How do you feel about the political issue of age of consent, /pol/?
>>80394137
Mohammed was a pedophile so that means pedophellia is the most blue pulled thing you can do.
Over the age of 16 sex is allowed, sex outside of marriage should be illegal.
>>80394271
But surely there's a difference between 9 and 18 year olds.
>>80394271
Actually he wasn't.
Being an agnostic and militantly secular Turk, I wanted to find solid proof that he was.
But only Hadith mentions Aisha's age as 9. Hadith are noncanonical.
According to correlations within the Quran (only canon source) Aisha ends up being 13 years old upon consummation.
Juliet in Romeo and Juliet was 12 within the work, and Eleanor of Aquitane was consummated when she was 13 years old.
Back in those times 11-14 was the ideal age because women bloomed faster (due to lack of antibiotics and lactic-catalyzed hormones).
Men fucking died when they were 34.
So no, Muhammed was not a pedo.
All religions are shit, but one shouldn't lie to slander another religion.
Only truth will set man free.
>>80394665
>In the Sunni branch of Islam, the canonical hadith collections are the six books, of which Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim generally have the highest status. The other books of hadith are Sunan Abu Dawood, Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Al-Sunan al-Sughra and Sunan ibn Majah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith
Hmm...
>>80394799
there is no "canonical" Hadith.
Priests who claimed some hadith were "canon" were fucking shills.
God's claimed word within the Quran is that ONLY the Quran is canonical all others should be read with perspective.
Of COURSE people will claim some hadith is canon, it serves their agendas.
Ultimately only Quran is accepted by all branches of Islam.
>>80394665
>men died at 34
That's a valid point but it doesn't change the fact that millions of Muslims today still fuck children even though they live far past 34.
>>80394489
Nothing wrong with fucking an 18 year old.
Every white girl should be impregnated by a white man as soon as she gets her period.
>>80394137
I don't feel bad when I jack off thinking about the girls I fucked when I was 13. Some of the best sexual memories
I would feel robbed of my life experiences if those early sexual thoughts weren't there
>>80394137
these "hadith apologists" should die
>>80394137
The AoC should be abolished. All sex outside marriage should be considered rape. Unless it's just her daddy messing around with her when she's a preteen, that's fine.
A girl should be married young to a man her father chose for her.
>>80394665
We're sorry for offending your favorite pedophile oh gracious turkroach.
>>80394137
I say we just need to wait 4 years
>>80394665
>Juliet in Romeo and Juliet was 12 within the work
13
>Men fucking died when they were 34.
The average age of death is average which was lowered noticeably by half of kids dying just after they born. People have never died from old age at 34.
Also the usual opinion within people who study your shitty religion for living is that yes, he fucked a 9 year old.
14 years old is the cutoff.
>>80394665
>Romeo and Juliet
>Real
Okay.
>>80394137
Probably the last possible thing to think or worry about at the moment. Anyone pushing this issue is probably a sick fuck who should be gassed.
>>80395472
>All sex outside marriage should be considered rape
Explain yourself
>>80395834
beta virigin mad cuz chad is fucking her crush
>>80395752
As I said, hadith are shaky, gospel tier hearsay. Not canon.
Even certain Hadiths contradict the "9" meme hadith.
Learn before claiming bro. Knowledge is power.
>Muslim authors who calculate Aisha's age based on the more detailed information available about her sister Asma estimate that she was over thirteen and perhaps between seventeen and nineteen at the time of her marriage.[28] Muhammad Niknam Arabshahi, an Iranian Islamic scholar and historian, has considered six different approaches to determining Aisha'a age and concluded that she was engaged in her late teens.[29] Using the age of Fatimah as a reference point, the Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement scholar Muhammad Ali has estimated that Aisha was over ten years old at the time of marriage and over fifteen at the time of its consummation.[30]
>>80394952
>I know better than Islamic jurists
>>80394137
13+ should be legal, while sexually abusing those younger be punishable by death (if proven true in court).
>>80394137
Ban assault pedophiles.
>>80395956
I just trust my bros at Yemen who fuck 9 year olds because Muhammad did so too.
This Californian girl is 15 years old and is illegal for the next 3 years.
>>80396200
>This Californian girl is 15 years old and is illegal for the next 3 years.
>>80395939
What fucking flag is that?
>>80394665
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Aishas_Age_of_Consummation
Literally 9 years old..
>>80396200
Is this now a jordyn Jones thread?>>80395939
Fucking rare...
SHILL THREAD. DO NOT REPLY. SAGE. SAGE. SAGE.
>>80395987
>islamic jurists
You need an education bro. Fast.
>>80396200
I bet she s been blacked already.
>>80396056
>13+
If you're serious than you must be mentally ill. Those are still children.
>>80395834
Rape is basically like theft, it's using/ruining something that doesn't belong to you.
>>80396096
Ban assault little girls.
I was at the Sam's Club the other day and there was a girl curled up asleep in a cart. her dress was all up to where you could totally see her panties. We can not allow these dangerous weapons on our streets, something needs to be done.
>>80396200
>Jordyn Jones
What an ugly nasty bitch. All these "dance" bitches are such horrible sluts.
>>80396200
>>80396235
Her parents shouldn't let her dress and act like a whore then. Young girls these days have no sense of decency.
>>80395472
you sound just like a mudslime
>>80396200
Ridiculous.
A strong society would have started breeding her years ago. AoC exists exclusively because past-their-prime old Feminists got salty that men are attracted to youthfulness.
>>80395956
>mohammad marrying her favorite girl at the age of fucking nineteen when she has already been used by half the village and their camels
What a cuck.
>>80395472
isnt is prayer time at the local mosque yet abdul? stop shitposting on pol and get kneeling
>>80394137
clinton foundation gets money from trafficing of children
bc is a pedo
hrc is a dyke who went down on a slave whos snatch was cut into the portrait of the devil.
>>80396379
>If you're serious than you must be mentally ill.
In your opinion.
>Those are still children.
What's your point? That children can't have or enjoy sex? You'd be wrong. 17 is still a 'child' too.
THE FUCK IS UP WITH THESE PEDO POSTS LATELY?! DELETE THIS SHIT AND GO KILL YOURSELF!
>>80396379
If they're bleeding, nature is saying they're ready. The children meme is a novel product of the era you live in. Teenagehood hasn't actually been around for very long. Before that, humans were ready adults at 16 at the latest and girls were married and bedded at their first blood.
You have to understand, people can grow up astoundingly fast when society doesn't hold them back. Our twenty year olds are the past's sixteen year olds.
>>80395025
yeah nothing wrong with 8 year olds either.
it's just plain age racism
>>80396803
If underage kids have sex with each other there is no problem with that, it's part of growing up. A 45 year old man fucking someone under 18 is disgusting and wrong. Show some fucking restraint you degenerate.
>>80397032
Kill yourself, most people agree by 18 most if not all of your innocence is gone. Children should get to be children until then.
>>80397038
You make it sound like the girls have no choice in the matter, you degenerate. If an under 18 chooses to have sex with a 45, then it's their business, not yours. I doubt it would happen often, though. They have preferences too, you know.
>>80395472
Kill yourself you gross deranged neckbeard. Good thing you are so ugly you will never have kids
>>80396730
>bc is a pedo
Pretty sure he fucks anything that moves.
>>80396481
>>80396665
>if you think girls should be married at a proper age and not be sluts you're a mudslime
Wow, you're right, girls should go to college and ride the cock carousel until she gets a beta to settle for her when she's 30.
>>80397038
>there is no problem with that
There is no problem with girls being sluts? What's wrong with you?
>>80397032
>yeah nothing wrong with 8 year olds either.
There isn't. They're hot and they like taking dick.
>>80394137
It should be whatever the driving age is.
>>80396461
Disgusitng creepy ugly weirdo freak. I bet everyone is staring at you when you go outside.
>>80397241
I agree they have preferences but they also are not old enough or experienced enough to make responsible decisions.
>>80394665
>All religions are shit, but one shouldn't lie to slander another religion
This is disturbing my noble Turk friend but what you are claiming by implication is that the hadith is full of lies.
>>80394476
>sex outside of marriage should be illegal
I remember being surprised when I learned it wasn't.
>>80397361
I didn't say being sluts. Most teenagers have a first relationship where they start experimenting sexually and that is normal. Fucking everyone and everything is not.
>>80395472
Wut. Wut dis be?
>>80397241
Literally this.
The question isn't "will this fat sack of shit suddenly be fucking young girls if it's legal" because that's not even a question when we all know the answer. The question is about 44 year old Jared Leto fucking a teenager who has been touching her clitoris and fantazising about sucking his dick for her whole fucking life. Because he does that and it doesn't seem to be a big thing.
>>80397568
Guessing you grew up in the south too?
>you live in a world where loving this is illegal
>where wanting to hold and protect and cherish this angel is punishable by jail time
Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed.
>>80394137
Why is that picture so comfy
>>80397420
You sure are throwing out a lot of subjective opinions I don't care about.
Science has shown that 18,19,20,21,22, and even 23 year olds also are unable to make responsible decisions, and their brains have yet to develop fully as well. Guess according to you they should be banned from having sex too.
>>80394476
Why would any guy this day and age ever want to marry?
>>80397519
>This is disturbing my noble Turk friend but what you are claiming by implication is that the hadith is full of lies.
Islam is full of lies. Mo the Pedo says "God told me all of this bollocks, so I wrote it down.".
I'm like. Yeah man. Fucking definitely happened.
Bullshit religion is bullshit.
>>80394665
kill yourself pedo roach
>>80397654
Reported kill yourself freak
>>80394271
>>80394665
>>80397246
>>80397415
>the Greek anti is back
How you doing, bud? Still mad as fuck, I see.
>>80397570
>a first relationship where they start experimenting sexually
Yes, and that is how girls become sluts. That "first relationship" isn't going to last and she'll fuck other guys and be a slut.
>>80394137
>Hadith are noncanonical.
lol
You ain't fooling anyone friend, except maybe yourself if you really believe this.
>>80397724
I didn't say that 18 year olds make the best decisions but that's the age we decide to let them learn. Innocence is a monumentally important part of childhood that needs to be protected until 18.
>>80397971
Too bad the father wasn't around when you were creeping on that poor kid. He would have beaten your obese ass to death and everyone would applaud him
>>80395816
>Koran
>real
way to miss the point
>>80398182
Kek
>>80398074
And why exactly is that number so important?
>>80397971
Look unless we can revert back to a culture like the 50s where sex isn't really a thing until after marriage than this is the reality of things for now. It's not ideal but it's just the way it is.
>>80397647
Yes.
>>80398259
Because most developed societies agree that is the age someone is an adult. It gives you ample time to be a child and to develop before you are corrupted by reality.
>>80397654
One day the feminists and their supporters will be removed from government and things will be how they should be.
>>80398153
>Too bad the father wasn't around when you were creeping on that poor kid.
Do you mean that story I told that happened at the Sam's Club? Her dad was pushing the cart. I thought it was weird he wouldn't adjust her dress to try and cover her panties.
>>80398317
We should try to make things more ideal, not just say "well, this is how it is". It doesn't have to be how it is.
I dunno back in the day, not even that long ago, it was considered acceptable to get with a girl after she was menstrating. My opa was 24 when he first got with my oma when she was 15 and they had a great marriage that anyone would be envious of. And this was normal for the time.
But the line has to be drawn somewhere, I dunno. But there is a big difference between a 50 year old going after a 9 year old than a 20 year old hooking up with a 15 year old yet they get lumped into the same category.
It's probably became this way because of jealousy of older women. They've managed to shame people into wanting them instead of younger women.
>>80394137
>Back in those times 11-14 was the ideal age because women bloomed faster (due to lack of antibiotics and lactic-catalyzed hormones).
This is also false btw, we are maturing earlier because of endocrine disruptors.
>>80394137
I let my boner decide.
>>80398448
I agree we should work towards that goal. The first steps would be to stop plastering sex all over every kind of media.
>>80395472
>>80398426
And that is based on what? You're literally retarded if you base your opinions and views on "b-but that's how it is".
And it even isn't. You can fuck 14 year olds in half of Europe and you fat fucks can't buy beer until you're 21.
>>80398543
Shouldn't you be busy culturally enriching Europe Achmed?
>>80398259
oh my fucking god kill yourself.
an under-aged girl is not ready to have sexual interactions whether she wants or not.
>>80398616
So fucking a child and taking away their innocence is alright? Kill yourself. Why do you have absolutely no self control? I will agree that our drinking laws are fucking retarded here.
>>80398668
Honest question and Schlomo goes mental. Could there be something here....
>>80398745
Now that is what's called a strawman.
>>80395956
>Muslim authors
>Muhammad Niknam Arabshahi
>Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement
I'm sure these are very unbiased sources pushing no modern agenda whatsoever.
>>80398668
Based Jew bro. Thanks for backing me up senpai.
>>80396897
Most people have been saying the opposite of pedo shit itt, new friend.
>You guys can't have conversations about things
>Don't question the Holocaust, either!
>>80398804
So you don't think that having sex with a child takes away innocence? You are scum and need to die.
>>80398745
>So fucking a child and taking away their innocence is alright?
You said it's alright. You said it's okay for girls to get fucked by random guys as long as he's as young as her and therefore unable to take care of her.
>>80394665
>men died at 34
this lie has been debunked for ages why do people keep repeating it. if you control for deaths in battle and deaths in infancy, the average lifespan was probably into the 60's+
its perfectly okay for 1 13 year old to love another 13 year old but not for some old man to love a 13 year old
fuck off roach
>>80399057
It's different when two young and innocent people figure it out for themselves. A grown person having sex with a child understands they are taking away innocence, there is a difference.
>>80394137
I think the age of consent is a good thing on paper. But, realistically, the age of consent just pushes young people to hide their sex and making it unsafe. I think Romeo and Juliet laws are a good model to expand upon. I think letting some form of parental consent play a role is how we should overhaul it. This way it provides a safe place and a knowledgeable parent's guidance and approval.
>>80398961
>having sex with a child takes away innocence?
What do you mean "innocence"? She won't become guilty of something because she had sex in a proper relationship.
>>80399204
>its perfectly okay for 1 13 year old to love another 13 year old but not for some old man to love a 13 year old
Why? So, it's okay for girls to be sluts if she only lets irresponsible little shits fuck her but it's not okay for her to be married to a man who can actually take care of her?
>>80398745
>So fucking a child and taking away their innocence is alright?
Now that's what the question is about. What is a child? You define it as 18 because that's what you've learned and you're literally uncapable of asnwering a simple question of why with anything besides "PEDO, KILL YOURSELF". During most of human history childhood ended with menstruation. Surely you aren't a pedo are you?
Then there's the issue of innosence which is fucking ridiculous term in this issue because first you'd have to define it and secondly it wouldn't mean what what it actually means anyway. And you're apparently ok with taking 18y olds innocence so we're back at the age question.
>Kill yourself.
Same to you because you obviously lack something called rational thought.
>Why do you have absolutely no self control?
I don't even get how you came up with this.
>I will agree that our drinking laws are fucking retarded here.
Aaaaand you failed completely to adress the actual point of 18 being some magical limit across the universe and couldn't admit that you're really wrong about it.
Then again US isn't part of the civilized world anyway.
>>80399217
>It's different when two young and innocent people figure it out for themselves
How is it different?
And you still haven't explained how you're using the word "innocence". Innocence is the opposite of guilt. It seems you're using it as a synonym for ignorance.
>>80398839
finn is fucking insane
>>80399429
Innocence as in being a child and being young and naive as to how the world really is. It's what makes childhood special. Childhood is the most important stage in someone's life because it determines how they develop. People that are exposed to violence and the harshness of reality at a young age cannot comprehend or cope with it like adults can and it ruins them for life.
So, how long until the kiddie porn gets posted?
>>80398761
>Honest question
you are literally promoting pedophilia, which IS illegal.
you are sick, and should be gassed
>>80399520
See>>80399706
Did you not have a childhood or something? Menstration might have ended childhood back then but we are now more advanced and civilized than we were. If you can't understand what childhood innocence is than I don't know what to tell you.
>>80399778
>you are literally promoting pedophilia, which IS illegal.
Since when cunty?
>>80396477
she's at the beach wearing a bikini
If you want women to cover up their SHAMEFUL THIGHS AND MIDRIFFS convert to islam and hand out burquas
>>80399520
>>80399706
plus, the fact that i can literally bribe a kid to spread neo-Nazi propaganda in the streets on Israel for a piece of fucking candy
>>80400029
I should have clarified, a bikini I understand, but you can't tell me you haven't seen girls her age dressed like complete sluts.
>>80399778
What's your game, Goldschlong?
What is it you know about pubescent children that we don't?
Why do you want the fittest, most sexually active girls not to breed?
>>80394137
>upstanding, well-off society that cares about its future
AOC rises
>degenerate shithole that couldn't give less of a fuck about their daughters or their futures
AOC falls
this is perfectly represented by the prevalence of low AOC in the turd world
>>80399706
....You're still not saying how childhood is defined and when it ends. You're literally just babbling.
I mean I get that apparently concensual sex is violence and harshness to you so you're definitely a nice and sensible person.
>>80399706
>Innocence as in being a child and being young and naive as to how the world really is
So, girls shouldn't be taught things because you want to idealize childhood? Oh, but it's okay if she discovers things with a boy and becomes a slut.
>>80399931
>we are now more advanced and civilized than we were
Oh, yes, we are now much more civilized, we can completely ignore biological cues.
>>80399964
since 1791 cuck
>>80394665
The Qur'an has instructions on divorcing wives who haven't even reached the age of menstruation.
>>80400145
How do you know she dresses like a whore when she's not at the beach then?
>>80400286
I honestly can't even argue with you anymore. You and I will never see eye to eye on this. If you can't grasp what I'm saying than there is nothing more for me to say.
>>80394137
My cousin dated this hot ass model who looked like she was 23, 6ft1 C cups and a nice ass, turns out for the entire year they were dating she was keeping the relationship a secret from her parents and she was actually 16 at the time, parents didn't like this so they pressed charges against my cousin and he got sent to the pen for a few years for having sex with a minor.
Complete bullshit on her part and her parents, and when she took the stand her parents basically forced her to testify against him, now he got out last year but he is now on the registerd sex offender list and can't be near any child even though he sin't a pedo, completey fucked over her life, he can't find a job that will hire him anymore so now he deals dope to make cash, age of consent is bullshit OP.
>>80400329
>since 1791 cuck
Not even close to being anything more than trolling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pedophile_and_pederast_advocacy_organizations
>>80400292
There is a difference between slowly losing innocence as you grow older and learn with your peers as opposed to some older pedo fucking you. Innocence is lost eventually but why speed up the process?
>>80400472
>I honestly can't even argue with you anymore.
Yeah that didn't really come as a surprise. I really did give you the chance by actually trying because I'm drunk and your answer was "b-but 18, it's always been wrong, innocence"!
You don't know how to argue, that's the problem.
>>80397415
>>80400241
fist of all, this entire thing is fucking sick.
second of all, pedophilia will traumatize the child and give depression and suicidal thoughts.
in addition, under-aged KIDS, do not have the skill to take care of a baby, which results in abortion etc...
and one more reason is i hate mudslimes and everything they fucking do
>>80400267
Based anon.
>>80400565
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent#History_and_social_attitudes
>>80400741
>pedophilia will traumatize the child
Pedophilia isn't an act it's a thought
>>80394665
TURK
>>80400459
Because even if you don't recognize her her name has been posted ITT. She's Jordyn "SlutHo" Jones. One of those nasty ass "dance" whores.
>>80400629
>There is a difference between slowly losing innocence
Yeah, that way she becomes a slut. Admit, you are okay with girls being dirty sluts and you have a problem with girls being good and loyal.
>>80400741
>second of all, pedophilia will traumatize the child
How will gentle loving sexually activity with her daddy traumatize a girl?
Here in Europe the age of consent is 15 or 16 years... (was 15 when I was young...)
I've recently counted and median age of a girl I've laid was little below 17, and all were fine...
WTF they upped the age of consent from 13 to 16 1 year ago in Spain.
Stupid fascists m8
>>80394137
I'd say 16. Biologically, this has been happening for millenia, and women are able to reproduce before that point. Doesn't mean I would date a 16 year old, but don't think it should be illegal either. The biological reality is what it is, and people who say "but...but but creepy!" are usually beta cucks, the kind of sycophant themselves to feminists to seem enlightened or what not. 18 should definitely be legal but even at 16-17, there's enough maturity and ability to give consent.
minors can fuck as long as they've hit puberty and adults can not fuck minors
>>80401009
>Because even if you don't recognize her her name has been posted ITT. She's Jordyn "SlutHo" Jones. One of those nasty ass "dance" whores.
Fair enough.
>>80395956
>I don't believe in Islam, I just shill hard for it
There is no mainstream school of Islamthat doesn't accept that Aisha was 6 when engaged and 9 when Muhammad put his penis in her. Also, Aisha's witness makes it very clear she was not a teenager at the time. This idea that Aisha was older is nothing but a sleight-of-hand by smarmy Muhammadan proselytizers.
Also, Ahmadis are not Muslims. They follow scripture that was written by their own leader. They call themselves Muslims, but their conception of Islam is fundamentally different from Sunni and Shia.
>>80400741
You don't know what pedophilia means and when talking about the girls like in that picture the idea of consensual sex being traumatizing has about as much actual proof as the holocaust.
>>80394137
Should be 16 everywhere, but within 4 years of the lowest aged partner, it should also be legal. This way youth aren't getting fucking sex offender status for the senior in high school fucking a freshman.
Truly in terms of nature though, old enough to bleed, old enough to breed. Puberty exists to attract the opposite sex. AoC itself is absolutely arbitrary, but necessary due to how we live in a society. You just can't get rid of those natural urges though.
>>80401009
>How will gentle loving sexually activity with her daddy traumatize a girl?
fucking listen to yourself, you sick fuck.
>nb4 not an argument.
results show that those things will give a child depression and suicidal thoughts in the long term, this should not be a fucking surprise to you
>>80399964
>>80399778
>>80400565
>>80400825
>you are literally promoting pedophilia, which IS illegal.
Typical fucking yid. Raises an argument about promoting pedophilia being illegal since 1791 and when called out on his bollocks pulls unrelated AOC out of his arse.
Go back to fucking goats Shylock.
>>80401222
>sexual feelings or activities that involve children
basically mental illness that is dangerous to society.
>>80401128
So if a consenting teenager having sex is ok what does it matter who he or she does have sex with as long as both are consenting? All women have always wanted older men and the same goes for teenagers.
>>80401284
>>nb4 not an argument.
It's not an argument. If she enjoys it and she isn't hurt and it's not with just some guy it's only with her dad it won't have negative effects.
>results show that those things will give a child depression and suicidal thoughts in the long term
That's from general abuse, like actually being beaten and neglected. Not gentle loving sexual activity.
>>80401460
There's a difference between children and teenagers you half-dick fucknose.
AoC is 16 in a lot of states here. i think it's fine 2bh
also, anatomically modern humans evolved from archaic humans in the Middle Paleolithic, about 200,000 years ago. how much raping went on over this timeframe? my guess: lots.
>>80394137
It should be 14.
All the Eva pilots are 14 and they're all fuckable, including Shinji. This logic is irrefutable.
/pol/ makes me lose faith in humanity. Especially this thread. I can't wait til were all exterminated.
>>80394137
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Why was the age of consent 7 in delaware in 1880?
>>80401841
Yeah we're supposed to be a degenerate free board, but it's infested with pedophiles.
>>80401941
I'm no expert but there was probably a "must be married" clause, like the Arab countries have now.
>>80401991
>why are there all these pedos on 4chan?
I personally believe that people who hate pedos are infact pedos in denial.
>>80401329
illegal or not, kids are not ready to be sexual objects.
i was unfortunately wrong about pedophilia being illegal, however you need to realize that kids should be mentally are physically ready to have sexual interactions, because this shit might ruin her/his future. don't you think those things have consequences? don't you think that the child will be effected by this in the future?
whether it is legal or not i don't care.
what i do care about is that people like you will not ruin people's future because of your selfishness and sick mind.
>>80402135
>jew doesn't care whether something's legal
no surprises here
15 (current age of consent in /pol/'s favorite country) is lagom for white people. At 15 you're old you have had sex ed every year for 5 years so you know exactly how to fuck and know the consequences of fucking. Condoms are free for kids and youth unless you live in a 3rd world country.
>>80397032
What the actual fuck?
>>80402287
i wished pedophilia was illegal.
however it seems like degeneracy is flooding the US and europe at the time
Competency standard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competence_(law)
>>80402362
>Condoms are free for kids
Calm down Sweden
>>80402423
later age of consent is stupid
virgin wives prevent degeneracy
>>80394137
It's retarded, anyone should be able to consent
>>80394137
Hopefully aoc changes to my favor.
Whatever that means. Bye
>>80402135
>kids are not ready to be sexual objects
According to what? Do you think girls don't like having their kitties tickled until they're a certain age?
>don't you think that the child will be effected by this in the future?
Again, if it's gentle and loving(ie not actually physically abusive and hurting her) and in a proper relationship how will she be negatively effected by it?
>>80402366
He was obviously being sarcastic. But he's right, it's not wrong to have sex with an 8yo girl(or an even younger girl) if it's in a proper relationship.
>>80397038
>If underage kids have sex with each other there is no problem with that, it's part of growing up
>>80395472
>le marriage meme
>>80402646
I'm mostly German with no Jew in my family faggot. I'd be willing to bet my ancestors were nazis.
>>80402597
yet there are cancerous fucks in here that want to lower the age because they want to ruin the kid's future for there own selfishness and pleasure.
>>80402737
What a time to be alive. Out of this whole thread the Jew is the most based.
>>80396096
Peadofiles dont hurt people, people hurt people
>>80402621
According to what? Do you think girls don't like having their kitties tickled until they're a certain age?
oh my fucking god listen to yourself.
those things can ruin a kid's future by giving them depression and trauma in the long-term
>>80402737
lower age of consent means earlier marriage you stupid fuck
women going from age 12 to 18 without being able to be married almost guarantees no virginity by the time they're actually legal
Why do we need age of consent laws in the first place? Our ancestors lived for thousands of years without age of consent laws.
>>80403004
>women going from age 12 to 18 without being able to be married almost guarantees no virginity by the time they're actually legal
Because if nothing else they are giving it up to Chad Thundercock as soon as they become sexually aware.
>>80403144
bingo
Chad doesn't respect the law
it's kind of like gun control, it only hurts the law-abiding
>>80403004
dude just fucking to to a 3rd world shitskin country and fuck as many sandniggers as you like instead of complaining about not having sex with kids and teenagers because you don't care about their future, but just about your own pleasure
>>80403104
>Our ancestors lived for thousands of years without age of consent laws.
Sure, there were no explicit laws, but the daughter was considered the property of the father and if you violated her without his consent then he could and would kill you and no-one would bat an eyelid.
>>80403277
And then they were married off when they were able to breed.
>>80402930
>That's from general abuse, like actually being beaten and neglected. Not gentle loving sexual activity.
Holy shit, you just keep repeating yourself. Here, I can repeat myself too.
>those things can ruin a kid's future by giving them depression and trauma in the long-term
That's from general abuse, like actually being beaten and neglected. Not gentle loving sexual activity.
>>80403104
Exactly. Refer back to here >>80395472
>>80403277
>the daughter was considered the property of the father and if you violated her without his consent then he could and would kill you and no-one would bat an eyelid.
And that's how it should be.
>>80394665
güzel savunma keke
What exactly makes 18 so special?
>>80403258
you're the sandnigger here, yid
young women run wild without the strong hand of a man in their lives, and it's the biggest cause of degeneracy
they LOSE their future when they are promiscuous during their teen years
>>80403277
last time i checked, there was no research in autonomy nor research in biology to figure out when a woman can have sex without giving her negative effects on her future
>>80403399
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1991-03-06/features/9101210119_1_sexual-important-question-relationships
read nigger
When you're 16, you get the adult card, and I mean for ALL of the bullshit. Drinking, drafting, voting, fucking.
Nothing happens in the two years between 16 and 18 to make someone less of a retard. I don't even know that many people in their late twenties who've shaken the "little shit" syndrome.
Why was CP legal in the 70s?
>>80403495
>they LOSE their future when they are promiscuous during their teen years
and how exactly are they are promiscuous by giving their virginity only when and after passing the age of consent?
FYI, this should be posted in every one of these threads.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajnal_line
Later marriage is literally what separates superior Europeans from the rest of the muds on Earth.
Not saying that's an argument for age of consent. As I said, it before, it should be a competency standard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competence_(law)
But as a social matter, women shouldn't have sex or marry until their 20s.
>>80403526
well actually there is
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/12/051201022811.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rind_et_al._controversy
>>80394137
I lost my virginity at the age of 22. I've got three kids now. And my mrs.wants another one.We shag like rabbits. I don't know if I have the energy for another child. It knocks you hard to have kids. My eldest is seventeen and is a help. But when they are little, they comsume your life force and drain you.
>>80403895
women don't do that, you dummy
they are all stupid sluts who NEVER grow up
that's why an age of consent so many years after puberty is a stupid idea
>>80404022
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1991-03-06/features/9101210119_1_sexual-important-question-relationships
>>80404043
forgive spelling please
>>80394137
we need to get rid of the whole concept of consent.
>>80404082
yet don't you think the age of consent should be above he early stages of puberty? because they are so sexually active that they can make really stupid decisions, and won't be able to think straight when it comes to sex.
>>80403399
Oh, shit, I accidentally copied that line twice. Oh, well, It's a good enough line.
>>80403495
>young women run wild without the strong hand of a man in their lives
Exactly this, women need to be kept under control. If she's not married young she will, inevitably, become a slut. But it seems some people in this thread are okay with girls being sluts.
>>80403681
>if the early sexual experience is marred by a frightening episode
This is what I've been saying. If it was a bad thing, if she was hurt or forced of course it's bad and will have negative effects.
>>80403851
>Why was CP legal in the 70s?
It wasn't legal everywhere, just certain places like Denmark who ended up producing CP on Super 8 Film (I think under the name Color Climax), there was also the print publication of "Lolita" magazine)
These were exported across Europe and the US where they remained illegal under more widespread anti-obscenity laws
Ayo hol up.
So you tellin me, that if a 9 year old gets some good head from a 25 year old man. That his tongue, can physically and mentally traumatize her?
Even when the cunnilingus is amazing and gives her an orgasm?
Somethin sounds fishy.
>>80404273
read further nigger
>>80400680
lol
>>80404302
well she's going to sexually imprint on that if it's her first sexual experience
so it wouldn't be fair to her if the 25 year old man doesn't plan on marrying her
>>80404256
Consent is fine. "age of" needs to be removed.
Consensual sex should be legal.
Rape should be illegal. Its quite simple really.
>>80396319
>quoting (((wikiislam))) for anything
>>80404302
>that picture
That's horrible. A girl is for her daddy only, nobody else.
>So you tellin me, that if a 9 year old gets some good head from a 25 year old man
If they're married it's okay. Sex is only okay within marriage or in the family.
>>80394137
15-16 is a good age for consent.
I think around 17-18 is a good limit for getting married though. Sex outside marriage should be discouraged, but making it illegal is a bit too far.
>>80404626
no shit.
however sick fucks in here can;t think straight near kids and early teens
Why would you *want* to fuck a kid?
Kids are fucking stupid, so it's not like you can have a relationship with them. And without even having the experience of independant living they're sure as fuck not gonna be good at raising a baby,
I wish pedos would just fucking admit they've got a fetish.
>>80404807
you can say the same for abortion.
at least should be an option if it threatens the impregnated woman
>>80404281
Pretty sure nude 16 year olds are still legal in Denmark and that is only child porn in the eyes of religious and brainwashed retards.
>>80404487
>sexually imprint
Explain?
>>80404302
And why are there monkies behind them? What is this?
>>80404834
>Why would you *want* to fuck a kid?
Because little girls are hot.
>it's not like you can have a relationship with them
But eventually she will grow up and then they will be closer than a normal couple because they've been together her whole life.
>>80404626
>Consent is fine.
Consent is not fine, it is flawed.
Consent cannot be withdrawn retrospectively (i.e. regret sex)
Consent cannot be on the basis of "Yes means Yes" or even "No means no".
Better to get rid of the notion of consent and simply return to the positive notion of "Will".
Judge: "Did he have sex with you against your will"?
Grill: "Yes. That is why he has scratches all over his face and my face, neck and wrists are bruised"
Judge: "Guilty of Rape. Next".
Is it still 16 over here? I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was raised to 18 by now.
I'm in my mid twenties and I still go to college parties even though I'm NEET.
You won't believe the amount of slags who will do just about anything for nothing under the age of 18.
You won't believe.
>>80397775
Exactly, it would incentivize young adults to marry which would in turn lead to healthier and longer lasting marriages. There is a correlation between promiscuity, number of sexual partners to be more exact, and divorce rates in marriage.
>>80405263
Consent, will, what's the difference?
>did you give consent for this sexual activity.
>No, that's why he has scratches all over his face.
There would need to be some proof of consent laws but that's for judiciary to design/decide.
>>80394137
I wish it were a non-issue like throughout 99.99999999% of human history
age of consent should be 18 or whatever age you are considered an adult in your society
if your society is a third world hunter gatherer tribe then the age of consent should probably just be puberty
>>80394137
You should only be allowed to vote if you pay taxes, fuck what age you actually are.
>>80394137
Aoc can be wathever some politician decide with the aid of old hags feminazis, but in the end people are fucking each other from 12-13.
No one can't change that fact.
>>80405893
Why should it be 18? What's so special about 18?
Sexy children and unsexy adults cause pedophilia.
Stop making your fucking brats look good if you don't want them fucked, you dumbasses.
>>80394137
there should be no age of consent or it should be lowered to 0, but only in yurop
>>80405244
all mammals imprint on their mothers and fathers, right? to determine what animals to associate with
well sexually imprinting is a thing too
haven't you ever seen those dogs that hump their owners?
>>80406223
you (are supposed to) graduate high school at 18
your parents can legally kick your ass out at 18
you can't be tried for crimes as a child at 18
>>80406428
>implying we are fucking animals and can't communicate.
gas yourself
>>80406307
>there should be no age of consent
How is that working over there Ivan?
>>80405263
Why does that guy have 5 dicks and why did 2 of them stay there when he got out of the bed?
>>80406236
Bad argument. Prepubescent child's body is inherently more sexually attractive than an adult's.
>>80406543
We are animals, yid
sexual imprinting happens whether you like it or not
it's the reason women become turbo-sluts if they are raised without a father, they don't have any masculine standard to rely on
>>80406715
>Prepubescent child's body is inherently more sexually attractive than an adult's.
You dirty fucking pedo.
>>80406715
Nah, fat girls are just as unsexy as any OLD HAG.
It's not child abuse, it's child LOVE.
Get it right.
>>80406781
your logic is broken.
not all girls "turbo-sluts" nor kids in their early puberty stages ready for sex
>>80406715
And parents just make it worse because "it's cute!"
Yeah motherfucker. It's cute. It's REAL cute. Keep pimping your children.
>>80394137
If you want to fuck a child, you're objectively insane.
>>80404302
Oh god they're so fucking ugly. Do American women look like this?
>>80407293
If you're not insane in today's world, you're a moron.
>>80407196
>not all girls "turbo-sluts" nor kids in their early puberty stages ready for sex
That does not stop them from trying, sexual experimentation is a natural thing at 12-13.
>>80407466
yea, but if you are a pedophile, you have mental illness
>>80407287
>liking boys too
You disgusting fag.
>>80407196
>not all girls "turbo-sluts"
If she has sex with anyone but her husband, yes, she is.
>or kids in their early puberty stages ready for sex
Girls are ready for sex even earlier. A girl is never too small for oral.
>>80407293
>not wanting to stick your dick in this
I think you're the insane one here.
>>80407580
Good taste is not an illness, kike.
>>80407580
>yea, but if you are a pedophile, you have mental illness
yea, but if you are a homosexual, you have mental illness
>>80407530
more like 15-18
before that its just mastubation
>>80394271
>Founding Fathers and Europe literally did the samething
Muhammad was redpilled as fuck. It's his followers that are fucking retarded.
>>80407679
>If she has sex with anyone but her husband, yes, she is.
we are talking about fatherless kids mate, nothing other
>>80407729
indeed
>>80407580
>you have mental illness
Everyone has a mental illness these days. What's your point?
>depression
>anxiety
>narcissism
>suicidal thoughts
>histrionic disorder
>psychopathy
>psychosis
Who doesn't have a mental illness?
>>80407679
>You disgusting fag.
Boys don't whine.
>>80407766
Nah, we masturbate even in the uterus, 12-13 is when hormones kicked in most cases.
>>80407771
kill yourself ahmed
>>80407888
>Boys don't whine.
Feminist
>>80407293
If it were possible, i would bet you a million dollars that if i found the most attractive 17 year old in the world and she tried to fuck you, and it was legal, and no one would even find out about it, that you would do it. Even knowing it would cost you the million dollars(not that you have it) you would not be able to resist if she was in front of you.
>but a 17 year old isn't a child!
right, that's what this thread is about, where to draw the line. A lot of people are saying puberty, and they have a decent point in my opinion. That's where the line has been drawn in countless cultures all throughout history. Not sure if it's a good idea or not honestly, but that's the debate. Stop just spouting memes about muh chillins and make a point if you have one. This applies to you too my merchant prude friend >>80407580
>>80407888
yea but pedophilia is actually threatening society
What I can't get through my head is the fact that there is people in this very thread that would actually consider a 14yo person as a "child".
>>80394137
>political issue
bait
>>80407852
>we are talking about fatherless kids mate, nothing other
What the fuck are you talking about, man?
>>80407888
>Boys don't whine.
Yes, they do and they're gross and not cute and they smell bad.
>>80394137
It should be higher tbqh.
>>80408008
fine....
