>>80664922
Of all the living organisms om the planet only humans are autistic enough to "worship" a fantasy creation.
Only if they vote for Trump and support the next Crusade.
Yes, why wouldn't they? I believe Canada should be a theocracy but if someone doesn't want to be a Christian we shouldn't kill them we aren't savage blood thirsty Muslims
>>80665107
>Only if they vote for Trump and support the next Crusade.
This
>>80665045
I completely agree with this, I have no idea why people still fall for this ridiculous evolution fantasy. It's been 200 years since this hoax was thought up, just stop, it's not funny anymore.
Let me guess either you were born into a family living in the dark ages who indoctrinated you into their system of beliefs, or your sweet little mum died and you so badly want to believe you'll see her again in heaven so you play pretend and waste time making threads like this one.
Choose one
Do Christians deserve to be deported to the middle east to live with their yhwh worshiping brothers?
>>80664922
Free will was a mistake.
I see no reason why God had to give us free will.
And fuck that Fucking snake too. And eve
Fucking bitch
>>80665107
>Trump
>loves fags
>loves trannys
>divorced
>sleeps with whores and prostitutes
>has a show where he models half naked whores
No thanks
Yes
We are all entitled to our basic human rights so long as we do not violate the rights of others
Faggot
>>80665045
And yet the west is being conquered by people with a strong belief in a made up god. You act as if the will of the belief itself isn't the most relevant thing.
>>80665045
how do you know that?
>>80664922
no
>>80665349
They don't believe in God, Muslims worship Satan
>>80664922
Objectively speaking if they are right then no, they don't deserve to live
If atheists are wrong and there is a merciful God up above then in that situation yes, they do deserve the life God has granted them in spite of their choosing to waste it this way
>>80665045
I saw a dog barking at the moon
>in this moment I am euphoric. Not because of any phony science, but because I am enlightened by my faith to the true master of the universe, Lord Yahweh, protector of Yisrael and the twelve tribes
>>80664922
that question would imply that you are god.
>>80664922
Do you?
>>80664922
Frogposters don't deserve to live
>>80665504
Doesn't matter what or who it is, they are doing it because they believe it. That's the most powerful thing.
>>80665547
they bark at everything
dogs confirmed for animism
>I simply cannot believe that its 2016 years after the birth of our lord Yeshua Christ, and people still deny his divinity. Its almost as if they never even read the ancient Judaic texts that specifically confirm his divinity. I swear to Yahweh, if I wasn't living in this athiest ruled society today I would go all deus vault on these heathens
cant really blame someone for not knowing if a god exists or not
>look all these sad atheists, desperately trying to find truth in human made stuff like science that is constantly changing. Meanwhile I have achieved the highest possible enlightenment by simply reading the ancient and sacred Hebrew texts that remained unchanged throughout times, I am ready to face any challenge in this world while at the same time I am in a constant state of euphoria, due to my closer proximity to the divine
>>80664922
That's about the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
Jump off a fucking skyscraper.
>>80665687
Giving you independence was a mistake
>I am always amused when athiest are trying to deny god. They all get so mad and start babbling about big explosions and other phony stuff. I simply keep calm and repeat them my favourite bible quote. This immediately shuts them down and makes them mad. I converted 23 athiest so far with my intellectual power
>>80664922
I'm atheist, what did I every do not to deserve to live?
>Just as I expected, all the atheist retreated to their holes, no one has the guts to argue with me. Just so you know, I am extensively well read In the Torah, New testament and all the apocrypha texts. I also memorized all the Chronicles from the Old testament in the original Hebrew. I would like to see an """"educated"""" atheist try to argue with me
Why are christfags so edgy?
>athiest are simply incapable of grasping the highest form of divine intellectualism that it takes to be religious. G-d is the most complex idea in the world, only the smartest and most elite of people are able to grasp this idea, I feel sorry for these unenlightened people
>>80665939
I understand you're trying to reverse the "le tip" meme, but it's just not working.
>>80665829
>>80665765
>>80665687
i've never even thought of flipping that one around but it works
>>80665248
Thread...
Why are the most autistic frogposters always christian?
I don't understand it.
>>80666080
it's doing just fine when you realize the whole point is someone is being a preachy annoying smug faggot (AKA every single christian that's ever been on /pol/)
>>80665241
>t. a leaf
nobody cares
MODS PLEASE BAN CANADIAN POSTERS
>>80666080
i understand you're trying to downplay a reverse meme but its not working
>>80666302
I wouldn't be surprised if I got banned one day for preaching the bible by some edgy mod who came here from Reddit
>>80666403
>>80666192
Yeah, you're really riling up those Christians. They might even start reversing the years long stale meme, since it's so burnt into their psyche.
Here's your (you)s
>>80666566
hell of a persecution complex you have, you stupid cunt
>>80666726
Why do you say that?
>>80666787
>o-one day someone will even ban me bcuz im preaching t-the bibl ;_;
>>80666875
I'm lucky living in Canada that's the worst that will happen to me, but with the way things are going Trudeau will probably outlaw the bible one day.
>>80667044
In typical Christian fashion, as always.
>>80664922
Who are you to choose if I deserve to live or die?
>>80667593
How can you even be an atheist? I don't understand it do you just look at the world around you and go yup all this happened because of an explosion
>>80667593
Answer the man's question >>80667756
>>80668362
I already answered it here >>80665114
They deserve to live, they still have the chance of redemption
>>80664922
Yes, only none-whites don't deserve to live. Except for east-asian people.
>>80668510
No I mean >>80667593 this guy should answer yours >>80667756
:)
evolutionarily, no. Religious thinking is an "irrational' way of dealing with a chaotic and irrational world. Religious thinking is an evolutionary adaption which is why it has lasted for so long and why they are the majority.
None of you exist except me. You are just fragmants of my infinite imagination and personality, and probably gay as well :DDDD realism is fake btw. Bless me
>>80668617
Oh I got mixed up sorry
>>80668796
No probs friend :D
>>80665045
damn makes you wonder his this retarded species made it to the very top of the food chain huh?
I really wish these pseudo-religious fucks on /pol/ lived in a conservative country, they'll learn fast I guess.
>>80669388
What would I learn?
Oh look, it's another, "Christains attack atheists but never attack Muslims," thread.
>>80669738
Atheists caused Muslims
>>80667756
>>80668362
>>80668617
So just because I believe in things like Evolution and the Big Bang theory which have actually scientific evidence behind them instead of some magical sky man creating the earth 6 thousand years ago which doesn't have any evidence behind it, means I deserve to die? What?
>>80669861
>Atheists caused Muslims
>>80667756
>Bruh just like look around you lol.
Fuck off, this argument is stale and old.
The same thing could be said about god.
give atheist a chance since soon lord KEK shall return and trump is his prophet.
>>80670086
When did I say you deserve to die? I said you don't twice in this thread, are all atheists as stupid as you?
>>80670108
God told us to strike down those who come to our cities and tell us to worship other Gods. Islam shouldn't exist in the west but ALL church leaders ignore the bible.
>>80670140
Tell me how many new life forms were made during 9/11, I can tell you how many were lost. The Big Bang is impossible it could never have happened
>>80670157
Don't worship false gods
>>80670108
The Muslim invasion and decay of the Traditional West that is, you fucking nation wreckers
>>80670392
>He automatically assumes I believe in the big bang.
This is why I hate Christians.
>>80670086
Wait isnt the Big Bang theory rather seen as proof for the existance of god for some christs. How does that fit together with atheists?
>>80670392
>>80670587
Atheists are less than 5% of the population. If Muslims got in it's because, "good charitable Christians," invited them.
This is why no one takes Christians seriously.
>>80670596
The majority of atheists do
>>80670649
In Europe atheists are more like 90% of the population
>>80670649
Western Christianity is Secular Humanism right now
And it's because of constant atheistic propaganda
>>80664922
Life is not deserved. I don't know if he exists or if he does. Rationally I think that it's very hard to hold the dogmas of the bible that high. But I believe in a spiritual reality as well, just an unknown one.
>>80670695
>The majority of atheists do!
Citation or blow it out your ass.
>>80670609
Christians aren't interested in consistency.
They're just trying to pressure you the same way they got pressured into it.
When they're trying to place blame it's:
>Atheists are the cause of degeneracy.
When they're trying to convert you it's:
>Degeneracy is the cause of atheism.
They always want it both ways.
So when you acknowledge that they'll tell you anything which they think might pressure you into their cult, it's much easier to just ignore them and go on about your day.
>>80664922
Come and take my life, weakling.
>>80665107
I'll be first in line. Don't have to believe in sky wizards to know purging the Muslim scourge from the planet is the only way we'll ever move forward as a species.
Also free flights back to Africa, with a 15,000 check, as long as you agree not to return for 2 generations.
>>80670919
Well what else would they believe? Oh yeah that stupid computer simulation theory everyone brings up these days
>>80670086
No real Christians actually believe that. For fucks sake, not even the early church fathers took the creation story literally
>>80667541
He won when he rose from the dead. Checkmate Pilate.
>>80671095
>Come and take my life, weakling.
Easy there mate
>>80670776
>They're 90%! We're the minority! We're just like Jews! Persecution complex!
>In Europe...
>Home of the Vatican.
>>80670820
>Western Christains are secular, too! Also propaganda!
Again, this is why I can't take you seriously. You're not even bothering to prove anything. You're just doing everything that screwed up your religion to begin with.
If Christianity if failing it's not because of atheists. It's because of Christians.
>>80670609
I don't care if you're Christian and you believe that the Big Bang theory is some kind of proof of god or that the Evolutionary process was started by god or something a long those lines.
>>80671180
Why do they deny the greatness of God? He created is it's clear as day in Genesis why do you deny it?
>>80671180
>No real Christian
>Literally no true Scotsman
>>80667756
Big Bang don't seem to me an explanation of the totality of reality. It can't tell about the causes for it, or to transcend it. I don't think it's an special event at all, nor an central one.
I firmly believe there is a lot more going on, it's just sad that we will never grasp an proper explanation for reality.
I don't know how that deep mystery means that Jesus is the literal son of God, made son of Jews. That don't mean that we all have souls, that the devil is real and that we are central elements on the creation of reality.
I'm reading the bible, the new testament, and I'm loving it. It gave me a new perspective. Spirituality is important for life, but those explanations don't resist a deeper look.
I support christianity tho, in the cultural war against degeneracy and in the rescue of western traditions.
>>80671080
Ah thanks, okay I see.
Yeah some of those christian sites also sound a bit to fanatically devoted...
>>80670609
As a Catholic, science and faith aren't mutually exclusive
>>80671230
Wow one city with 500 people, just the EU has 500 million people
>>80665045
>Of all the living organisms om the planet only humans are autistic enough to "worship" a fantasy creation.
Atheism correlates heavily with autism, actually.
>>80671211
Except I'm not silly enough to actually believe that ever happened.
>>80671403
>There are 450 million atheists in the EU.
Well, citation needed, then.
>>80671211
People can't raise themselves from the dead.
>>80671127
>This just in: Assumptions!
I don't know how the universe was created and quite frankly, I don't give a shit.
Its people like >>80671215 that drive others away from Christianity.
>>80671449
>>80670392
Christians don't go by the Old Covenant, friend. Perhaps you should read the Bible more
>>80671449
There is not any serious human answer to reality, To call the religion a stupid fantasy is to overvalue the results of science of doing the same.
It's obvious that the scientific method will never grasp an sufficient explanation for reality as well. In the end, if it makes peoples live more meaningful and happy, it's okay, on a individual level.
As a cultural force, I prefer it more than what we have now, with feminists and the lgbt shit.
>>80671373
> Superstation
> Western tradtion
Didn't we end this nonsense by now? We've been watering down Christianity for a thousand years now. Somehow we need to do the same to Islam.
>>80671298
The Genesis story is fraught with inconsistencies. Perhaps you should look at the text closer, friend.
>>80671796
Superstition**
Why do "most" /pol/ christians hate atheists?
I don´t care what you believe in, yet Christians seem to not care.
All the elite members of churches are atheists who understand the purpose and value of cults
>>80671373
>Christianity
>not degenerate
>>80671796
Christianity was an important element for the western world since the fall of the roman empire.
I, as an atheist, would gladly prefer it as a central ideology of our society, than to an empty space on the values for the liberals to fill with their filth, and to be invaded by the muslims.
>>80671901
Where is it inconsistent?
>>80672025
They do it because they secretly hate other religions but other religions will fuck their shit up. So they pick on those that really can't do anything.
It's pretty sad, tbqh.
>>80672041
It's no surprise they push so much degeneracy
>>80672066
t. dat Renaissance and Enlightenment
I'm not opposed to Christianity, it has a pretty good ethical foundation. It's the fundies that make it unworkable.
>>80665248
>tfw I want mum to make my tendies forever in heaven
>>80672066
Yeah, we call that period the dark ages for a reason. The bible is equally as backwards and barbaric as the koran. There's nothing western about an Arabic religion. As I have said - we destroyed one theocracy and now we must move on to Islam.
>>80665349
Western civilization is basically Christian, now go and drink your metho
>>80672559
>>80672066
>yfw Christianity caused the fall of Rome
>>80665345
>neutral on trannies means he supports them
>expects a billionaire to not be a playboy
Autism incarnate.
>>80664922
You sound like the extremist Muslims we hate so much. Funny what religion does to you.
>>80672125
6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
I will explain in another comment. But do you see how this is inconsistent with modern science?
>>80664922
So you're okay with Mudslimes?
>>80671373
That's because those explanations are translations of translations, made exoteric of esoteric things, of many different religions (Mithraism, Egyptian, Dionysian, and so on).
You won't ever get a grasp without personal experience into the mysteries, and for that, you need a method which doesn't exist in and of itself in Christianity. The Renaissance Hermetic magicians grafted onto Christianity a method, though, and methods still exist in the East where religion for the adept (spirituality as a science, with method) was never blacklisted as "the Occult".
>>80671373
It hasn't been a thousand years, more like a few centuries. People were being burned in the piazza just 400 years ago. Still, you are right about that. It's been put in its place, as needs Islam to be.
>>80672569
Christianity at one point conquered Rome. Just as Islam conquered Constanapolile. The goal is to purge our civilizations from these invading superstitions.
>>80672672
He shouldn't be neutral and disgusting sexual deviants who are mutilating and attacking children trying to change their genders.
And that's no excuse!
>>80672753
>funny what Abrahamic religion does to you
fixed that for ya
>>80672650
Sadly, yes it appears it added greatly to it's fall.
So, not believing in a magical sky man is suddenly WORSE than believing in a magical sky man?
Put me out of my fucking misery, /pol/.
>>80672823
No I don't see how it's inconsistent so explain
>>80672146
But are they doing it unironically? I mean, Christianity teaches that you must adopt an altruit way of life, yet these "true" christians are always advocating for le deus vult! meme.
So the christian values apply only to other christians? Honestly that seems extremely hypocrite.
Reminder that Christianity destroyed Rome and held all of Europe ins a dark age for a thousand years.
Too many atheists fall for the "Christianity is the lessest evil of the religions"-meme, but it's bullshit.
Pantheism is the least damaging religion.
>>80664922
Of course not. Living isn't something you earn, idiot.
We need to end welfare for lazy faggots, atheist and christians alike.
Religion is one of the 3 main causes for almost all of the wars throughout history. (The other 2 are money and land.)
>>80673017
>But are they doing it unironically?
Yes.
>Honestly that seems extremely hypocrite.
Yes.
If you examine them they used constant thought terminating cliches. They are in it for how they feel and base their decisions around that alone. The overwhelming majority of them do not think deeply on the subject and will attack anything that draws attention to their destructive ends to get an emotional fix.
>>80673017
I hate this deus vult meme as much as you, I don't care what those satanists do in their own country but don't come here and spread your cult.
I do think we should help Christians in these regions who's lives are at risk though.
>>80672559
I'm not calling for a return of a super strong religious institution, no one is advocating that at all.
The west have coopted the original regional elements of Christianity, as it obvious for everyone to see.
But if christianity took a central role as an ideology for the masses, we could reverse the degeneracy we are seeing.
Religion are the vessels that carry the values and the expected roles for the citizens of the nation. They program people on how to think, and how to behave. They dictate the masses and public opinion.
In this era of faggotry, transsexual, sexual hyper promotion and of tolerance of all things deviant, Christianity would be a blessing.
>>80672823
Now, on to the explanation. What is the vault, or sky as it is defined? Water above the Earth. Some describe it as a water canopy, others as simply clouds or a water vapor. Either definition will suffice.
The question is, why does it subsequently place the sun, moon and stars IN the vault/sky/water canopy? Remember, you can't explain it as being on the outside of the canopy, because it is describing these objects as in the vault.
>>80673001
Both of options are ok. The only bad option is to promote cultural degeneracy.
>>80673251
Religion is a tool for the behavior of masses, you could easily exchange that name for ideology.
By giving a sense of union, community, culture and people, they unite nations against others.
It's just our inner tribalism speaking. Religion is just an ingredient among others.
>>80673337
All you're doing is swapping one degeneracy for another.
>>80665349
>>80665664
Except that the muslim situation we're in now was caused by a christian retard who saw a vision that he needed to overthrow sadam.
All the moral decay was caused by christian boomers accepting free love bullshit.
new atheism WAS CAUSED by the moral decay brought on by christianity.
Christianity is shit. Islam is shit.
>>80673567
Christianity was the first religion to use diversity to include new members into the church, though. Other religions, at a minimum, are strict about it. So I really don't understand why you're even bothering to say this.
>>80673443
Modern liberalism is a direct conclusion to Christian values and the teachings of Christ.
>>80672877
Christianity won the conquest of ideas, Islam parasitically laid waste to Byzantium. Christianity gave a new framework for Rome to pursue in the future, and to some extent it remains, whereas Islam annihilated Byzantium. Christianity nurtures and opens new vistas for the human heart and soul, whereas barbaric Islam and atheism are complete dead ends. The Ottoman, Soviet, Red Chinese and Khmer Rouge states were end points and harbingers of completely decadent cultures, whereas Christianity opened the way to the towering European cultures of the last 1000 years
>>80673830
This.
>>80665114
if u kill ur enemy they win
.t trudeau
>>80673337
So basically if Christianity was more like Islam is now - we would have less "degeneracy." Yeah, that's what we're trying to fight against. Half of so-called 'social conservatism' is nothing but religious nonsense.
>>80665582
>t. Turkish rape baby
>>80673937
>Christianity nurtures and opens new vistas for the human heart and soul...
So diversity and liberalism?
>>80674017
Good thing I didn't vote for him
>>80674077
Social conservatism revolves around personal responsibility.
That a person is responsible for the negative consequences of their actions.
>>80673830
It's not a matter of conclusion. You can have an religion, and nationalism and conservatism at the same time. It's not about logical conclusions, but it's about national unity and coherence.
Look at Philippines. Catholic to the core. Society approve of drug dealers death.
Is this modern liberalism to you?
I argue that Christianity can be a force for a sense of national existence. I argue that it can be a force to the rescue of morality and values in our society. And I argue that this would help the cause for a push to the right wing politics and harm the leftism decadence we are seeing.
No feminism, no lgbt, no sexual deviance and no tolerance for degeneracy.
>>80673306
If anything, Christianity simply teaches moral values, christians always state that without it, one has no "moral-compass."
That is incorrect since we are aware through socialization what is correct and not.
>inb4 morality is subjective.
Either way, a few moralities are shared worldwide, for instance killing another human.
>>80673937
Who cares if those same ideas are terrible and flawed to begin with? Christianity sunk a once great and prosperous civilization that took over a thousand years to recover from. Christianity poisons the mind and was one of the original blood cults.
>>80674360
Europe has absolutely no moral values anymore since they stopped being Christian.
>>80673830
Yet all far left shills are atheist. Every single one
>>80674360
>...a few moralities are shared worldwide, for instance killing another human.
So you feel that the state should have the right to perform executions? Or cops that cops should be banned from using lethal force, even if it means they might die?
>>80674360
You get programmed by the dogma pushed by your church and by the society wide acceptance of beliefs and behaviors.
It's not about subjectivity at all. It's a factory for the mind. The same with all ideologies.
It's not made for intellectuals, who are going to wander about consequences and the meaning of the theory. It's made to guide the masses and their lives, into what an governor think it's desirable.
>>80673830
bullshit. we never threw the moneylenders out
>>80674266
Incorrect, that's finical conservatism. Things like gay marriage, abortion and drugs are all brought into a war because of holy books brought by social conservatives.
>>80674487
>stopped being Christian
You mean the church stopped being Christian. If it ever was. Because someone is going to use a No True Scotsman, every time.
>>80674481
Christianity is to blame for the fall of the Roman Empire?
>>80674310
So you advocate for Christian teachings, but do not want a strong institution behind it?
I agree with the national unity, today citizens have been divided amongst them which is concerning.
>>80672146
but the pope licks muslim feet? wut?
>>80674592
And don't forget to drop some sheckles in the donation play, goy.
>>80671215
>look at me i use sjw/christfag logic of if you disagree with me so you shouldnt exist
>>80674310
Let the Philippines modernise and become 1st world and I guarantee they will turn to liberalism.
Christian values + modernization = lefties
>>80674741
It's one of the major factors, yes.
>>80674310
>Is this modern liberalism to you?
No, but it isn't Christian either. They overturned the Old Testament.
>>80674585
I do not, I believe punishment must be used if necessary.
Security outweights personal liberties personally.
>>80664922
No one "objectively" deserves to live.
>>80664922
"Deserve" indicates that there are requirements to bet met and an entity that decides whether or not those requirements have been fulfilled.
I submit that that neither exists and that no one either does or does not deserve to live.
So why not let the individual make the decision and take responsibility?
tl/dr: Fuck you OP. You don't get to decide.
>>80674907
Christain values like sending people to hell?
>>80674553
Atheists who grew up in Christian households, or children of atheists raised in Christian households.
>>80674932
And they're doing it again in the US. And the EU.
>>80674950
Then morality about killing it's not universally held. This has been a political point of contention for decades now.
>>80674746
I don't want an super institution like the catholic church was in the middle ages.
I advocate for an promotion of christian values and christian dogmas.
>>80675070
Which is why we need to fight superstition with education.
>>80664922
yes, they do. Rasheed can't cut off your head and rape your wife because you don't follow his religion, therefore neither can you.
>>80675175
Can you please stop?
>>80673002
Not sure if you saw my response here.
>>80673373
>>80675277
With what?
>>80675186
Probably why Christians have gone out of their way to force Creationism as a scientific fact in schools alongside evolution. They know it's a threat to their powerbase if people start being rational instead of basing their decisions on emotions.
>>80674152
Not at all. These came out of French philosophy which was basically deist/atheistic. Some aspects of liberalism as it is defined, ie allowing people to do their own thing, can spring from aspects of Christianity, ie any good bits of liberalism. The idea of moral degeneracy and tolerating outright wickedness is totally anathema to Christianity. Try reading the Bible
>>80674481
Yet the so-called 'less flawed' ideas of atheism and communism were absolutely disastrous. Believers will never be able to compete with the death tolls of atheistic governments.
>>80675398
Promotion of cult values and cult dogma.
>>80671215
What's next? A fedora meme? Sick of you godfags conflating atheism with those reddit fedoralord nu-male faggots.
So, come, take it. Your sky wizard will protect you, right?
>>80675034
All the shit like that is easy to ignore. The things liberal atheists carry over from their Christian childhoods are things like:
the golden rule
all men are equal (before the eyes of god)
human life is inherently valuable
Jesus was literally the world's original hippie.
>>80675454
Why? Russia does that, and I loved the results.
>>80675417
>...can spring from aspects of Christianity, ie any good bits of liberalism.
That's nice and circular.
>Try reading the Bible
And there's the thought terminating cliche.
>atheistic governments
Those, "atheist," governments had state sponsored personality cults. The instinct to worship is the single most destructive force on the planet. It overrides thought and even moral instinct.
>>80675175
Couldn´t these values be taught in schools?
I was raised in a private school and these teachings were essential in our classes, example: Responsability, discipline, industrious etc.
I honestly do not have an issue with the values which today we lack of, but the creationist teachings do bother me, and the church as an institution is simply disgusting.
>>80671680
wow nice argument calling someone a fat cuck doesn't make your point more valid
>>80664922
NO they do not deserve to live. Atheists are the reason feminism, liberalism, Homosexuality, transgenderism, racial equality, etc. are thriving in our society. Like all agents of societal degeneracy Atheists deserve to be executed by the state.
>>80675413
Correct, they know that science and education is the enemy of religion. So they do their best to limit exposure to outside knowledge.
>>80675417
Atheism and communism share nothing in common other than that Marx the founder was an atheist. What most non-believers want is a secular or neutral government like the one we have in almost every 'western' country.
>>80664922
>do humans who have done nothing wrong deserve to live
Just because they don't subscribe to your preferred ideology doesn't make than bad people.
>>80675723
Amazing. I'm afraid you missed the point, though, because you're afraid to think things through. I'll spell it out for you.
[citation needed]
>>80664922
Philosophy cannot be objective.
>>80675718
I apologize, I DO have an issue with the lack of these values.
>>80675763
It's not even the enemy. It's just not compatible on a lot of levels and tends towards examination instead of emotional impact.
Which defeats the instinct to worship if practiced.
>>80674932
What rubbish. Christianity served to stabilize the Empire. It was the 3rd century degeneracy which weakened the Empire. The empire in the east didn't fall for another 1000 years anyway
>>80675616
Because it's unhealthy for civilization and society.
>>80675579
So you mean it's easy to ignore the core downsides of the religion? None of those concepts are original or originally from the bible.
Jesus if he existed was literally a bipolar man who chased other men away with whips and told their slaves to obey their masters.
>>80675975
Is it weird I just never had the instinct or drive to worship anything? Supernatural or otherwise?
>>80675745
Hello ISIS.
>>80671449
Cool MS Paint art. Got a real citation?
>>80675058
Not necessarily. 'Freethinking' goes back several centuries. Also, it just so happens that our societies are built on Christian values. That is why they have prospered and been the envy of humanity.
I never truly understood the dead thinking that atheist have. Do you so long for nothingness that you would void yourself?
>>80676213
>He claims worship is what created prosperity.
>Not intelligence, rationality, and the applications thereof.
>>80676277
>Be afraid!
I refuse.
>>80673251
God,Glory, and God
>>80676277
How could I void myself? That's an interesting concept.
>>80664922
Atheists have no purpose to exist but if they want to rebel against an absurd universe rather than escape it by suicide that is their choice.
>>80676100
By serve do you mean plunge it into ignorance and barbarity? They lost the means of producing roman technology and superstition became rampant. Degeneracy is a buzz word that is utterly meaningless at this point. It took another theocracy to conquer the current one. And eventuality the Hoga Sofia became a museum..like how all Churchs and Mosques should end.
>>80676368
>>80676415
The way I see it, if you believe in nothing then that is what you will be when you die. What's the harm in believing in the fantastic and maybe it exists and maybe it doesn't but it is better than believing in nothing.
>>80675413
Academia is like a brainwashing cult. Anyone that goes in there is bound to be brainwashed with the following unchallangeable ideas
1. Moral degeneracy
2. Drugs is good
3. God is fake
4. SJWdom is necessary
5. Materialistic creation theories
Its all part of the Satanic plan
>>80675653
They were fundamentally atheistic, but they saw that this had no effect on their people. Just because a desire is powerful and primal doesn't mean it is ipso facto good or bad, it is just powerfully hardwired. People tend to worship, even if increasingly we are being forbidden to worship deities.
When religion is banned by the cryptofascist SJW zombie hordes, it will be replaced by something secular, I am sure of this.
Typically with mendacious, dishonest atheists, you try to create a false dichotomy. Atheists always worship something or someone, invariably it is Satan by a different name or names, whether wittingly or unwittingly
>>80676522
Christians don't have a purpose to live. Death for you results in eternal bliss.
For an Atheist, it results in eternal non-existence.
The universe isn't that bad of a place to be in, you edgy faggot.
>>80676277
I don't understand theists. How can you believe in concepts like the afterlife when there's no evidence?
>>80676522
Does belief in God make him real?
>>80676618
Those are some nice thought terminating cliches you got there.
>>80676642
Yeah, all stemming from the instinct to worship. I should also point out universities are a Christian invention.
>When religion is banned by the cryptofascist SJW zombie hordes...
Yeah, that sounds exactly like the kind of rationality I want. Stopped reading.
>>80675763
All communist systems were atheist, you shameless lying weasel
>>80676642
So...you have evidence for a deity? Great, please present it.
>>80676642
>1. Moral degeneracy
?
>2. Drugs is good
Depends on the drug
>3. God is fake
irrelevant
>4. SJWdom is necessary
also irrelevant
>5. Materialistic creation theories
Which Christians and creationists also embrace.
>>80676752
>Those are some nice thought terminating cliches you got there.
Believe in nothing if you wish, that's just how I see you atheist.
>>80676670
>Implying Absurdism is in anyway related to theism
>>80676722
There is no such thing as "hope" so your question is illogical.
>>80676758
Maybe English isn't your first language? Let's try this again - there is no connection between atheism or communism beyond Marx himself being atheist. There's no evidence for a deity and I still like private property.
>>80676213
Literally all the core foundations of western society come from Greek and Roman foundations.
Notice how Europe was the great until Christianity came around, then turned to shit, and finally restored it's glory when the Renaissance came around?
The Renaissance where classical ideas were rediscovered, and societies started moved away from Christianity.
>>80676902
The problem is you're not actually believing anything because you refuse to even address the concept of the claims you say you uphold.
>>80676618
Pascal's wager after the year 1750?
If you can arbitrarily choose belief in something, you don't actually believe it. You're just telling yourself you do.
The same logic would also work for any religion that says "If you believe in our god, you get better shit than what the Christian's god will give you, and if you don't, you'll get worse torture than what the Christian's god would give you."
>>80676605
They lost technology
They built the Hagia Sophia
I'd guess you are retard level stupid, although you could just be completely historically ignorant.
There is no evidence that the rise of Christianity led to an immediate significant loss of technology. In any case, Rome wasn't a massive consumer or producer of technology as such. They had complex engineering processes, some of which we may not be fully currently aware.
The decline in technological prowess in the west was entirely due to Germanic invasions, the Germanics having no real technology to speak of whatever.
Is there any other subject you'd like me to educate you about? I hope you don't routinely expose this level of complete buttfuck ignorance on every subject you spout on about
>>80677064
With Pascal's Wager the only winning move is not to play, ironically.
>>80676906
>>Implying Absurdism is in anyway related to theism
Absurdism concludes that accepting the absurdity of the universe and 'just dealing with it' is the way to go about living, you illiterate moron.
If it isn't related in any way to theism, which was sort of my point, why are you bringing it up? It's just tangential.
>>80664922
Only the "MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVE" ones.
t. atheist who believes in objective morality
>>80676618
Actually when your dead it doesn't matter. It only matters in the here and now how you perceive things and what you believe. When your dead, your previous thoughts and actions have no impact on you, because you are dead.
Now, if your belief makes you a better person in the here and now, go for it. At the end of the day though, I think everyone really aspires for a good life now.
>>80665687
You're the only religions citizen I've seen that uses the correct Yahweh and Yeshua. Doin' the Lord's work anon.
>>80677064
>>80677196
>Pascal's Wager
Huh, didn't know that was a thing.
>>80677279
>t. atheist who believes in objective morality
Thanks for telling us you're a retarded teenager.
>>80677217
>personal attacks
Clearly you do not know of what you speak anon. Also you are the one who is "illiterate." You called me a Christian. top kek.
>>80677367
I wouldn't expect a christfag to have read anything that isn't on a mom's home cooking blog. :^)
>>80677127
Yes, they lost technology. As in they stared at aqueducts and didn't know how the fuck to operate them. The Hagia Sophia while beautiful doesn't take "complex engineering" to construct.
The Germans who invaded were some of the earliest converts. They rose to power and became the new age relgion of the people they wanted to rule.
Yes - educate me on why someone from a first world country like yourself is such an idiot? Then, you can provide me with evidence for a deity.
>>80677367
Yeah, it was thoroughly debunked a while ago.
>>80677436
It's hilarious to me that you can believe in a God but not objective morality can exist without a God.
>>80676990
All atheists, virtually without exception, at least nearly every public atheist or 'freethinker' before about 1980 had communist leanings. Marxism was a religion of kinds, and Marx himself was a prophet. Atheism was at its core. Religion was officially 'the opium of the masses'. Marxism was a political expression of atheism, and murders were carried out in the name of propagating atheism. But slippery sjws and atheists, just like muslims, say they dindu nuffin because they don't haz an atheist pope and sheiit, therefore the fact that the greatest genocides in history were carried out by atheists in the name of atheism by entirely atheistic systems has nothing to do with atheism. 'Real' atheism will be carried out by modern weaboos and youtube vloggers, who in striving for political power will be much more rational and moderate
>>80677700
So, you're saying the instinct to worship is dangerous?
>>80677497
>Calls an insult appended to the end of a sentence a personal attack.
>Then proceeds to make personal attacks.
You don't look smart because you stopped using contractions, kek. Stop being pretentious on the internet, and stop with the desperate obfuscations using deprecated syntax.
>>80677551
>mom's home cooking blog
Try VNs or Manga. You atheist types always come off as the ones with a superiority complex.
>>80665930
I think what OP was trying to say was that if atheists are right, then there are no gods and technically No-one has don't anything to deserve the sentience they have.
>people are still unironically religious.
I can't wait til this shit dies out.
>>80677279
There is no objective morality.
There are some things most moral codes agree like murder is wrong, stealing is wrong, etc. But the specifics will vary depending on the geography and the culture of a population (justifiable crime, war, atheism, religious freedom, freedom of speech, marriage, woman's rights, etc).
>>80677608
>It's hilarious to me that you can believe in a God but not objective morality can exist without a God.
Yeah, totally not like someone could disagree with you without being a Christfag boogeyman, right?
/pol/ is shit.
>>80677024
Absolute fucking bullshit you uneducated inbred. The Renaissance was just as fervently Christian as what preceded it. Dante preceded the Renaissance, as did the glories of Byzantine art, music and architecture.
Europe if anything became more religious after the Renaissance than before, until the later 18th century
>>80664922
No, they should be put through re-education systems to clear their mind of all the leftist marxist brain washing.
Atheists are more dangerous than muslims and we let them roam around with their potential terrorist mentalities.
>>80677842
>Try VNs or Manga.
That's not really much better.
>You atheist types always come off as the ones with a superiority complex.
Calm down, lad, I'm just giving you a rough time. Why are you guys always so sensitive?
>>80665992
Because once they learn that their god doesn't exist they don't really have much left. It's like losing a limb or a friend.
>>80677963
Citation needed. Niggers and Christians are both larger groups than Atheists or Muslims in terms of committing any given crime at all.
>>80677839
You're just not that smart bud. It's okay. This place I am going to link is perfect for pseudo intellectuals like yourself: https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/
>>80677949
Maybe more religious overall, but less Christian in the intellectual philosophy.
>>80677606
Have you heard of the Aqueduct of Valens you fucking imbecilic retard?
Have you heard of the city of Constantinople? How was it watered?
Please read a book (if you can read) and then you might be able to provide something slightly factual to this debate, rather than the less than nothing which you're currently providing
>>80677947
Oh? You want to make this about you? Fine. What do you believe then? I'm sure you can rationally defend it, right, instead of wallowing in vague emotion-based responses? Right?
Fact is any Christfag that says God is real then rejects objective morality as real without God is missing the point altogether. Both have the exact same level of provability.
Christianity is pure evil.
>>80678223
Militant atheists should be outed to the govt by their friends for a reward and they will be tattoo'd on their faces with a number just to keep society safe and functional.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1mKVYtJMf4
>>80677700
> All atheists, virtually without exception, at least nearly every public atheist or 'freethinker' before about 1980 had communist leanings.
We can reject that premise off the bat. Atheists are older than all the world religions.
> Marxism was a religion of kinds, and Marx himself was a prophet. Atheism was at its core
Also made up and not founded by evidence. You're trying to make metaphors and then pull them into real life.
> Religion was officially 'the opium of the masses'. Marxism was a political expression of atheism, and murders were carried out in the name of propagating atheism
Marx did say religion was the opium of the masses and he was correct. The soviet regime did not kill 'in the name of atheism' that's just more bullshit propaganda.
> But slippery sjws and atheists, just like muslims, say they dindu nuffin because they don't haz an atheist pope and sheiit, therefore the fact that the greatest genocides in history were carried out by atheists in the name of atheism by entirely atheistic systems has nothing to do with atheism.
Incorrect, Islam and Christianity tell you directly to fight apostates and non-believers even calling for their deaths. There is no atheist dogma that sets up for us to 'kill anyone.' We don't have a holy book or take orders from up high.
> Real' atheism will be carried out by modern weaboos and youtube vloggers, who in striving for political power will be much more rational and moderate
There is no 'real' atheism. You either believe in a deity or you don't. Because there's no evidence we must reject the theistic claim. Has nothing to do with politics.
>>80677828
Potentially, just as the instinct to love. Also the instinct to protect onesself and one's family. But these instincts are also very powerful. As I listen to one of the Bach Passions, and I realize that all the greatest arts of history were inspired by the spiritual impulse, and primarily by Christianity
