For those of you on /pol/ do you actually think the systemic problems of the world are fixable.
Why do you not swallow the black pill.
>>80367253
Thy shalt not BLASTHEME
>>80367253
Altruism
Fuck your black pill.
One cannot define shit, one does shit.
>>80367809
There is no altruism.
>>80367809
>Altruism
is that some kind of fucking magic school in skyrim? like destruction?
>black pill
>black
sounds most enlightening
>>80367253
No thank you I'll take the white pill
>>80368681
Then create it, American.
>>80368831
The contrary of egoism. Self sacrifice for the benefit of all. You could atleast google it, German.
There are no "pills" that'll be an artificial epiphany.
There are no "pills" that'll unveil anything.
All experiences come from within and one can only express themselves from the steps of the past.
>>80369774
I practice altruism within my egoism. I have a motto I live by. Do the right thing when the right people are looking.
TOBIRAMA DID NOTHING WRONG
Take the BLACK pill...................... See how far the rabbit hole goes,,,,,,,,,,
>>80367307
Blastmemey!
>>80370223
Your motto argues that there are "right" things to do and "right" people to impress. I live not from a field of impression, I live from the notion of an underdog.
I cannot agree with the concept of altruism within egoism. I'd argue that it would be green/white-washing of cultural capital.
My mantra: I consider whether I am a coal or an oven. Whether I live by burning or by burning others.
>>80370654
Ok, but you dont get anything happening that way, but just get being used by the not-so-innocent-minded. you know its the truth.
>>80367253
> Ha, you think I'd risk having a coherent belief about something? Bro I'm a nihilist.
I'm handsome and muscular so eggman tier shit is just loser talk to me.
>>80367253
Because even if I did, there would be no purpose.
I'd end up pretending, just for the sake of it.
Another reason is because I don't have terminal autism.
>>80372238
I have a feeling eggman made this thread himself or he is at least monitoring.
Also I thought the "black pill" was just the apathetic version of a red pill where you tap out and figure there isn't a point
>>80370296
B-baka.
>>80370654
>My mantra: I consider whether I am a coal or an oven. Whether I live by burning or by burning others.
Literally a coal-burner.
>>80368831
It's what Mother Merkel has, but you don't.
>>80373394
>Also I thought the "black pill" was just the apathetic version of a red pill where you tap out and figure there isn't a point
Not far off. The idea behind the black pill is that you are red-pilled about the truth, but that you also realize that the solutions to problems are out of our reach. The black-pill rejects the idea that any meaningful free-will exists.
>>80367253
The extinction of mankind is the only outcome that would have any meaning and put a permanent end to all the things I hate about this world
No more degeneracy. Ever.
No more subhumans. No more leftists. No more fucking maggots.
>>80373394
basically yes. red pill is conservatism, blue pill is liberalism and black pill is nihilism
>>80374556
> red pill
> cuckservatism
wew
>>80369774
There is no such thing as altruism.
People only do good things so they can feel good and feel like a "hero" and score good boy points with the world. Or secure a place in a heaven.
No matter what. It's always self interest.
>>80374530
I agree. Human extinction is the ideal.
>>80374361
>the solutions to problems are out of our reach
Trump is literally running for president and is going to build a border wall to keep mexicans out, black pill is fucking blued pilled, you think anyone would be here today if good men just gave up
all it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing
so fuck off with this nigger pill bullshit, MAGA
>>80375058
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tag9Pm3qtA
>>80374556
>basically yes. red pill is conservatism, blue pill is liberalism and black pill is nihilism
Not really.
blue pill: accepting the illusions and delusions that society pushes on you. This includes views that are both liberal and conservative
red-pill: seeing past the illusions and seeing the world for what it truly is.
Black-pill: seeing the world for what it truly is but realizing that there is nothing you can do to change it.
Black pill is distinct from nihilism. All nihilism states is that there is no objective value. Under a nihilistic view though you can still change the world to fit your subjective values. Black pill doesn't claim whether or not their are objective or subjective values. All it states is that regardless of what values exist accomplishing them is outside of your control.
>>80375167
>Trump is literally running for president and is going to build a border wall to keep mexicans out, black pill is fucking blued pilled, you think anyone would be here today if good men just gave up
I like how people genuinely believe Trump is going to accomplish anything. You're like all the bleeding heart liberals who believed Obama was going to bring about a socialist Utopia in 2008. They were wrong. You are wrong.
>so fuck off with this nigger pill bullshit, MAGA
>hates niggers
>uses a slogan that was originated from a black trump supporter
>>80371310
If living with honor, integrity and altruism was something easy and intrinsically rewarding to do, everybody would be doing it.
>>80374361
I think about these things a lot, didn't know the meme word for this was black-pill. What problems are you talking about whose solutions are out of our reach? I would agree that if you reach a certain level of comfort in life, it is hard and maybe impossible to rationally argue against nihilism. But saying that there are problems with no solution seems wrong to me. Human ingenuity solved a lot of unsolvable problems before. Even if there are indeed problems we could never solve, who is to say that a super-AI can't solve them? The next step is not nuking mankind like some goofy guys in here say, but creating a real God, the super-AI.
>>80367253
>Black pill
Sounds very enriching :^)
>>80375356
That doesn't make sense you can always make something. Go murder your president in the name of Islam and then come back and tell me your actions changed nothing.
>>80375167
And evil is too powerful.
So we must become the final evil.
Burn the world in nuclear fire. Absolute collapse of the Earths ability to support life.
That is the only way to stop the subhumans. To stop degeneracy.
Is to kill them ALL
Kill everything.
You are a naive child if you believe there is any hope.
>>80367253
red pill me on black pill
>>80376150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5S9OjEOmlQ
>>80367253
Because I am not a nigger.
>>80367253
if kikes control the world and can do with it what they like, then anyone else can too... you just need to coordinate an attack for hundreds of years to defeat them and establish your fix
>>80375724
A lot of the factors that determine our success are out of our control.
Looks, intelligence, parents, genetics, socio-economic class, race, country of birth. All those factors are outside of our control, yet are fundamental to determining how successful we are. Even stuff like "hard-work" and "work-ethic" have strong genetic and upbringing determiners. Also people tend to downplay just how much luck and chance play a role in their lives whether it be success or failure.
The black pill doesn't say that we are all condemned to misery. It doesn't state that non of us can be happy. All it state is that whether we will be miserable or happy is outside of our control.
> who is to say that a super-AI can't solve them
I encourage you to read Superintelligence by Nick Bostrom. True AI is probably the biggest threat man will ever face.
>>80376108
>Go murder your president in the name of Islam and then come back and tell me your actions changed nothing.
Whether or not you could kill the president is determined by factors outside your control.
>>80376274
I know this segment was meant to be a joke, but most of those black-pills were true. Just like racist jokes these black-pills are funny because they are based in reality.
>Pajeet my son
>you're doing nothing with your life and your actions are meaningless
>should you humbly acknowledge that the path of positive action is hard and your influence is limited... but also that sometimes consequences are real but just beyond your control and scope?
>or should you be a fag and glorify your lazy ass with a meme ideology that will keep your life and actions meaningless?
lel swallow the black pill bois xd
>>80376650
>if kikes control the world and can do with it what they like
Kikes are the perfect example of black-pill truths. There success is due to factors outside their control. Their higher iq due to forced inbreeding due to racism. There control of banks due to the banning of usury by catholics.
>>80377342
I will read up on it, thanks. I don't disagree with the essence of what you are saying I just think you do have some control and you can can change the real world if you choose to do so.
What is more interesting to me is that your argument seems to eat itself. How can you consider AI a threat if everything is outside your control? Why does it matter if it is a super-AI or just nature in control? Isn't nature itself a threat as well?
>Whether or not you could kill the president is determined by factors outside your control.
Sure, but my willingness to do it will make me more likely to succeed. Training on a sniper rifle and studying how the presidents security works, will also boost my % for success. Therefore I am in control of increasing or decreasing my chances to enact change in the world. Of course nothing is 100% but if that's what black-pill is about, doesn't everyone already know that intuitively?
I am fascinated by the possibility of a super AI so thanks again for your recommendation.
>>80374876
>people only do good things because they want to be rewarded for doing good things
So they still do good things. God damnit I swear sometimes.
>>80367253
Believing in "black pill" is the same shit that pissed off atheists regarding people who believe in God.
there is no absolute... There is only the drive to satiate urges...and some peoples urges are to make the world into what they believe would be a better place... Based on their own experience, there own feelings etc.
>>80380254
> How can you consider AI a threat if everything is outside your control? Why does it matter if it is a super-AI or just nature in control? Isn't nature itself a threat as well?
Just because something is outside of your control doesn't mean you can't fear it or be angry about it. An ugly person can be upset they are ugly. I can be worried about a nuclear war even though it's outside of my control. A super-ai with the wrong value system could kill us all or worse enslave us all.
>Of course nothing is 100% but if that's what black-pill is about, doesn't everyone already know that intuitively?
Most people usually believe that something like 90% of our live is under our control. Black pill states that only about 5-10% is under our control. With some things 0% is out of our control. People tend to downplay just how much looks, intelligence, genes, and family are determining factors. Empirically though we now know just how much they determine our success.
>I am fascinated by the possibility of a super AI so thanks again for your recommendation.
No problem.
>>80380584
>Believing in "black pill" is the same shit that pissed off atheists regarding people who believe in God.
Not sure what you mean by this. Could you explain.
>There is only the drive to satiate urges
Pretty much Schopenhaur's view. He was pretty black-pilled.
>>80381103
>Most people usually believe that something like 90% of our live is under our control. Black pill states that only about 5-10% is under our control.
Oh so you do claim that we have some % under our control. Maybe it was just me, but it came across as if you were saying everything is outside our control. I have no problem with this then, it's just a question of discussing the numbers.
>Just because something is outside of your control doesn't mean you can't fear it or be angry about it.
I agree of course. But if that something poses an existential risk to you, shouldn't you be trying to work towards eliminating that risk? Even if its 0,001% at least you increased your chances.
I guess I don't disagree with what you are saying in principle but I disagree with the conclusion that some problems are not fixable.
>>80369425
>cum pill
>>80382911
>Oh so you do claim that we have some % under our control. Maybe it was just me, but it came across as if you were saying everything is outside our control. I have no problem with this then, it's just a question of discussing the numbers.
I'm personally a hard-determinist so I do believe 100% is out of our control. I was just offering a version of the black-pill that could allow for free-will, but still be to deterministic to allow for any meaningful change.
>But if that something poses an existential risk to you, shouldn't you be trying to work towards eliminating that risk? Even if its 0,001% at least you increased your chances.
It becomes a matter of opportunity cost at this point. How much effort is needed for the .001% change? If it's too much effort the benefit might not be worth it.
>>80383132
cummy for mummy.
>>80367253
Are chinese cartoons redpilled?
>>80383664
of course.
>>80383923
New chapter when?
also
>tfw berserk will never be finished
What kind of pill is this?
>black pill
Are you the faggot constantly trying to redefine it from the edgy ultraviolence it's supposed to be?
Fuck off with your faux enlightenment bullshit.
So if Hitler would have taken the black pill, the great show would never have happened.
>>80386323
The watch your back for jamal if you ever end up in prison pill
>>80387384
>implying the holohaux actually happened.
>>80367253
This black pill crap sounds like an excuse to justify doing nothing in the wake of impending shit. Since when do white people ever give up just because shit looks hard?
>>80388647
>Since when do white people ever give up just because shit looks hard?
Posts the Cypriot un-ironically.
Kierkegaard's Silentio contrasts the knight of faith with the other two, knight of infinite resignation (infinity) and the aesthetic realm's "slaves."
Kierkegaard uses the story of a princess and a man who is madly in love with her, but circumstances are that the man will never be able to realize this love in this world. A person who is in the aesthetic stage would abandon this love, crying out for example, "Such a love is foolishness. The rich brewer's widow is a match fully as good and respectable." A person who is in the ethical stage would not give up on this love, but would be resigned to the fact that they will never be together in this world. The knight of infinity may or may not believe that they may be together in another life or in spirit, but what's important is that the knight of infinity gives up on their being together in this world; in this life.
Black pill = Aesthete
Red pill = Knight of Infinite Resignation
TL;DR Live life as if it had purpose, even if you know it may amount to nothing.
