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THE TRUTH ABOUT STEFAN MOLYNEUX
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I was a subscriber almost from day 1. Here's what happened...

You might know from his occasional "personal message from Stefan" vids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejZ_R-IrmI0 asking for donations/subscriptions that Stef makes all of his income from youtube ad revenue and donations. He's otherwise a stay at home Dad.

Basically he failed at making philosophy/Libertarianism into profitable youtube content. A review of how it got to this point:

About 9 years ago, he started the channel. It was serious philosophical discussions, lectures ("Intro to" series), conferences, e-books. Great content, awful marketing. He did like 20 vids in a row with him sitting in a car. He'd do a 90 min series called "Free Will" and barely get 1000 views (now still only 3k). He still has many 40+ min videos with viewcounts in the hundreds. After 2 years finally he had his first hit ("The Truth About Voting") and shifted to current events ("True News"). Then he hit a bombshell with "The Story of Your Enslavement". He picked up a ton of subscribers from this. The channel then activated for revenue.

His philosophy content continued to flop though and was hard work. In 2012 his major book attempt "Universally Preferable Behavior" was negatively reviewed at the LVMises Institute. Actually, they utterly and completely trashed it, saying "He fails, and fails miserably. His arguments are often preposterously bad" and calling him "The Molyneux Problem"

1 year ago he posted his first Donald Trump video, and it was downhill from there. Almost every video either sensationalist crap like "Sexual Market Value" or rehashing major current events. At some point he just gave up serious content and just did what was popular. Currently it's justifying racism and shilling for Donald Trump. In the last year his estimated youtube revenue went from $25k/year to currently about $10-15k/MONTH.
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>>80518145
Man's gotta eat.
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Thanks for the theory, but he probably believes what he's saying.
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>>80518145
Seems to be the trend for any controlled right wingers when they talk to the right jews their viewcounts explode
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>>80518145
>Basically he failed at making philosophy/Libertarianism into profitable youtube content
Obviously not seeing as how he is now the biggest philosophy channel on Jewtube, has people talking about him daily both here and on Leddit, has had people like Sargon of Akkad, Alex Jones, and Paul Joseph Watson on his show and has appeared on their shows, and also has almost half a million subscribers.
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>>80518145
>shilling for Donald Trump. In the last year his estimated youtube revenue went from $25k/year to currently about $10-15k/MONTH.
Good for him.

The God Emperor rewards those who are loyal.
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>In the last year his estimated youtube revenue went from $25k/year to currently about $10-15k/MONTH.
[source needed]
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I'm a lazy, useless NEET but something about people earning money from Youtube videos really annoys me when I think about how much time my parents have put into their jobs over their lifetimes. This is especially true for the Youtube stoners who make a killing smoking bongs all day, it really irritates me. At least two of them have literally bought fancy, rich new houses purely on their Youtube revenue.
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>>80518145

Is any of this supposed to be news?

Anyone that is not a summerfag knows this.

Most of /pol/ ridiculed his ass because he was a retarded an-cap.

But his new shpill of processing data in a decent format and going against the media is making him money and it's not bad content, so who cares?

Only annoying thing left with him is: "As a philosopher" being repeated constantly, when he clearly isn't.
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>Currently it's justifying racism and shilling for Donald Trump.
Unbiased data is racist and Hillary is complete garbage, now fuck off snowflake.
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>>80518145
Ok
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>>80518956

That is how the entertainment industry works.

Easy money, for easy jobs. But because of that, most of them are retards with money so they spend it as they get it.
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>>80518145

>Currently it's justifying racism and shilling for Donald Trump.

So you have no argument to repudiate his claims on the differences between races and resort to name calling instead of addressing Trump on his stances.
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>>80518664
>Obviously not seeing as how he is now the biggest philosophy channel on Jewtube, has people talking about him daily both here and on Leddit, has had people like Sargon of Akkad, Alex Jones, and Paul Joseph Watson on his show and has appeared on their shows, and also has almost half a million subscribers.

So...where is the philosophy/Libertarianism content? Not in any videos from him the past 6 months.
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>>80518145
>"He fails, and fails miserably. His arguments are often preposterously bad" and calling him "The Molyneux Problem"

That's not an argument. Stefan always rebuts any real criticism of UPB when people call in. It's solid.
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>>80518956
My sister and her boyfriend recently moved in with me until they get a new apartment and they watch those videos of people smoking bongs.
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>>80519288
Only philosophy that espouses libertarian ideas is philosophy?
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>>80519388
>it's solid because he rebuts his own mouthbreathing subscribers
Www lad
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>>80518145

hi Stefan


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lexhv8MaXQ8
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>>80518836
25,000 1 dolla donations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7XJIioZEgQ
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>>80518145
>estimated youtube revenue

you realize he doesn't have ads on his videos right?
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>>80518145
Dear OP, please consider that race realism, Donald Trump and game encountering scientific basis is not "what is popular." After all, these things get no mainstream media attention excepting hysterical and cultic disapproval.
In fact, it is entirely appropriate that a philosopher should focus on these things, because all three of them have in common that they are philosophy in action, a philosophical revolution, a new Enlightenment.
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>>80518145
>I was a subscriber almost from day 1
>spends 5 paragraphs trashing him
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>>80519288
>So...where is the philosophy/Libertarianism content? Not in any videos from him the past 6 months.

Check the podcast.

>>80519610
Not an argument. Did this institute that OP is speaking with have a debate with Stefan, or did they just call his book a piece of shit? Who runs this institute, probably statists right? So there is a confirmation bias there and they never actually entertained Stefan's ideas about it.
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>>80519152
>So you have no argument to repudiate his claims on the differences between races
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>>80519288

Sexually deviant open boarders cucks are a dime a dozen, go watch their video's if your a left fag libertarian.
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>>80519288
Also you show that you have no idea what you are talking about if you think Stefan is a Libertarian. OP is tremendously ignorant and basically no FDR watcher would change their mind because of this shitty case OP built.
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>>80519973
>the Mises institute is run by evul statists
Wew
You can always tell when someone's entire knowledge of """philosophy""" comes solely from following Stefan
>inb4 le not an argument argument
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>>80518145
The free market fixed him.
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>>80518145
>shilling for Donald Trump. In the last year his estimated youtube revenue went from $25k/year to currently about $10-15k/MONTH
Service to the God-Emperor does not go unrewarded.
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>>80520171

What is that even?
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>>80519973
>mises institute
>statist

Please stop existing.

Also you don't understand how peer review works. Scientists don't do YouTube debates in front of their viewers to determine who's right and wrong based on likes. They write papers where they "trash" one another.
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>>80520171
This makes u have thoughts.
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>>80519288
>So...where is the philosophy/Libertarianism content? Not in any videos from him the past 6 months.

Literally every video is laced with it, or do you just ignore how often peaceful parenting comes up?
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>>80519854
This. Stefbot makes no money from YT. FDR is funded by donations only.
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Just found a podcaster that did an entire 5-part series called "The Fall of Stefan Molyneux."...First episode was in OCTOBER 2015, which is incredible considering how much further Molyneux has fallen since then.

http://choiceconversations.libsyn.com/the-fall-of-stefan-molyneux-there-will-be-no-recovery-part-1
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>>80520387
>>80520554
Okay I checked out their website, these are libertarians. I had not heard of this obscure institution before. So what are their arguments for why UPB is wrong? That is the point of this discussion. They can't just say that the arguments are bad, they have to explain why.
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Stefan Molynjew
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4o2JWmbBSFU
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"Currently it's justifying racism and shilling for Donald Trump"

OP is faggot Bernie Cuck
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>>80518145
I really fail to see the problem here
>tries philisophy
>people don't bother
>tries political and racial philosophie
>people bite

Why would you continue doing something if it doesn't get you anywhere.
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>>80521075
He does more philosophy on his call in show.

And when you are watching his thoughts on any given political issue you are getting the philosophical perspective basically. It's not like he just turns into a sophist when he starts talking politics. But he is definitely not talking about anarchy when he is discussing Trump and fixing America, it is more pragmatic there. Basically if you watch his stuff you have to have a brain to understand these differences.
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>>80518956

DSP became ridiculously wealthy by wanking on camera and being shit at simple console games
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The audience that views his shit now would probably mass dislike his videos if he started talking about ancap stuff because they wouldn't agree lmao.

Look at his comments, surely he notices he's got a bunch of fascists talking about taking commies for helicopter rides. I'm not even sure libertarians watch his channel anymore.
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>>80519388
UPB is a joke. I am willing to forget it to the extent he doesn't base arguments on it. Seems he bases arguments on it less and less, so I won't pick a fight for no reason. He can't repudiate it though since it is a book with his name on it and will defend it if you bring it up, but so far the only people that care to argue about it are his own weird followers. Interviewees have their own points to make and view him as a channel, so won't pick fights about things they don't care about when he goes off on the occasional UPB rant, though audiences may groan.
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He provides a serious quantity of sources and data in nearly every video, he talks to intellectuals and scientists, influential political figures, etc. You mistake him "shilling" for changing his mind and expanding his viewpoints and audience. You're the only shill here, divide and conquer horseshit. Trump is good you faggot.

There's a lot of this stupidity here, oh no someone has capitalized on something, that must make them bad. Socialism has infected your brain.
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>>80521615
lmao why don't you call in mouth breather. I can tell you that that is not an argument.
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>>80518145
Here's what happened:
>be libertarian
>want free, live and let live society
>leftycucks don't want this
>tell leftycucks they can have their tumblrstani wet dream on their own land
>leftycucks still not happy
>leftycucks demonize libertarians as the worst people on earth despite libertarianism never having been tried
>leftycucks avoid addressing socialist atrocities with muh (((not real socialism))) argument

There's only so much you can argue with leftists before you realize they are beyond saving. At that point, you either give up and become a nihilist, or go full fascist because you realize true liberty requres the complete extermination of leftism as an ideology.

>t. libertarian fascist sympathyzer
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>>80520860
>I had not heard of this obscure institution before.
It's quite literally the biggest libertarian think-tank in the world. How can they be considered obscure is beyond me. The fact that you know not of something, does not make that something obscure.

About the arguments, you should probably read the review that OP mentioned. I personally haven't seen it, because I'm not that interested in this theory to read up on refutations. But if it was something I cared about, I'd read what others think about it too.
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>>80521755
Stefan always had people like OP after him. It doesn't seem to be working though because the show is growing larger and larger.
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>>80520621
>This. Stefbot makes no money from YT. FDR is funded by donations only.
>>80519854
you realize he doesn't have ads on his videos right?


Not true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lbm4YiStV4

YT now allows him to hide his monetization status, "For business inquiries: view email address"

Not all vids have ads, he just has to allow a certain % with ads.
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>>80521778
I'd debate him in text, but I won't call into his show.
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>>80521783
This. The left is the cancer that is holding us back
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>>80521783
Only one solution here senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhiZn4Z2HsQ
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>>80520860
>>80521934
You should also look at the YouTube channel Philosophy Lines to get an idea of how generally poor Stefan's argumentation is
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>>80518145
>Universally Preferable Behavior

Isn't that Just Kant's Categorical Imperative?
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I don't know who's jewing who anymore
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>>80520860
>I had not heard of this obscure institution before. So what are their arguments for why UPB is wrong? That is the point of this discussion. They can't just say that the arguments are bad, they have to explain why.

lol....so you are a Molyneux fan and don't know what Mises.org is.... That says a lot about the channel lately.

The review of his book is here: https://mises.org/library/molyneux-problem
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>>80521942
>Stefan always had people like OP after him.

That's called criticism and it's a good thing.

>It doesn't seem to be working though because the show is growing larger and larger.

That's irrelevant. A bad show can grow big. Millions watch John Oliver. And no one said that the critics want his show to die. Wtf?
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wtf, i love stefan now
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>>80518145

I've watched him forever as well. Its simple and he explains this. He wants to provide logical information to his viewers. He found in the market area customers and now he covers modern issues and still shows people how to logically view current issues and still teaches philosophy within it. If you think he is a "shill" for trump, argue his videos and post them. Dont come to 4chan and cry.
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So what? As long as his income doesn't interfere with his content I'm fine with that. If he uses his analysis of sensational news stories as a vector for spreading philosophy, that's a good thing. There is far more applicable use to philosophy when it's being exposed to new people than to the same few people over and over again. Educating the ignorant is more important than re-educating the educated.
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>>80518145

A person's philosophy evolves as they discover actual subjects to question.

You don't step into a new job and immediately know all the right things to do or how to ever approach the questions and issues.

It's more interesting to see a persona's philosophical mind grow and when they finally see things as they should be seen.

While I don't agree with him on everything he is presenting his own case to the world. He likes to use facts which helps however a basic principle of philosophy refutes the concrete identity of factual information. Nothing is exactly what it seems.

Although the more data the more probability of it being true. But it is not ALWAYS true.

Regardless of Stefan's faults. He is doing good for the world.
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>>80520171
>% hitting targets at 16
In what? At gun range?
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>>80522425
OP's criticism is moronic and disingenuous.
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>>80522020
Proof dick head? Anyone can see if a youtube channel is monetized.

Show some evidence that their is a discreet way to monetize a channel that youtube offers.
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>>80518145
A lot of us here on /pol/ started off as libertarians, just like Stefan. Then we gradually gravitated towards racial realism and eventually we arrived at the full-on gas the kikes mode. It's pretty much a natural progression. It happens when you realize that libertarian ideals cannot succeed in a society filled with low-IQ brown people. Then you do some digging and uncover who's really responsible for sending all of these low-IQ brown people into our countries.
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>>80518145
There is literally nothing wrong with this.
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>>80518695

(DU)
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>>80522370
I really was not aware of this institution, probably because I am not a libertarian.

Do you know the name of the communist think tank here in the US?

I would love to see Stefan addressing this article. But ti's just an article and there is no rebut. You need to go watch the actual debates and stop reading one sided arguments.

>>80522425
Calling someone a cult leader is not a good thing.
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Stef is becoming more and more unhinged
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>>80520587
What? Finnish gene branch between Italians and Anglo-Germans and not with Mongols? My (meme) life is a lie!
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>>80522918
>arrived at the full-on gas the kikes mode
Then you would realize that cannot succeed either
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>>80523363
What!? No fucking way, I was so ready for the next coming of Genghis Khan.
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>>80519288
The world is burning down. We don't have time for esoteric topics.
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>>80518145
Although I agree that he's probably making more money now that he talks more about Trump and racial realism, I don't think that he's doing it because he finds it marketable. I think he genuinely believes what he states and puts a fairly good amount of research into his videos. Wouldn't know much about his philosophy book though.
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>>80523118
(((JUDE)))
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>>80523161
Debates.. Where SM is the moderator and he picks who to debate.. Are less reliable than the independent thoughts that someone else put on paper on their own terms. A lot of the answers in most debates are just memes or appeals to the crowd, where a paper can be more objective and detailed. It's actually on Stefan to answer, if he wants.
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Considering that leftists are the ones usually publishing reviews for books and books like Atlas Shrugged also get trashed like they're the Quran or something, I suspect his book is actually ok if not good and his arguments are just too controversial or red pilled. These things usually take time to proliferate so you can't really call it a failed attempt.
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>>80521447
>DSP became ridiculously wealthy by wanking on camera
Seriously? Is this a recent event?
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So? If he's making money doing it what's the problem exactly? Do you expect him to just make autistic philosophy stuff forever and get nothing back, monetarily?

There's a market for this kinda stuff now, and it's at least a better direction than the constant flow towards sjw shit. Pic related.
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>>80520171
>Brits are the dumbest whites
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>>80519288
>So...where is the philosophy/Libertarianism content?
Where is the libertarian content on /pol/? Do you not understand that Western civilisation is going through a paradigm shift? What makes you think popular philosophers wouldn't also be going through the same process?
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>>80523161
He addressed it by pitching a huge fit in his forum backed up by droning fans. There was a bit of a back and forth which went downhill.
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Capitalism is so great, isn't it guys. Makes everything so much better. pst. It has never made anything better
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>>80518145
Dude, he has like 15 fucking years of talking about philosophy/Libertarianism. Its okay if he takes a break. Seriously, stop expecting people to just be a one trick pony. Stefan probably gets bored hammering the same old shit over and over and he clearly wants to make a diffirence.

Besides, Stef is slowly coming to the conclusion that his ancap fantasy will never happen. Not when we have a society full of niggers and shitskins or whites with below 110 iq.

Its a hard pill to swallow but the red pill is something everyone must take if they follow reason and logic.

>>80523660
His books are a little fedora tier but I find them okay.

>>80523296
Hes becoming so unhinged because hes staring into the abyss. You dont walk away from that if your a compassionate and intelligent man.

>>80520657
>Listen to podcast
>This dumb nigger literally says "Much like Hitler" not five minutes into the fucking thing
>mfw
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>>80523161
If you defend your cult leader passionately on the internet, you should at least know a bit more than his views.
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>>80520171
>gipsy
>white
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I would have a problem with that behavior if he wasn't fucking correct about 95% of the shit he says.
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>>80518145

>Stef makes all of his income from youtube ad revenue and donations. He's otherwise a stay at home Dad.

Philosophers don't have / refuse to do jobs.

That's why they have always been hated by society since the Greeks in 400-300BC.

This isn't really an enlightening revelation to anyone who knows about how philosophers operate.
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>>80524302
At the beginning of education, white British are in all-white primary schools and are the top demographic bar none. Then, in high school Brits are surrounded by shitskins in their own ancestral homeland and taught that this land is no longer their land, that their ancestors were evil and oppressed the shitskins' king-like ancestors. Pure coincidence? This leads to psychological demoralisation and a lack of stake in the future.

http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html
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>>80518145
So?

>racism

Fuck off libfag.
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>>80524728

Also this.

Most famous philosophers lived in destitute poverty.
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>>80524087
>Considering that leftists are the ones usually publishing reviews for books and books like Atlas Shrugged also get trashed like they're the Quran or something

Atlas Shrugged is a novel. Does everyone has to like your favorite novel? It's funny that you mention the Quran while being this fanatical over a book..
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>>80524502
Why would I watch his videos and listen to his podcasts if I had already mastered his views? This is a pointless post.


>>80524357
Okay so he did address it. Then OP should go read that and make his own rebuttal.
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>>80524728
>What are reporters, new anchors, political commentators, and a thousand other professions

Stefan contributes a lot more to society with what hes doing now over him being a fucking computer programmer or construction worker.
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>>80518145
Once he had a kid he realized that reality trumps theory.

It's down to racial/genetic survival.

I too was a libertarian for 15 years and finally understood.


Get over yourself
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>>80524093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7NBmFrwKvU
he's far from incredibly wealthy though. he bought a house he can't afford and his viewership is constantly dwindling
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>>80518956
There are one guy like that for then of thousands like him who will not even go past 1000 views.

It's a lot like lottery.
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>>80520171
What does this mean?
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>>80524932
https://mises.org/library/mr-molyneux-responds
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>>80524289
>Car "look at these silly things that happened this week" Benjamin
>philosophy
yeah nah, even holy moly can more seriously claim that he's promoting philosophy
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>>80524728
>>80524854
You have to do philosophy to be a philosopher. Stefan is doing funny faces to get views, like 99% of teenagers on YouTube.
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>>80525075
> must watch
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>>80518145
>butthurt lolbertians
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>>80518956
Lots of people attempted to got lots of money for doing dumb, easy shit throughout history.

Most failed.
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Russ Lindquist is superior. He's probably the best youtuber in their site's history.
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>>80525388
define "doing philosophy"
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>>80518145

leftgroids created echo chamber culture
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>>80518145
>In the last year his estimated youtube revenue went from $25k/year to currently about $10-15k/MONTH.

Fuck yeah, good for him.

You sound like an envious faggot.
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>>80525427
that's just the first one I found, there are other videos of it
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>>80520587
We wuz Iranian and shit. I can't wake up. We wuz Zoroastrian fire worshippers and sheeeit. When will the nightmare end?
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Itt:
People change their views as they get older

WOW AMAZING INSIGHT OP, CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO BLOW THE LID THAT MOST OF US HAD LIBERAL THOUGHTS AT ONE POINT
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>>80525075
I knew abut the house and that everybody is forgetting who DSP is, but the wanking was news to me. kek
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>>80519924
Underrated
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>>80525490
It's already well-defined. The thing is that you can't in any shape or form claim Stefan to be the equivalent of a Stoic philosopher from ancient Greece; he self-promotes mercilessly. You could day that his main job is marketing.
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>>80518956
Some of the Youtube content makers make good stuff and Im led to beleive that it would actually take quite a serious amount of time to make, edit, and market enough videos to post daily to make good money from it. But yes, sadly there's too many channels of people just flicking their webcams on and chatting shit and making good money from it. Boils the blood.
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>>80518145
>Currently it's justifying racism and shilling for Donald Trump.
He doesn't need to justify racism. Black people take care of that themselves.
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>>80519521
Your sister and her boyfriend are losers. Kick them out faggit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUIvmp9b6-M
wew
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>>80525046
Its this sadly.

Like I said, Stefs AnCap ideas are literally high schooler tier. Its almost sad that he champions them so much.

No matter how solid your argument, no matter how strong your evidence, you can't convince anyone below iq 110. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to convince women, blacks, spics, and all the other browns no matter how intelligent they are anyways.

Stefans dreams can only happen in a eugenic 100% white society with high iq and christian morality. Stefan mistakes the world for himself. Its his biggest flaw.

His ego blinded him. I think now he realizes that he is just going to have to fight his battles more realistically.
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>>80518145
You mad because he talked about your low IQ nigger?
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>>80525789
I wasn't claiming that he was equivalent to a Stoci philosopher. Merely that he thinks of himself as a philosopher and philosophers historically don't work / revel in poverty.
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>>80525388
>>80525318

>thinking about philosophical issues as a private citizen is not philosophy

>the only REAL philosophy is into to cultural marxism taught by professor goldberg at goy university for $50000 per term

you dumb fucking goyim are why institutional "education" has a complete stranglehold on academia and they get to decide what ideas or intellectual investigations are legitimate or not
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>>80518145
1. He doesn't monetize his videos, there is no partnership with Youtube, you fucking idiot.

2. He stated himself. He utilizes popular the popular zeitgeist to lure them into philosophy, as motivated by Plato's "Noble Lie"\

I find it hard to believe you actually watch his videos, and conclude you are a 85 IQ retard.
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>>80518145
Did Stefan fuck your girlfriend or something? Why are you so upset?
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>>80526002
AnCap seriously cannot work. I read about it in a /pol/ recommended book. While it sounds epic the very common arguments against it are 100% correct.

It's a neat idea but in reality could never work (until we got Star Trek style replicators).
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>>80518145
>justifying racism is popular
Want to know how I know you don't go outside?
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>>80518145
Not gonna read this thread because what I have to say is more important, but was anyone else weirded out by his hypocrisy's of liberals? Him whispering that one could check ebay for fetus parts was alarmist and immature imo.
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>>80522604
This.
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>>80518145

The Truth about OP
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The problem with Molymeme is that he's not calling out the jew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UjywNCbY8c

Now wether it doesn't fit his agenda or he simply doesn't want to ruin his YouTube career with it (YouTube banning his ad sense account or even his channel for anti-semitism), I don't know. Most content is still pretty good though. And yes, everything is extremely click baiting but that's how YouTube works these day. There's no other way in getting views, nobody cares about the truth or realism per se.
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>>80518145
ppl can change. a lot of what he says is common sense, he is an ally. shills pls go
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>>80520171
>per cent hitting targets at 16

What
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What if the Jewish diaspora headed south instead of north?
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He's a sensationalist that's good for memes

This is the only real philosophy channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTcv3OJIcuY
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>>80524896
Did I strike a nerve, Akmed?
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>>80526110
Stefan does work. He has a ton of Internet platforms. He sells a product online, like many other people. Have you seen those self-help books?
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>>80524896
I don't think he's being fanatical. Atlas Shrugged actually did and still does get a lot of hate by tons of leftists that haven't even read it and just use it as an effigy for right-wing capitalism.
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>>80518145
fucking try hard shills
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>>80518145


>with him sitting in a car
the Paki garage manager always wondered why it took Stefo so long to detail the interiors.
its all coming together now.
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>>80526457
Molymeme calls out the jew almost every show.

Get with the times, people dont say Jew anymore, the new rhetoric is calling them "Globalist" instead. Globalist aren't jews but they just coincidentally are almost completely jewish and operate almost identically to how jews do.

Change the words and you change the whole look. Everyone is doing it.
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>>80526684
He is a capitalist. Self-promotion is a core tenet of his philosophy. Pay debts faggot.
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>>80526637
No, you don't have to like the Quran. It still reads better than Ayn Rand. A common theme between her and Stefan Molyneux is failing at philosophy and acquiring a cult following over something else. It would be better if they had started out as writer/radio producer respectively, because they'd have been more skilled at what they ended up doing. I mean Rand sucks as a writer.
>>80527040
>judging capitalism from a novel
>>80527237
He's a nobody. And you're more of that, "fagget".
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>>80520171
>have high targets because white
>don't quite hit them
>have nig-tier targets because nig
>hit them every time
not rocket science lad
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>>80519288
He actually addressed this in one of his earlier videos. He said that something to the effect of that he had an obligation to talk about these things (US elections, refugees etc) in such a time of uncertainty to make sure the truth comes out.
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>>80523629
Yet we have time for 2 hour youtube videos of rambling and posting happening threads 24/7?
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>>80527417
>I don't have any arguments
>here have some memes instead
Kill yourself.
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>>80527229
Are you new here? Globalist is just a stupid buzzwords to keep retards like you in check. Same with terms like New World Order or Elites. They are all generalizations misleading people from putting their fingers on who's really guility: The jews.
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>>80527417
>he's a nobody
being popular is not a requirement of being a philosopher

you have not stated what you argue defines a philosopher, other than 'it is well defined'. it is obviously controversial, if we're having this debate. define it then.

you have provided no argument for why Molyneux is not a philosopher other than "he is not equivalent to ideal of the ancient greek philosopher"

what is that ideal, why is it definitive, and why does stefan not fulfill it?
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>>80527910
>missing my fucking point this hard

Thats literally what I said Einstein. Globalist are Jews and Jews are globalist. People just say globalist because saying jew is political suicide.
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Not a single argument against the Molymeme in this thread, which is not a surprise.
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>>80528184
No. You play into the Jews hand by not naming the Jew.
All these videos are pointless, because it misleads people into thinking that there's an enemy which doesn't even exist.
It's definitely not a synonym.
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>>80518145
>$25k/year to currently about $10-15k/MONTH.
i dont think he makes this much desu
at best 14,880/month
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>>80528754
you have to ease into it, provide harmless facts and evidence, and let people come to the conclusion themselves. if you just name the jew straight up, people will write you off as an ideologue and tune you out.
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>>80527910
>UK flag falls
>Soros knew back whenever the fuck this 7w was posted
God bless the UK for starting the domino effect on the EU.
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>18 year old lolbertarian op
>not a faggot
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>>80528754
Its always some hyper aggressive fucker like you that misunderstands my post.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense wouldnt name the Jew. It would end their career. Stefan has a reputation to keep and a family to feed. He cant just start spouting Nazi talking points. He will become a pariah and all hes fought for will literally fall apart over night.

Read my post and understand it without just puffing your chest out with internet courage. Globalist is the new word ofr Jew. Anyone with an ounce of sense will pick up on that.
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>>80529566

N-no! If we all just scream at people that we need to gas kikes we'll recruit millions
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Time to bring back the Old Stef. Back when he was fat and talked in front of a red wall.

2007: "Muslims are not your enemy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUIvmp9b6-M
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>>80522208
no they're completely different, universes apart
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>>80522903

I already posted the fucking proof. Here it is again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lbm4YiStV4

This vid has an advertisement. He has them in videos every once in a while. I've watched his vids since 2008, you probably never even heard of him before this year.
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>>80526132
>1. He doesn't monetize his videos, there is no partnership with Youtube, you fucking idiot.

He DOES monetize his videos. Please see proof here

>>80530697
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>>80531215
Stefbots can't handle their leader being insulted.
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>>80518145

I'm waiting for the day Stefan Molyneux makes "The truth about the Holocaust"
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Why the fuck aren't you in the molyneux discord?
https://discord.gg/2ATXDJn
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>>80524854
This is just completely wrong. Plato owned slaves and was immensely respected. Aristotle was the private teacher of Alexander the Great.

Descartes made a fortune before talking about philosophy. Leibniz went from salon to salon to mingle with aristocracy.

Historically, philosophers were rich. Only in recent years are they mostly people of normal wealth.
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>>80520293
>Also you show that you have no idea what you are talking about if you think Stefan is a Libertarian
Uhm... Stefan IS a libertarian...

www.fdrurl.com/free
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>>80520293
>you have no idea what you are talking about if you think Stefan is a Libertarian.

Wow. It really is this bad. You don't know anything about him, do you?

He was the most fundamentalist form of Libertarian possible, a Voluntaryst/Anarcho-Capitalist.
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>>80536858

Anarco capitalism and libertarianism share very few things, and are wholly incompatible with one-another.
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>>80536919
>Implying libertarianism has a strict and specific definition
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>>80537292

If you shuffle around words all day you can make anything sound right

It's best not to get into 'definition' arguments on the internet
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>>80537468
That is literally what you are doing.
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>>80518956

>something about people earning money from Youtube videos really annoys me

I would STRONGLY recommend then that you do not search patreon for 'ASMR'.
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>>80537579

Say that shit to my face kid not online and see what happens.
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Oy vey he's changed his opinions over the course of 10 years, what a goy, we must completely disregard him now.
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>>80537793
M8
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>>80537793
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>>80529799
Being blunt works.
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>>80518145
I'm happy you're doing some digging. People these days seem to get in trouble letting others tell them one version of the facts and taking them at their word.
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Who /defoo/ here?
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>>80537993
>Oy vey he's changed his opinions over the course of 10 years, what a goy, we must completely disregard him now.

The change isn't the issue, it's the motivation behind it and the effects it could have. You think he genuinely agrees with Trump and his bullshit? You think he's actually no longer Libertarian? No, he just sold out. And since he still privately likely knows that government and Trump and statism are wrong and causes of great harm to people, he is knowingly encouraging it. Doing that may not be an enforceable violation of Libertarian principles, but it is pretty fucked up from a morality standpoint. It's worse than just being a Libertarian and having a statist job. He actually chooses every aspect of his job. He makes fucking yt vids. What kind of sick fuck makes youtube vids against their core belief system?
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>>80540070

Getting paid is the core belief; it was always the core belief.
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>>80519288
liteally just mad that stefan dont produce what you want. fuck off baby
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>>80536919
>Anarco capitalism and libertarianism share very few things, and are wholly incompatible with one-another.

whut..

Then why is the man referred to as "Mr. Libertarian" the guy who INVENTED anarcho-capitalism?

Libertarianism is just a more inclusive group that includes minarchism but is fundamentally based on anarcho-capitalism. If a libertarian doesn't understand this then they aren't really libertarian. They may just have a collection of political views matching up with Libertarians. The fundamental beliefs have to be there. You could be things like anti-tax and pro-legalized drugs just because you hate money going to help people and like using heroin. That doesn't make you a libertarian.
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>>80540343
>Getting paid is the core belief; it was always the core belief.

Valid point, we contradict our beliefs all the time for the sake of our income. As a physician I have to report shit like gun ownership by psych patients and drug use by pregnant women. Sucks but I chose the road to the occupation irreversibly a long time ago, and when possible I try to conform it to be as consistent with my views when possible, like not accepting govt insurance.

But with Stefan, here's a guy who actually created an income source specifically to defend his core beliefs (if they weren't why would he choose such difficult beliefs to defend??)...and then he turns around and decides to use it to attack them instead. If it was too hard he could have gone back to something like owning a software company or whatever he did previously.
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>>80537652
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ASMR BULLSHIT?

Can somebody elaborate why these videos have so many views?
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>>80542886

The free market

Surprised people like things you don't like? It may be a shock, but try to relax
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>>80519288
>So...where is the philosophy/Libertarianism content?

people change when self-preservation becomes priority number 1
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>>80527424
lol keep telling yourself that nigger
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alex jones is way better
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>>80543022
No, I am genuinely interested in the technical explanation for the views.
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>>80518145
so what? he's pretty tame for /pol/, we're pretty ,much ten steps ahead, but at least he's trying
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>>80543277

ASMR attracts tons of people because for some, it gives a physical sensation, it's like a drug or something. So people pay good money to hear QT's be their heroin. And $2 a month is nothing to a white knight of that caliber.

If that's what you meant
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>>80543449
So people enjoy roleplaying having a gf through youtube videos?
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>>80543584

It's like they do scratching noises and whisper and breathe heavily into the ear. Not really role playing per se, more like massaging you I guess

I have listened to only a few so I'm mostly uneducated in the subject
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>>80518145

He is like Milo, he's an opportunist who saw the new wave of alt right cuck Trump fans as a business opportunity. Both me and you would do the same if it meant getting the money that they are getting.
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>>80518672
>stefan "oy vey i'm white for shekels" Molyneu
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>>80543231
I like this shirtless pic better. No homer.
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Do you guys thing Stef comes here and laughs at our Molymemes? I know he has mentioned us by name a couple times now but I wonder if he just knows of us or actually comes here.
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>>80544337
Where has he mentioned us, I am honestly curious.
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>>80518145
Former FDR member here, I met the man personally and have donated large sums of money. I left after the Clemens thing.

I truly believe Moly is making a pyramid cult scheme, it's disturbing. The underlying ideas are still okay, but he himself is off the chain.
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>>80518422
And his beliefs just happened to shift in the direction of money.

Not a surprise considering his ethnicity.
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>>80544485
In the video where he talked about the supposed Brexit shooter guy with a mental illness. He shit on the media for emphasissiing that the guy shouted something about Brexit when it turned out to be false, then he said "4chan's /pol/" is one of the only good sources of information now.
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>>80544781
What? Almost all of his beliefs are unpopular.
>Thinks all forms of government is tyrannical
>Doesn't support anyone for President but seems to largely favor Trump
>Is in favor of guns for every country despite being European
>Believes all forms of taxes are immoral
Do I need to go on?

Give me one example of Stef changing something he believes for money. The only time I even recall Stef changing a belief of his was with Christianity. He used to hate all religeous people but he said a few months ago he doesn't believe in that anymore since the separation of church and state makes religion a non-issue anyway for the civilized world.
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>>80544485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWpDu-w0xvA&feature=youtu.be&t=21m9s

Here. At 21 minutes if the link doesn't get there properly.
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>>80518145

Not an argument
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>>80519388
You're a retard.
https://mises.org/library/molyneux-problem
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>>80519288
stupid goy you are watching only his videos, there is x5 the content on his podcast
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>>80518145
>STEFAN MOLYNEUX
>Libertarianism

But he is a Canadian Anarchist Capitalist.
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>>80518956
Stop being a neet and do something then?
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>>80520171
can you give source
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>>80544055
>Both me and you would do the same if it meant getting the money that they are getting.

Not sure you can relate to how difficult that would be for a genuine libertarian. First off there's incredible cognitive dissonance and moral conflict to get past, which you might not understand as a non-libertarian, principles are important. But then there's whether you can be any good at arguing against your own core beliefs and still be persuasive. Seems like that would take a level of detachment from one's effect on the world and indifference to human suffering that is similar to that of a psychopath.
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>>80518956
you might as well get mad about people winning the lotto, do you have any idea how hard it is to make a youtube channel profitable? Getting recognized and staying relevant is a constant fight unless you already had some huge following from elsewhere. For every successful youtuber theres like a million that are nobodies
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>>80543231

that's the saddest horse ever
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>a jew does something Jewish
Who knew, just sucks nu-/pol/ worships this obvious Trojan horse
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>>80545288
>>Thinks all forms of government is tyrannical

Except when it does things Trump wants or is run by Trump....

>>Doesn't support anyone for President but seems to largely favor Trump

Who is largely a fascist and as tyrannical as anyone else, if not moreso.

>>Is in favor of guns for every country despite being European

What the fuck are you even trying to say here? Yes, he's pro-gun. Big deal. He's willing to cheer other statist crap and violate his own principles. So there's nothing holding up any of his views anymore imo. Trump will become anti-gun and then so will Molyneux apparently. Not like he makes any pro-gun rights vids anymore anyway.

>>Believes all forms of taxes are immoral

Same thing with guns. All views he once had are no longer tied to any common principle, other than maybe making money and shilling for Trump. So just about anything is possible.
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>>80544713
Tell me more m8
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>>80518145
Here's Stefan spreading the Holohoax lie. Guess we'll never see the "Truth of the Holocaust".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NJ-aUHM2ro
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>>80529566
I understand your point and partly agree it too, but swissbro is also right, they aren't synonym.
I'm waiting for the day when Stef comes out with somekind of "truth about" video with jews. Prob. never.
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>>80547029
kek
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>>80548655
You do realise he is ethnically jewish himself, right?
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>>80519152
>So you have no argument to repudiate his claims on the differences between races and resort to name calling instead of addressing Trump on his stances.

Yea, sure there are inherent genetic differences. I don't see how this somehow invalidates the non-aggression principle and makes using government power to violate human rights based on race. Some of them can and do demonstrate that they qualify having human rights. Likewise plenty of whites demonstrate they don't qualify. So how do you justify using race alone to separate it out? You don't. Everyone is assumed to have the same rights and can only effectively lose them when their own individual actions violate others. They aren't another species of animal that has never in recorded history demonstrated any near human awareness, reason or free will.
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>>80518145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4dTz8usLXo

Watch this from around 3:17
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>>80525388
The only videos I have seen him do this are his shitty 2-4 minute videos made for normalfags.
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>>80531215
Google still monetizes videos without Youtubers monetising their content.
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>>80549298
I can't
It's too cringy
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>>80542886
Because some hot chicks will whisper dick sucking noises into the mic and people like the attention since those ASMR vids are like personal massages. People also get some kind of sensation on their scalp or just in their body in general from the noises

Besides that, it's actually kind of relaxing. Most people can't work in complete silence or can't sleep easily, so they watch them to kind of relax.

And those QTs get lots of views and donations from white knights. Easy money for simply whispering into a mic for 10 mins or tapping some random shit
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>>80518664
Biggest philosophy channel school of life has 1,224,382 subscribers
>stefan has the biggest philosophy channel 433,137 subscribers
keep lying to yourself faggot
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I enjoy his content. I don't care about you, your opinions or your wife's son.
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>>80518956
The world isn't a fair place, welcome to reality.
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>>80523296
Isn't this a Hitler quote or something?
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>>80518145
He actually goes into detail on his book ventures here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcua6M22YAo

People actually loved his books but refused to publish them for contradicting the SJW narrative, and how Vox Day met and had trouble from the same people in his publishing.

The myth of the noble savage part is pretty damn funny.
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>>80518145
If you want deep philosophy go read a book.
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>>80518145
HE A GOOD BOY HE JUST NEED MO MONEY FO HIS YOUTUBE ACCOUNT HE DINDU NUFFIN, MAYN!
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>>80518145
cool, if he fails so hard, how come he has 400 k subscribers
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>>80518145
I never thought he was so brilliant - he's just more articulate than most right wingers
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>>80518145
He argues that the (((publishers))) give him bad reviews because his works don't fit their narrative and he's given a few examples of that case in some recent videos. I think it's worth noting.
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>>80559300
it is
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We 14/88 now
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It's libertarian tradition for libertarians to get so fed up with leftists that they start supporting fascists. It happened with Mises, Rothbard and Friedman.

Eventually libertarians realise that nothing can be accomplished with libertarian advocacy so they support fascists. Trump isn't a fascist but when a real one comes along Molyneux will support him. You'll get to watch videos by Molyneux in the future on why degeneracy should be eradicated, how the racial spirit must be preserved and how leftism and liberalism should be utterly crushed.

Hell, Molyneux might be the next Fuhrer himself.
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>>80565810
I agree wholeheartedly, you described my (and many others I'm sure) political journey precisely
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>>80545518
Well, if we were the first, we were only the first because we actually read the article where the muslim guy said he wasn't even there, but knew someone who was; he also said the entire neighborhood thought it was him, kind of retarded.
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>>80518145
>He fails, and fails miserably. His arguments are often preposterously bad
On what basis though?
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>>80518145
>ad revenue
He doesn't play ads, though.
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>>80518956
Time and energy used without a decent understanding of the scenario and environment means they wasted both. It's not rocket science the current traditional market is made to make people into slaves.
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>>80565810
Pretty accurate.
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Molymeme did a video with Diamond and Silk.

Just look at him meme away without a care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fb_hXTjbO0
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>>80518145
n-not an a-argument XDDDDDDDDDD
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>>80518145
Oy vey that goyim can't be beaten with arguments , we better attack his image.
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>>80518145
>His arguments are often preposterously bad" and calling him "The Molyneux Problem"
>His arguments are often preposterously bad

No wonder he coined the "Not an argument" meme
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>>80547129
>show reddit comments on this channel
Is this a new Jewtube feature?
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>>80545288
>unpopular
>gets way more views now
what does popular mean in your world?
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