What is the general view in /pol/ on gun control?
Brit who wants more guns legalized here to be frankly honest.
My view can be summed up in a few words.
SHALL
>>80633304
People who support gun control belong in mental institutions.
>>80633304
You should you fucking cuck.
Guns are literally awesome.
Get what you can when you can.
Owned guns all my life and never have shot anyone.
>>80634513
Just wanna fire a handgun on a plot of land that I own to be honest lad
>>80633457
This
Female aversion to male symbols of power I can understand - any male so inclined needs his balls removed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU
>>80633304
>What is the general view in /pol/ on gun control?
Against all gun control.
>Brit who wants more guns legalized here to be frankly honest.
Yeah, your country is insane when it comes to gun control.
![20160711_161135[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/av7w8mQ.jpg "20160711_161135[1].jpg")
>>80633304
so sad for you britbro
in America even poorfags like me have guns
>>80633304
I don't think gun control works beyond basic safety measures to keep guns out of the hands of incompetents, children, drunks, and other irresponsible people. guns are fun, but they're not toys, and should be treated with the same respect as other dangerous objects. you wouldn't let a drunk operate a lathe; why should we let drunks operate firearms? we put child safety locks on cars and pill bottles, why be opposed to safety toggles on pistols and rifles or childproof latches on gun boxes?
That said, I really hate america, and think they should be disarmed because the american people as a whole are irresponsible and incompetent. Britain or Canada or Germany or wherever, privately-owned arms can be useful and non-dangerous. But americans simply cannot be trusted. I've met americans who literally say that the very existence of a "safe" mode on a gun is a violation of the second amendment. not even saying it has to be used. just the manufacturer putting one there
and even if I didn't hate america, I feel that the ATF and american gun laws make pretty much no sense and should be 100% scrapped and re-written
>b-b-but SHALLL NOT BE INFRINGE how simple is SHALL
even that as a sentence is poorly constructed and it only applies to the law-making powers of congress; and congress has ignored it on multiple occasions anyway. american gun laws are just too scattershot and slapdash to be anything short of a complete joke.
see: ASSAULT WEAPONS
>>80637717
also i just know that some americunt is gonna chimp the fuck out at this post about how he needs his guns to scare the gubment or that any law means it'll turn into singapore overnight or w/e
or maybe just posts "SHALL"
americans are all shit and don't deserve nice things until they grow the fuck up
disarm all americans and distribute the guns amongst the people of other countries, i say
>>80637717
>ASSAULT WEAPONS
Easiest way to know someone knows nothing about firearms
>>80638303
>Easiest way to know someone knows nothing about firearms
exactly. americans invented the phrase "Assault Weapon". why would you give that culture access to firearms, knowing that they clearly dont know shit about them? that phrase is not used in other countries, at least not nearly as much.
>>80637717
My rights aren't subject to your feelings.
>>80638458
10 round KEK
>>80638537
your rights are protected by literally no one, as shown by things like the '94 (((Assault Weapon))) Ban existing, or the very existence of the ATF as an agency
>>80638601
britbongs can have shotguns and shit and they're relatively inexpensive and easy to get as long as you have the faintest hint of a "sporting purpose" for them (which can literally just be a scrawled note reading "i like to hunt mice")
>binoculars
>for home defense
what
>>80638820
don't you have some soccer moms to cow down to
>>80638537
He's also a Canadian, so he can have whatever opinion he wants, it's not going to affect me buying a rifle
>>80633353
NOT
>>80635135
Me too m8. Don't want to deal with the gun club bs. I just want freedom!
>>80638845
>your rights are protected by literally no one,
Actually, they're protected by my firearms.
Which is why the government wants to strip me of my rights.
So that they can strip me of every other right I have whenever they want.
>>80638975
>He's also a Canadian, so he can have whatever opinion he wants, it's not going to affect me buying a rifle
That's very true. Not that we have anything to fear from them either.
Even if they tried something all we have to do is yell "APOLOGIZE!" and the leaf's will stop, say "I'm sorry, eh." and run back to maple land.
>>80633304
Current laws are fine. Just fucking enforce them.
>>80638946
Im gonna enjoy my delicious Kinder Surprise now.
How can gunfags compete?
>>80637717
Canada really needs to be disconnected from the internet.
It's not even funny at this point.
>>80639255
INFRINGED
>>80639272
you know they lifted the ban on those 3 years ago right?
>>80638946
These fucking bans!!!
It enrages me to think that there are poor impoverished children in this world that are prevented from ever knowing the pleasure of finding that wonderful toy inside a delicious Kinder Egg!
>>80639272
Too bad you can't enjoy democracy or freedom you cuckold
>>80639659
>It enrages me to think that there are poor impoverished children in this world that are prevented from ever knowing the pleasure of finding that wonderful toy inside a delicious Kinder Egg!
It truly is a tragedy, and americans support it every day
>>80639272
>How can gunfags compete?
By discussing how the Holocaust is a hoax and how Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest people to have ever lived without going to prison.
>Yuros will never know this much freedom
>>80639898
>can play tic tac toe with ammo.
Nice!
>>80633304
Are you rural? My dad lived there and owned two rifles and a shotgun. The .22 killed rabbits. The .223 caused rabbits to evaporate.
>>80638845
>your rights are protected by literally no one, as shown by things like the '94 (((Assault Weapon))) Ban existing, or the very existence of the ATF as an agency
Once Trump stacks the supreme court, the ATF and assorted fuckery are going away forever.
No more NFA.
No more GCA.
>>80639898
Switzerland.
>>80635135
I know that feel OP.
Live in city limits and cannot shoot mine.
I drive out to a nature trail/forest area and shoot after hiking for a bit.
Own a pistol and conceal carry it when I can, a Glock
Own AR-15s
Own Tactical Shotguns
It's a great feel lad.
If I shoot within city limits cops show up.
can still defend my home from mudslimes or whatever.
Feelsgood.jpg
>>80633304
what do you think?
No gun control, i think usa has too strict gun laws with its bullshit bans on fully automatics
Only Yemen and waziristan in pakistan have good gun laws where you need no permit or registration to buy fully automatics and you can open carry everything
>>80640416
>t-trump will get in and make everythign better!! ;_;
pfpffhfahfafhafahfahAHAhaahaHAHAHAhahAHAHAHA
besides, gun control can still be left up to individual states and cali and ny will remain cali and ny
>>80635135
handguns are less fun than rifles imo
>>80639898
>Have fully auto assault rifle at home
>Don't even have a gun permit
>Completely legal
>Didn't even have to pay for it either
Yeah, tell me more about freedom.
>>80633304
Gun control in know way hinders or sways a persons intention to cause harm and therefore is completely ineffective.
>>80638946
>trigger discipline
yeah nah into the trash it goes
>>80640416
Why would a man who wants to ban people on a list with no due process from owning guns stack the supreme court with pro-gun people?
>>80633304
I don't mind some minor regulation - if they keep it at that.
Which they never will, which is why I oppose regulations.
>>80640803
"No" way
>>80639204
>Actually, they're protected by my firearms.
>>80640795
yemen beats all
only two gun laws in yemen
you need a permit to carry fully automatics in the capital and that is never enforced and you cant sell guns to people under 18 but you can buy for them guns.
You need no permit to sell guns, they are sold at flea markets, you need no registration to sell or buy any type of firearms no permits nothing.
Its like buying a pack of smokes
>>80639966
4u
>>80638458
>americans invented the phrase "Assault >Weapon".
Adolf Hitler wasn't an American dumbass.
Sturmgewehr bitch.
>>80633304
My view on gun control? Using both hands.
>>80640794
>gun control can still be left up to individual states and cali and ny will remain cali and ny
Soon enough, that won't be the case. Like I said, Trump, Supreme Court.
The 2A has been incorporated. All it takes is the Supreme Court saying that AWBs are a no-go and that permitting is gay, and it's all over.
>>80640952
Now let that faggot cop try to take the person's firearms and you'll see a different outcome.
>>80641037
Sturmgewhr translates to "Storm(ing) Rifle" and gave rise to the phrase "Assault Rifle" which refers to features like using an intermediate cartridge, full-auto fire and intended operation and uses, not "Assault Weapon" as per shitlib cuckfornia definitions of having a scary black shoulder thing that goes up
>>80638946
somebody post the edit
>>80633304
You have the natural (god given, for the religious) right to protect yourself. Humans use tools, and guns are a tool to defend yourself and your loved ones, as well as giving you the ability to hunt for food if you need to. Giving up modern weapons is giving up your humanity.
>>80641339
1. Trump has to get elected first.
2. Multiple supreme court justice's have to leave.
3. Trump will have to get all his nominees approved.
That's a lot of "ifs" and "buts"
>>80641602
All very easy. MAGA.
>>80641000
Even though they have sensible gun legislation it's still a civil war torn shithole full of muslims (what a pleonasm) and it's capital city is literally about to run out of water.
>>80641339
>All it takes is the Supreme Court saying that AWBs are a no-go and that permitting is gay,
which they would never do, because the supreme court are separate people from the president who hold their own opinions and interpretations of law, and even then, States' Rights are a thing and there's pretty much no way for them to legally enforce that.
Also, 2a's status as positively granting gun rights was already settled by the supreme court before:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Cruikshank
>The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose." This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government, leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation by their fellow citizens of the rights it recognizes, to what is called, in The City of New York v. Miln, 11 Pet. 139, the "powers which relate to merely municipal legislation, or what was, perhaps, more properly called internal police," "not surrendered or restrained" by the Constitution of the United States.
Basically, the states cannot be restricted from the act of restricting. 2A only applies to congress, and only to individuals indirectly.
>>80641200
>you HAVE to use both hands
s-sHALL !!
Buy Freedom Pills in bulk to save money.
Euro dudes need to move to America like we all did.
>>80641694
>All very easy.
Hillary has the FBI and the DOJ in her back pocket. You think she's going to allow something as important as an election up to chance?
>MAGA.
Fuck Amurrica. It's a Jew controlled anti-White cesspool. Amurrica has been dead for years. The sooner it collapses, the better.
REMINDER TO BUILD NOW BEFORE THE ELECTION
>>80633304
I believe cops should crack down on those who aquire guns illegally. After that, I'd be fine with background checks.
>>80641870
>which they would never do, because the supreme court are separate people from the president who hold their own opinions and interpretations of law
Which won't matter, because Trump is looking at multiple appointments.
>even then, States' Rights are a thing and there's pretty much no way for them to legally enforce that.
You can't abridge incorporated rights, you moron.
>Basically, the states cannot be restricted from the act of restricting. 2A only applies to congress, and only to individuals indirectly.
Why are you quoting a case that occurred before incorporation? It no longer applies like that. If the supreme court says that AWBs and carry permits are not constitutional, then NO STATE can pass and/or require them.
That's how incorporation works.
Stick to discussing Canadian politics at Timmy's
American gun laws are too strict as they are.
>>80642079
I also believe it should be manditory to learn firearm safety at the same time as sexual education (around fourth or fifth grade).
>>80638946
Those eggs arent banned anymore.
>>80642279
That's correct.
>>80638946
Some of the other ads in this series include bans on things like books (Little Red Riding Hood), skateboards, and dodgeball. I think they do an excellent job of highlighting the fact that we need to armed so that we can put these people in the ground where they belong.
Lets also not forget how in these ads, its a white kid holding the gun, and a minority kid holding other 'dangerous item'.
>>80642350
>Those eggs aren't banned anymore.
They were never effectively banned but it has become a source of memes therefore it must be true.
>>80642279
american gun laws make no fucking sense and are written by retarded people who dont know anything about guns
>>80642562
did you know that 100% of all firearms are banned in canada, and self-defense is illegal and carries the death penalty? it's true, /k/ told me so
>>80641870
>Basically, the states cannot be restricted from the act of restricting. 2A only applies to congress, and only to individuals indirectly.
Yeah, according to a Supreme Court that just ruled 4-4 on giving Obama the ability to write law with executive order. We were very close to Obama literally having ultimate power, like Hitler after the Enabling Act.
>>80639659
Maybe if we would send these kids Kinder eggs they would be nice kids again.
A weapon doesnt kill a person.
A firearm doesnt kill anyone.
People didnt start killing eachother when AR 15 was introduced, and they wont stop killing eachother when the AR 15 is banned.
People have been hitting eachother to death since the beginning of time, and will continue to do so, until the end of times.
What kind of weapon the murderer holds in his hands doesnt matter, its the mind that kills not the physical object.
You can kill someone with a rock, fist, choke someone, shoot someone.
Violence isnt the invention of firearms, and wont be the end of it if they are removed.
Banning guns will give guns to government and other criminals only.
Ask Communist China 30+ million dead civilians what they would have thought about a peoples milita. Ask Hitlers people what they would have thought about it.
Ask Soviet union under Stalin if they thought they needed arms to defedn themselves.
>>80642739
So Obama is literally Hitler? Meme it, meme team!
>>80633304
British Standard Piping.
Build your own.
>>80642739
>We were very close to Obama literally having ultimate power, like Hitler after the Enabling Act.
This is deeply unsurprising. The US political system is already pretty lopsided towards executive power, and seems regarded by the populace as basically installing an emperor in a republic, and not a president in a democracy.
I honestly wonder why the US didn't give the house of representatives much more power, like how commonwealth countries tend to use parliamentary systems.
>>80642968
the AR15 should be banned, but not because of gun control, it's just kinda pleb tier
it is the Honda Civic of rifles
slaves shouldnt be armed. thats why im not(and you arent too)
>>80633304
Keep them out of the hands of convicted criminals but leave them a path to urn it back.
Other then that fuck off. I want a battleship.
>>80635135
this to be honest lad
>>80643232
>it is the Honda Civic of rifles
Kids like the AR-15 though because it is cheap and easy to trick out like a hot rod car.
>>80639413
>>80638537
>saying absolutely anything negative about "muh gun freedumbs" no matter how minor
>this triggers the Americuck
>>80643403
>AMERICANS SHOULDN"T HAVE GUNS!
>minor
Kill urself
>>80642968
I was involved with the criminal underground here in California a long time ago. I can get an illegal throwaway gun starting at $20 easy still and I'm not even in the game anymore. Banning guns for respectful citizens will only increase violence, especially now that blacks are starting to chimp out.
>>80643225
what about the ammo
why aren't air rifles more popular among the WE NEEDS R UNTRACEABLE GUN'S 2 SCARE DA GUBMENT types? you can make ammo for them more easily than you can make decent black powder and primers, and modern smokeless powder is probably out of the reach of normal people to manufacture
the girandoni is a hot meme already but srsly if you wanna cap some pigs from the shadows or whatever why not do it with .40 Pellet instead of 6.8 Grendel
>>80643376
exactly, it is the Honda Civic of rifles
it's not got very good performance or is at all striking to look at, but the aftermarket is enormous for no reason than that it was already enormous at some point somehow, so everyone thinks it's the hottest shit ever because you can get sicc body kits and rad anime stickers that make it go faster
>>80643725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gYPdNAp9Q0
I am sure President Trump will be able to make a perfect deal that will make both the gun grabbing liberals and the AR-15 owners very happy.
>>80642440
I hope you know I'm not being sarcastic.
>>80642632
Just like ours.
>>80643232
>I honestly wonder why the US didn't give the house of representatives much more power,
They do have a lot of power, the problem is a lot of the House is owned and controlled by corporate and even foreign interests. They could defund every single one of Obama's illegal programs if they had the will. The Senate is a separate issue, it's becoming the House of Lords after 100 years of the 17th amendment, which essentially voided the Senate's function as a representative of the states. Representatives are elected by district, but Senators are elected by state wide popular elections.
This means you can expect literally no accountability for a Sentator, whereas a Representative almost always lives in the district he represents, they have to face the people who elected them and explain their actions. The bigger the state the less representation and accountability you get from a Senator, also, since there are always only 2. Before 17a, Senators were elected by their respective state legislatures, which were comprised of elected officials. This ensures the state's interests are represented in Congress. The Senate is completely redundant under 17A, we already have a legislative body that represents the people, its in the fucking name. 17A fucks up the delicate system of checks and balances, now states have very little ability to keep Federal tyranny in check, they have to hope the residents of their state elect good Senators, they often don't.
tl;dr Our system worked really well until the original Progressive movement fucked up EVERYTHING.
>>80633304
In my germany there would be a second amandement, castle doctrine etc. and everyone, who thinks weapon ownership is bad/evil would be the laughingstock of the community.
>>80644294
>All high capacity clips will be banned. Only the larger and heavier magazines will be allowed.
kek
>>80635135
you can do that
>>80643403
When you talk about stripping me of my rights you're damn right I get defensive.
If I get accepted to a university in America what are the chances that I can get a job there and stay? I wanna live in America so bad
>>80644424
In the old Germany it was pretty obvious who owned weapons.
>>80644182
>take hours to make like 5 rounds, painstakingly shaving matches that are way too expensive these days because hipsters and their cigarellos
>or cast a hundred pellets at once and go watch some hot new animes while they set
hmmmm
>>80644378
>Just like ours.
well, ours make sense and can be read by a human being and understood, at least
>>80644417
scrap it and bring in a parliamentary system
its the only way
also release the cap on number of representatives
>>80644541
You realize that the point of an amendment is that it can be changed, right? There used to be an amendment that banned booze in your precious constitution, but that got removed too.
>>80644541
2a has been violated many times before, as have literally every other amendment
"MUH RIGHTS" carry no legal power on their own, they have to be actually enforced
>>80644378
>I hope you know I'm not being sarcastic.
I know.
>>80633304
>What is the general view in /pol/ on gun control?
Using both hands.
>Brit who wants more guns legalized here to be frankly honest.
You think leaving the EU will expedite getting guns back into the hands of decent Brits? I mean that's certainly a step in the right direction.
>>80637985
NOT
>>80633304
>Brit who wants more guns legalized here to be frankly honest.
>more guns legalized
>legalized
>z
Fuck off proxyfag, you're fooling nobody.
The vast majority of Brits don't give two shits about owning guns anyway.
Guns are just like abortion. A way for politicians to trick poor people into voting for them. Plebs are hilarious how easy they are to manipulate over something that has essentially zero impact over anything.
>>80644624
Pretty good if you're studying something worthwhile. Got a German bro here that had an easy move to America.
>>80644704
>You realize that the point of an amendment is that it can be changed, right?
And yet they refuse to even try that. Instead they unconstitutionally whittle away our rights through the courts.
>>80644806
>2a has been violated many times before, as have literally every other amendment
Of course. But not removed. There's a difference between the two.
>"MUH RIGHTS" carry no legal power on their own, they have to be actually enforced
Hence why them removing the second amendment is so important to them. no guns = no opposition.
>>80644687
Hitler was an asshole and the only option to own a gun in third reich was more or less to be police or military personell.
>>80645145
I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight and damaging your brain.
>>80645115
What state are you in? What did he study? What was the process like for him to extend his student visa to permanent residence?
A pretty typical American Freedom Store.
>>80644697
>a firearm is legal if it falls under certain parameters...
>Unless it's one of these prescribed EVIL rifles!
>AK47 is 2evil4u
>Vz58s in every gun store across the country
>the fucking h&k G11 is banned
We have so many native drivebys with prototype caseless ammo automatic rifles, I'm so glad we have these sensible laws
>>80645268
>I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight and damaging your brain.
So people don't want to strip us of our firearms?
Or are you saying that we should give up some or all of our firearms rights?
>>80645145
>But not removed.
iirc it's legally more difficult to remove the "original" amendments but still, congress and the individual states gladly ignore them
see: assault weapon ban, NY and Cali's behavior, firearm seizures during natural disasters, etc
> no guns = no opposition.
why are americans so stupid and think that laws are literally magic? 2a doesnt have to be removed for guns to be grabbed, nor do guns have to be grabbed if 2a somehow gets removed.
>>80645303
>saying that canadian gun laws are readable means that I agree with them 100%
fuck off to california then, ameriboo shill
>>80645466
>he's this autistic, he doesn't understand
>>80645286
I'm unfortunately in California. I once asked him how he got to become one of us long ago but all I remember was that he had studied here. I'll ask him again with more details to help you foreign bros next time I see him.
>>80645563
Explain the magazine capacity laws then and why there was a huge shitfest over the .50 beowulf mags and why people can't seem to understand why it's legal.
Our laws are just as retarded. It has nothing to do with Ameribooism or shilling. (???)
>>80645466
I think he's saying that your tinfoil hat is on too tight and that you're overreacting to innocuous comments about the nature of law on a vietnamese novelty suit forum
i personally would like to see you disarmed, because you seem like a stupid and irresponsible person who both doesn't deserve nice things and is probably going to be dangerous if given anything as dangerous as a loaded firearm, but that other FUCKING LEAF probably does not feel the same way about you and was just commenting on the impermanent nature of laws
>>80645675
Meh. California is alright. I'd still rather live there than here.
Is he a US citizen? Do you know how long he's been there?
>>80633304
I want Wyoming tier gun laws except full autos, suppressors ans SBRs should be easier to get. If I could have that in the UK, I would be very happy.
I dont mind licensing a tank gun or an artillery piece. Negligent discharge a 9mm you might die. Negligent discharge a 125mm HEAT-FS everyone on the street dies.
>>80633304
I'm the same senpai. I've lost count how many times I've had discussions on it and it always ends the same way.
>Some 19 year old got shot by the armed response a few months ago a couple of mile up the road from me
>He wasn't actually armed, he was just drunk
>"Good enough for him. Doesn't he realise that guns are dangerous, we don't need them"
>"So if someone broke into your house and they had a gun what would you do?"
>"Ring the police just like what happened here"
>"What and use bulletproof tolerance for 20 minutes until they turned up? What exactly is it that makes you believe that the police should be armed and the general population shouldn't?"
>"Because they're trained and know how to handle them obviously"
>"Well obviously they don't because they shot an unarmed teenager. If being trained and knowing how to use them is the only stipulation why was Albert Patterson jailed for possession? This is a man who was in the SAS for 22 years and served in the Falklands, so if anything he's had more training and know how than anyone in the police"
>"Yes, but he's retired"
>"And? Did he suddenly forget all of his training the day he retired? Does a mechanic forget how to fix a car? Does a joiner forget how to hang a door?"
>"You're just speaking in riddles"
>"Look at it this way. If someone has a gun on them right now, it's much more likely than not they have it on them to cause harm, namely murdering someone. So if they're running the risk of a life sentence anyway, why do people like you believe an automatic five year jail term will put them off carrying it?"
>"Only the police and army should have gun. Get educated!"
I genuinely despise these retards.
>>80645042
>You think leaving the EU will expedite getting guns back into the hands of decent Brits?
We can only hope that Briton will get better not being controlled by the cucks in the EU.
>>80645474
>iirc it's legally more difficult to remove the "original" amendments but still, congress and the individual states gladly ignore them
>see: assault weapon ban, NY and Cali's behavior, firearm seizures during natural disasters, etc
Yes, the american people have given their government enormous leeway in being walked all over.
>why are americans so stupid and think that laws are literally magic? 2a doesnt have to be removed for guns to be grabbed, nor do guns have to be grabbed if 2a somehow gets removed.
Well its true I have the right to keep and bear arms regardless of what the laws and such say. The gun grabbers though would use the lack of amendments and laws to attempt to strip us of our rights.
>>80645598
Are baseless insults all you have?
>>80645859
>I think he's saying that your tinfoil hat is on too tight and that you're overreacting to innocuous comments about the nature of law on a vietnamese novelty suit forum
I think leafs need to worry about their own super cucked anti-White prime minister.
Hell, if he doesn't give your homes to sandnigger invaders I'll be surprised.
>i personally would like to see you disarmed
Well, you're a faggot.
> because you seem like a stupid and irresponsible person who both doesn't deserve nice things and is probably going to be dangerous if given anything as dangerous as a loaded firearm,
Too bad for you, your feelings don't determine if we should be allowed access to rights or not.
But by all means...if you want us disarmed...try it yourself.
>>80645724
afaik the beowulf mags were not intended for loading .223, and just can, so while they can be sold legally as 10 round magazines, they are not used for that purpose
DETACHABLE magazines can have 5 rounds if in a rifle, and 10 if in a handgun. non-detachable magazines have no limit. a magazine permanently fitted to a weapon similarly has no limit. because fucking nobody makes 5 and 10 round STANAG mags, you can have larger magazines if a device is inserted to ensure they cannot be loaded to more than the relevant limit.
i'm not 100% sure but off the top of my head, I think RPAL holders can ignore those limits; iirc, larger magazines are only restricted, not prohibited.
>>80645885
>California is alright
whats it like being wrong
>>80645966
>SBRs
>enabling the ATF by using their language
"SBR" is a dumb designation
>>80646085
I doubt that will happen. UK's shitty gun laws weren't because they were in the EU.
>>80646233
>But by all means...if you want us disarmed...try it yourself.
>>80646311
California is alright in the sense that I'd still pick that place to live any day instead of here.
>>80633304
Yes, I'd like my own firearm.
>>80644697
>scrap it and bring in a parliamentary system
>its the only way
That's dumb, because we have states. We just need to get rid of the 17th amendment and it fixes most problems with our Congress overnight.
>>80646311
I still want to easily obtain what the ATF define as a SBR without any hassle here in the UK.
>>80645885
Idk how it is in your country but California is shit. He is a citizen that has been here at least 5 years (I've known him that long).
>>80646368
I just find it amusing that all you gun grabbers want firearm owners disarmed, by force if necessary, but you're never the ones who'd volunteer to do it.
>>80646233
"Laws" have a way of being taken too seriously or simply being ignored. There is a growing trend for local police and states now simply ignoring gun laws.
>>80646556
How old is he? You can become a citizen within 5 years of being there? Is he super rich or something?
>>80637717
first glance
>nice gun, couple knives too
second glance
>what's that thing at the bottom? Maybe it's some tacticool thing I've not heard of
third glance
>huge black dragon dildos and bottle of cum lube
fucking canadians
>>80646311
>magazine permanently fitted to a weapon similarly has no limit.
oh also to clarify this, i mean if you do something like take a gun that normally uses detachable mags but have one that requires a tool to remove (like the california meme Bullet Button mags that need a pin to insert and remove) or swap one completely non-detachable magazine for another (like replacing a shotgun tube with a longer one)
>>80646233
what you seem too autistic to understand here is that there are differences between what you CAN do and what you MAY do, and that what you MAY do does not reflect what you CAN do and vice-versa
this kind of ignorance/stupidity being so prevalent in your people is why I feel you are collectively not mature enough to deserve guns
>>80646580
>'it's so amusing that normal citizens want professionals to deal with disarming dangerous psycopaths'
>>80645054
Bollocks. Want my handguns back. You don't punish people who didn't actually do anything. When the fuck did brits get so pussified about guns. Fuck I'd go to the states if I could. Sitting on my porch with my AR, dog, and banjo (barn full of one eyed jug eared kids optional). Get in.
>>80646580
>>80646580
my feelings on america would lead me towards random slayings or joining some kind of anti-american terror group rather than participating in disarmament.
I don't have a problem with guns, I have a problem with americans
>>80646685
thats not actually my photo and i doubt the poster of it was even canadian, i just liked the filename
>>80646854
probably chavs
it's why knives are such a touchy subject
it's because chavs keep friggin stabbing people with kitchen knives
just stop having that happen and the country will gradually "unpussify"
>>80646311
Beowulfs are pinned to 5.5 rounds.
>>80633304
right to guns is crucial for the maintenance of freedom and democracy
also gives me a good chance to blast the sandniggers to hell
>>80646685
>England leaves EU.
>Suddenly always England golem.
It's afraid.
>>80647148
>5.5 rounds.
what
>>80647186
Born in the wrong generation. You will never drive out the Moors.
>>80646068
I know that feel. I like things like tanks and guns though and Ive researched most gun laws and how they are in the US and I think most peoples fear of guns stems from the fact that they know nothing about guns and that they nothing about gun laws.
People think you can buy machine guns easy peazy and then you have politicians and celebrities who use ridiculous phrases like "weapons of war", which doens´t help.
>>80646663
>"Laws" have a way of being taken too seriously or simply being ignored. There is a growing trend for local police and states now simply ignoring gun laws.
Well hey, if the government can ignore laws then the people should be allowed to as well, right?
>>80646738
>what you seem too autistic to understand here is that there are differences between what you CAN do and what you MAY do, and that what you MAY do does not reflect what you CAN do and vice-versa
And disarming takes away any possibility of doing either.
>this kind of ignorance/stupidity being so prevalent in your people is why I feel you are collectively not mature enough to deserve guns
Again though, our rights aren't subject to your feelings.
Especially you being A FUCKING LEAF!
>>80646817
Well, you want us disarmed but you're too cowardly to do it yourselves.
You hate guns so much but you seemingly have no problem with the government being the only ones armed.
>>80647106
>I don't have a problem with guns, I have a problem with americans
Then ask your cuck prime minister to build a wall. If he's not too busy apologizing for being White, that is.
>>80637717
im just going to samefag this because i really like the composition of the image
>>80646817
>It's so amusing that dangerous psychopaths want professionals to disarm normal citizens
Fixed*
People who are literally in favor of scrapping the 2nd amendment are a very small minority, certainly not "normal" by any standard.
>>80647370
>having a 90s flame-out tier internet meltdown because someone called americans too dumb to safely own firearms
Why are Americans the most brittle people on the planet?
>>80647229
You can shoot 5 full size niggers , plus one nigglet.
>>80647395
>normal citizens
normal citizens of the US are dangerous psychopaths.
>>80647472
>the most brittle people on the planet
You're the one who's upset that someone else in a different country has rights that make you uncomfortable.
>>80647472
What, you think I'm triggered to the point of rage or something?
lmao. No.
>>80647552
>normal citizens of the US are dangerous psychopaths.
Get a load of this faggot. Cry more you whiny little bitch.
For the time being, Brits should get a nice 12ga shotgun and a stout bolt gun. They can stop a lot of shit.
>>80646680
He is early 30s. Not rich. Working class. Not sure how exactly he got it but but I will for sure ask him a lot of questions next time we hang out. I'd like to see more good people here. He is a leftist so I try not to talk politics with him.
>>80647623
I have hot opinions
you're having a flame-out
>>80647552
By normal citizens I meant white people.
Unironically necessary for freedom
>>80647757
So hillbillies who think they need a minigun to hunt squirrels.
>>80647757
white americans invented the SJW culture ruining the world today, and are just as dangerous as their right-wing equivalents
#yesallamericans
>>80647729
Thank you my man. I'll try and get in to some school. Also gonna enter that lottery thing this year. Didn't try it last year.
>>80636956
>sig
my nigger
>>80647229
The mag limit is 5 rounds for the caliber it was designed for. That extra half a round results in you being able to fit another .223/5.56
>>80647663
What the fuck, pump actions are legal but semi autos above a certain caliber aren't? UK gun laws are fucked, if the goal of gun control is stop mass murders or whatever, why would you only ban higher calibers? Because they're so clueless about guns they don't realize .22LR will kill the fuck out of someone just the same as 5.56x39?
>>80639666
>There was a war or genocide in the UK in the 1900s.
>The United States hasn't lost anybody to wars in the 1900s.
>>80647855
>need
Lol get a load of this guy, he has to ASK his government for rights.
I don't like guns, and i don't like how americans are obsessed with them.
Still, freedom is freedom.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5mmFPyDK_8
>>80647794
Ok Hans, did you remember to prep the bull for your GF?
>>80638946
that's an M4. They've been banned for 30 years. God damn misinformation
>>80647952
>white americans invented the SJW culture
The hippie subculture began its development as a youth movement in the United States during the early 1960s and then developed around the world. Today it is a commonly used term of abuse.
Its origins may be traced to European social movements in the 19th and early 20th century such as Bohemians, and the influence of Eastern religion and spirituality. From around 1967, its fundamental ethos — including harmony with nature, communal living, artistic experimentation particularly in music, and the widespread use of recreational drugs — spread around the world during the counterculture of the 1960s, which has become closely associated with the subculture.
>>80648078
You're the only one here who can't seem to understand the difference between CAN and MAY.
>i-i can only do stuff da gubment tells me to ;_;
what's it like being such a boot-licker?
>>80647663
The long guns are available, the problem is the intrusion. Police right of access to your home at any time, plus access to your medical records Psych evaluation. Mandatory sentencing for even minor infraction's etc etc. Also the different filth divisions have very different ideas about issuing FACS.
>>80648160
>that's an M4.
it could be literally any of the thousands of AR-patterned semi-auto knockoffs on the market today
shit, it might not even be an AR pattern rifle, some companies make guns that look like ARs but perform totally differently because they know that the look is very popular
>>80633304
brits don't need guns
they need something to do
don't stab me with that butterknife pls
why don't you make some toast and have a kip
remember that most people just want to get through the fucking day
a gun only helps you become a concern for anyone in range
just look at the damage a butterknife can do
pic related
>>80647981
Keep trying. If you want to come here and help make things better, I support you. Wish there was some sort of program where I could sponsor you and help make things easier.
>>80648314
They can pretty much do all that anyway... Might as well make it worth it!
>>80648314
>Police right of access to your home at any time,
they have that anyway. I can't imagine that they actually do random raids, it's probably more just a warning that having a gun in your house is reason enough for police to enter in case of suspicion of wrongdoing.
>>80633304
Guns are fuckin awesome.
>>80633304
Gun Control will work about as well in the US, as the drug war did.
And the jokes on countries like us, who's Goverment is slowly turning Commie totalitarian, lest a happening stop it.
Period.
>>80647663
To be fair, most gun crime in the US is committed using handguns (and ofc niggers are usually the culprits). I think an outright ban on handguns in the UK is disproportionate, but it is somewhat logical.
>>80648589
they are pretty cool but it seems like an expensive hobby
I have no plans to get a (R)PAL and some gun's 2 brast on the basis of expense alone
power to anyone who wants to though
>>80648645
>And the jokes on countries like us, who's Goverment is slowly turning Commie totalitarian,
t. ameriboo
>>80639666
I'm not good with swiss with swiss history, so was that genocide before or after their modern gun policy?
>>80648230
No, it isn't a "can" or a "may". You are failing to understand the concept of Natural rights, as most non-Americans do. Our system is predicated on the belief that our rights are inherent, we have them our birth. They are not granted to us by a government made up of mortal men. The Constitution doesn't give anyone rights, its merely a codification of natural human rights, which includes the right to defend oneself. Please don't conflate the definitions of privilege and right.
>>80633304
Before Communism and it's counter took hold of Europe pretty much anyone could own any gun they wanted, and there were no incidents of school shooters or equivalent.
I just want to go back to a time before Communism pissed in my Europe.
>>80648021
It's starting to happen in yank land too. Straight pull rifles to get round any potential semi auto bans. Eg POF's Revolt AR 'bolt action'
http://pof-usa.com/revolt/
There are some interesting mechs avaliable here eg vz58 variants (MARS) where one trigger pull makes bang, bolt locks back, next trigger pull runs the bolt forward and reloads.
>>80648423
Me too my man. Pains me to see white people struggle to get in from Europe while spics can just walk across the border and have the fucking president defend them for breaking the law.
Maybe Trump will accept more euros.
>>80648689
I disagree with it but it's more logical than limiting caliber size for semi autos, as if it makes a significant difference, especially when everyone else including most of the police are unarmed.
>>80648814
>I actually support faggots like this and the retards who put him there
t. trudeaucocksucker
>>80648782
This is true. I go though about $3000 worth of ammo a year. The guns themselves are sort of the cheap part of the hobby in my case since I shoot all the time.
>>80648381
Hey, careful or I'll take my spoon to you, son.
>>80637717
Fuck off. This post is bullshit. I ENVY the freedoms our southern neighbors have! I can't even shoot my guns on my own property without the cops showing up. It's fucking bullshit. The majority of the Canadian gun laws are arbitrary and pointless. You have made extremely evident in your post the ignorance you have in the topic.
Tell me, why can I go hiking and crown land shooting with my Norinco Type 97, but not my AR? No fuckin real reason. Forget the fact that they both shoot 556, with 1 in 7 twist barrels using the same magazines. TOTAL LIBERAL KEKSHIT LAWS. Pic related are a few of mine.
>>80649049
When he wins, our leftists can flee to Canada or the EU and I will accept conservative bros moving here with open arms.
>>80648782
I second what the ameribro said. Ammo is SUPER FUCKING expensive in Canada. We get fucked really hard. >$.5 per shot of 556/223.... LOL WTF. That's why I shoot a lot of 22Lr, but I like to have the bigger guns.... Ya know... Just in case
>>80649334
Why norinco (56?) Ok but not the ar?
>>80649057
Well it's logical if the goal is to reduce gun crime, to ban the weapon actually used. Which is why the American gun control advocates are so ridiculous with their fascination with "assault rifles", when most crime is committed with a handgun.
I don't know why we're limited in calibre, as has been said, both legal and illegal types will kill you just as well.
The point you make're making about most people being unarmed is interesting - /pol/ mentions often how doomed Brits are if a race war or some such thing occurs, but anyone who possess any firearm, even just a shotgun (which are fairly easy to acquire) is significantly up-armed over anyone else, seeing as firearms ownership is such a rarity.
>>80649334
You can have shotguns with shorter than 18.5 inch barrels?
>>80640795
FUCK YOU
>tfw britburkas can own supressors and Americans have to jump through hoops t buy one
>>80648814
Sorry I think I misinterpreted your message.
>>80649795
>Which is why the American gun control advocates are so ridiculous with their fascination with "assault rifles", when most crime is committed with a handgun.
Rifles are more effective against police and governments which is why they want them banned. They don't give a shit if we shoot each other.
The right to keep and bear arms is a fundamental human right. In order for a nation to be free, it must necessarily have right to keep and bear arms guarantees. Nations that do not have these legal protections are not free and cannot be until they get them.
Guns are a dead circle.
Because negros have guns, police and white need guns, and everyone shoots to everyone, 30000 casualties per year in USA.
IF the blacks didn't have guns, the whites would not need guns either and all would be simpler...
The only good way is to need a license to get a gun, and the license means passing a psychological test and having a criminal-free past...
Perhaps a British person could explain to us how these "Weapons Sweeps" work in the UK. do they just go door to door or do they need a reason or something.
>>80649795
>anyone who possess any firearm, even just a shotgun (which are fairly easy to acquire) is significantly up-armed over anyone else, seeing as firearms ownership is such a rarity.
I don't know about a race war but people would be pretty fucked if some islamic wackos got their hands on a few .22 rifles and started shooting people in a crowded area.
>>80650173
Interesting perspective.
I thought it was fear over mass-shootings, in areas such as schools and universities.
An assault-rifle ban would just cause potential shooters to switch to handguns.
>>80650426
Looks like they found them in a park or something.
>>80650361
>IF the blacks didn't have guns, the whites would not need guns either and all would be simpler...
Yeah that's working out so well in Europe where roving packs of 10-20 sandniggers violently attack lone white people, who have no way of defending themselves.
>>80650361
>30000 casualties per year in USA.
20,000 of those are suicides.
>>80650361
Except niggers never own guns legally. They don't get background checks. The guns they use are stolen.
>>80650459
Such rifles require extensive background checks. It's not impossible, of course, that dedicated, sane Jihadists could live within a community for (I think 3?) years, gain the trust of the community and of the police and acquire such a weapon, but it is likely far easier to do what they usually do and build bombs.
>>80650361
>>80650361
>Because negros have guns, police and white need guns, and everyone shoots to everyone, 30000 casualties per year in USA.
It's not a matter of need though. It's one's right (and obligation) to defend himself. Plus, people really like guns for a number of reasons, especially considering how this country was formed. We had guns long before negros started killing each other at such high rates. That's more of an enforcement/local city government corruption issue than a gun one.
>The only good way is to need a license to get a gun, and the license means passing a psychological test and having a criminal-free past...
So the government can set the standard for what is considered psychologically fit to own a gun? Do you really not see how that might be abused?
>>80650426
Called the Rag and Bone man, because the coppers would tie up a bone in an old rag and hit you with it, it's painful but doesn;t leave much of a mark. The key was the would hit you unless you gave them something.
It's kinda like trick or treat, except only coppers get to do it, and it used to happen before elections.
They made a show about it called Steptoe and Son.
That's what they got here, a good collection of Rag and Bone.
>>80650517
>I thought it was fear over mass-shootings, in areas such as schools and universities.
>An assault-rifle ban would just cause potential shooters to switch to handguns.
Cho shot 50 people with two handguns and one of them was a .22
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shooting
>>80651068
Exactly, hence why the fixation on "assault rifles" is foolhardy.
>>80640795
Based mountain jews.
>>80650517
> thought it was fear over mass-shootings, in areas such as schools and universities.
You could "mass shoot" people just as effectively with a pistol. Even with a bolt action you could kill a LOT of people in a gun free zone, because people are disarmed and aren't going to interfere with you while you reload or engage the action, they're typically running or hiding, and probably really wishing they had a gun. Gun free zones don't work unless you can turn the whole country into one.
>>80650826
They could always steal them or buy them on the black market.
We're fortunate that most of these fuckers aren't very smart, but some are.
>>80639433
>the last vestige of yuro smugness dashed upon the rock of American exceptionalism
>>80651475
The "gun free zone" is one thing that definitely needs to be eliminated!
>>80651227
The gun grabbers spent the better part of the 20th century trying to ban handguns and got nowhere. They're simply too popular.
They shifted to "assault weapons" in the late '80s specifically because they were the least popular rifles in the country. One badly written assault weapons ban later and now they're the most popular rifles in the country.
The gun grabbers simply haven't caught up with the times. Hell, they're still posting posters that include gun violence stats from West Germany.
>>80651475
>You could "mass shoot" people just as effectively with a pistol.
I realise this, my friend, I said so in the post you are replying to.
>Gun free zones don't work unless you can turn the whole country into one.
Which is what has been done in Britain, fairly successfully.
>They could always steal them or buy them on the black market.
Most weapons are stored in gun lockers and things like that, and again it's quite a risk to attempt to rob a place (such as a gun store) that is armed to the teeth.
A weapons black market doesn't really exist in Britain. We have the fortune of being surrounded by our patrolled moat. When weapons are smuggled in, they are usually ridiculously expensive because supply is so low.
>>80650997
>>80650361
> ... especially considering how this country was formed.
By a genocide of amerindians. You are a nation of slayer progeny and your national karma is having rights but lacking freedom due to your guns...
> ... So the government can set the standard for what is considered psychologically fit to own a gun?
> Do you really not see how that might be abused?
It is not abused. Our country is top-ten in the world for safety. No negroes here, and gypsies not armed. 3-4% of people have arms, most who strive for it (usually hunters and sportsmen)...
Here, you must not use a gun on a burglar, it would be an inadequate defense and it is punishable.
Then there are no such things as "trespassers will be shot". Then I am much more free to walk anywhere (where there is not a strong fence) and need not be afraid of being shot, neither accidentally or deliberatelly.
Then the police is really polite. No such things as police brutality toward civilians. If ever, they politely ask my ID, need not be afraid of me shooting on them, need not touch me by a hand or even cry with a loud voice...
>>80652421
>By a genocide of amerindians.
Subhumans aren't people.
>>80651972
And don't forget to thank President Obama!
If Trump gets elected gun sales will probably tank...
2015/16 NICS background checks:
May/15 = 1.6 Million - New Record
June/15 = 1.5 Million - New Record
July/15 = 1.6 Million - New Record
Augest/15 = 1.7 Million - New Record
September/15 = 1.8 Million - New Record
October/15 = 1.98 million - New Record
November/15 = 2.24 Million - New Record
December/15 = 3.3 Million - New Record
January/16 = 2.55 Million - New Record
February/16 = 2.61 Million - New Record
March/16 = 2.52 Million - New Record
April/16 = 2.15 Million - New Record
May/16 = 1.86 Million - New Record
June/16 = 2.13 Million - New Record
>>80652509
By "subhumans" you mean the shooters, or the great indigenous people with nature-friendly life-styles ?!
>>80652665
>muh peaceful savage fairy tales
Eurocucks always make me laugh.
YES AMERICA LOOK AT MY GUN LAWS IN MY 99.9% WHITE COUNTRY WHY DONT YOU DO THE SAME THING THERE WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG.
:^) Kill yourself, retard. I've been laughing nonstop reading stories about yurofaggots getting stabbed, raped, and killed by niggers and sandniggers they're importing. You've made it illegal to defend yourselves and it couldn't be funnier.
Not to get the whole black crime thing started but facts are facts.
>>80649168
>>80633304
How about Knife Control huh?
Because you were so stupid to give up your guns, that now they're gonna come and take away your KNIVES too.
Give me a fucking break.
Back when things were so simple :)
>>80638458
Hitler invented the phrase for the late WW2 weapon the Stg. 44. The "Storm Rifle".
It was a Fully Automatic rifle (ie, machinegun) with a 30 round magazine that fired rounds a slight bit less powerful than the ones the AK shoots.
Notice Fully Automatic.
Thats an assault weapon.
It has to be fully automatic.
None of those have been used for mass shootings in the united states.
I like the idea of the common man being able to defend himself, as well as local militias being set up to protect communities.
>>80653931
No they're not, Burger, don't be dumb.
You have to be 18 or over to buy a knife at the moment. Maybe you consider that totally Orwellian, but it was done in an effort to counter the gangster movement imported from your wonderful country, and the diversity imported from across the globe.
The Virginia Tech shooter killed 33 people.
With a semi-automatic Glock pistol.
Chambered in 9mm.
Thats nowhere near the definition of an assault weapon.
Also a sherrif created a video presentation in the 90s showing that high capacity magazines make no difference. It takes such a small amount of time to reload compared to aiming your shots that there was virtually no difference between 10 rounders and 30 rounders.
In fact larger magazines tend to jam more frequently than smaller ones because of spring tension issues.
>>80651972
Ironically its the Pistols that NEED to get banned... handguns always have been a military firearm... they were invented for the Cavalry.
But ultimately the weapons they want to ban are the high powered rifles... 308 caliber and 338 caliber and higher
Because officials and military are vulnerable to getting shot by those, either because they naturally blow through body armor or because they have great range.
And they dont want anything impeding their ability to dictate totalitarian control.
Sporting Rifles are also great for home defense and for defense against dangerous animals (I think this one guy put down a charging Grizzly Bear with 7 shots semi-auto from a 5.45mm AK type rifle). So they have a beneficial role.
>>80639196
Come to michigan, you nigger. Well go shoot and drink and grill meat for a long weekend. My arsenal is broad.
>>80633304
BAN ASSAULT CRISPS
>>80639666
Oy vey, remember the 10.2 quintillion goy
Lol poor britfags aint gots no freedoms
>>80642699
We don't have the death penalty up here. If you kill the criminals, they win.
>>80642632
Exactly.
>>80656035
>Ironically its the Pistols that NEED to get banned
No they don't faggot.
>>80633304
I honestly think they should be more widely available. The more I discuss this and the older I get, the more I think this way.
Of course, since I grew in a country where guns are quite common, but heavily regulated, the thought of everyone owning a gun felt kind of scary. I've come around to the idea later.
Some basic, common sense gun control is in order. After all, weapons are a pretty serious thing, and shouldn't be something a kid with mental issues can get.
>>80635135
Obviously not as good but have got or considered an air pistol or air rifle. For learning to shoot the principles are more or less the same and dont need a license (except scotland). They are safer regarding backstops etc.
>>80633304
Best gun for the money, saddenly black panthers ruined the sks image, but they usually use cheap ass chinese export
>>80640795
Its semi auto, stop lying sven
>>80647663
Yeah but it takes months on end and money and gun clubs
>>80637717
The americans have held on to their rights a lot better than we have you idiot. With gun control we gave up our only real deterrent of government overtly meddling with our lives. C-51 and other policies would never exist if more people owned firearms. We seriously need to turn our country around from this nanny state socialist politically correct feminist hellhole we're becoming. No more commie bullshit gun control, less taxes, less government and less regulation. I want the ability to defend my home from home invaders by whatever means I deem necessary, criminals don't get to argue about escalation of force. I want to see the welfare state gone and see murderers hanged for their crimes.
I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK
>>80641444
Nice trips ya got there.
>>80639272
I'd rather be a bit chubby and free than enslaved and hopeless just because you enjoy your shitty pseudo communist-socialist neurotic dream
>>80640518
>Switzerland
is an exception
Funnily enough though they're culturally much better than the rest of europe, and surely based on their culture of requiring EVERYONE to go into training will be what saves them, as it has so far up to now.
>>80637717
>(((Tavor)))
Also nice prostate massager.
>>80633304
Gun control can't and has never worked.
