and one asserts a claim that the other disputes, the one who asserts has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim. an argument from ignorance occurs when either a proposition is assumed to be true because it has not yet been proved false or a proposition is assumed to be false because it has not yet been proved true. this has the effect of shifting the burden of proof to the person criticizing the proposition.
this isn't about who started this discussion, this is about religions trying to convince people of a god with nothing to back it up. science is objective and has been proven, otherwise it wouldn't be science. religion does not have proof. so until there is proof, it's safe to assume it doesn't exist.
>If you want to constantly disprove some one's religion just to make yourself feel good, you're a fucking fag and an asshole.
i'm not saying this to make myself feel good, i'm saying this because ignoring the rules of science and philosophy is detrimental to the world. if we're really going that route we're going back in time thousands of years. is that what you want to do?
>>80719872
Nice argument.
>>80719628
>Well there's a possibility of everything being a simulation. I wouldn't like that. It's also possible that Hell exists. I wouldn't like that either.
That's like not wanting to check your bank balance in case you can't afford that new iPhone you've been wanting.
Not wanting to think about the nature of life for fear of coming to some depressing conclusion is cowardly.
There is no compelling evidence that everything is a simulation or that hell exists. Both are possibilities, but there's no reason to live life assuming they are true.
>>80719882
> Is that what you want to do?
No I'm good. Science and philosophy hold no sway on the 'rules' of the world.
>>80719490
The only apology you should provide is for your unbelievably oblivious argumentation and occassionaly being an embarassing tart.
>>80719898
Your argument is just as weak.
You claim Christians just love to murder each other, state your sources.
Hard mode: Last 150 years.
>>80719845
What do you mean "given the chance"? Christians can kill one another any time they want, they just don't. Different sects live amongst each other all the time. They have every chance. They just aren't cultural savages.
>>80719913
> Cowardly
No it's not. You're wasting your breath if you keep looking for the awnser because you'll never find it.
Every person has a different idea of what death is like and I implore them to stick to their own idea and at least respect each other enough to leave each other alone in that aspect.
>>80720031
> What do you mean given the chance
Funding by first world countries and having weapons given to you. Also having nothing to do but shooting each other and being in a war does the trick quite nicely.
>>80720018
What a retarded way of arguing.
> Name one gender that has a vagina
> Hard mode: Not a woman
> 'lol i'm right :)'
>>80719863
I believe that both catholics and protestants and orthodox christians are all christian and all part of christendom. When all western middle and northern europeans were catholics europe was called christendom.
>>80709719
>>80719966
if you really want to argue against science and philosophy as a whole, your problem lies much deeper than i initially thought. is that what's going on here? do you see science as on par with religion? do you not believe scientists?
>>80720137
Crusades are a great example of how violent Christians can be. But yet you choose to ignore that fact for your own leisure.
Roman Catholics banned every religion in Rome except their own. Even the Pantheon was turned into a church, while being a marketplace before being claimed.
>>80720257
> All of these different religions are the same
>>80720007
>shitting himself about stats of his own country but lectures a foreigner.
>>80709719
>Islam will make Europe great again.
>muslims
>poor
>violent
>stupid
>lazy
>making anything great
How come ?
>>80718737
Said anon has BTFO'd them muslims, this is where /thread happened, actually, and nobody noticed.
>>80720317
Christ science and philosophy are not the same thing.
Wether I believe that the earth is round is still my own choice and I probably could provide enough proof to support my beliefs in that context.
As stated above by me, the idea of science is that everything can still be disproven and changed.
The Quantum Theory has pretty much disproven everything we believe but I can still decide to completely ignore it.
>>80720257
but not orthodox, since great schism...
it's politics of religion, not religion, as you turd try to make it look like it is not...
europe can use islam, it is a great source
>>80717205
Islam is the opposite of multiculturalism, and the Jews are terrified of it.
>>80720335
Religiosity isn't on a high, what do you have in your favour? 3 polls?
All the trends prove otherwise, the dominant voice is the Hiloni, which ocassionaly overlaps the anti-religious voice for a majority. You have completely no idea what you're talking about.
>>80720506
Media has made it so that every one is afraid of Islam.
>>80720577
> Uses the 'polls could be wrong' argument while using polls to support his own claims
>>80720476
stop that bullshit: -europe can use islam, it is a great source-
>>80720476
A source of primitivism.
It is true that europeans need to be more brutal but not by adopting the religion of the shitskins who are threatening them. They have the power to exterminate all muslim roaches, with ease.
Once Euroepans realize this the joke that is islam, with all your bearded screaming fucks running around shooting their aks into their feet, will finally end.
>>80720797
I'm giving us 15 years until that actually happens.
I'm up for a full purging of terrorists and rapists but not for 'religious' reasons.
>>80720474
>Christ science and philosophy are not the same thing.
that's why i said science AND philosophy, not sciencephilosophy.
and science is constantly corrected everywhere based on what's true. that's the beauty of it, we don't have the answers to everything, but we're doing everything we can to look for the answers. science can be wrong sometimes, but we're happy to admit that, so we can correct it and know the truth.
>>80719845
Absolutely fucking wrong. Being an inbred muslim fecaloma is really not working well for your general mental capabilities, I see.
>>80720884
> We don't have the awsners
Which was literally my point. The point that I use to contradict every argument that aims to cripple religion.
>>80720137
Burger land is filled with millions of christians who own guns. People are wealthy enough in western society to buy guns if they want to start shit. There's just no demand.
>Also having nothing to do but shooting each
Yeah, because just building a country with a high standard of living is just too boring for muslims i guess.
>>80720577
Yeah.. I work in the israeli statistics department, but you go on ahead and enlighten me. Maybe one of your friends became secular? XD
I love to see fedora atheists getting all riled up about religion. Israel needs to be religious the question is simply about what sort of religiosity will it be. One that can work with contemporary science and philosophy or one that will take us back.
One way or another we are becoming a religious society.
>>80712428
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>>80715883
You are a disgusting human being and I regret to have been born in the same country with you. You are the sole reason why this place is terrible. I sincerely mean this when I say you should kill yourself.
Do it. Do it for the world.
>>80720907
How is that education going in Bulgaria?
>>80720959
> Boring
They are literally being funded by the USA and the Russian Federation with weapons / vehicles and money.
>>80720984
> Getting this upset
You're doing it wrong.
>>80720657
I'm not using polls, the power religious have in this country is solely as obstructing minorities in the parliament.
All the cultural trends point exactly in the opposite direction of this imaginary "religious high rise". Also those polls he talks about suffer greatly from misleading definitions. Can link.
>>80720883
Terrorism and rape are literally cornerstones of islamic religion. Prtty much the only thing your rapeprophet was doing was rape and murder of people who didn't agree with his retarded agenda.
>>80709719
>>80720018
>You claim Christians just love to murder each other, state your sources.
Mother Teresa, she even got a nobelprice for it
>>80721147
> Your rape prophet
Where did I give you the impression that I am a muslim? I'm not.
>>80720797
lap more eurocock gever,
>>80720984
shalom
>>80709719
nice try Ahmed
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>>80721056
>They are literally being funded by the USA and the Russian Federation with weapons / vehicles and money.
and? If i gave you money to buy guns and kill people would you do it?
>>80721353
No.
>>80720992
Went pretty well for me, thank you Ahmed. I graduated uni magna cum laude more than 5 years ago.
How does it feel being a member of a worldwide death cult which ultimately seeks to destroy everything, including it's western benefactors who actually allowed it to exist and prosper?
>>80721236
>posts a picture of a typical day in a muslim's life
Yes, Muslims are contributing to the world in the sense that muslims kill more muslims than any other group of people.
>>80721094
then how come hassidic leaders say that atheist founded israel but we will have our say too...
>>80720984
you are right
>>80720930
>to everything
way to strawman
we don't have the answers to everything but we admit that, and actively test and research to get the answers. just because we don't have the answers doesn't mean there's a god. there are more logical explanations. when a door closes automatically it's easy to say ghosts did it because you don't have the answer. but maybe it was just the wind. people also used to think that epileptic attacks were possessions by demons, but now we know that there is something wrong in the brain that causes that. get what i'm saying? people tend to resort to something supernatural when they don't know the answer.
>>80721396
So what difference does it make that the US and Russia are funding muslims to shoot each other? They already want to kill each other and could probably find weapons anyways. The US and Russia are giving them money for better weapons. Meanwhile is christian countries where people are wealthy, can afford guns and often own them, no one wants to kill each other.
>>80720984
Tell me, turk, how common is atheism in Turkey?
I get the feeling that with Erdogan's neo ottomanism you're kinda going full ISIS mode lately.
>>80713605
>WE
You aren't european ahmed, in fact you're not even white, same goes for your muslims brothers.
>>80709719
fuck you and fuck your EU
restore the empire is what i prefer
>>80721467
what? grammar you cunt, atleast try
>>80721714
What he posted was readable.
Hassidic wont overtake the country. Its not practical in any way. But something like a mix of religious zionism and less expensionist stands, yes.
>>80721628
> So what difference does it make?
A lot. You critisizing radical muslims for killing one another is pure irony looking at where the money really comes from.
But I shouldn't hold you accountable for your country's actions. Same as you shouldn't hold me accountable.
>>80721402
> You're a terrorist for disagreeing with me
>>80709719
Islam will ruin Europe and you muslims will just move your fighting in the middle east towards Europe. If any country in Europe becomes muslim it'd be best to nuke them and end their suffering. Muslims are different from us non-muslims after all. I think our hatred for what the muslims have done might be one of the few things that can unite us. You people are violent monsters, even if you don't show it that rage is in every last one of you. You will stop at nothing to convert or kill every last non-muslim because that is what your long dead false prophet wanted. Thanks for killing millions because of a power hungry man in the desert who wanted to use religion to attain power.
>>80721992
You bet I can't wait until I have a good reason to behead IS muslims.
>>80721523
just praise alla
>>80721604
>compares existence and relations of matter to a door closing
outta boy, such science, illuminare
>>80721671
It's Aschmad, please, where are your manners?
>>80721839
you don't need more settlements and europe needs some islam, reporting out now.
As an Israeli christian I have to say...muslims have good birth rates and a pretty happy family life...a lot of money too, but they're dellusional, violent and very very dumb...jews on the other hand are narcissistic sociopaths who are constantly paranoid and seem very depressed all the time...judaism is shit and islam is shit, christianity is real hapiness...I feel sorry for those who haven't accepted christ yet...so much hapiness and such a good sex life you're all missing.
Israeli christians are the most successful minority on the planet, in education, science, culture and money. FACT.
>>80721477
I don't care who or what you are. Presenting the "not all muslims" argument makes you depraved enough in my eyes and clearly goes to show that you don't know nothing about islam and it's adherents.
Moderate islam is a huge meme, that's like saying AIDS is moderate just because it still isn't full blown and effectively killing the person afflicted by it.
You westerners are all deceived; you live in your tidy welfare states, absolutely oblivious to the threat that grips your homeland and lurks around your wives, children and parents.
Balkan states however, we've seen quite enough of muslim bullshit and we know exactly what they are. We know.
We remember. Worst thing is, you will too. But not until it's already too late.
>>80721467
>then how come hassidic leaders say that atheist founded israel but we will have our say too...
That's your problem right there, you listen to these old people who know nothing of the world besides having read an old book. Learn using your own brain to make decisions instead of just blindly following the orders of those senile violent men.
>>80721858
>You critisizing radical muslims for killing one another is pure irony looking at where the money really comes from.
Why?
You mean that our governments are also violent for funding muslims who want to kill each other? No, our governments are smart for paying muslims to kill each other.
I never claimed christian countries were very ethical, I just said we don't kill each other. Someone (you?) claimed that christians would be infighting just as much as muslims if we were given the chance, and I called bs.
>>80722181
> Presenting the not all muslims argument
But I didn't.
> You don't know anything about Islam!
> You westerners are all deceived
Wew lad
>>80722277
> You mean our governments are violent for funding violent people?
Yes that's what I mean.
Yeah I claimed that Christians would do the same under the same sircumstances.
>those fake Turkroaches defending on islam
islam is why Turkey is shithole afaik. If ataturk didnt die so soon he would btfo all islam fags already.
fuck islam
fuck arabs
fuck syria
>>80722162
>>compares existence and relations of matter to a door closing
it's an analogy, roach. stay out of europe.
>>80722416
>Yeah I claimed that Christians would do the same under the same sircumstances.
kill each other? Yeah, we don't. What's your point? Paying muslims to kill each other does not somehow mean christians kill each other.
>>80722181
How's the muslim spread going in the Balkan states? We got like 5% of the population being muslim right now in the Netherlands. Not really happy with that but at least some of them have joined the IS so they're gone for a while.
>>80722488
> What's your point?
That Christians would do the same, and did the same. That's my point. No need for one religion to critisize the other over actions.
> Paying muslims to kill each other does not somehow mean christians kill each other
I know. I stated that it doesn't make you better then them, if you pay both sides. It even makes you worse.
>>80722486
>it's an analogy, roach. stay out of europe.
it is a metaphore and you are a dumbass.
>>80722334
>Wew lad
That's an absolutely adamant argument you got there, pal. All Benelux cucks together with your nourishing German tit and Frankistan will be a caliphate in no more than 20 years.
I know you don't see it and you're used to it, but from the eyes of an Eastern European, you are literally overrun with niggers and muslims. It is actually scary, pretty damn fucking scary.
>>80722619
>That Christians would do the same
the same as what? Kill each other? Then why aren't we killing each other now when we all have money and guns? What you're saying makes no sense.
>It even makes you worse.
I never claimed otherwise. I just said we don't kill each other like muslims do.
>>80722416
>Yeah I claimed that Christians would do the same under the same sircumstances.
But there's one catch, we don't. Muslims do and they kill us christians too. How nice of them to visit our Europe and continue the fight for Allah right?
>>80722176
>get stabbed randomly in street
>someone blows up next to you on street
>why are you all so paranoid
Because we fucking have to live near useless shitskins like yourself.
Want an actual FACT, Israel would be one of the wealthiest and most successful countries on earth if it wasnt for you camel fuckers.
>>80709719
Well, Europe already embraced a violent shitskin religion in the past while completely killing off it's home culture. Why not do it again?
