What does /pol think of the IRA?
Freedom Fighters or Terrorists?
>>80322789
Terrorist left wing trash
>>80322789
Marxist terrorists BTFO by British backed-loyalist death squads
>>80322789
BASED Alphas
Anything that kills and mutilates English is a good guy in my book.
Left Winged cucks
>>80322956
Gonna have to stand with you, m8. As a Scot who moved to the US about 3 years, I'll take any man who would stand against them. The Irish and we can settle our differences when England runs red.
>>80322789
freedom fighters, they weren't all left wing
A potato in every pot and a nail bomb for every cop.
>>80323261
they were "republicans"
>>80322789
potato niggers.
>>80322956
Why do muslim countries not get along :(
Commie child killers
>>80323357
there were people in the provisional IRA who would be classed as fascists by today's standards. I have studied the conflict in nearly every aspect and thats how I see it.
>>80323163
Do the irish and scots hate eachother?I thought they always bonded over being cucked by england.
we don't have space on this board for conversations about white niggers right now.
>>80323705
the war in Northern Ireland is a very underrated war which not many people talk about. You can learn a lot about the conflict and learn things about guerrilla warfare in western society. It is basically the only thing close to a race war in the western world.
>>80322789
1920s IRA - freedom fighters
1950s - incompetent
PIRA - deadly leftest terrorists
Officials - not so deadly left wingers
INLA - Leftest terrorists who spent more time killing each other then the enemy.
RIRA - screwed up a operation, and not trusted
CIRA - drug dealers
And no, I am not a US Potato
Could you guys redpill me on the IRA? I've lived in N.Ireland for a while now but I don't know much because either the people here are retarded and don't know shit or the people I ask are biased as fuck and seem untrustworthy.
>>80322789
Bog trotters gonna bog trot
>>80324016
>Lived in Norn Iron
>Needs red pilling
Nice bait faggot.
>>80322789
both, obviously
>>80324016
What do you want to know, I have knowledge on the conflict comparable to a historian.
>>80322789
If you kill civilian's for political purposes you're a terrorist.
Only ignorant Americans who have one great grandmother from Ireland who consider themselves Irish think they're freedom fighters, meanwhile in reality thanks to Brexit there's going to be an Irish reunification referendum alongside a Scottish independence referendum so all those people who died in the troubles died for nothing.
>>80324016
>UK used to control all of Ireland
>1920s after WWI, a group calling themselves the IRA gained independence for most of Ireland.
>Northern Ireland had scots and english settlers in large amounts. So they wanted to stay in the UK. Threatened war if they were abondoned.
>Northern Ireland stayed UK.
>1920-1950 Ireland too focused on it own issues to worry about Northern Ireland
>1950s, failed border campaign
>late 1960s, Irish cathlics are sick and tired of being shitted on in Nother Ireland, huge civil disturbances.
>IRA splits into two groups, a more moderate "Officials", and the hardcore Provisional IRA.
To be continued.
>>80323984
I would still rank the PIRA as the most deadly out of all groups ever in Ireland, some of their operations were so clinical and smart.
>>80324220
Who were the main istigators of the conflicts?
Which side was more brutal?
Was there really as much oppression by the British that the formation of the IRA was justified?
>>80324659
fuck wrong post >>80324223
>>80324557
Cheers anon, keep it coming
>>80324659
1. You could say the instigators were the inequality Catholics faced in Northern Ireland but when British army entered NI they made the situation a lot worse.
2. I would say the PIRA were the most brutual but the loyalist side did have its fair side of tortures
3. Yes there was oppression, Catholics were being harassed, innocents were shot dead, Catholics were beaten and loyalists were doing the same.
>>80324557
>early 1970s, really bad civil unrest, bombing, firebombing, shootings and all that.
>Cease fire called, falls apart, and PIRA does "Long war"
>PIRA carries out regular low level attacks with the occasional big newsworthy attack to keep pressure on UK.
>Northern Irish Loyalist kill plenty of people too
>1987 PIRA screws up a bombing, kills a bunch of old people
>1988, Loyalist throws grenades at a IRA funeral, IRA mob kills UK troops who make wrong turn.
>Population is sick and tired of the fighting
>peace feelers happen, attacks continue, but mostly sniper attacks and the occasional big bomb in england.
>PIRA agrees to disarm and only do ballot box.
>PIRA sorta disarms
>RIRA splits
>RIRA really screws up a bombing
>Mostly peaceful since now the IRA are drug dealers.
Literal potato niggers
>>80325235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milltown_Cemetery_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing
>>80324159
leave troll
>>80324659
>Was there really as much oppression by the British that the formation of the IRA was justified?
In 1969 the catholics fucking BEGGED for military assistance to be sent in to protect the Falls Road during the summer rioting. The British army were welcomed as heroes on the Falls Road.
Then 2 or 3 guys (hardline republicans) decided to snipe the soldiers every night, until the soldiers lost their shit one night and ransacked the houses looking for the guns.
The searches started a shitstorm of spiralling violence each night until soldiers were dying and civies were getting killed in the crossfire of nightly riots and street gun battles.
The rest is history.
>>80322789
Bunch of communist subversive faggots, may they all rot in hell.
>>80322956
please tell me you have cancer.
>>80326534
Hopefully you suffer in hell for eternity.
>>80324585
Could you give an example? Also what is your overall view about IRA? Was it forming IRA necessary to achieving what Ireland wanted?
>>80326629
Typical leaf.
>>80326250
>>80324557
>>80325047
Cheers lads
Pretty based freedom fighters
Too bad they were wrong that Ireland should be free since in the decades following it's turned into a multiculty shithole and muzzies are taking advantage of it.
Contextually it was the right thing to do but they shouldn't have disappeared after
Ironically the northern Irish who were cucks have now reversed the roles and are the only save place left in the UK
Solid fighters compared to any shitskin terrorists you could name.
Fought bravely.
Gave warnings to avoid civilian casualties in many cases.
When they blew up Canary Wharf and did a billion in damage the British finally came to the negotiating table.
Also, they came within ten minutes of blowing up Margaret Thatcher at a Brighton hotel.
Overall, top level freedom fighters.
>>80323646
It depends. A lot of southerners think we're savages. Can't blame them too much for that. The northerners typically line up with us more, but a lot of them arn't as arsed to do anything about England. But as a whole, we do come together wondering if our collective boot weight could crush England's throat.
>>80322789
i think they are fighting the wrong fight. they should be united with their british white brethren.
>>80322789
Pol concensus is that tgey dont like scottish or irish nationalism. English and yanks are butt buddies. English are bottom.
>>80324585
I wouldn't disagree, I think there politics were shit, but their operations were excellent.
>>80326637
Harrods department store bombing (think like bombing macy's in NYC
Killing lord mountbatten and 16 paratroopers, on the same day.
Shelling 10 downing street (UK white house)
Almost killing thatcher and the cabinate at a hotel.
There early 1990s sniper campaign.
>>80327420
So why were they so deadly? Is it the way they were structured? Or UK being terrible at counter terrorism? Or Irish people are not meant to be fucked with
>>80328383
The leadership understood the strategic idea of long term conflict, avoided huge civilian casualties in most attacks, and let fighters leave with little issue if they wished, which weakened attempts by the birtish to turn IRA agents to double agents. Also, they had talented bomb makers and first world educations.
As if a IRA member was compromised, he could go to his commanding officer and say "my family needs me" and they could walk away.
They also got a huge amounts of weapons from Lybia and a steady supply of AR-18s from the US
>>80328383
The PIRA structure was not the same over the whole war, and they adapted it to meet the british threat.
>>80326637
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrenpoint_ambush
This was one of their best coordinated attacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downing_Street_mortar_attack
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Newry_mortar_attack
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Armagh_Sniper_
The list could go on, the fact that the PIRA got to the point where they could hand make their own mortars to fire at Army barracks or army watchtowers just from scratch. They hand made all their bombs and had deadly tactics and understanding of guerrilla warfare. They are very underrated in terms of some of the best and advanced guerrilla warfare ever seen.
>>80329375
They had cell structures of maybe 8 men in each one to avoid being compromised by spies, each cell had their own leadership and running which meant no cells knew anything else about the other ones so they couldn't get infiltrated easily.
>>80329702
Now even national militaries that do not have huge Military industrial complexes are using their "propane mortars" as a a home build weapon for use in war.
>>80329942
Prior to the long war era they had much larger cells.
>>80322789
Commie criminals. Fuck the IRA. They are literally a communist front btw. A holdover now but still communists.
>>80330078
Yeah they adopted cell structures because they had a problem with informers but the only unit who didn't use cells was the South Armagh brigade who still used battalions because there was little threat of informers because of obvious reasons.
>>80322789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ot7amDyqbY
>>80330326
Yep. South Armagh must of been a hardcore place.
>>80330563
I have read the book about them called ''bandit country'' have you read it?
>>80330763
That one of the few I have not read. Will do.
Just finished INLA - Deadly Divisions
>>80330978
I have read killing rage and bandit country because I was very interested in the south armagh brigade. You got any recommendations on IRA books?
>>80331183
I am headed to bed but Provos: The IRA & Sinn Fein was good, but it might be a little basic for someone who already read up on the subject.
INLA -deadly divisions was quite good, but that a offshoot of the IRA
>>80331495
I'll look into them but you should read Bandit country. Night.
>>80331703
Yea, I been looking for it, It not a ebook and they want 20 bucks for a paperback.
>>80331796
https://www.scribd.com/doc/265105673/Bandit-Country-Ira-Toby-Harnden theres the link mate, i got it from there
>>80332051
>https://www.scribd.com/doc/265105673/Bandit-Country-Ira-Toby-Harnden
You are a good man
They accomplished literally nothing and are as bad as mudslimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y1mBmkLaII
>>80322789
irish are gypsy niggers, pure scum.
>>80322789
pro-balestinian cucks
>>80334709
enjoy, its really interesting and mind blowing
>>80325235
Kind of skipped over the Birmingham pub bombings there. And Warrington.
>>80322789
First class freedom fighters.
>>80322927
Nonsense.
>>80324016
The red pill is that they are the good guys. The english are basically the original niggers, coming up in your land and fucking shit up.
And yes technically the ira (and all the many offshoots) are the legitimate heirs the the 1921 Second Dail (the last all-ireland parliament).
>>80339790
*to the
>>80339790
>>80339890
fucking plastic paddy yank
>>80339790
kek that pic
>>80322789
Hey, they got some nice songs!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHY14OVk7r0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP6oWExnoRQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT0yoo9B2Bc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTJQkhWZekI
But as terrorists, or freedom fighters, or whatever IRA is a disfunctional mess of an organisation.
>>80322956
greetings turkroach
>>80326637
Let's face it, the British government wasn't interested in negotiating with PIRA no matter how many people it killed. It was when PIRA realised that attacking the centres of financial capitalism in London that Britain had no choice but to come to an agreement...or see the Stock Market plunge. Hence the Bishopsgate and Canary Wharf bombs in the early 90s
>>80322789
1 post by this id
>>80322789
Commie faggots in ski masks.
Not a single redeeming quality.
>>80323646
Because Braveheart wasn't a documentary.
Learn some fucking history.
Why are the British okay with a Scottish independence but don't want a united Ireland?
what did that guy Liam Neeson played in that movie (michael something?) do?
>>80322789
total irish pussies. They could help their cause by adjusting islam. The Queen may even grant freedom.
>>80322956
>mutliates
looks like they chopped up a little bit too much from you, amk
>>80323163
And this attitude is why I hate jocks. Would rather side with fucking roaches over their brothers.
If the IRA are freedom fighters so are ISIS.
>>80322789
Freedom fighters until they killed Michael Collins, then terrorists
Celt cucks utterly Blown the Fuck Out by their English superiors - again. The history of the celt is being driven into the hills and dominated by us, where they belong.
Based Cromwell.
English by the Grace of God.
Britain belongs to the English.
>>80323163
I thought the protestant Irish were the descendants of Scottish settlers? Technically the English were trying to keep peace between Scotland settlers and native Irish from my limited understanding
>>80344978
The British don't care, half of Northern Ireland wants to remain British though
>>80345964
>Britain belongs to the English.
>Britain belongs to Allah
>>80345730
Irish are good ole boys.
>>80347790
>Shariah for the cUcK
>>80345730
I'm sorry but in what way is fighting for the right to self governance equivalent to behead all who don't agree with our interpretation of a 1500 year old book?
>>80348111
Trips speak the truth
>>80347790
what about the indians?
Something that confuses me
For instance I live in a warzone
I cant rely on the goverment. Local gangs are taking over the daily economy.
Cant trust my neigberhood. Me and Some fammilies gonna buy weapons to protect our property and family
So many people call me terrorist.
Its confusing pol. ;(
>>80322789
>What does /pol think of the IRA?
drug dealers and marxists 0/10
>>80347888
>>80348111
>>80327089
England could destroy both Scotland and Ireland without really trying... basic math really.
>>80345964
English by the Grace of God eh, or maybe by the wrath of allah? pic related
>>80348234
What about them? Convert or die, is the Islamic way.
>>80327225
the british treated the irish (specifically irish catholics) worse than they treated browns, catholics in northern ireland barely had the right to vote until the mid-late 1960s, while at the same time the UK was granting citizenship and rights to every dindu who came off the boat from the windies.
I don't like the IRA though because of the Easter Rising, while men like my great grandfather were off in the Somme fighting the hun under Redmond as a National Volunteer, who hoped to gain Ireland's freedom through paying the blood price, who wanted peaceful relations between the UK and Ireland, a bunch of commies then started a fucking war.
I also don't like them for the Irish Civil War, where they tried to bite off more than they could chew which resulted in thousands of deaths in a bullshit brother's war.
I also don't like them for, after the victory of the Irish Civil rights movement keeping their bullshit going, though at the same time, the ulstermen were literal criminal deathsquads, so as far as the IRA were protectors of the community against loyalist butcher bands and against heavy handed RUC knobs, they were okay.
But really the Troubles was fucking bullshit and frankly Sinn Fein can go fuck itself and so can DUP.
t. Liverpool-born taigh
>>80322789
>tfw no IRAfu
>>80322789
shit tier resistance movement. They have nothing on the likes of FARC or Hamas.
>>80348174
From the perspective of some sunni iraqi tribesman ISIS are fighting against shia oppressors installed by foreighn invaders. Pretty much the same as IRA mass beheadings just local specifics.
>>80322789
Best guys in the world
>>80327044
>Too bad they were wrong that Ireland should be free since in the decades following it's turned into a multiculty shithole and muzzies are taking advantage of it.
>Ireland a muzzie ridden hellhole
Stop mixing it up fucktard
Ireland has almost no muzzies
Well they do have too many niggers in the cities but that's nothing special for a European country.
Rotherham, cologne, Paris are not in Ireland...
>>80327044
>Americuck education
>>80322789
Killed more of their own due to fear of informers than the British Army ever did. Scum bags and criminals that targeting civilians. Where are they now? Drug dealers and gun runners. Kill them all.
>>80348916
>the british treated the irish (specifically irish catholics) worse than they treated browns, catholics in northern ireland barely had the right to vote until the mid-late 1960s
Looking at what the catholic church does and that most catholics I've met are the open borders crowd, the british didn't treat them bad enough.
>>80322789
Based
>>80345964
Cromwell got BTFO at Clonmel and went home to England. If he had stayed in Ireland to see the war to the end he would have died like his son in law.
The PIRA also killed 3 times as many of the British forces.
>>80322789
By the eighties they were just a bunch of assholes. They may once have had a point, once, and even that's not 100% ironclad but by the end of the movement it was just a legitimised form of structured chimpout for disaffected Irish youths and a fucking awesome way for the top brass to build a criminal empire.
>>80349816
Nice try decoy Italy.
Marxists and drug dealers.
>>80349144
That's a man.
>we want independence
>get independence
>country is a leftist shithole
>IRA now deal drugs
You can't make it up
>>80322789
The original IRA in the 1910s-20s was alright, they were justifiable freedom fighters. The groups calling themselves IRA that came afterwards are just criminals, drug dealers, terrorists and murderers.
>>80322789
Did look up to them, but as my political beliefs changed I realised that they're lefty cucks.
>>80322789
I'm Northern Irish. I live here in NI. I was born in 1968. Let me ask you some questions.
How would you feel if armed men stopped your car and pointed rifles in your face?
How would you feel if you almost got shot by British Army snipers at a roadblock in the middle of the night?
How would you feel if your home isn't safe?
That's not even half of what I put up with.
PIRA and UVF are scum.
>>80322789
Everyone in Northern Ireland is a terrorist. The Nationalists/Republicans, Unionists/Loyalists and the British Government.
All of them were terrorists and committed terrible acts that broke international law. It is why there has never been a formal truth process as all of them know what they did and don't want to come out.
It is regardless anyway, Northern Ireland is going to collapse economically or break into violence again as they are useless and enjoy killing people.
How are we watching the 12th riots this year?
>>80352276
I would feel mexican
>>80322789
Another band of militants useful for exploitation.
What did they fight for again?
>>80356890
They started due to Unionist oppression and lack of human rights for Catholics as human rights marches just got attacked and beaten up. Being shot and killed by loyalists also made situations worse as well.
As JFK once said "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
It's sad. It's like watching a car driving into a wall but you can't push the brakes. Violence was inevitable but thankfully we have peace now. Northern Ireland needs to work together, stop the thinly veiled insults and stabilize the Northern Ireland economy for the huge hit it is going to take.
>>80323487
good one
>defeat oppressors using guns
>then process to ban guns
I don't think about them at all.
I do support ethnic nationalism, and I think ireland should be free.
However they were marxist cucks, who loved muzzies and the pro ireland groups would rather have blacks and arabs than brits.
This song is dear and near to me
A song of truth and liberty
Of the boys who beat the IRA
Those loyal men of the UDA
For 30, 000 men have we
Who'll fight to keep our ulster free
We're on our guard all night and day
Those rebel scum can bear the light
They kill and murder in the night
But time draws near to their doomsday
They'll be destroyed by the UDA
For 30, 000 men have we
Who'll fight to keep our ulster free
We're on our guard all night and day
For we're the men of the UDA
instrumental Now this advice I'll freely give
To all those rebels that wish to live
Lay down your arms this very day
You cannot beat the UDA
For 30, 000 men have we
Who'll fight to keep our ulster free
We're on our guard all night and day
For we're the men of the UDA
So lift your glass and toast away
To the UDA and victory
For they will surely win the day
So here's to glout to the UDA
For 30, 000 men have we
Who'll fight to keep our ulster free
We're on our guard all night and day
For we're the men of the UDA
>>80352276
My dad lived in Belfast. Left in late 80s.
His parents were protestant, but apolitical. My dad was nonreligious and apolitical.
He just wanted to live a peaceful life and had to put up with the brainless thugs on both sides fucking his city up.
Both sides were scum and the more that died the better.
>>80351973
This.
IRA were and are pieces of shit two bit gangsters.
>>80357866
>posts Red Hand along with shite song
>flag
I'll never stop laughing
>>80322789
Righteous Irish nationalists trying to cleanse their land from disgusting Anglo-Saxons.
>>80322789
Same as Anc in south Africa and affiliates
left wing scum
>>80358333
>snipers
Because IRA can't handle a proper fight and can only pull off something a 12 year old in Syria can do.
>>80322789
Terrorists backed by Jews in the USA. All of Hibernia should be annexed. They have no army. A single regiment could do it.
>>80322956
Better watch your coastline cockroach. They're coming... ;)
>>80323163
Can't wait for your country to leave the UK. Over represented,literally full of cucks and marxists and a financial drain in every way possible.
>>80359104
Maybe cleanse your land of Persian blood. Starting with yourself.
>>80360012
or maybe kill yourself you fucking liberal jew
>>80360610
>liberal jew
Hilarious how you can make that assumption considering literally one post above I'm promoting the occupation of nations and the genocide of another.
Nice memes mate. It'll surely save you when the Turks come to play. Then again if you're one of those half breeds you'll probably join the Turks.
>>80347388
>trying to reason and educate a jock
It's not worth it m8
fucking terrorists you cucks
>>80361033
>I'm promoting the occupation of nations and the genocide of another.
That's what jews do, if you weren't one you'd support the IRA.
Ye, nice memes as well, don't know if they'll help you when the pakis invade your home and rape your family, then again you're one of those degenerates so you'll probably enjoy it.
>>80324016
People don't really care anymore. You might get some history of you talk to people in the shitholes
socialist terrorist cucks the IRA is a leftie group if you support them then you are also a leftie cuck.
They don't fight like a conventional army, when they fight they don't wear military uniform, the uniforms they do wear are just for marches and a recruitment devise that's just for their propaganda.
America will soon know what its like when their niggers start killing more and more police officers
>>80322789
THE BI-MONTHLY MI-5 THREAD.
lime
>>80338856
>Birmingham pub bombings
>And Warrington
>Warrington
Why the fuck would you hit Warrington? It's already a shithole. Nobody probably noticed.
>>80323163
Fuck off traitor.
>>80360610
>calls others liberal jews
>supports a marxist organisation supported by the jews
>>80322789
Wannabe drug runners who care scared of journalists and their own shadows. In a stand up fight they would lose horribly.
The show Deadliest Warrior had an ep where it was thw ira vs taliban. I'd tell anyone to give it a watch.
>>80369202
cry*
>>80351973
>IRA now deal drugs
Source this happening ONE time. Just once would be enough.
>>80338856
>peace feelers happen, attacks continue, but mostly sniper attacks and the occasional big bomb in england.
THat includes Warrington
>early 1970s, really bad civil unrest, bombing, firebombing, shootings and all that.
includes the pub bombings
>>80371185
Irish Republican Terrorism and Politics: A Comparative Study of the Official ...
By Kacper Rekawek
Linkages Between the Illegal Drugs
Traffic and Terrorism
by
Grant Wardlaw (Conflict Quarterly)
Theres reams of sources that the PIRA demands protection money from drug dealing.
RIRA and CIRA are more apt to drug deal themselves.
OOH AH UP THE RA
THEY ALL FELL DOWN THE STAIRS HAHA
