Why did Hitler invade Poland first?
Were the jews already trying to destroy the white race when the Nazis took power?
>>80552279
dude, they shot first, we were just defending the German people!
>>80552279
Cause of the Danzig massacre.
>>80552279
Because German people were being slaughtered by the Polish, his hand was forced.
>>80552279
Polish communists were massacring German people
And keep in mind that much of Poland was part of the German empire before the Treaty of Versaillis
>>80552279
Poland refused to even sit down and talk about the majority German areas stolen from Germany. East Prussia was cut off from the rest of Germany and the Poles refused to allow a highway or rail line to connect it with the rest of Germany.
>>80553811
wtf i hate Poland now.
>>80552488
Ok next question
Why is Poland the only european country that is still 100% white?
>>80553060
This, over 6 gorillion Germans were instantly incinerated by the Polish president himself, so Hitler had no choice but to invade and turn every Polish city into ashes and massacre civilians during occupation.
>>80552279
>Why did Hitler invade Poland first?
You have this backwards.
Poland was the first to resist. He annexed Austria and Czechia.
>>80553220
You're confusing post-WW2 Polish borders with pre-WW1 Polish borders. Most of interwar Poland was former Russian empire.
>>80554486
>pre-WW1
pre-WW2
>>80552279
Poland was making soap bars out of innocent germans
>>80552488
>>80553060
This is delusional, that was only a small reason, hitler wanted poland either way
>>80554602
Poles were eating German babies t.b.h.
>>80554088
>Why is Poland the only european country that is still 100% white?
Creating ethnically homogeneous countries was seen as something which would promote peace in the east.
>>80554486
He is referring to the areas of Poznan, Pomerelia etc. that Poland gained after the Greater Poland Uprising, which was by no means 'stealing' the land. Keep in mind that Germany lost this war anyway and was bound to lose territory, and these areas were Polish majority and occupied during the partition of Poland in 1792.
>>80552488
>shot first
that was a false flag op.
anyways, western poland had a bunch of german speaking aryans and poland in general had a bunch of natural resources the nazi's needed for their future war plans. the millions of ostjuden were to be moved out.
HE WAS A GOOD BOI WHO DIN DO NUFFIN POLES WUZ LITERALLY EATIN GERMAN BABIES N SHEEEET ALSO DANZIG WAS GERMAN BECUZ DEY DUN TOOK IT OVER IN DA 1800S AND IT WAS PART OF PRUSSIA FO LIKE 3 YEARS AND SHEEET
>>80557416
spoken like a true American
>>80554762
>Poles were eating German babies t.b.h.
This seems factual.
>>80554718
>hitler wanted poland either way
What the fuck was Hitler going to do with Poland, you delusional fuckwad? Throw a Pole party? Fucking idiotic. What makes Hitler responsible for everything?
>>80557416
>POLES WUZ LITERALLY EATIN GERMAN BABIES
Strangely this actually confirms the Poles eating German babies factoid.
and everyone forgets that stalins russia also invaded eastern poland at the same time. france and never declared war on russia for its aggression. and then russia started bombing finland. the fins actually thought the russians were doing it by mistake... look up molotov-ribbentrop agreement.
Because Poland was a creation of the treaty, and hitlet was mocking the treaty. Also jews
>>80552488
>>80552944
>>80553060
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Himmler
Nope, lol
>>80553220
Poles were almost as antisemitic as the nazis
>>80553811
And with a perfectly valid reason. Look at what Germany did to the Munich teaty. Hitler showed again and again that paper meant nothing to him
>>80552279
documents from the diplomatic service discovered years after the war revealed that he was actually negotiating secretly with the poles for like 3 years to arrange some kind of anti-ussr alliance or to at least allow German troops to transit their territory, but they repeatedly declined
Hitler gave up and negotiated the molotov-ribbentrop pact instead
>>80558449
>poles are not real
>>80558042
>france and never declared war on russia for its aggression.
realpolitik.
>>80558867
>German troops to transit their territory, but they repeatedly declined
With good reason. Look up what happened to Czechoslovakia after the Munich aggrement
>>80558820
Perhaps Pilduski should have allied with Hitler like Mussolini, Horthy, Cuza, and Hrvatska had.
>>80558820
>>80559032
>>80559140
Now this man is intelligent.
Finally someone to counter shitty arguments with facts.
>>80559171
>alliance with Hitler
Only a mad dog would ally with another mad dog. Also have you ever heard of lebensraum?
>>80559335
Not inteligent, just a little well informed in WW2. I absolutely love WW2 threads, because i know more then pretty much everyone in here.
For a place filled with hitleraboos it's crazy the amount of ignorance around WW2.
>>80559338
Funny accusation coming from a once colonial power whose children all are dysfunctional.
>lebensraum
You mean retaking national borders?
>>80552279
Because Germany had an inefficient agricultural sector and needed land.
>>80552279
Because the German "People" have always been subhuman.
>>80552279
Germany and Russia agreed to both invade Poland on the same day and split the territory between each other.
The day that they were both supposed to invade, Russia backed out stating they weren't yet prepared for the invasion, making Germany look like the aggressors and making Russia (who invaded three weeks later) look like Poland's rescuers.
>>80557980
>This seems factual.
source?
>What makes Hitler responsible for everything?
Because he was the leader and he allowed. Hell, he even encouraged in a speech to the generals pre-invasion
Hitler thought the Allies wouldn't declare war on him, because they would also be expected to declare war on the USSR, which would have been an unwinnable war. Hitler was wrong.
>>80552279
Probably because they had the largest jewish population.
>>80559702
>Funny accusation coming from a once colonial power whose children all are dysfunctional.
ad hominem
>You mean retaking national borders?
HAHAHAHHAHA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum
>>80560012
>Russia backed out stating they weren't yet prepared for the invasion
They were handling the far eastern front with Japan.
>>80559702
>You mean retaking national borders?
>Warsaw and Krakow were ever on German territory
The only major former German city that was under Polish control after WW1 was Poznan. Gdansk was semi-autonomous. Comperatively little of interwar Poland was formerly German territory and definitely very little of it was ethnically German.
>>80552279
>Why did Hitler invade Poland first?
Polish killed german citizens
>Were the jews already trying to destroy the white race when the Nazis took power?
Yes
>>80552279
It isn't invading if it's already yours.
>>80560370
>Polish killed german citizens
source?
>>80552279
In case anybody still needed proof that the Nazi invasion of Poland was completely justified:
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm
172 pages filled with documentation of Polish atrocities against German and German speaking civilians. This is in '39 alone. Not even including violence against Germans in Prussia post WW1.
>pic also related
>>80560440
http://imgur.com/a/S4DKI
>>80560420
which it wasn't in any sense
>>80560289
If you support the idea of nation states, you should re-examine your support for an imperialist like Hitler.
>>80560541
You expect me to read german and understand what is written in there?
>>80560507
Hitler was an imperialist. War or annexation was inevitable. The only difference between Poland and Czechia was that Poland fought back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum
DANZIG IST DEUTSCH
>>80560289
Wow, you totally forgot to post ethnic percentages in these areas.
>>80560252
Thank you for the wikipedia link mr. ww2 historian pro
>>80560895
In terms of architecture, the old town is Flemish.
>>80560974
>Wow, you totally forgot to post ethnic percentages in these areas.
Wow, you posted absolutely nothing because you're just parroting other crackpots.
>>80560786
>killing civilians is inevitable because National Socialist Germany would have invaded
Move those goal posts m8, it's the go-to tactic for anyone who can't refute facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/plebbit/
>>80560974
>muh i will dismiss wiki because i am a retard who doesn't know what wiki is
>but i will totally trust sourceless /pol/ infographs
>>80561161
>>80560507
THis is a bullshit lie and you know it. Hitler had broken every promise he made with Britian and France, why would Poland believe him.
>>80561167
>portunegro
>>80561421
>>80561288
>no refutations
>no sources
>buttblasted brainwashed plebbitards
Try harder.
>>80561435
>designating shitting olympics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVEnDPkMJ6Q
>>80561503
>australian poster
>>80561553
Your country will be like Brazil in less than a decade and you welcome it with open arms
>>80561503
>>no refutations
By 1939 every sane leader had already figure out hitler wanted nothing but war
>>no sources
Go read a history book that wasn't revise by some Nazi weeabo.
>>80561671
We'll have more mexicans and fewer niggers maybe.
>>80561615
>can't refute sourced arguments
>memes will save me
Typical leaf poster, struggling with that cognitive dissonance it seems m80.
>>80561733
>no sources
>appeal to authority
Top laff, Burger education
>>80561772
>i don't have that half-blood subhuman, i have THIS one
>>80561904
Attention all Libertarians. Gary Johnson has SOLD OUT to Soros and company. Don't waste your vote, VOTE TRUMP 2016!
Watch short video with proof.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjrfw21HjkQ
>>80561772
>fewer niggers
It doesn't work that way, maplenigger.
The poor people of all ethnic backgrounds (i.e. nigs and beaners) always grow larger and the middle/upper classes (whites) decrease in number. Always.
>>80561830
I can't wait until China stops buying your coal and real estate and you turn back into a shithole, with your worthless nigger tier economy.
And remember, don't sleep on the road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qClBRaretEk
>>80558820
>>80557261
>>80559335
fuck off jidf
>>80561988
>more memes
>this will show him
o i am laffen, how new are you that you think this works? Keep that Holohoax dream alive in your mind m8, it's funny watching libcucks double down on the propaganda they've been fed since birth.
>>80554454
sure
>>80562197
>>80554486
He didn't annex them he invaded them.
>>80554762
That's interesting. Would like to read up on that further. Do you have any sources?
>>80562464
It must be strange coming over from plebbit and having your pathetic arguments destroyed, I don't blame you for lashing out like a child.
>>80561167
>The historically Prussian regions of Lower Silesia, East Brandenburg, Pomerania and East Prussia were almost completely German by the High Middle Ages. In other areas of modern-day Poland there were substantial German populations, most notably in the historical regions of Pomerelia, Upper Silesia, and Posen or Greater Poland. Lutheran Germans settled numerous "Olęder" villages along the Vistula River and its tributaries during the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries. In the 19th century, Germans were actively involved in developing the clothmaking industry in what is now central Poland. Over 3,000 villages and towns within Russian Poland are recorded as having German residents. Many of these Germans remained east of the Curzon line after World War I, including a significant number in Volhynia. In the late 19th century, some Germans moved westward during the Ostflucht, while others were settled in Central Poland by a Prussian Settlement Commission. After the creation of the Second Polish Republic, large numbers of ethnic Germans were forced to leave, especially in the Polish Corridor area.
Shit Portunigger what are you doing.
>>80562579
The part about eating babies? Here's the primary source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfr64zoBTAQ
>>80562605
I hate Australia and everything in it.
>>80552279
Hitler was always spittin the truth
>>80562770
>I hate
O you poor baby, I apologize for challenging your firmly entrenched views. Ill remember that leafs are incapable of intelligent discussion next time I run into one of you spineless cucks
Why do Australians hate Canadians?
Why do Canadians hate Australians?
When are you guys invading each other?
Let's get this WW3 thing started.
>>80562723
You didn't even read your quote.
>In other areas of modern-day Poland
As I mentioned in this thread, you dumb amerfats don't bother looking up maps. Poland was moved westward after WW2.
>>80560786
>Hitler was an imperialist
I'm guessing you didn't know that there was a 2 year civil war in Germany before ww2 lead by the sneaky jews and commie russians, and that less than 10% of Germans were in education/had jobs at the time... Do your research, don't spout jewish memery.
>>80562950
>>80563097
>Hitler wasn't an imperialist
>Hitler didn't annex Austria, Germany
>Hitler didn't invade Poland, France, Soviet Union, etc.
>>80563281
>Austria,Germany
Austria,Czechia*
>>80562492
Austria was annexed. Sudentenland was annexed too. Only Moravia and Bohemia were made a protectorate. Wartheland, Danzing-West Prussia were annexed too.
>>80563136
>>80563281
>>80563319
>this emotionally indoctrinated leaf
Top kek
>>80562950
ohhh poor baby. Australians can't into intelligent discussion.
>>80563403
>>80563450
>>80563497
>leafs struggling to refute Polish atrocities
>leafs struggling to into discussion
>leafs being leafs
>>80562723
so? What is your point? There were german in interwar Poland
>>80563097
>I'm guessing you didn't know that there was a 2 year civil war in Germany before ww2 lead by the sneaky jews and commie russians, and that less than 10% of Germans were in education/had jobs at the time... Do your research, don't spout jewish memery.
So? What as this got to do with anything. And Hitler almost completely destroyed german higher education
>>80563021
You don't know what you are talking about obviously.
>Posen, Upper Silesia, Pomerania, etc.
>not controlled partly or completely by 1933 Poland
For fucks sake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Comintern_Pact
Pilduski should have just fucking signed it.
>Muh Lebensraum
Well instead of German dick they ended up taking Soviet cock, which you probably have a taste for too.
>>80563574
>>leafs struggling to refute Polish atrocities
What polish atrocities?
>>80563574
>Polish atrocities
The orthography?
>leafs and britstars going at it
never seen anything like it, m7
>>80563574
Nazis were bad ok. If they are willing to gas 6 million Jews because they're Jews, enslave French people because they are French, and torture people because they aren't Germanic then what makes you think they wouldn't invade Poland?
>>80561733
>Hitler wanted nothing but war
"We must stop this peace plan from going public, or the public may side with Germany" - W.Churchill on the 16 point peace plan.
Germany was founded by the americans to fight communism, they were another puppet state. The only purpose Germany served was to destroy the commies, and give Jews more political power. The Capitalist kikes and the Commie yids hate each other. Once germany became too powerful, USA puled funding and invaded, knowing that Germany found out about the pending commie invasion from russia, Germans, staying true to their almost exclusively selfless cause, knowingly threw away a war that they were winning, to save all of Europe from the commies in case of the slim chance that they did not win. The German people had lived through communism, 12% of their income was through prostitution. They died for a selfless cause, and the devil-sent kikes convinced the world that those who were willing to give up world domination, to secure the freedom of the European people, go down in history as bad people. The nazis were fucking heroes. R.I.P. Hitler, Goering, Goebbels. (not really Himmler, he was actually kinda nasty.) and most of all Rommel. They legitimately died for our sins, and we spit on their tombs...
>>80563656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBwm-QPs-E8
>>80563677
>>80563687
>struggling
Source here portufag. >>80560507
>>80563724
>dem ebul nachees gazzed 60 billion innocent kikes
>no sources
>just believe
Try again plebbit.
>>80563574
>Polish atrocities
Got a source thats not a youtube video?
>>80563929
>>80563929
>no sources
Oh god pleb pleb pleb.
Besides Hitler hated Aussies and wanted to wipe everyone off it and make it an island where only pure Aryans would reproduce.
>>80564009
>>80563951
>>80564008
>leafs memeing
>again
It is no wonder we don't take you seriously, try harder m80's
>>80564126
>>80563730
>"We must stop this peace plan from going public, or the public may side with Germany" - W.Churchill on the 16 point peace plan.
source?
>Germany was founded by the americans to fight communism, they were another puppet state. The only purpose Germany served was to destroy the commies, and give Jews more political power. The Capitalist kikes and the Commie yids hate each other. Once germany became too powerful, USA puled funding and invaded, knowing that Germany found out about the pending commie invasion from russia, Germans, staying true to their almost exclusively selfless cause, knowingly threw away a war that they were winning, to save all of Europe from the commies in case of the slim chance that they did not win. The German people had lived through communism, 12% of their income was through prostitution. They died for a selfless cause, and the devil-sent kikes convinced the world that those who were willing to give up world domination, to secure the freedom of the European people, go down in history as bad people. The nazis were fucking heroes. R.I.P. Hitler, Goering, Goebbels. (not really Himmler, he was actually kinda nasty.) and most of all Rommel. They legitimately died for our sins, and we spit on their tombs...
Holy fuck, you are indoctrinated. Do you actually believe this copy pasta?
>>80563929
So are you expecting me to read a 172 page book to prove your point?
>>80564126
If this was anything other than 4chinz I would have called the ADL already.
>>80563730
>Britbro
>"We must stop this peace plan from going public, or the public may side with Germany" - W.Churchill on the 16 point peace plan.
>>80554088
Even if the Poorlacks wanted migrants to come to their country, no migrant is going to settle in Poorland when Rich Daddy Deutschland is willing to be their sugarvater.
>>80563806
You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.
>muh six gorillion australians killed by emus
never 5get
F
>>80564408
>>80564205
>>80564262
>leafs trying their hardest
Good show... I guess
>>80564240
>expecting me to read
Oh I'm sorry m8, I didn't realize you were after a simple infographic that you could refute, unfortunately I linked you a source document which is central to my argument that you simply cannot be bothered to read?
Maybe you should read it before you continue this argument or concede that what I am asserting did happen due to the source provided. Your choice.
>>80564373
*zuckervater
>>80564570
>2016
>still falling for hitler dindu nuffin meme
only muricans and canadians can be so retarded
>>80564570
>Oh I'm sorry m8, I didn't realize you were after a simple infographic that you could refute
So the only proofs of the germans massacres are in that book? Hmmmmmm, it sounds kinda of strange...
>I linked you a source document which is central to my argument that you simply cannot be bothered to read?
It0s 172 pages long. It takes some effort, especially when there is so much better books out there and in my waiting list. Link me a page/pages and i can read
>>80564905
don't forget the spiders itt.
>>80565025
>i can't read a source document
>show me
Every page has something of value for people like you m8, stop being lazy.
>>80565154
Why read a book where you can descend into Agartha and ask directly?
>>80565444
when*
>>80565154
Let me get this straight. You are making wild claims, and when i asked you for a source you linked me to a book. It's not like that that this works. You can use a book as a source, but you have to provide the page, since nobody is expected to read a whole fucking book just to prove your point.
But go ahead and declare victory. Yet in the end you are just another hitleraboo who when pressed to present sources gives infographs, links dubious books without page, call me JIDF...
Also adress this
>So the only proofs of the germans massacres are in that book? Hmmmmmm, it sounds kinda of strange...
>>80566055
Address this
>so a source is provided which documents atrocities that you are trying to refute yet you wont examine the source to determine whether your stance needs to change
You plebbitards need to be hand fed it seems.
>pic also related because your lazy ass can't into opening a source
Try harder.
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities_p215-218.htm
>>80564240
My great grandfather, ser Frederick E.R.D, was an air commodore in the RAF, he was very high in command during the battle of Britain, so essentially won the war for the allies. He earned the 23rd highest number of medals in WW1 and WW2 combined. He was one of the leading battalion commanders during the final push, and I learned most of what I know from him, as well as many of his other friends I have talked to, as this happens to be an interest of my own. Why do you think the British hated the Americans so much during the war? Why do you think they are so secretive about where Germany got it's finance? Do you think they fucking magicked it out of their assholes over night? No, it was supplied to them, as they were under a military production curfew, and their country was packed with Allied spies after WW1.
It is not copied nor pasted, I wrote it out myself, perhaps quite sloppily as it is fuck off o'clock in the morning and I am near enough blackout drunk. I have seen proof, might post some tomorrow, just for the bants, don't care if I get into shit. but I am not an active /pol/ user, so I don't know.
>>80566416
>Address this
Already did. Give me the page where the source is.
>You plebbitards need to be hand fed it seems.
>y u no rid a 172 paige bouque!?!??!?!? xD
>http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities_p215-218.htm
>pictures are proof somehow
You know pictures can be falsibly atributed?
And the bromberg massacre is accepted. But it was after the german invasion
So what where and when were the german massacred?
>>80566761
So come back when you have proofs for your outlandish claims
>>80566863
>what where when
In the source m8, its quite funny watching you rationalize your way out of addressing the source correctly. Ill wait for you to start discussing this honestly.
>>80564240
Also, world's population before ww2 was under 2bil, europe is about 1/10th of world's population, just under, call it 200mil. Still being generous here, as I will continue to be, in order to sympathize with the sneaky kikes. about 1/3rd of Europe's population was under nazi control, but we will call it 1/2 to be giga-generous towards kike lies, now we have 66mil people in all of nazi occupied Europe, be nice and call it 70mil, now out of those countries, apparently only 2 countries had death camps. So you are telling me, that if they had not deported a single jew (which they did, almost all of them,) that they would have a 10% Jewish population, and kill every last one of them? That does not REMOTELY fucking work, sort your life out, and stop falling for blatant lies. Just try to refute it, the text is there plain and simple for you to reread as many times as you want, might drum some logic into that thick left wing skull of yours... Cunt.
>>80567097
adresss this
>So the only proofs of the germans massacres are in that book? Hmmmmmm, it sounds kinda of strange...
and this
>pictures are proof somehow
>You know pictures can be falsibly atributed?
While i check your "sources".
>>80567007
Not at all outlandish, 10 minutes and a laptop are all you need. Killing 6million people which could not have existed in any fucking realm of drug abuse or reality is 10000000000000% more absurd than anything I said.
Do you really think america would fail to abuse a puppet state with hard, pissed off workers, a cesspit of degeneracy and commie violence after 2-3 years of civil war? The americans hate the commies and the commie Jews, the Germans were a perfect allie. America does it all the time. Also, where the fuck do you think the world's most powerful army came from, and where do you think it went? Do you think it is a coincidence America did nothing to aid the Allies until the point where the Germans could contest USA? You really are a bit fucking slow, aren't you? I'm monged right now, and still parring you.
>>80567097
It's just pictures and accounts of atrocities commited AFTER the german declaration of war.
> europe is about 1/10th of world's population, just under, call it 200mil.
Not before WW2. Europe population before ww2 was slighlty lower then modern europe population
>about 1/3rd of Europe's population was under nazi control, but we will call it 1/2
You mean 4/5 at least, if you count italy as nazi controlled
>So you are telling me, that if they had not deported a single jew (which they did, almost all of them,) that they would have a 10% Jewish population, and kill every last one of them? That does not REMOTELY fucking work, sort your life out, and stop falling for blatant lies.
What are you trying to say?
>>80567519
>Killing 6million people which could not have existed in any fucking realm of drug abuse or reality is 10000000000000% more absurd than anything I said.
>pre war Polish/USSR/German census were jewish lies
lel
>until the point where the Germans could contest USA?
>Germans could contest USA
lel
>>80567779
some of this for
>>80567218
>>80567314
Also, you are retarded. fucking anyone can find proof with a single 10 second google search, many of which are on official websites with verified documents to back them up... Fucking idiot, you don't even want to learn about the fucking war, you just talk shit in a field you have made no effort to educate yourself in.
Fucking lefties are so pathetic, why do you WANT the nazis to have been really nasty? Why do you WISH that the holocaust killed millions (impossible) rather than a couple hundred thousand max? The persecution is the bad part, not the number, they have shown the will to do it, but it was NOT 6 million. I will agree that the nazis commited atrocities, but from what I heard from patton, my grandfather, great grandfather and many other military officials, the Germans maintained a moral highground throughout, as we always stooped three steps lower than the nazis ever could. The bank was threatened, so it attacked the enemies, and brainwashed you idiots commie "crush the establishment and the banks in the name of lying jews who come from banker families" idiots.
EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE ARGUING, SO THAT WE CAN BOTH COME INTO THE DISCUSSION WITH AN OPEN MIND, AND LEAVE HAVING LEARNED SOMETHING, POSSIBLY HAVING CHANGED OUR MINDS ON A FEW THINGS AFTER LEARNING FACTS FROM OTHER PERSPECTIVES. THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF A DISCUSSION, YOU LEFT WING MONGOL.
thank you.
>>80567938
You are either a fucking idiot, or you did not understand something very simple about the possibility of genociding a "minority" of 6 million people in a country with a population of just under 20 million, along with a couple other countries, after many were already killed, there had just been a typhus epidemic which effected jewish people to a far greater extent, most of the jewish population left after being warned that they should fuck off, and most of the remaining ones were kicked out... Is that hard to understand? Because it doesn't seem very fucking hard to understand...
Fun fact, hitler had over two thousand germans arrested for attacking jews during crystal nacht, he did not condone of extreme antisemitic behavior, as much as the jews had fucked over him and his country.
>>80568086
>EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE ARGUING, SO THAT WE CAN BOTH COME INTO THE DISCUSSION WITH AN OPEN MIND,
Aah think like you do and we can have a (((disucssion)))
>>80567938
Germans could contest USA, as most of the allies were beginning to side with Germany, and USA has most of it's military power invested in European production and Western asian oil at the time, both of which were controlled by the axis until they went on an offensive to fuck communism in a one way blitzkrieg. These people watched their friends bleed in the mud for your luxury, gave up the strongest army in the world, when it was beginning to become the greatest political influence in the world, and you speak of them like this. You are a fucking twisted person, I wish they just nuked the rest of the world sometimes, if only Hitler was actually tough on the kikes, and went for all out war to catch the brits off guard instead of trying to propose peace, might have had less ungrateful scum cunts like yourself in the world thinking you live a hard life because you have to take out the bin once a week for your pocket money. You are not worthy of the title of being an ancestor of the great european race, nor any other form of humanity. A man with no pride is no man at all.
>>80568086
>Private americans "funding" Nazi != American government effort to funding Nazis
Once you have proof or sources that there was a coordinated effort to help the nazi regime by the US government, come back to me
>why do you WANT the nazis to have been really nasty?
I don't. I was unironically a hitleraboo once.
> Why do you WISH that the holocaust killed millions (impossible)´
Why do you think it was impossible?
>the Germans maintained a moral highground throughout
AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
>muh prussian army austerity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_crimes_against_the_Polish_nation
> On August 22, 1939, just before the invasion of Poland, Hitler gave explicit permission to his commanders to kill "without pity or mercy, all men, women, and children of Polish descent or language."
>EDUCATE YOURSELF
>coming from a hitleraboo
>who doesn't provide sources
kek, make me laugh more
>>80552279
Poland held German lands filled with Germans and was oppressing their German minorities.
The Polish state was given several offers that would have resolved the situation reasonably and provided a common front against communism.
>>80567779
Google population 1942, are you telling me 6 billion people died in the war? Look at any fucking population chart... Surely left wing idiots can't be this thick, did you even go through the school system? I'm fucking surprised you can even read at this rate. A 3 second google search would have saved you from the embarrassment of showing that you have absolutely no idea about what you are on about, you think the population before world war 2 was just a "little lower than it is now" and that almost 6 billion died in the war? How fucking thick can a person be... Thank fuck you are most likely too young to vote, and if you aren't, you are probably too fucking fat, retarded and lonely to get down there on your own and put pen to chit...
>tfw Polish immigrant
>start talking to my dad about grandpa and what not last week
>goes on to say how his uncle fought and defended Poland
>got shot in the leg
>got his possition overran
>Germans captured him
>Took him in a camp
>Patched him up and fixed his leg
>Took his gun
>Told him to go home to his family
I wanted to ask my dad more about the war but didn't really fell like pressing the issue...
>>80568508
I would love to have a discussion, because some people actually value both their own education,and the opinions of others, but not when he has just snaked his way over to the computer to spout crap about the population in the 1930's being the same as it is now... How are you defending this idiot?
>>80568459
>a "minority" of 6 million people in a country with a population of just under 20 million,
Poland had a pop of 35 millions before the war. And not all jews were polish. You are forgetting the german ones, he ukrainian ones, the lithuanian ones, the french jews...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Polish_Republic
see also this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen
>Fun fact, hitler had over two thousand germans arrested for attacking jews during crystal nacht
source?
> there had just been a typhus epidemic which effected jewish people to a far greater extent
>concentrate people on terrible sanitarian conditions
>a disease kills huge numbers of them
Who would have guessed amirite guise?
>most of the jewish population left after being warned that they should fuck off
Only the german and austrian ones. And only after they surrender all their properties. The polish ones never had a chance
>>80568811
>Germans could contest USA
They got their ass handed to them by the brits, what makes you think they could rival USA?
>all that ideological ramble
The sweet innocence...
>>80569255
>population in the 1930's being the same as it is now
Nope. Only said that the population wasn't that different from nowadays. And certainly that European pop wasn't 200 millions
>>80569013
>German lands
Ancestral Polish lands held by Prussia for a relatively short period of time.
>filled with Germans
No, pic related.
>oppressing their German minorities.
They weren't treated any harhser than Polish minority in Germany.
>The Polish state was given several offers
After the takeover of Czechoslovakia Hitler lost all credibility. Why should anyone trust him after this?
>>80568938
Not just private Americans, did you try to find any sources? Also, a lot of it was taken through the treasure and written off as private...
No you weren't, although I disrespect most of those fucking nazi obsessed loners who do no research on hitler and just chat shit about how he was super cool because 1488 white master race and shit, you are far too much of a delinquent even for that tier of autism...
Killing 6 million people after having most of them run away, most of the remainder deported, and having a small population in the 2 countries you were persecuting the jews in, and an almost non existent general population in the other 3 countries they were ever recorded transporting jews from to work in the camps.
The Germans did have the moral highground, even my grandmother says that her parents, one of which lost 2 sisters in a concentration camp she was lucky enough to survive through, would rather spend their lives in a german death camp than a month "free" in allied occupied territory, and that their families and the families of those who they knew (I have partly jewish blood, not ashkenazi, so it's not evil :^} ) were only ever mistreated under himmlers command, which is why I think him to be such a scum, I hear the same thing from most people who know the first thing about what happened in the war, or those I talked to who either had, or knew someone who had first hand experience of world war 2. I am not being edgy, both sides were vile, but the germans were mistreated more so than I ever heard an account I trust tell me.
Those crimes were horrible, I will not deny, hitler did say that because he was passionate, as the polish had already done the same to the germans, after months of negotiation by hitler to try to save his people. Do you really think it's a negative for a leader to be passionate about his people? Does a strong leader let his people go to the slaugher, get raped, and brutalized, and turn a blind eye? I think fucking not.
Why were Nazi's such cucks, /pol/?
>>80570010
A self proclaimed drunk Anglo jew.
Wow
>fuck off
>>80569937
Tell me, does this fucking chart look right to you?
Or does it look like sneaky jewish tricks which had to be manipulated and thrown in to support a bold claim?
>>80569444
The disease killed off a lot of them, but nowhere near enough to make a significant impact, I'm agreeing that they were hated, and persecuted against, in large numbers, and it's the intent that counts. I will not deny that they would have killed 50 million of the fuckers if they got their hands on enough, but it just is NOT possible to kill 6 million people who do not exist...
>>80569159
>I wanted to ask my dad more about the war but didn't really fell like pressing the issue...
do it pls
>>80569444
>the polish ones never had a chance
The invasion lasted two fucking weeks with miniscule casualties... you just talk crap that takes 10 seconds to google, and then ask me for the couple of sources i dont give, and you are too autistic to search and see for yourself which are tricky to provide, specially when im giga lazy and monged atm...
The fact that you are more open to learning based on hearsay than you are on educating yourself tells me you are very susceptible to propaganda and probably use facebook as an educational tool to better understand autism politics...
>>80570010
But will you actually provide sources? Or will you continue on rambling?
>>80570367
Give me the source, not screenchot. Also there weren't any census in the middle of the war that i have any knowledge of.
The chart doesn't have anything that looks bad at first notice. Care to explain?
>>80569939
>Ancestral Polish lands held by Prussia for a relatively short period of time.
And it was inhabited by someone else before Poles came. This argument goes all the way back to the time when we humans were ocean dwelling shrews. The point is that Germans farmed the soil there for hundreds of years; it's mystically bound to them much the same as it is to Poles.
>No, pic related.
Your pic literally demonstrated what I said. Poznan and Danzig were filled with Germans.
>They weren't treated any harhser than Polish minority in Germany.
Whatabboutism
>After the takeover of Czechoslovakia Hitler lost all credibility. Why should anyone trust him after this?
Because the alternative was a one world Bolshevik state.
>>80569588
>ass handed to them by the brits
uhm... ok are you taking the piss now? Britain was on the brink of surrender, cardboard cut outs of airplanes brought them just about bought them enough time to survive until germany run out of oil due to going on an offensive and pulling it's army from the oil rich fields of eastern europe.. My grandfather quite likely won us the war, I think I know a little more on the matter than yourself... Fucking idiot. Do you actually receive your education from medal of honor or smth? silly cunt.
>>80570578
source?
>>80570820
>and you are too autistic to search
No, i actually already searched for sources. Like i said, i was once a hitlerabbo. I'm just amusing myself seing you trying to escape your responsability
>any sources?
>y u no gogele yorselefe?!?!?! xD
>The fact that you are more open to learning based on hearsay than you are on educating yourself
Present A source of anything you claimed. I always present sources
>muh kike lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! muh joooooooooos propaganda
kek, you hitleraboos are all the same
>>80570010
>as the polish had already done the same to the germans, after months of negotiation by hitler to try to save his people.
Blatantly false, but try to prove it if you can.
>>80569588
>Ideological ramble
uhm sorry for not wanting to bring everyone down to my low? like you leftie cunts do...
"they work harder than me and have money and are more powerful, that's not fair, give me all ur money too!" fucking idiots
>>80571177
>"they work harder than me and have money and are more powerful, that's not fair, give me all ur money too!" fucking idiots
nice strawman. I will deduce a point becasue of the huge lack of originality
Either way good night, i'm going to bed. HAve a nice hangover hitleraboo
>>80570359
piss off bolshevik cunt, im not proper kike, i didnt even know until my grandad died and i went through records
>>80570821
i given you like 6 sources now what the fuck do you want? you given none, I have given a few. I'm supposed to be the fucking mong here...
>>80570821
WIKIPEDIA WOW THAT WAS HARD
you are an actual fucking delinquent, do you need me to hold your fucking hand through this difficult journey across the keyboard? idiot
>>80571126
You want source on 6 mil people who don't exist?
Sure, lemme just get their birth records up right quick...
>>80570893
>And it was inhabited by someone else before Poles came.
Yes but these are lands were Polish statehood was conceived. so how were they German lands?
>The point is that Germans farmed the soil there for hundreds of years
The point is that they didn't. Prussia held these lands for a little more than century and Germans that ended up there were squatters sent to change the ethnic make-up of those teritorries or germanized natives. Just like kikes in Palestine.
>Because the alternative was a one world Bolshevik state.
From Polish pov it didn't make any difference and Hitler wasn't any more trustworthy than Stalin.
>>80571126
>seeing you trying to escape your responsibility
I have no responsibility, I don't care one bit what you think, i'm just happy having a rant right now desu, good times.
Also, if you can't find ant of these sources in spite of me having practically forced my metaphorical education-cock down your throat in the hope that you might choke on some of my superior aryan knowledge...
>>80571126
>I always present sources
i hope you are taking the piss...
>>80571149
not false at all, that's why germany attacked you silly cunt, and you misquoted me to a fucking extreme extent, liberal detected. Do you not even know hitler's reasons for attacking you hussar fuckers? Even if they were untrue, which I don't believe they were, they were still the reasons he gave... openly... You are some strange kid for not knowing that... Do you think he just kind of pottered in and told he UAPE he got lost?
>>80570893
>Poznan and Danzig were filled with Germans.
Poznan: Germans - 7%
Danzig: not even on the map
Are you blind?
>>80571299
not a strawman, i'm arguing your points as well. Enjoy browsing another thread for another two and a half hours after realizing that you don't know what wikipedia looks like.
>>80572241
Lad...
>>80572187
Post some source for your bs then.
>>80570141
>losing an unfair Battle
>cuck
'murica logic. I guess you also think you won against Japan in an honorable way as well.
>>80572399
You do realize that this is Pomerania without Danzig becasue it wasn't even part of Poland back then?
>>80570820
The campaign lasted a month and it was only that long because the Soviets invaded from the East 2 weeks in.
