>Become a welder he said
>It's in high demand he said
>Became a welder I did
>Was hard finding a job at first it was
>Got a job TIG welding stainless steel I did
>3000$ a month starting it is
Not bad Rowe, not bad.
---------Hey guys, I started this thread earlier this morning but I had to go to work--so I will answer some questions as to how I got the job---
I researched and went to the best welding school in the country--got gov' student loans--and studied my ass off to get 90% in most of my classes.
When time came to apply for the job, I included my transcript in the email attachments.
This has gotten me two jobs.
Hope this helps.
>>80650932
>$3000 a month
that's not...that good
do underwater welding if you want shekels
>$3000/month
wew lad
lmao even I earn more than that.
>>80651172
THIS. USN salvage divers are so sought after, it's not even funny.
And the $$$ is retarded.
Was going to post in the last thread, for all the anons looking for a good trade check out Instrumentation. Good money and not hard on the back.
>>80650932
I'm a pencil pusher at an insurance firm that I got with a fucking associates degree in Communications and I make more than that
>>80650932
I make $3,000/week stuffing envelopes at home.
>>80651105
Maybe if you live in jew york, faggot.
I asked this earlier as well, but I'm joining the Navy in the Seabees as a UT, for anyone who knows what that is. Is it possible I could get some underwater diving certs while in along with welding, and even without that, can I expect some cushy tradesmen jobs when I get out? Trying to figure out my life plan here.
I'm going to get paid $3,000 a month to teach English part time in Japan. Enjoy your manual labour, prole.
>>80651564
please explain further
>>80650932
Leaf fag: Congrats on the job. We need more workers, people who get their hands dirty and build stuff. I wish you success in your career.
>>80651806
Robots can do all that for cheaper, longer and safer.
>>80651105
It's $4000 more than you make.
>>80651105
66k per year beats most starting pay jobs gor college educated, the upper limit he can reach is a more realistic indicator
>>80650932
You can do better OP, I know some specialty welders that make well over $200,000 a year
>>80651725
Send me 500$ and I will teach you the secret to making 3,000 a week on /pol/
>>80651925
$3000 a month is $36.000 per year
>>80650932
How do you deal with that black snot shit? I fucking hated that crap when i did welding.
>>80651105
It is when you have no student loan debt and don't live in San Fagcisco where you pay 2500 a month for a cardboard box.
>>80651571
>>80652677
>>80651925
Good luck trying to raise a family with such low pay
>>80651666
In the navy you do a really dumbed down version of whatever it is you think you will doing, so dont get your hopes up
>>80651105
66k per year starting is only a little less than what you make starting at the lower rungs at Google and Intel as an engineer.
>>80652768
Good luck not being a fag
>>80650932
good trade! do you work in industrial?
>>80652818
>he thinks 3k a month = 66k a year
>>80650932
$750 a week. Have fun working for $15/hr before taxes. Even street cleaners make more.
>>80651894
ayyy the leaf bringing the bantz.
>>80652137
....before tax
>>80651105
>66k starting for 4 months certification
Yeah pull out a student loan from Mr shecklestein. Get a "degree" like a good goy
>>80651666
If you go work for 'Con-Ed' in NYC, you'll make good $
If you work for Halliburton, you'll make stupid $
Try to find someone who did that for more than 6 years, and ask them, what C school you go for to increase your options on the outside.
>>80650932
Kek. I make half of that.
But I have no college degree.
And it's a comfy government job at an office, with flexible schedules, air conditioner in summer and heating in winter.
You actually bust your ass for a shit wage.
I have a shitty high school education and I'm making half of what you do and using all my free time to get a real degree. (Oil Engineering)
Your advice is pretty shitty anon.
how much it took to get a degree in
>welding school
i wish i could make 3000 for such job here ayyyyy
You guys should recall, OP is a fellow canuck like myself. Thusly, a huge part of his paycheque will go to Trudeau and his makeawish refugees. OP makes about 28,000 cad/yr or 20,000 eagle dollars.
>>80653177
Seeing how you cannot into basic math you should probably take that student loan m8
>>80651925
>>80651925
>$3000/month
>66k
Lol, check out Arnold Einstein over here.
>>80653177
You cant even multiply. Yes, please take out loans and don't pay them back you fuckwit. Trash our economy some more.
>>80653241
Gotcha, were you in the service or are you just well informed? Also I've heard there are a lot of job opportunities on oil rigs, is there any certs I should look at getting to secure a job on those? (I've heard they make retarded high amounts of pay)
>>80653365
You can always work as a shill for Putin on the internet. That might pay well.
>>80651564
>this is a clever euphemism for gay porn
>he doesn't weld pipe
>he doesn't do nuclear grade welding/fitting
fuck off scrubs leave welding to the pros
>>80653712
whats nuclear grade welding?
>>80653677
>That might pay well
no, they get average salary for their region(less than 1000 usd kek)
>>80653679
>i'd stick it in your mailbox
>>80653890
$1000 a month sounds good. Is Russia that expensive? You can make a normal living here from $1000 if you dont have a family. I live in central Budapest and an apartment here costs $300-400 a month. Food $200 max. From the rest you can drink yourself to death.
>>80651521
>And the $$$ is retarded.
So is the rate of workplace accidnets resulting in death.
>>80654107
Nah that's a meme. OSHA put a stop to that years ago.
>>80652102
Sold, just post your address please
>>80650932
Shit.
I only make $2,000 a month washing stuff in a sink.
>>80653824
http://work.chron.com/nuclear-cleared-welders-28458.html
It's a lot of bullshit but It's a six figure Job
>>80654090
>apartment here costs $300-400 a month
same shit but result will be some commeblock flat with shit neighbours on the edge of the city(when the road to workplace take around
or more than hour)
id say average paid pro gobernmen poster is paid aroun 50000 roubles now( 1 us dollar is 64 roubles)
>>80651869
No, they can't. If it was possible to do it more cheaply and better, that is what the companies would use. Businesses will not intentionally use a more costly and poorer quality method of manufacturing. Are you actually retarded, or just pretending to be for attention? Ever hear of the industrial revolution? Cost accounting? Anything like that? If a business can get something done better, and more cheaply, they will do so.
>>80650932
Are you in a union?
>Taking advice from an opera singer
>>80653632
I was a main propulsion engineer(gas turbines), I don't really know much about the CB's,
Try and connect with a UTC(E7), and ask them what path you should take.
OR, you could contact a head hunter(civilian recruiter), and ask them what is always in demand.
And yes, oil rig is good, but, it's not an easy life.
I talked to a guy about 20 years ago, when I was getting out, and he said it's 3 weeks on the rig, and 3 weeks off.
The rotation has prolly changed somewaht, but that'll give you an idea.
saved up enough money and finally going to go to a coding bootcamp and get a comfy job as a developer.
been working retail for last 6+ years, its horrible but im glad its finally over.
>>80654389
I make $2200/month working for the government as a biologist, and that's only during the field season.
I get to do a lot of cool shit, but I have to look for a job every 6 months. I've been doing it for 3 or 4 years now and feel like I'm getting dicked around.
OP welding in the left.
>>80651523
>took 2 year instrumentation engineering technology course at a tech school
>1 year after graduation still can't find a job
Fell for the oil meme, going to university instead fuck this shit
>>80654500
I was saying that as a context of "we need more workers". We certainly don't. Unless you dont give a shit about your job security. In the next 10-20 years a LOT of manual labor is gonna get automated and shit ton of workers will have to find new jobs.
The only safe place as far as low skilled labor go is to be in the service/hospitality industry. Welders, dock workers, truck drivers etc. arent safe jobs.
>>80654787
You dont need to get into a bootcamp. Just learn coding, check out hackathons and interviewbits and contribute to open source.
You'll find a job in a year.
You can thank me later for saving your money. Dont fall for the coding bootcamp jews.
>>80655194
And neither is pushing papers with a liberal arts degree. That creates no wealth. Building and growing things humans need is real wealth. Oil rigs, cars, televisions, oil, wheat, beef, buildings - these are wealth. Paper pushers do not create it.
You canucucks are recruiting machining professionals overseas because apparently you can't find decent machinist in your own turf.
Too bad I left the machining business years ago (being a mechanical designer is much better), Canacucks could use my cultural enrichment.
>>80653350
ñoqui
>>80655462
No they just hire foreigners because you work for shit wages
Mike Rowe wasn't beaten up enough as a kid
>>80654980
Do you collect neetbucks after field season?
>>80651925
>American education
lmao @ your dirty, stinkin', weldin' ass.
You know why you get paid a good wage? Because you're inhaling nasty fumes and hurting your eyes at your job, mayne.
I make way less than you but my job doesn't harm my health.
Me > you.
>>80652431
Let your nose hairs thrife and don't do stick/flux core welding.
Tig is bretty clean welding--especially stainless steel.
The only time I get black snot is from grinding from extended periods of time.
>>80655456
The good thing about a degree is that you are (or people believe you are) flexible. You proved that you have the ability to learn complex things in an abstract way.
You can shit ton of things with a business degree for example. You can work in sales, be a social media manager, be a business development manager, work for a startup as a growth hacker and 1000 other things.
The thing is, the knowledge requiring these are not something you actually learn at university. But they're supposed to teach you how you can learn things which you actually use, how to gather information and so on.
>>80653094
Actually it's after tax.
>>80655533
Say what leaf ? the wages are the same for locals.
They do this kind of recruiting because it's damn hard to find good experienced machinist especially those who work in five axis CNC machines, even here in hueland it's helluvah hard to find them.
>>80654529
No.
>>80654777
Gotcha, thanks for the info m8. Is a UTC just a UT but a petty officer?
Bigfoot is best, it is
>>80655489
Ñoqui es el que no trabaja amigo
A esos los echaron.
Yo cumplo horario y hago mis tareas.
Pero no voy a negar que es /comfy/ comparado con un soldador como el OP.
>>80655859
During the oil boom they would hire foreigners and pay them dirt, for example they would hire Croatian welders and pay them $14/h, which is what they pay at mcdonalds
All the good machinists are probably retired baby boomers, nobody was trained to replace them as our manufacturing industry is basically dead
>>80656206
How so ?
you still have big companies like Bombardier and all the small industries that supplies them.
>>80656206
>r example they would hire Croatian welders and pay them $14/h, which is what they pay at mcdonalds
They busted them hard for doing this, and deported all the croats.
>>80656330
It still exists but it's a shadow of its former self, bombardier only exists because they're subsidized by the government and our car industry will probably be moved to Mexico within the next 10 year
>>80656339
I know a canadian company which is full of slavs, I think the owner is a slav and only hires other slavs from the balcans.
They make pretty good molds though, I think they are called Top Grade Molds or something, the competitors of the company I used to work bought molds from them.
http://www.topgrademolds.com/
I make 3 times that as an Hvac/r service tech. Plus a company truck and smartphone.
>>80656020
UTC is Chief Petty Officer for the UT rating
Enlisted ranks are E-1 through E-9
E-1 is lowest, E-9 is highest
You'll learn all this in boot camp at Great Lakes.
If you can, go in the spring or early fall
The winters up there are fucking brutal!
Good luck
>>80652818
But then you have to work at google, lol.
>>80654107
>he's never worked a manual labor job
>>80656782
Ha thanks man, I don't think I'll be that lucky. Likely leaving October-November, but thanks for the warning.
I have panic attacks and violently freak out if things around me get too a)hot b) fast-paced or c)stressful.
What do you guys recommend?
>>80651925
what did you mean by this?
>>80655194
I don't think you've worked any of those jobs then hahaha. I guarantee you welding anywhere outside of a very controlled factory floor isn't going to be automated any time soon
>>80651724
Well, he'll at least accomplish something for his work.
You'll be getting paid to not actually teach nips English.
>>80655652
>the sad cubicle worker sees a glimmer of light in his miserable life
>then goes back to being trapped in his box for the rest of his life with no tangible skills or products.
>>80651172
*and a death-wish
t. frm navy diver
>>80651564
ODD how many normies are on this site.
This guy means he's a vendor for the darknet markets and sells drugs via mail service. Good money but hard part is converting the bitcoins back to cash without getting caught.
>>80657159
More easy going trade jobs like plumbing are for you, a lot of the jobs like welding or construction/engineering have potential to get loud and sometimes dangerous.
>>80650932
after how much time will you get a rise?
and how much will you make a month after?
is it hard?
Mile Rowe really said that?
>>80655721
Nigger do you even understand hexavalent chromium? I hope you're using a PAPR
>>80650932
Don't let the NEETs hound you about your starting pay - it's not bad for an entry level tradesman.
I'm an electrician and our starting pay is about the same, but you can make 3-6x more if you specialize.
>>80657389
I forgot to add d) claustrophobic
>>80652768
Niggers do it on food stamps and you can't manage with 3k a month? What are you afraid of limp-wrist? Not having enough extra dosh for degenerate anime and vidya hobbies?
>>80657410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzKzu86Agg0
Listen to the gospel, jew.
>>80657425
Where the hell do they use those meme materials like Hastelloy, Inconel or such ?
I only hear bad thing about it, hard to weld, ahrd to machine, hard to work with, expensive...
>>80657159
>>80657389
>>80657463
One time I had an office job and my manager came up and started yelling at me that I didn't staple the papers in the proper order or something so I slapped his coffee out of his hand busted my keyboard on my desk and walked out.
>>80657616
>comparing yourself to a nigger
>>80657381
Selling drugs is for niggers. Huge risk in comparison to the amount you make from it.
>>80651925
STOP EMBARRASSING THE REST OF US
>>80657425
Who doesn't understand hexavalent chromium?
>>80657347
At least I will still be able to see when I am 60 years old.
>>80651869
Robots are good for repetitive simple tasks. Welding is an art, and unique /small orders will always need human hands.
>>80656160
que haces exactamente?
>>80652677
san gayciscan here.
you need ambition to live here.
that plus a welder or construction worker makes easly twice that here.
>>80658106
That shit will fuck you up. We had one of our welders welding some stainless on a parking garage job he did, and he didn't check his respirator before he started welding. 5 minutes of it and he has to have an oxygen bottle for the rest of his life.
>Be me 19 yrs old
>Go to college she said
>Became Cable Installer I did
>Dump me she did
>8 Years later ICT Technician certified out >the ass and making 80k.
>Her 150k in debt makin 35k
>Her come back after 8 years.
>Admits shes retarded
>Me rawdog her all I want, she keep >opinions to herself and make me >sandwich
>>80658143
What are you talking about burguer ?
it's pretty obvious that you never ever put you feet in a workshop judging by all the bullshit you're saying.
Hur dur, you're going blind if you weld too much...
what are masks ? what are protection glasses ?
>>80654318
They put a stop to the effects high pressures have on bones and organs?
>>80657855
Don't be so sensitive and get thicker skin, only women are so easily insulted. You won't make it in trades with that attitude, it's a mostly male field and you will likely feel trapped under all the banter.
>>80658143
>what are auto darkening welding hoods
You really don't get outside much huh.
Or do anything that involves work.
>>80657701
You still didn't answer my questions, goy.
>>80651338
Unless you want to live like a retard nigger in the city, $3k is plenty to live the Varg lifestyle in a nice countryside area.
I guess if you're a materialistic swine it'd be hard to survive though. The day of the rope can't come soon enough.
>>80657725
They use them in valves/pipelines and shit because of their resistance to corrosion
>>80658603
I'm tired Hebey Kikelyberg--im going to wank and go to sleep (and I'll wake up at 5am).
>>80658516
I'm used to banter on 4chan, I banter with my friends all the time. I can't stand it when someone acts better than me over stupid shit like that in a serious manner and gets mad about it and shit. Like he was literally yelling at me over the order I stapled the papers in, spit coming out of his mouth.
DID ROWE worked at any time of his life in Manual labor jobs?(except in his show)
>>80658480
Is this sarcasm?
>>80657159
>hot
>fat-paced
>stressful
Jesus. Am I returning to /pol/ only to find that human twinkies have taken over?
>>80655194
lmao, because everyone can afford an expensive robot with accurate working limbs to do physical stuff.
meanwhile humanities fags will get replaced by software bots supervisioned by one person at most.
>>80658802
I have an issue with that sort of shit as well...
Even if I have to make myself to look like an asshole I refuse to let a man belittle me directly or through inversion.
>>80658424
>8 years passed
>You went back to some bitch who dumped you because you wanted to be a cable guy?
Your may may was shit, and you're a fucking cuck.
>>80658909
I should probably be on /r9k/ but I don't like being reminded of what a failure I am. I'm at least making the effort, you know?
I just started doing building maintenance. Anyone know if this is a good field?
>pay sucks
>10k benefits though
I'm 36 and had to start over because of muh replacement.
>>80659095
>I'm at least making the effort, you know?
What effort? Have you gone outside today?
>>80659055
Yeah I'll never forget the look on his face like he thought I was going to pull out a gun or something. He'd probably never had that happen to him before. They didn't even deduct the keyboard from my paycheck, though I can no longer apply through that temp agency.
>>80658143
So whats it like being a sheltered little bitch?
>mfw i tig mig and stick daily
>mfw still perfect vision
>>80659218
>outside
I don't do that unless I have a reason.
I went outside yesterday to take the pellet gun to one of that cats that gets in my garbage.
>>80658223
Controlador de Trafico Aereo
Es muy estresante porque son horas sin parar, no te podes equivocar, pero estas bajo techo y calentito. Hay que saber buen inglés y hacer un curso.
Can jet fuel really melt steel beams?
>>80659293
save this nonsense for your diary. i've lost interested.
>>80650932
>being a retarded tradie
>any year
>>80658754
>and I'll wake up at 5am
god goy
just kidding I know that feel of getting up at 5 am.
>>80659498
I don't keep a diary, nothing really happens to me and my thoughts all revolve around food sex and games.
>>80657159
Toughen up, seriously.
When I found my first job I was the most autistic human being on earth, living among the common hard working folk who don't give a shit about your feelings because they know that there are far more problems in the world than a fucking pansy panic attack or social anxiety freak, I have to thank my dad too for saying that I should either find myself a job or GTFO, back in the day I hated him for it, but now I know he was right.
>>80659345
como fue trabajar durante los kirchnner?
habia señales de corrupcion donde vos estabas?
un amigo me comento metieron un monton de ñoquis en aorolineas argentinas.
>>80659611
Dude......
Suicide...
>>80651564
This is a meme from an old scam campaign to get people to send in $20 to learn how to make money stuffing envelopes.
>>80655194
"Low skilled labor"
Spoken like a true self absorbed cunt.
Working management is one of the easiest things in the world just like HR and other stupid bureaucratic jobs like that. And like people have previously said not all weldjobs can be automated, the ones that can be automated have been for years now.
>>80659742
But I don't want to go to hell. I hate it enough here.
>>80659621
I've tried, but every job I get sends me into a rage attack so I either get fired or sent home to calm down and never come back due to embarrassment. You think I want to be this way?
>>80659084
Whatever you say lol.
>>80659084
To be clear i'm not sure my career choice had anything to do with her dumping me.
>>80659441
No, but it can warp steel beams causing the building attached to said beams to crumble.
>>80659869
Well in that case, it seens that you have no other choice than to use the pharmaceutical jew to try to keep your nerves down.
That will keep you from having a job in the industry though, benzos and heavy machinery can be a deadly combination.
![Historical_median_personal_income_by_education_attainment_in_the_US[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/CRw6Eye.png "Historical_median_personal_income_by_education_attainment_in_the_US[1].png")
>>80651105
>>80651278
>>80651564
>>80652137
FACTS TIME.
36,000 annual income is slightly above the median annual income of a working american. That means that 50% of the population makes less than you and slightly less than 50 makes more.
36k is obviously not amazing, but its not terrible either. Its actually pretty average. Assuming OP follows the standard income trends for his trade he should make more money than the average college graduate until they have both been working for 10 years. Because of student dept he will have higher take-home pay for 14 total years. And will have a much higher take home in the first 5. HOWEVER, after 10 years the college graduate will surpass him in income and the gap between them will continue to grow until retirement age. On average a college graduate earns almost 1 million dollars more over the course of their working life. However. due to the delayed income pattern of college graduates Op has the opportunity to invest much earlier and that can easily make up the difference + more.
OP chose well.
>>80650932
I make $6k a month trading stocks, bonds & currencies. Started studying when I was 15. Hit the books guys or hit up a job in demand. The hustle is real
>>80659557
Careful, don't want to lose any Good Boy Points, do you NEET?
>>80659735
Donde yo estoy no habÃa ñoquis porque es un area muy sensible. No puede trabajar cualquiera y no puede haber errores o gente que falte.
Pero en otras areas sacaron gente si.
La empresa que maneja las valijas en Ezeiza... Intercargo... ahi estaba el nido de ñoquis y corrupción más grande.
>>80659621
What the fuck am I looking at? How did that not fucking spontaneously disassemble the second time it was fired? How did whomever was using this manage to fire 7 fucking shots before noticing? That's at minimum one reload. Jesus Christ.
>>80660437
Being a NEET is better than being some sad wagie with an arm deep in another man's toilet.
Now I'm confused.. Is welding a good career to get into?
>>80660220
I smoke weed to control it now but that also keeps me from working many jobs as it's quite obvious when I've smoked enough to not feel that way.
>>80660434
What books did you read?
>>80650932
I make $13K a month and have far less useful skills than you do. The world is a cruel place.
redpill me on economists /pol/
>Be me
>Be 32
>Went to Uni, bought all the bullshit my teachers pushed 'just get a degree, anon'.
>Take history
>Realize by second year I'm wasting my time.
>Become depressed.
>Leave after three years.
>Travel world.
>Join military full time.
>Do something that most people would refuse to do.
>Love it.
>Make $70,000 maple bucks.
>Do degree I want on the side.
>Sky is the limit.
My upper ceiling before I retire will likely be $120,000, so I'm looking elsewhere because I know I can do better.
>>80662205
Are you a dentist?
Should I do accounting, become an electrician, or computer and information systems?
>>80662551
Dentists still contribute more to the world than I do. I work in a non-clinical healthcare role.
>>80660680
This was intentional to demonstrate the performance of the barrel
>>80660224
I used to make well researched posts like this. Then I became apathetic and just shitpost now
>>80660702
>living in a fantasy works and wafting my life on anime is better than learning tangible, permanently relevant skills and supporting yourself and your happy family.
Do NEETs actually believe this?
>>80662503
Canadians have an army? What do you even do? Hop on a moose and go fight geese?
>>80651724
Are you going to teach for high school students? Its a pain where I live, I wanna switch so bad, My colleagues are a pain to deal with. How do you get a visa to go teach in Japan
>>80663050
In my experience no, it's just a shell we hide behind to hide the crushing emptiness of our lives.
I didn't leave the bed today until a few hours ago. I had food all prepared and next to my bed and I only poop at night, which is why I got out of bed. I at least empty my urine bottles every day.
>>80659818
Welding, or fucking lifting shit is "low skilled" because literally anyone can learn it. I could learn to weld in a couple of months, and work in a warehouse in a couple of weeks.
Now to be a doctor, chemist, or a manager or a chef you need special knowledge and experience which is not easy to get.
That's why they pay more in the first place.
My 8 year old niece understands this shit anon.
>>80662887
MSL?
>>80663129
Basically this.
Sometimes Beavers are involved.
>>80662503
Did you go in Navy or army?
Do you need to have steady hands for this?
>>80655012
Kek
>>80662887
Well I'm not a detective. If you're not going to just talk aboot yourself then I'm done asking you questions.
>>80663050
You bet I do. Better not shitpost too late, wagie. Your Jewish boss will be upset if you're late tomorrow.
>>80663271
>I could learn to weld in a couple of months
you might learn the basics, but it takes more than a few months to get good.
>I've been welding 20 years, still learning new things most weeks
>>80655012
Is that only aesthetic or is there a difference in endurace as well?
>>80662887
did obongo hire you?
Welding can be an awesome career.
I'll be certified master in less than a year myself, and I'll be able to fully retire before age 41.
1. I have no student loans to pay back
2. I have no blood-sucking women on my ass or kids
3. I invest in diversified stocks and other finances
4. I already OWN two vehicles and two homes
5. My boss fakes my drug tests because he DGAF as long as I don't come to work intoxicated
6. I make almost $100K/y(take-home $68,000+/-)
Now, if only we could stop the government parasite from stealing from my paycheck.
>>80650932
Youre doin good man. Keep it up.
>>80660434
6k a month trading...jesus christ...youre bragging about this shit? I wont even tell you what I make since you won't believe it, but since 27 I have made over 350k a year selling securities for JP Morgan. I have a shit office in a branch, but get 35% of my revenue which has been over 1 million now for a few years.
>>80650932
Don't you go blind at like 50 from it?
>>80664174
>>80664298
Most welders go into weld checking after a while. The reason welding is in such high demand is because there's a lot of robotic welding and they need people to patch shit up after it comes off the line. It's pretty comfy actually.
I'm going into the military to get spec pay and save for a house but my last job paid like 75k a year+40k in OT pay to weld checkers and off line welders. The only downside is you'll be working a lot of (paid) overtime so if you don't like that, it's not too fun
>>80664164
Can't you burguers receive payment under the table ? or is it too risky ?
I'm currently receiveing 'under the table', and I keep all that hard earned money for myself instead of giving part of it for the government, however my employer and I could get in trouble if the government somehow found out about it (i.e someone snitched it), but they rarely investigate so I'm perfectly fine.
>>80663950
Would you recommend welding as a career? It seems like its a safe career that won't be overtaken by automation.
>>80664734
Also yes, its shit on your eyes but not from what you'd think. It's mostly from dumbfucks tac welding and it having a bad effect in the long run
>>80664734
Also yes, its shit on your eyes but not from what you'd think. It's mostly from dumbfucks tac welding without a mask and it having a bad effect in the long run
How does everyone find such high paying jobs?
>>80663988
The difference in strength is huge, if you were to try and break a weld full of holes like that one the holes would "collapse" making it easier to bend, and a hole is a great place for a crack to start.
But then again what does a low skill welder like me know.
>>80664164
What area of the US and what type of welding field are you in? It's something I'm very interested in.
>>80664919
Lie on the internet or be a total autist in high school without many friends and study a lot.
It's actually hard to find an American tier salary job in Canada if you aren't an engineer or work a lot of overtime.
Shit the GM of my company made less than weld checkers do if you take overtime into account.
Quick question, what about welding inspectors ?
do they gain well in US or Canada ?
in Brazil, welding inpsectors gain a shitload of money, but the courses and the equipment are quite expensive.
>>80664932
Well now I know it too. Probably could google it as well. Good luck googling how to manage a company as a "useless manager".
>>80664174
Lol yeah the money isnt in trading. Its into selling to the traders
>go to school
>do terrible and leave
>go back to a for profit
>do terrible, aqcuire debt and leave
>go back to school
>currently doing terrible and about to leave
Im gonna lose my tuition aide and i cant afford it with my shit part time job.
Im falling into a depression and want the ride to end.
>>80664932
And this is just a few of the problems that a bad weld can have, being a good tradesman with a wide knowledge is up to you as an individual and many take the easy route and never learn the theoretical metallurgical aspect, and those are the ones that get a sucky job making the same part over and over until they are replaced by a machine.
>>80663851
>he can't shitpost next to his high school sweetheart who he married and who bore him children
>instead he hugs his dirty, unwashed, totally ironic anime pillow, and passed out in his own filth around 3am, to the blatant enmity of his tired, disappointed parents.
Learn a trade, get a haircut, shave, go to the gym. You'll find someone you love, you'll get a job and earn money, and you'll be happier. There is still hope for you.
>>80650932
>3000$ a month starting it is
Before tax I guess. $ sign at end = QC = high taxes too
Basically you're earning something lower than average but fair enough.
>>80656959
I worked my way through college with a series of oilfield related jobs
Lot's of experience with welders (who all made very good money) and divers
Divers made bank but there job was ridiculously expensive and lot's of them die on the job
>>80665523
But I'm a NEET and I'm married.
>>80665335
That's what you get for falling for the college meme dipshit
>>80660224
36k is low for skilled labor, especially a hazardous job such as welding.
>>80664919
First, you have to choose to be born to a Jewish pharma executive. Then you have to attend an expensive university, where you'll major in Economics. Then you join one of the training programs for a Wall Street firm, which will be happy to accept you, because your father is a Jewish pharma executive.
From there you put your nose to the grindstone and help rob institutional investors of value by creating baroque financial products, and unnecessary financial services.
>>80665523
Still up wagie? And you fell for the 3D women meme? Oh boy, there is NO hope for you I'm afraid.
>>80665335
Idk why people feel the need to go university so badly if they aren't for it. Especially after they take out a bunch of student loans. No shame in working after high school to save for school and figuring out a plan while you working case school doesn't work out well.
You can always save up a little bit of money and try out a vocational introduction course at a college. They expose you to all kinds of shit you wouldn't otherwise know you liked it for a dirt cheap price. I think 1 year course here is like 3k if you include materials and books.
>>80660224
I don't think the college graduates make 1 million dollars meme is still true , they were saying that in the 90's - I know Hillary Clinton used to attempt to meme it even back in 2008 during her primaries (that she lost)
>>80650932
How much did you spend OP total on your education OP? How much did the average student spend?
>>80664799
You can, if you do side jobs for people and ask for cash payments. Probably won't earn as much though
>>80664854
Welding is great as a trade, but Maggie sure to specialize. Welding in a both in a fab shop all day might be easy and quick to lwarn, but it doesn't pay as much as the guys who specialize in certain environs or metals. For example, I'm an ironworker and because we're welding overhead, hanging off of beams and columns, and we work with stainless steel a lot, we generally earn a little more.
>>80662205
You also had the misfortune to be born in the third world.
It's like being the richest man in Niger. You're still in Niger and you're still not white.
>>80665062
Florida
Marine/Ship
It's hard and unforgiving work, and you'd better be okay with working among beaners, but because it's so nasty, it pays well.
>>80665234
What is your occupation mate? Respecting other fields is an important ability. Sure there are important white collars out there what i was trying to say with my first comment was that a large amount of jobs in the white collar field are more or less useless and if you have been at a company you can agree with this.
>>80665703
I can't help it, Ive been indoctrinated since birth.
>>80665818
Good to know, amigo. I really want a excuse to leave California.
It doesn't help me seeing my friend just graduate with a aerospace engi degree and nailing a 80k process engineering gig.
But he worked his ass off, so he deserves it.
>>80665866
Its likely more than a million now. Inflation makes all numbers bigger.
>>80665961
Does the union treat you well? I have relatives who are Ironworkers in the US and make a shitload of money but claim they get treated like shit by their union.
I've been thinking of going into it after military.
>>80665996
>tfw being a rich half spic
>tfw a fucking leaf saying I live in the third world
>>80665812
You're in for a nasty life post-40 years old.
Not that I agree with wage slavery, but NEET life is only good until you lose your parents. When they die, no one else is going to care for you.
>>80666299
>he's never left the US and thus does not realise how unfortunate he is
Look there is nothing wrong with a proud blue collar job, its not for everyone though just like working in a office isn't for everyone.
Pro to blue collar work:
>hourly so potential for good money
>almost always in demand if you have some skill
>easy to get into
>low cost to entry/low barrier to entry ( starting always niche stuff harder to enter in any occupation )
Cons:
>benefits are all over the place depending on union or not
>no paid time off
>work usually in the elements ( not always )
>cap to wage, depending on overtime, travel, ect
>Body issues as you age from hard physical work
>>80666649
California has a larger population than your entire country, and this is your capitol city.
>>80666294
I'm not a union member, so I'm no help there. The compliant I work for is pussy good, they'll teach you everything, get you certified in everything, and you can move up easily and make 40-50 an hour as a foreman, plus company truck and gas, and hotel rooms.
Union jobs are $$$ in some places though. Near Boston our union jobs were paying $50/hr base, plus $30/hr in pension
>>80660154
no shit, the joke lies in the fact that she came back once she realized you're good for leeching off of. Who else is going to pay that debt for her, you fool.
>>80666825
I think a lot of blue collar workers are just annoyed with being looked down upon by people from college, and it's not just a /pol/ thing. It's all over the place ,especially during election cycles when conservative candidates get shit on by the media for having less educated supporters.
>>80666141
Wouldnt say useless, I'd say they're equally easy to learn as most low skilled jobs.
But being a manager and being a manager at a particular company you familiarized yourself with are two different things.
I often hear from people who're at the bottom of the food chain that "x earns $ something? All he does is talk on the phone and write emails while I bust my ass off all day".
What they dont understand is that x had to get the job for a reason in the first place, probably established good connections with clients and other stakeholders who eventually pay for your job, and generally know the process well and keep everything in order.
The bigger the company the harder to know the process and keep everything in order. And thats something not everyone can learn or even able to do.
I've seen my fair share of loudmouth people who got promoted only to fuck everything up as managers.
I also met my fair share of manual workers who eventually got promoted and they had the advantage of knowing the mindset of the regular joes while having the brains to actually run a company.
>>80667307
Jesus fucking swipe keyboard.
Compliant= company
Pussy was supposed to be "pretty"
>>80666649
I've been all over the world actually. Going to Europe again this fall. Next time you get out of Saskatchewan you'll realize your Trudeau bucks can't buy much poutine abroad. My fault though, I should have never engaged your post in the first place.
>>80662503
which branch did u join senpai
>>80666587
I'll just get disability then. The Canadian government will buy my snacks and video games.
>>80653479
Fuckin kek
>>80665523
>get a haircut, shave, go to the gym. You'll find someone you love
You're making a whole helluva lot of assumptions there, not everyone is "Average" there are people out there that le haircut,gym,shave meme isn't going to work for.
Some people are actually irreparably ugly or mentally fucked, they typically end up as NEETS shitposting on 4chan or just kill themselves. Instead of spouting generic as fuck self-help garbage, just hide their posts. You likely don't understand how much of a fuck up they are, and they definitely won't appreciate someone who's better off then them telling them to "Just be themselves and work hard and you can do anything :)"
Neither one of you is going to get anything out of it, he'll hate you and see you as a posturing faggot trying to feel superior, and you probably think he's a worthless piece of shit, why interact?
>>80667307
That's pretty dope. I mentioned unions since my uncle was telling me that its rough to find a non union job. He pays a shitload of union dues and gets fuck all in terms of help from them but this is just his side of the story.
I'm definitely considering that after the military now though, especially since I got a fair amount of connections in both Canada and the US.
Thanks anon.
>>80667518
So you're the reason why the quebecuck government is recruiting qualified industry professionals from outside of Canada.
Damn Canadians, get your shit together...
>>80667486
>Going to Europe again this fall
lel. like you have a passport.
get on my level scrub.
>>80650932
Nothing wrong in being a welder. Unless you happen to live in a third world country and getting shit pay + A LOT of unpaid overtime + shitty working conditions w/o any safety standards.
t. former welder
>>80666825
that all depends who you work for, hell i work for a small company and i get insurance paid by the company, 401k with company match, 2-3 weeks ppt a year plus being the only welder left there after the bust with all the certs they need i can literally be late everyday and they dont complain
>>80667828
They OWE me that much at least. My parents payed taxes for years.
>>80667828
>hamster NEET
>qualified industry professional
Brazil is even worse than I thought.
>>80667846
Are you that canadian who still owns a commonwealth passport or something.
>>80667846
Oh wow, a triple traitor! Dont see that often.
>>80662503
and all you had to do is become a murderous pawn for the government, congrats.
>>80668143
>not collecting high quality passports
Whats some other good tades with easy certificates to get? I am currently a hardwood floorman but I want a real career.
My dad always tells me to go CnC programmer or electrical technician so thats what I might do. Welding is always an option too.
>>80668046
like i said it depends on union or not for benefits. As most unions do have full benefits.
most of your non union blue collar workers do not receive benefits, doesn't mean all just a general trend.
>be 18, graduated highschool
>didn't go off and blow 60k on a wasteful uni degree
>went into tech school, Process Operations Technology
>be now, 20
>no debt
>instant job at a local Chemical Plant
>22/hr, 8% 401k
>get to live home with my parents, no rent
>going to ride the gravy train
>in 3 years, going to buy a house out right at 23
Fucking glad my dad red pilled me on University and how useless that shit is lol. All my counter parts are doing liberal arts and mom degrees.
>>80651666
If you can be a nuc, be a nuc. Seriously. You get a top secret security clearance which makes companies automatically trust you, you start out as an E-3 even if you only have a high school education, and you can easily make 100k starting once you get out into private sector.
t. shipping off to the navy in september, nuclear field.
>>80667518
>The Canadian government will
not exist when you are 50 years old.
I hope you worked and invested wisely. I hear tell it gets cold up there in Canada. Especially in winter.
>>80660224
>just invest the money anon, 2008 will never happen again!
wew
>>80668748
theres been a shift in the south where both pretty much have them, me personally i can not stand unions
>>80668964
>22/hr
>buy house outright in 3 years
...runs math...
even if you saved every penny you'll be buying a house worth like $130k. live in bumfuck idaho friend?
>>80668475
CNC programmer is kinda cool anon, used to work with that back in 2006-08.
Video related, this CNC machine is expensive as fuck. I think it cost something like 1million euros or something, you must have seen the gif somewhere in 4chan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=HfnEIi3PJgg
