Gun lovers are just going to have to give up assault rifles.
There is no justifiable reason for them to be on the street and accessible at all. Hobby, fetish and tradition are not worth the risk to our society.
And don't even start the pedantic definition debate. I don't give a goddamn what you call it. Don't even start, that has precluded reform far too long.
Any weapon capable killing an office party before any can get out, of spraying 100 LGBT folks celebrating pride in a safe place, capable of overpowering a police force and picking off 5 and hitting 11 does not belong in the arms of any citizen. No matter how well adjusted, clean or quiet.
We are a grown up society, a country capable of changing. Change isn't always comfortable. But, just as the people got on board or got left behind throughout the civil rights movement, women's movement and the marriage equally movement, among so many others, the people are ready. We've had enough.
Gun reform is a civil rights movement. It is a social movement. Those movements always move forward, even with set backs. Get on board.
(you)
pistols cause more deaths than rifles
just imagine
concealed carry is abolished and open carry instated
instead of evil nasty pistols hidden and ticked away everyone has to talk around with a big old clunky rifle out in the open
>>80321404
No reason to have cars capable of going 150mph when the highest speed limit in the nation is 75mph. Seize all cars that can go faster than 70 NOW!
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
We are meant to be able to own the same weapons as the military and have the capacity to defend ourselves and our freedom from threats foreign and domestic, pussy.
>>80321671
Thank you
>>80321671
>>80321789
Anyways, what part of Well regulated in the 2nd amendment do you gun nuts not understand, It was put in there to protect us from people like you.
Here's a video for you shitstains to get educated from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbY45rHj8w
> capable of overpowering a police force and picking off 5 and hitting 11 does not belong in the arms of any citizen
Isn't this why you have gun rights in the first place, so you can rebel against the government if your freedom is threatened or taken? That you can defend yourselves against those who are already armed?
If you give up your guns you give up your protection against tyranny, and you give full power to the government to do wrong or right meaning you lose even more power as a citizen.
>>80321826
>citing daily show.
Now I know this is bait.
"assault rifles"
are statistically insignificant in the number of deaths and wounded.
they are, the the most effective weapon available to resist the government.
>>80322009
>I cannot form a legitimate argument
>call it b8
Just leave the thread and board forever, you're too pathetic to be here.
>>80321404
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>>80321404
America doesn't have a gun problem, it has a violent nigger problem. Ban assault niggers.
>>80322150
The right to bear arms is ALREADY “infringed” for many, and for very good reason. Here’s a short list of things that could easily happen if we were to give you your way, remove all “infringements,” and completely deregulate the Second Amendment:
>A career felon could walk out of prison, and purchase a full-auto AK-47 from Walmart
>Your psycho ex could buy a sniper rifle and silencer from “some guy” for $100
>A mentally handicapped child could get a pistol from a vending machine
>Known terrorists and those with terrorist affiliations could easily purchase Stinger missile launchers to shoot down airliners, and RPGs to blow up your Hummer
>Any nutjob could walk out of the asylum, buy a grenade launcher and flamethrower, and visit your kids at school.
Shall not be infringed, faggot.
>>80321826
Well-regulated circa 1700s meant in good working order or well maintained.
Also under United States Federal law, 10 U.S. Code § 311 all able bodied male citizens age 17 to 45 are part of the unorganized militia, separate from the National Guard.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311
>>80321404
(((United Canadians from America)))
>>80322235
>>Any nutjob could walk out of the asylum, buy a grenade launcher and flamethrower, and visit your kids at school.
Flame throwers aren't even regulated except in Commifornia.
>>80321826
Notice it doesn't says the people's right not the militias right.
Remember when the government vowed to take away our crack and heroin, made it illegal, and then everyone in America stopped using it?
do liberals think semi automatic rifles are a new thing or something? like they just hit the shelves in gun stores this decade or something? or were annual mass shootings in the 50s and 80s im not aware of?
>>80322235
>implying all of those things don't already happen even with the laws in place
>liberals pretend to be amateur scientists with m-muh global warming models
>ignore actual statistics showing that the only thing which correlates with gun violence is minority population
>>80322393
>using a 18th century definition for modern times
The founders don't rule us anymore and we are fit to change the law as we see fit. The reason that ancient definition still applies is because people aren't reading right or thinking hard enough.
And the Supremes can rule as they see fit. Slavery used to be legal and accepted in America, too, and their 'votes' cast by their 'masters' were worth a percentage of a white vote. That idiocy was enshrined in law, too. Didn't make it right, didn't make it sensible, didn't make it reflective of our values as a nation.
Maybe we can get over this dumbass gun culture. That's MY hope. It should be at least as hard to qualify to get a gun as it is to get a driver's license. Frankly, I'd like to see it be a bit harder.
I'm tired of children being gunned down. A kid was murdered in front of a local high school yesterday, and a couple others wounded, by someone driving by. The kid was the baby of the family, a "stay home" type, a good student, and he had the bad luck to be in front of his own school to catch some lead during a fire drill.
Sick of this crap. I've had enough.
>>80322235
Your picture is dumb and you are dumb, too. The Constitution in no way shape or form even mentions slavery. Let alone a right to own people. In fact, it specifically states all men are created equal
Fuck off, nigger
>2 men took on government forces they felt were corrupt
>took out three times as many they did
The 2nd Amendment did its job.
>>80322473
>>80322390
>>80322393
I think it just requires five justices to think a bit differently about the meanings of words.
reg·u·late
ˈreɡyəˌlāt/
verb
past tense: regulated; past participle: regulated
control or maintain the rate or speed of (a machine or process) so that it operates properly.
"a hormone that regulates metabolism and organ function"
synonyms: control, adjust, manage
"the flow of the river has been regulated"
control or supervise (something, especially a company or business activity) by means of rules and regulations.
"the organization that regulates fishing in the region"
synonyms: supervise, police, monitor, check, check up on, be responsible for; More
set (a clock or other apparatus) according to an external standard.
>>80322579
You are correct, the Supreme Court can rule as they see fit but they cannot change the constitution as it was at the time of it's writing. The only way to do that (as they did for prohibition and slavery) is by the amendment process.
Infringe is defined as restricting or hindering. You want to restrict the second amendment? You need to amend the constitution to make it legal. That's all there is to it. They must also repeal 10 U.S. Code § 311 because as it stands the people are still the militia.
It has to be done legally or not at all.
>>80321826
>We lefties use "regulation" as word that means restricting rights.
>Clearly those guys way back when, in the document that spends all its time outlining rights that will not be restricted, were using that word in the same manner as we people who hate everything they stood for.
>>80321404
I live on land that has coyote and hog problems. ARs are hands down the best tool for the job.
Besides, most of the victims of gun violence are gang bangers shooting each other with pistols and old AKs
>>80322235
The first man can easily auto sear (or just nig rig a string) on a straw purchased AK, or get one even cheaper from his illegal dealer carlos
The psycho ex probably wouldn't know how to operate a sniper rifle so a silencer wouldn't help her.
Gun vending machines don't even exist in completely unregulated anarchist paradises.
If a terrorist could purchase a stinger missile so could I. Also the government still exists retard.
>>80322235
Career felons can already get guns any time they want, and much faster than any law-abiding citizen, who has to fill out multiple forms of paperwork and endure 'waiting periods.'
And as far as "KNOWN TERRORISTS" Obongo has already supplied all of them (as long as they are Saudi-sponsored ISIS and al-CIAda terrorists) with all the stinger missiles they want. Your arguments are really empty.
>>80322579
Cry more, faggot. Your feelings do not trump rights. Also, all of them.
>>80322131
If you really want to get into it fine.
According to the US government, the militia is formed of all able bodied males age 17 to 45.
Well regulated in the sense that the founding father meant didn't meant controlled but ready and able. They wanted the people to have sufficient arms and ammo to be able to not only defend themselves but if the need ever came to be, to be able to fight any enemy, from invading army to the government itself if it forgot why we declared independence to begin with.
But this thread was obviously created to be bait and not debate as you are already very set in your thought pattern and just want replies.
So congratulations, you got me to spend a couple minutes fact checking myself and typing this reply out.
>>80322811
>You are correct, the Supreme Court can rule as they see fit but they cannot change the constitution as it was at the time of it's writing
False false false.
>>80322235
Yes brother take away the guns, it's the first step in creating a racially pure nation and making sure the unpure can't resist. Sieg Heil!
Gun control is a fantasy
over 300 million guns in the US, legally, who knows how many illegal guns there are.
It's logistically impossible to disarm the US population.
Guns are here to stay, you can thank your democratic AND republican legislatures for that
>>80321404
Yes! Yes, yes, yes! Think of the horrific, menacing death devices!
>>80322235
that all sounds way more interesting than my shitty life now, bring it.
>>80321404
only 100 fags?
Better luck next time
;_;
>>80322579
>since the lexicon of english has changed and it fits my agenda, we can use modern definitions of a phrase that originally meant something different
absolute cancer
>>80322579
So repeal the 2nd amendment. Should be easy if your position is right.
>>80322776
The 2nd amendment was a mistake and the Constitution is not even worth the ancient paper it is printed on
>>80321404
SHALL
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INFRINGED
>>80323204
Then repeal it.
>>80321404
(((((Crooked Hillary))))) not getting that the NRA /is/ the country. We /are/ the NRA.
>>80321404
>implying assault rifles account for fuck all gun violence in america
>>80322579
Move to mexico guns are completely illegal, it's a paradise nobody ever dies from gun violence ever!
>>80322995
If you have proof show me otherwise where the Supreme Court can overrule an amendment.
>>80323204
>concealed carries haven't deterred mass shootings
Why do people lie on the internet?
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/concealed-carrier-stops-mass-shooting/
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/05/31/concealed-carrying-hero-battled-mass-shooter-houston-media-silent/
>>80321404
Most of those are suicides, probably caused by politicians like her.
Excuse me, I just have to post this here.
>>80323204
In your opinion.
>>80322579
>He doesn't undertand the social liberties that are guaranteed by the bill of rights.
I have a problem with this whole freedom of speech culture. I think the first amendment should be changed because it's no longer relevant. Society should be able to throw people who speak incorrectly into prison.
Also I high think it's time that we allow the standing army to be able to turn our houses into their own property. I mean we're not fighting the British redcoats so WTF is up with that?
Do you see yet how fucked up your thinking is?
>>80321404
>muh salt rifles
All rifles combined account for less than 10% of gun deaths. An "assault rifle" is just another a semi-auto rifle.
>muh US has the most gun deaths!
60% of US gun deaths are suicides; and it's the same relative amount of suicide as other countries like the UK and Japan, they just kill themselves in more gruesome ways because they can't get guns.
The US is also 111th in murder-per-capita. Countries like Mexico, Venezuela, and Brazil with strict-as-fuck gun laws still have higher murder rates. The reason we have lots of murders is because of shitskins; which leftists want to import more of for some reason.
The major city in the US with the lowest murder rate is Plano, Texas - where lots of people are gun owners, and the gun laws are lax.
>we can take ur guns away if we want, you don't need big magazines, etc.
The Supreme Court case of Heller v. Disctrict of Columbia already ruled that owning a semi-automatic gun is a Constitutional right:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller
From a philosophical/Constitutional perspective, gun ownership should be a right. The Preamble to the Constitution states that people have a right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". If citizens have a right to life, that means that they should have a right to defend their life by adequate means. Women, old people, and the disabled can't defeat a gang of dindus in melee combat - thus, guns are needed.
>b-b, but, you don't need guns because you have cops!
The Supreme Court Case Warren v District of Columbia ruled that the police do not have a duty to risk their life to protect you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
Also, aren't you lefty types always shitting on the cops? I thought if a cop gets anywhere near you, it would trigger you.
>Stefan Molyneux shits on gun control:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hyQDQPEsrs
>Bill Whittle shits on gun control:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
>>80323472
news.yahoo.com/guns-dont-deter-crime-study-finds-180710261.html
More conclusions from actual studies:
>A well-armed populace does not deter murders
>Higher ownership of guns in a state mean more armed robberies
>Higher ownership of guns in a state means more homicides
>There is no scientific data that supports the theory that a well-armed population would reduce violent crime, but plenty that shows the opposite
>Firearm assaults are 6.8 times more frequent in states with highest rates of gun ownership than states with the lowest
>Gun ownership correlates with higher rates of all homicides, not just homicide with a gun.
>Increases in gun ownership precede increases in violent crime.
>Where more people own guns, the homicide rate of friends and family increases.
>The presence of a gun in a home increases the rate of suicide.
- At least one Congressman has admitted he doesn't care what the data has to say.
>>80323204
Oh, okay, so you wouldn't mind losing your rights? You wouldn't mind being deprived of free speech and association, you wouldn't mind losing the right to practice (or not practice) a faith? You'd be cool with having soldiers stationed in your house on your dime? You just don't see the problem with the justice system throwing you in prison on a whim? You're perfectly alright with the possibility of having cruel and unusual punishments inflicted on you?
Get out.
Niggers are just gonna have to give up food stamps and we will have to stop educating illigals. we lose millions of dollars to this and it keeps people out of jobs and etc . This has gone on for too long. Etc etc.
Has there ever been a legit gun control anon on /pol/? Or is it all just trolls and shills?
>>80321404
How many magazines do you recommend I have?
My harness holds 6 (2 rows of 3) but I figure 3+1 is breddy gud, that way my harness isn't unwieldy.
>>80323761
Republicans think due process is more important than safety. If you're dead, rights don't matter.
What about our rights to not be shot? Republicans may want to
read up on life, liberty and all that stuff.
Webm of cop getting murked with that AR 15. Brap braaaaap
>>80321404
Nah.
>>80322235
Holy shit are you a retard
Felons SHOULD NOT be allowed to purchase weapons. They've ruined they're rights by proving they aren't trusted to be a functioning member of society.
You shouldn't be able to purchase automatic weapons without a FUCKING PERMIT, self explanatory.
Maybe only be able to be legally able to buy a firearm in a business. Or to exchange firearms in a private party, maybe do it in public court?
>silencers should just not be legal
WTF when would there be vending machines with guns in them? That's actual retardation and you KNOW that wouldn't happen.
Require a special permit to have explosives. Oh wait... We have that already, and it kind of FUCKIN works, just saying
Taking banning the posession of automatic weapond makes sense, 9 out of ten automatic rifles can be changed to semi-auto fairly easily. But when you ban the manufacturing, and purchase of "high powered" semi automatic rifles, you're removing an ENTIRE TYPE of weapon off the market. "High powered" semi auto rifle is literally any fucking rifle that's semi-automatic, all that leaves is bolt-action. Next, is handguns, then we have to fight out tyrannical country with plastic SPORKS cause they took away the plastic forks for the long sharp ends.
>>80321826
Washing, Jefferson, Adams - all of them Founding Fathers, and all of them were 100% cool with citizens owning guns.
All throughout US history, it has been a precedent that citizens are allowed to own guns. Show me any evidence before 1900 that the US government wouldn't let citizens have guns unless they were part of a "militia."
Gun control will only work if you rule with fear and execute millions. Which let's be honest with the way humanity is going, that's what it's really going to take to turn things around.
>>80323599
>Higher ownership of guns in a state mean more armed robberies
>Higher ownership of guns in a state means more homicides
Aren't these conflating cause and effect? If you live in a dangerous area with a lot of armed robbery and homicide, of course you'll be more inclined to get a gun to protect yourself.
>>80323560
Yeah but those pistol deaths don't cause the kind of instant mass casualties that a rifle does. And the point here is that guns need to be regulated so the democrat voting cat ladies who watch CNN all day don't have to see anymore of these mass shootings on tv.
They don't actually give a flying fuck about the daily handgun murders that take place in this country.
>>80321404
You do realize that if you take suicides, accidents, and justified homicides out of the equation that ~80% of the murders in the US are gang related. Further rifles (long guns per FBI statistics) account for less than 5% of the gun related deaths per year.
READ
UNBIASED
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>>80324093
>Tfw someone saved a shitty picture I made and its used to promote FREEDOM.
>>80323994
>our rights to not be shot
What about the right to defend yourself by adequate means?
>be feminist
>tell women they will just have to deal with getting raped because shooting Tyrone hurts your fee-fees
>>80323830
It's impossible to argue with these gun nuts. They have the standard answer for all of this. "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun." They think other church members should have been armed. They are a fucking problem on modern society and a enable racist pieces of shit to murder innocent people. Innocent blood is on gunnut and pol's hands.
I almost feel the gun argument is unwinnable.
They are, for all intents and purposes, "climate deniers," flat earthers, science deniers. They have a huge emotional stake in not seeing the "causality" of things you espouse, to things that are happening.
I have an important quote I made about all of this "Gun love is like religion. Facts are useless."
Fuck you guys, I'm out.
>>80321404
Come and take them
>>80321671
Well said.
Hey libcucks, heres your chance. If hundreds of dead children or 50 dead gays didn't get sweeping gun reform to pass, cry over the dead bodies of the police officers who bravely defended your protesting asses. I will still be laughing at your futile efforts to pass one single piece of legislation. See you at the next mass shooting.
Switzerland.
Come and take them
>>80321404
Then you're going to have to take them from me.
>>80322235
A career felon shouldn't be allowed back on the streets.
>>80324257
I'd let her murder me, if you know what I mean lads
>>80324303
>Fuck you guys, I'm killing myself.
Another /pol/ victory.
>>80324303
bye
>>80321404
Buddy, if you try to take away our rifles, there will be a war. That's not an edgy threat, that's a simple fact.
>>80322579
That picture's just unapologetically obfuscative and artificially constrained. It's called the right to bear ARMS.
Not "guns", okay, "ARMS!".
Sticking to guns is simply a concession by second amendment defenders to stick to the most practical type of arms.
So back in the day, the weapon of choice for massacres of civilians would have been swords, a fairly decent choice since you wouldn't have to worry about all those pistols and such that people might defend themselves with. Or maybe even better: bows.
So, these people who have a petty selfcentered personal NEED to attack the right to bear arms owe it to try and take on mockery of the prospect of those, that way they still get to attack the second amendment.
>>80324303
American's have a right to own weapons regardless of what you argue
That right isn't going away no matter how much you pout and stamp your feet.
You're just wrong and you need to learn how to deal with it.
>>80321404
Learn what an Assault Rifle is first.
>>80321404
How many people do we lose a day because of war and poverty, Hillary?
>>80321404
>Gun lovers are just going to have to give up assault rifles
Ha, how many in law enforcement are willing to risk their lives confiscating each and every gun? It's simply not possible. You're also forgetting 3d printing.
Let me sum up this thread lads, with an image.
>>80324303
Well maybe just between you and me...
>if the bouncers at the fag-bar were allowed to have guns at their job the sand-niggers with the guns would have died quicker
>>80324660
This. I don't care what laws are passed, how ever many crocodile tears you shed, or how badly you want guns gone. I don't care if a constitutional amendment is passed that repeals the 2nd Amendment. You will never take my AR away from me. N.E.V.E.R.
>>80324660
>Threatening violence over an anonymous anime image board..
That's the very definition of edgy senpai.
>>80321826
>well regulated
This argument just indicates that the government is derelict in its duty to regulate the militia, which is by law everyone between the ages of 17 and 45, with few exceptions.
>>80322579
>>80324674
FOR. FUCKS. SAKE!
>>80321404
Negative rights and universal armament (both of which cone from English common law tradition) is the actual legal and philosophical basis of our society.
>>80321404
Gun grabbers need to give up their right to vote.
You don't deserve to be a citizen.
>>80321404
>capable of overpowering a police force and picking off 5 and hitting 11 does not belong in the arms of any citizen.
He used an old ass sks you fucking fag. Literally qualifies as a relic weapon, has a wood stock and holds 10 rounds at a time.
Fucking neck yourself you nigger.
>>80324990
Even a beloved gun grabbers' boogeyman like the supreme gentleman slashed half his victims to death!
>>80324837
I like it
>>80324837
Saved
ITT:
Obvious bait and the people who bite.
>>80322792
No you dumb ass it takes like 70% of the states to change an ammendment
>>80324303
So trolls and shills it is then.
I have yet to see any arguement for gun control that didn't rely on argumentive fallacies or misrepresentation of facts and stats.
>>80321404
>gun reform is a civil rights movement
>tries to take away a civil right
This is why you incompetent fucks always lose.
Anytime a "movement" sets out to take a right away, they always fail in epic fashion.
>>80323994
Americans are actually safer from gun violence that at any point in american history.
Look at the gun violence stats over time from the 1970s.
How about you actually base your arguments on fact and not just what you see on cable news?
Gun rights are retarded.
As if a Nazi government would attack the right wing conservatives it.. fuck.
If it's just about standing up towards oppression; 600 people have been killed by cops this year alone.
Guns are just trouble, no good trouble.
I know about machining and can appreciate good engineering, but they're dangerous for yourself, your friends, the people in your home and strangers
>>80324257
10/10 would compete with at a shooting range, take out to dinner, and obtain Informed Consent before penetrating
>>80321404
death to hillary. death to obama.
>>80325450
your gun setup
>>80324303
>Tumblr filename
>>80321826
This entirely bait. What does the video have to do with whether or not guns should be regulated?
>>80325154
>He used an old ass sks you fucking fag
You serious? I didn't get a chance to read up too much on the aftermath of last night's Happenings, was it actually an SKS?
Fucking Cucknadian govt better not restrict them or I might have to put another few posts in my fenceline
>>80325411
And you?
>>80325968
I finished dinner.
So I'm good.
>>80325458
Sort of like the pro-life crowd. And yet they've been trying like hell since the 1970s to get roe v wade overturned.
>>80325469
>I know about machining and can appreciate good engineering, but they're dangerous for yourself, your friends, the people in your home and strangers
You have convinced us of the obvious dangers of guns Mr. government. Disarm your police and military immediately. Every officer's family will thank you, a greatful nation will thank you.
>350 million guns in the USA
And there will never ever be anything done about it. The end.
>>80325968
my nigga
>>80326177
Whatever dude, just more cops will get shot, more innocent people will get shot and everyone will just be getting shot for nothing
so a person killed some fags with an assault rifle too be honest even if they were illegal he still would have found a way get one people kill people fucking shocker
>>80321404
I wish they would come for our guns, may the republic of Texas rise again.
>>80322235
>That filename
>All of these painfully sarcastic examples
All of these faggots who thought you were serious
>>80325953
>was it actually an SKS?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/suspect-dallas-killings-served-army-reserve/
SKS and a handgun.
I'm in the same boat as you, I can't even own an SKS with a detachable mag in Maryland because O'Malley is the biggest faggot on the planet and the goddamn niggers voted him into office
>>80326488
Also we have more people in prison per capita than China, so maybe that picture is a bit biased.
Plus my original point still stands; Are the Chinese police killing 1000 people in the streets every year?
>It's time the entire country stands up to (((an organization thst doesn't make or interpret laws and has less political power than the Clinton machine)))
>>80321671
Someone switched a comma for a period :^)
>>80321657
All cars sold in America must be equipped with a circuit that throttles the engine if the car reaches 90 or 100 mph. I forget the number.
Your analogy is fucked because your cars have already been neutered.
Your government cucked you without you even realizing it.
>>80326747
>I'm in the same boat as you
"May Issue" might suck but it's nowhere near as bad as you have it north of the border where you can't even transport a handgun unless it's in a locked container with a fucking hall pass from your regional CFO
>>80323994
That image is impressively stupid, the term assault weapons is never even used to refer to explosives or autocannons, those are conveniently categorized as destructive devices.
>>80324152
I forgot that handgun bullets are less lethal than their rifle counterparts.
>>80326697
white power!
>>80327563
If you say so
So long as the commies and the niggers get put down I don't give a damn.
This whole race of beings is a meme. Nobody's able to get along and everybody want's to be able to have a reason to be able to have stuff that can kill other stuff. Fml. Killing myself.
>byebye
>>80322579
That'll be great. We can return to the utopia brought to us by serfdom. Maybe you just get turned on when a physically superior man rapes your woman.
>>80327994
I claim Jus Primae Noctus on his wife and daughters
>>80321404
>Gun lovers are just going to have to give up assault rifles.
2nd amendment says otherwise
So I get to keep my Battle Rifle then right?
Anyway modly labia and all that.
Forced confiscation will never work.
>>80324913
I wonder why white people would want to keep their guns, It's not like minorities in this country train their children from birth to hate whites or anything....
>>80327236
Kek if only I was this stupid
>>80327949
>doesn't like people owning stuff that can kill other stuff
>going to use the stuff he owns to kill himself
do it faggot
>>80321404
fuck you nigger
I'd like to see you try to take them
>>80328240
Forgot pic
>270m estimated guns in the US
>that's considered a low estimate
>318m people in the US
>a good number of cops own guns (especially in rural areas) and are pro gun ownership
>a good number of the military (especially the door kickers) are gun owners and are pro gun ownership
It literally would be unenforceable.
>>80321826
>Well regulated
Well regulated means NOT controlled or overseen by the government.
>>80321404
If you took guns away from non whites you would have almost no gun violence, true story.
The few sensationalized and blown up "mass shootings" by the press, are engineered to make you avoid looking at the actual mathematical fact that non whites commit the most crime and the most gun violence by far.
This is the hilarity of blacks protesting against guns. But you "can't profile like that" ofcourse. Eventhough it's statistically true.
Ofcourse i won't argue that guns should be taken away but if you are logically looking at who is most dangerous when wielding fire arms and you want to frame it that way, you would end up looking at non whites without a doubt as the massively major culprit, and then what would your sorry ass do then, you'd have to admit that the stereotypes were accurate, or backtrack and say maybe everyone should keep their guns in the interest of fairness.. either way you lose because the facts are not with you.
>>80328539
>sexy wood on g3 platform
>>80328896
It's just a cheap CETME m8. I would like a PTR with G3 wood on it though. That and an FAL.
>>80329155
Poor fag me settled with a century arms. Will buy fal or ptr when funds allow. Have shot an m1a and garand from my pops. We ready.
Ban all cars, trucks, etc as they cause 30,000 deaths a year. Mandate public transportation for all. If U can't get there by Public trans then u dont have to go, Hail Bernie !!
>>80321826
Uh. No...
>>80323204
Move to Canada then, libcuck.
I think guns are good and bad
If your gonna argue for the second ammendment argue with actual answers
I like guns because they are loud engineering masterpieces that can shoot cans of beer and are some of the pinacles of mankind's engineering. Because of guns we are out of the food chain, think about that for a minute guns and fire deserve a pat on the back for getting us this far. Hell even fire, if controlled properly can take you too the moon and beyond. but in the hands of someone careless or crazy you could burn down a village.
Yes you can technically walk over into a school and shoot up the place, but that rarely happens
Severe mass shootings (10+ killed) are like plane crashes, everyone's afraid of dying in a plane crash, but they areally so rare
Im personally a liberal, I like guns because they are fun and second ammendment
IMO need to fund NASA Fund NOAA and do something about climate change Now before we get millions of climate refugees that we can't feed, can't house or clothe or integrate into society.
I think if you wanna carry a gun fine, but show the god damn respect for the weapon
The facts are though there are 300 million guns in America its just not gonna happen
You could make the same argument about the removal of the clitoris. If we allow women to have sexual pleasure there is to much risk of adultery, venereal disease, and unwanted pregnancy. As a society it's time to move on and do the common sense thing and circumcise women.
>>80322235
You think that's scary!? Go check out what the FBI anon said about Hillary and the Clinton foundation after you hear that even you will want a gun
>>80321404
Yeah fuck guns.....theyre usually only wielded by people trying to testify againat her as they decide against it and commit suicide. Two shots to the back of the head and shit. Think of how many people would be testifying against her right now if they couldnt get a gun and shoot themself in the back of the head.
>>80321404
>Gun lovers are just going to have to give up assault rifles.
we will die before that happens. we have courage. you do not, nor will you ever.
>>80332720
Is Australia just like new Mexico but just with kangaroos in the southern hemisphere
Considering moving there Q1 2017
>>80322579
Well, ammend the constitution. We'll wait.
>>80323429
What's worse is that literally any mass shooting we hear occur in places were the people were prohibited from having guns. That's the difference from San Bernadino vs Garland.
>>80321404
>>80321404
>Gun lovers are just going to have to give up assault rifles.
>There is no justifiable reason for them to be on the street and accessible at all. Hobby, fetish and tradition are not worth the risk to our society.
>And don't even start the pedantic definition debate. I don't give a goddamn what you call it. Don't even start, that has precluded reform far too long.
>Any weapon capable killing an office party before any can get out, of spraying 100 LGBT folks celebrating pride in a safe place, capable of overpowering a police force and picking off 5 and hitting 11 does not belong in the arms of any citizen. No matter how well adjusted, clean or quiet.
>We are a grown up society, a country capable of changing. Change isn't always comfortable. But, just as the people got on board or got left behind throughout the civil rights movement, women's movement and the marriage equally movement, among so many others, the people are ready. We've had enough.
>Gun reform is a civil rights movement. It is a social movement. Those movements always move forward, even with set backs. Get on board.
The Founding Fathers disagree
>>80325469
If guns are such a danger for me and everyone around me then why has the rifle I own that has been in the family since 1940 never hurt a single other human being in it's entire existence? Hell I can say the same for the other 35 or so rifles, shotguns, and pistols I own.
>>80332089
>>80332976
Anyone?
>>80321404
that '90 per day' obviously includes suicides which are like 5/6 of "gun violence" incidents
the vast majority of actual gun murders (and suicides) are committed using handguns, not assault rifles
>>80323425
By saying it means something other than what it does.
>>80323560
>60% of US gun deaths are suicides
Do you have a government source for that? I've never heard that point before.
>all that leaves is bolt action
Furthermore, most bolt action rifles are more deadly than the intermediary rounds found in most "assault rifles".
5.56 is much safer when used in self defense over .300 Winmag.
>>80325968
got daim is that some integral suppression I spot there?
>>80333865
I feel lonely... :(
Tom Araya from Slayer is pro-gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY5uapAE-lk
>>80327236
Uhh no. Just, wow...no. If that were true every single auto manufacturer would be getting hit with a class action lawsuit for false advertising.
Are you trolling or just a fucking retard?
This again?
>>80321404
As a dick sucking faggot and avid gun owner, fuck you for wanting to take my ability to self defense and safe well being.
Don't use us LGBTs for your gun grabbing politics you fucking asshole. Because of Orlando more gays are buying guns, contrary to what media says.
>>80321404
>safe place
More than 25% of them will get an STD
We need to implement common sense STD control. Ban STDs and make them know they are not welcome and they will go away.
>>80321545
Based Leaf poster
First post: Best post
>nigger democrat shoots people
>give up your guns
>>80321404
Come and take 'em
>>80322235
>could
A gay muslim democrat could also shot up a gay bar in florida... Ohh wait
>>80321404
1. Fuck off. America is for adults who want to be free; not self-righteous virtue-signalling children terrified of shit that has never happened to them.
2. Molon Labe faggot. I can't fucking WAIT for a revolution to finally cleanse the libfuck parasites from the country.
3. Protection from tyranny. I don't give a FUCK how many people are murdered per year: it's the price of freedom faggot. If you don't like it then fuck off.
4. FAR FAR more are killed every year from drunk driving but you're not arguing that we should ban alcohol or cars. Hypocrite.
5. I didn't hear you self-righteous libfucks screaming in horror at all the hateful rhetoric coming from #BLM over the past years which in this latest case was cited by the killer as a prime motive. Fuck you hypocrites.
6. See pic related. Q.E.D.
>>80336523
As someone who doesn't like gays, listen to this guy. Armed fags don't get bashed. If you want to keep minorities and "marginilized" groups from getting buffaloed, you HAVE to keep them armed.
There is only one power in this universe, and that's the power to kill. Our entire civilization is just barely held together by the threat of armed guys being allowed to kill you if you don't follow society's rules.
>>80336523
>>80337856
Feel free to come take it buddy. Any time you want.
>>80321404
>a civil rights movement
>by taking away our rights
Ya, nah, yer a cunt, go fuck yourself, preferably with a gun, preferably loaded, preferably discharging
>>80334884
google .com
/search?q=60%25%20gun%20deaths%20suicide
>>80321404
I think I'll just hide them and shoot the niggers that tell me otherwize; cause all our cops are white ;)
>>80323599
Except that you're wrong.
The problem with gun arguments is in the end all the pro-gun people just get portrayed as idiots unwilling to move on to a new better future, while the anti-gun people look at worst like bleeding hearts who want whats best but just don't understand. This is why I believe the sad future is that eventually gun rights will greatly vanish in the United States over time. As Thomas Jefferson predicted there will be "consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence." I guess he just didn't predict both would happen at the same time, but we will get to enjoy a new age of even greater corruption upon this consolidation of power.
>>80327415
I'm halfway through the thread, but that "NO STEP" on the wing reminds me of the Gadsden Snek image macros, I wonder if there is shoop potential there
Come in take them, see how well you can do seizing firearms in my neighborhood in Texas. There are former soldier, gun nuts, hardcore conservatives and shit all through my state. Sure kill us, and then we can see how the media shows you killed sovereign citizens defending their rights. I will kill all of you if try to take anyone's rights. You Liberals will fucking die. Not just in Texas, but all red states. You will fucking die and there will be war.
>>80340305
Considering that our own government plays a key role in the arms industry and the fact that we have millions of guns out there already, making them go away is not going to happen that easily.
I don't give a fuck what Australia did to confiscate and disenfranchise guns either.
That shit ain't working here.
>>80321404
I completely agree with you.
>>80321404
>Any weapon capable killing an office party before any can get out, of spraying 100 LGBT folks celebrating pride in a safe place, capable of overpowering a police force
Any weapon capable killing a home invasion crew before any harm can be done to the residents, of spraying 100 rioting thugs and arsonists, capable of overpowering a terrorist force roaming the streets like Sharia Cultural Police and Boko Haram, DOES belong in the hands of all REAL citizens.
Yes, the threat comes from completely conspicuous AR-15s slung around a man's shoulder; and not at all from the easily concealed glocks that the niggers can't stop holding up while they pose with hundies.
>>80321404
what the fuck is an assault weapon
>>80327236
rofl you are retarded
>>80333326
>>80333480
R A R E
A A
R R
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>>80321404
"Assault weapons" ban was already tried at the federal level for 10 years and it had no impact. It's unlikely to be reinstated. if you want them banned again, do it in your own state.
>>80321404
Socalists are just going to have to give up on gun control.
There is no justifiable reason for them to be in our country at all. Hobby, fetish and tradition are not worth the risk to our society.
And don't even start the pedantic definition debate. I don't give a goddamn what you call it. Don't even start, that has precluded reform far too long.
Any ideology capable killing a million of people before any can get out, of kidnapping and murdering thousands of LGBT folks, capable of overpowering a rational police force and picking off political opponents does not belong in the mind of any citizen. No matter how well adjusted, clean or quiet.
We are a grown up society, a country capable of changing. Change isn't always comfortable. But, just as the people got on board or got left behind throughout the civil rights movement, women's movement and the marriage equally movement, among so many others, the people are ready to reject socalism. We've had enough.
Conservative social reform is a civil rights movement. It is a social movement. Those movements always move forward, even with set backs. Get on board.
>300 million guns in the US
>about a third of people own at least one firearm
>That's just over 100 million gun owners, most with multiple weapons
>I doubt they will be willing to part with their guns
>About 2.2 Million personnel of the US Armed Forces, including reserves
>1.1 million law enforcement officers
>3.3 million vs 100 million
It would not end well for the government. Despite all their training, tactics, tanks and what-have-you, there are simply way too many gun owners to deal with, and no law will disarm them. They might as well give up.
>>80321404
Worst idea ever.
>>80324303
You have to go back , either to Mexico or what ever shit hole you came from and leave America alone .. fcking termites all of you's
>>80326362
>>80321404
> Wants most popular rifle in america banned, despite few uses in crimes.
> Dosen't give a single fuck about black shooting each other with handguns which is where she pulled the 90 people a day stat from.
Why the fuck would anyone trust someone as divisive as Hillary?
>>80321826
Let an englishman teach you about the english language. There is a comma, the entire 2nd amendment is basically a statement, then a rule.
A well regulated militia being necessary to he security of a free state.
This is a statement, its making the point that a well armed militia is necessary for freedom, thus the right of the people to bare arms should never be infringed.
The implication is that atempts to subvert this rule are the actions of a non free state., thus the sanctity of the 2nd amendment is absolute.
I really dont think the language can be interpreted any other way, its clear to any native english speaker in its absolute intentions.
STATEMENT - Rule
>>80344358
Most military personnel own firearms and would be unwilling to part with them. Most would refuse to fight or defect.
